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 PGL7
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Msg: 965
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What economist???YOU???


Unbelievable.


A number of analysts, including those at the Tax Policy Center, have found that Romney's tax plan would have to raise taxes on the middle class in order to be mathematically possible. But Rosen may not be in that category.


The point was that OblameO quoted that economist, Harry Rosen and Rosen rebuked the President for misrepresented his (Rosen's) words.
You people need to read the posts before you comment on them.


It's been a very bad week for OblameO

First he tanked it at the debate
Then his attempts to blame everyone else for his bad performance, fell flat.
Then his campaign to call Romney a liar went nowhere. (btw Romney will be the most straight laced President ever elected)
Next the investigation into the terrorist attack in Benghazi is blowing up in his face at this moment
Also Big Bird and Sesame Street are now telling him to stop using the character in ads.
Lastly, the polls have turned dramatically against the likely hood of his re-election.

They screwed up big time in Benghazi and that is going to be huge till election day.

Utter Failure!

"Who is John Galt?"
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 10/10/2012 5:40:23 AM
ye gods i actually agree with imported labor (spelt the yank way without the u)

''And you should learn how to post correctly and make sure to distinguish between your words and those that belong to another author. When you are cutting and pasting somebody else's writing within your post without providing a link, and not mentioning the author of the work, is the equivalent of plagiarizing.''

there are LOTS of posters do that. one of the funniest was when a prolific posting windbagger from the north was
taken to task for jumbling up another persons words and claiming them as his own.

he was exposed but consigned the person who brought this to our attention and his expose to the memory hole.

You say : "'Ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times (maybe less, maybe more)
If you must write prose/poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loan"
'Cause there's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall


You say : "'Ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then produce the text
From whence was ripped
(Some dizzy whore, 1804)
http://www.lyricstime.com/the-smiths-cemetery-gates-lyrics.html

happy plaigiarizing folks
 PGL7
Joined: 8/7/2010
Msg: 967
Obama is an utter failure.
Posted: 10/10/2012 9:30:49 AM
HaHa
And yet no comment on the Liar In Chief....

Today House Oversight Committee Hearing on the Sept 11th Libya attack begins to piece together the State department failures in Libya which led to the death of 4 Americans. More importantly it will shed light on the failed OblameO policy of appeasement.
This event will take down Presidency of OblameO and the wishful Presidency of Hillary as OblameO will eventually leave here hanging in the wind to take the blame.

The question is "what did the President know and when did he know it".

Wanna bet we don't see the War room pics of OblameO and Clinton at the attack party, viewing the live stream of the attack like we did from the Bin Ladin attack.

Way to "Spike the Football" guys.

The polls are not pretty, OblameO is going down in flames and the apologists in here are scrambling to make sense of this utter failure of a President.

Even Big Bird deserted OblameO

"The Economy, Stupid!"
"Who is John Galt?"
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 10/10/2012 11:55:17 AM

and the wishful Presidency of Hillary as OblameO will eventually leave here hanging in the wind to take the blame.


That hadn't occurred to me, but you raise a good question. Rep. Issa and others are now going after our esteemed Secretary of State, and she certainly won't want to get hung with the blame for this debacle just to help the Liar-in-Chief's chances of re-election. She's looking ahead to a second Clinton presidency, and I doubt she cares much for Obama personally. It will be interesting to see if new contradictions in the administration's official cover story start showing up as each one tries to blame the other.
 PGL7
Joined: 8/7/2010
Msg: 969
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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:13:54 PM
Actually Hillary was one of the first to link the Militant Islamic Jihadist attack to terrorism not a spontaneous reaction to that video(laughable). Therefore she was in direct contrast early with the OblameO plan for appeasement.

Now today she is called on the carpet and in a closed door meeting with his royal highness the Liar in Chief OblameO.
Hopefully they can get their stories lined up in a hurry as I am sure OblameO has a fund raiser to get to.

There were many warning signs leading up to the attack and the State dpt. ignored them and now the first US Ambassador since 1979 is murdered.
Remember what happened to that President in office in 1979.

Perhaps there is a silver lining.

"Who is John Galt?"
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 970
Obama is an utter failure.
Posted: 10/10/2012 12:30:43 PM

The polls are not pretty, OblameO is going down in flames and the apologists in here are scrambling to make sense of this utter failure of a President.

Actually it more like the right wing is still grasping at any straw they can, while as per usual avoiding history which completely contradicts their fake and at best laughable outrage.




"Who is John Galt?"

He was a character in a science fiction book used by people who can not look past the truth and like to live in pretend fantasy worlds, that was written ironically by a lazy American who mooched off social programs.
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 10/10/2012 12:34:35 PM
Et tu, Hillary?*






*these words were lifted from someone else and were in no way thought up by myself (the fact my latin
is worse than pony contributes to this)
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 972
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Posted: 10/10/2012 7:21:33 PM
Interesting....luv the pile on! Cept for a few facts...did you know that dildo committee voted to cut the budget for the embassies security? They cut 114 million in 2011, and a little over 300 million in 2012!

Not they want to hold hearings on Obama killing these folks...guess they must know some people who would go there for free, to stand against terrorists for bupkis!

This is the same issues over and over again....let's all be good republicants...

First, we(republicant governors) ask the president to change parts of the welfare law to give us latitude, then the party can blame him for changing the work part of the new welfare law....so much for bi-partisanship!

Then we reduce spending on those pesky embassy's soaking us dry...then we blame Obama for cutting the security by the budgetary way we did in congress, in a republicant dominated committee, and when it's attacked the same group hold hearings to show the presidents incompetence....snicker snicker...

Republicans are great at engineering things like this, they have a long history...alll the way back to Watergate...it's their strong suite!
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 973
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Posted: 10/10/2012 7:38:34 PM
A few million here, a few million there,,,
Solyndra who?
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 974
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Posted: 10/10/2012 8:16:38 PM
"Solyndra who?"

How bout them guys at the FED and Congress, who spent 750 BILLION on the banks?
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:05:12 AM

the traitorous repugnicants who cut the State Department's budget


There are a lot of Dimocrats it would be redundant to call "traitorous." For a month now, this President and his toadies have been trying to cover up a debacle--allowing another murderous 9/11 attack on U.S. territory by Muslim jihadists--by lying through their teeth. Barack Hussein Obama's three-and-one-half years of shameless bowing and apologizing to the Islamists he sympathizes with has encouraged, among other foreign policy calamities, the murder of our ambassador and three other Americans. He is desperately trying to cover this up until the election, for fear more and more voters will see him for the feckless kowtower he is.

Charlene Lamb, the State Dept. functionary in charge of security for diplomatic missions, admitted in the hearing that the lack of security was not caused by any budget cuts. The claim that this happened for want of a few million bucks for embassy security is desperate and laughable. I doubt the Appeaser-in-Chief will be fool enough to make it in the foreign policy debate--he'll leave the snow job to Carney, Rice, and the rest of his retinue of liars.

As another part of his program of placating America's enemies, Mr. Obama released Omar Khadr from Guantanamo to Canada. He is in a civilian prison there and will almost certainly be released in a few months. Khadr is an Al Qaeda jihadist who at the age of 15 murdered a U.S. medic, Sgt. Christopher Speer, in a firefight in Afghanistan. Ever since his capture, leftists have waged a campaign to paint him out as no more than a child, and victim of American brutality. Khadr's case is one of many examples of the unholy alliance of jihadists and leftists against America. And this President, un-American at his core, is part of it.
 matchlight
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Posted: 10/11/2012 1:57:34 PM
You've just called me a Nazi and a hypocrite who has no respect for justice--but who would expect a lawyer to be anything better than that? Even so, I think you'll find that trying to make personal insults is usually a poor substitute for facts and reasoning.


Lock him up for eternity without a fair trial


I can see how much you know about the law of war and constitutional rights. Can you tell me what entitles an alien combatant captured abroad after murdering a U.S. soldier to a trial of any kind? Please cite specific legal authority, so I can educate myself about this. Somewhere I picked up the strange notion that the U.S. Constitution's guarantees of a trial apply don't apply to aliens outside the U.S.

Khadr's father, a senior Al Qaeda operative who was closely associated with Osama Bin Laden, moved the family from Canada to Pakistan and Afghanistan specifically to wage jihad. Omar Khadr was not in uniform and not fighting for his homeland. Those facts take him outside the protections of the laws of war. They make him an unlawful combatant. He was not a legitimate soldier, but a murderer and a war criminal.

Here is a list of the facts the prosecution and Khadr's lawyers agreed to. Decide for yourself if they support the America-hating leftists' portrayal of a poor child soldier the mean, jackbooted American savages brutalized for the crime of being a Muslim who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2010/10/26/19/stip2.source.prod_affiliate.56.pdf

Khadr chose to engage in the firefight with U.S. troops. They had earlier halted it to let any women and children who were there escape. When he threw the grenade that killed Sgt. Speer, the firefight had already ended. He was then shot, and, ironically, it was Speer's fellow medics who saved his life. They shouldn't have bothered, nor should the U.S. military surgeons, or the ophthalmologist who was flown in to save his wounded eye. The U.S. troops would not have violated the law of war by letting him die. After all, war criminals can legitimately be executed on the spot, after very little hearing. Khadr got a bigger break than he deserved just by being kept alive.

You make excuses for an Al Qaeda jihadist and war criminal who murdered a soldier serving the country you live in. This country gave him far better treatment than he had coming, and yet you denounce it for not treating him even better. It makes no difference if the motives of the people who spread jihadist propaganda against the U.S. are good or bad--the effect is the same.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 977
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Posted: 10/11/2012 8:22:19 PM

Can you tell me what entitles an alien combatant captured abroad after murdering a U.S. soldier to a trial of any kind? Please cite specific legal authority,


This ranks as one of the most inane statement I've seen you make; (just when I thought that you reached your nadir; your brainwashed mind always comes up with something more bizarre); and from which you build your ignominious 'straw man' argument.

How's this! lets suppose I was a simple American living in my small town somewhere in the USA, and all of a sudden some superior-ly trained army force (of a different religion & culture) came barreling through looking for neighbors, relatives and countrymen; In the process they destroy (intentionally or by accident) my home and property and nearly kill me! They claim they are looking for outlaws or terrorists but paint us all by the same brush strokes.

What do you think anybody with a half-working brain is gonna do???. Yep, were all gonna pick up fire-arms and defend ourselves. No, we are not members of a formal military but an armed militia; Like the minute men; we are gonna be fighting for everything we know. So guess what; to these "foreign" invaders; we will be tarred as "ENEMY COMBATANTS". The minute-men were labeled as such by the red-coats!

And yes! as somebody trying to defend my home & family I would certainly try to "murder" (your words) as many of these invaders as possible under ANY circumstance possible; regardless of the price to be paid. As they say in the state of NH "live free or die"
 matchlight
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Posted: 10/11/2012 11:37:06 PM
This ranks as one of the most inane statement I've seen you make


Coming from you, that is quite a compliment. Thank you.


How's this! lets suppose I was a simple American living in my small town somewhere in the USA, and all of a sudden some superior-ly trained army force (of a different religion & culture) came barreling through looking for neighbors, relatives and countrymen; In the process they destroy (intentionally or by accident) my home and property and nearly kill me! They claim they are looking for outlaws or terrorists but paint us all by the same brush strokes.


Seldom in the history of legal and moral thought have we been treated to thought and analysis of such depth.


just when I thought that you reached your nadir


Isn't he the guy that killed off the Corvair?


your ignominious 'straw man' argument


I was always so stoned that's about all I remember from Geology class. Sedimentary, ignominious, metamorphose . . . But what's that got to do with straw, man?


What do you think anybody with a half-working brain is gonna do???


Why, I can't imagine. Do tell!


And yes! as somebody trying to defend my home & family I would certainly try to "murder" (your words) as many of these invaders as possible under ANY circumstance possible; regardless of the price to be paid.


Gee, how profound and inspiring. Now all you have to do is change the laws of war, formulated over the past couple millenia or so, to reflect your brilliant insights. Until such time, I say take them to the gallows, let them make peace with their perverted maker--and then stretch their greasy necks.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 10/12/2012 3:44:31 AM
yule

you wrote

''How's this! lets suppose I was a simple American living in my small town somewhere in the USA, and all of a sudden some superior-ly trained army force (of a different religion & culture) came barreling through looking for neighbors, relatives and countrymen; In the process they destroy (intentionally or by accident) my home and property and nearly kill me! They claim they are looking for outlaws or terrorists but paint us all by the same brush strokes.
What do you think anybody with a half-working brain is gonna do???. Yep, were all gonna pick up fire-arms and defend ourselves. No, we are not members of a formal military but an armed militia; Like the minute men; we are gonna be fighting for everything we know. So guess what; to these "foreign" invaders; we will be tarred as "ENEMY COMBATANTS". The minute-men were labeled as such by the red-coats!
And yes! as somebody trying to defend my home & family I would certainly try to "murder" (your words) as many of these invaders as possible under ANY circumstance possible; regardless of the price to be paid. As they say in the state of NH "live free or die"

so what part of omar khadr's home town of toronto were the american troops rampaging through that made him pick up a weapon and engage in a firefight and ultimately kill an american soldier?

i KNOW that what you are saying is correct and yep loads of folk would do the same to protect their homes and family from foreign troops.
but khadr was born in toronto canada and not in afghanistan where he murdered an american soldier whilst being a jihadist/terrorist. now if he was to use what you wrote above as a defence then he should renounce his canadian citizenship and relocate to afghanistan where he can kill more troops.
i also think he has been treated remarkably well considering what he done.
 VGLGuySksFun
Joined: 10/12/2011
Msg: 980
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Posted: 10/12/2012 6:49:16 AM
Who in or from Iraq attacked the U.S. providing us a reason to invade Iraq? Answer: no one

Did Iraq have WMDs? Answer: no

What was the cost of the war in Iraq? Answer: $ 1.4 trillion (about 10% of the total national debt)

How many U.S. casualties occured in Iraq? Answer: 4300 dead; 30,000+ wounded
Of course the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi casualties don't matter because they can't vote in the U.S... and they're Muslims anyway.

How many U.S. casualties were the children of the top 2% of U.S. wealthiest households? Speculation: NONE

All brought to you, the good people of the United States, by Republican Christian Fascists... "we must be doing the right thing, we're Christians"
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 981
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Posted: 10/12/2012 8:20:35 AM
So after reading the last page...we are back at the beginning!!

No matter which side of the conservative/liberal debate you come down on. Even the debate last night, went the same way...religion is evil! Because the religious are the MOST intolerant people on the face of the earth! The old "my god is better than your god" always rules the day.

From the matchsters rantings about jihadists, to Ryan's belief he and his group of fanatics, have a right to rule over someone elses body and take away their rights to the same! From Canadian arabs shooting US soldiers, to that guy from Fort Hood...to the Israeli's who weren't in Palestine for a 1,000 years, to now having a jewish state. The Pope being infalable, to the anti-gay sentiment in some protestant groups. To the Irish Catholics in the south, to the Protestant people in Belfast which has been going on for several hundred years...

It's all the same shit...my god is better than your god, and I'm gonna show you just how much better! How much more right we are than you are...whether it's jihadists and fatwas or christian crusades...spanish monks schooling native tribes all over the world, in the 15th and 16th century...

The problem is always the same the zealots don't listen to god, nor the teaching of anybody including jesus or mohammed...they are just interested in expanding their sphere of power. They know better...and you better listen or they'll kill ya...or send some poor misguided miscreant to do it, so he can have 72 virgins, or a better seat in heaven on a nicer cloud!

For the majority of us...we simply want a good life, to live as we please. Hell some jews and some muslims eat chinese food(pork)...doesn't make them bad jews or muslims...just makes them normal...some christians(and boy do I mean SOME) have affairs and fornicate...doesn't make them great people if they cheat...doesn't damn them to the eternal fires of some pit if they cheat OR fornicate....(even you guys believe in forgiveness, or at least your supposed to)...

So what's the answer? Elect Romney/ryan so they can tell women they can't have an abortion? Or parse words about legitamite rape? How does that go again...oh yeah the woman can't get pregnant cause her body can shut that out in cases of rape...ala Akin! Don't forget ryan sponsored bills with Akin. Or the deeply religious bush/cheney team, who had a vision from god, about WMD's in Iraq....and then Darth Cheney had another vision from god, and we wound up with Abu Grab....or whatever the fuk it was called....

It's all bullshit...so some guys can make a living making you feel good about the things you do or did...
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 10/12/2012 9:04:44 AM
imported

i personally do not agree with this fawning over the state of israel that the west does. i think support
for israel should be withdrawn until they lose the belligerance that engulfs that state.

whilst in the line of my work i have grafted in many a jewish persons house or business and i found
them in the main to be alright folk. the ones who were in my opinion barking were usually the ones who
were zionists.

if we had decent governments then anyone who went and fought for a foreign nation they would lose
the right to get back into the uk. if the cause they are fighting for means so much to them then they should
piss off and live wherever they are getting their knickers in a twist about.

after watching the documentery 'defamation' i can only come to the conclusion that the adl geezer is a
nutjob gangster who sees anti semitism everywhere and if he cannot find it he will make it up. and the end result
is always the same. money
its tragic in as much as more and more folk are getting sick to the back teeth of hearing about anti semitism,
brave little israel and how you are looked upon as some kind of monster if you object to anything the zionists do.

so in answer to your question i think any american or european jew who has went and raised arms and fought
for israel should stay over there and never come back to europe or the americas


if you have never seen defamation here is a trailer for it (made by a jewish geezer might i add)

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v198382839c8bfejy?h1=True+Stories%3A+Defamation+%28What+is+anti-Semitism+today%3F%29
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/12/2012 9:26:30 AM

It's all the same shit...my god is better than your god, and I'm gonna show you just how much better! How much more right we are than you are...whether it's jihadists and fatwas or christian crusades...spanish monks schooling native tribes all over the world, in the 15th and 16th century...

The problem is always the same the zealots don't listen to god, nor the teaching of anybody including jesus or mohammed...they are just interested in expanding their sphere of power. They know better...and you better listen or they'll kill ya...or send some poor misguided miscreant to do it, so he can have 72 virgins, or a better seat in heaven on a nicer cloud!


Haven't you noticed the entire point of everything you wrote... It isn't the religion that is the problem but religion becoming Government. State sponsored. It isn't the people it is the people that take over power. That is the entire point of our separation of church and state and the freedom of religion. It is the mix. You can't remove religion from the people. To do that you have to kill them. You can however, remove it from being Government. There is a difference.

Islam is not Islamisim. Christianity is not Roman Catholic rule.

Yes, it is complicated. You will have Islamic, Catholic, Christian and Wiccan people that work in positions of authority and power. That is also why we don't have one house of Government as all authoritive.

I think it's been made clear to Obama that his power is not as great as he had hoped. A little humility never hurt anyone. If he wins I hope he remembers that...
 matchlight
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Posted: 10/12/2012 12:55:58 PM
so what part of omar khadr's home town of toronto were the american troops rampaging through that made him pick up a weapon and engage in a firefight and ultimately kill an american soldier?


Exactly. When Khadr killed Sgt. Speer with a grenade, he murdered a U.S. serviceman. That is a war crime.

The laws of war are codified in the Geneva Conventions. Fighting out of proper uniform is normally outside the rules--i.e. a war crime. The obvious reason is that it's a way for spies and saboteurs to operate behind enemy lines. But if they're caught, either posing as civilians or as the other side's own soldiers, they don't get treated as prisoners of war. They may only have the right to explain themselves to the nearest officer that can be found, and if their story doesn't convince him, they get executed right there. Traditionally war criminals were hanged if it was practical, the idea being that they didn't deserve the dignity of dying from a bullet like a regular soldier.

The Geneva Convention that applies to land warfare provides for civilian militiamen who have to take up arms all of a sudden to defend their country against invasion, where there is no time to make uniforms. They can substitute a fixed insignia that is identifiable from a distance--say a shoulder patch. Omar Khadr was not wearing anything like that, and he wasn't in Canada. He willingly put himself on a battlefield to fight U.S. soldiers, and he murdered one of them.

But freeing Muslim jihadists who murdered the men he commands is nothing new to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Starting in 2003, the Al Quds Brigade, the branch of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard in charge of covert operations, set up an elaborate terrorist network dedicated to killing American troops in Iraq. One of many parts of this network was a large Iraqi jihadist group called the "League of the Righteous," led by Laith al-Khazali and his brother Qais.

In late 2006, the U.S. hurt the Iranian network in Iraq by capturing several senior Al Quds operatives posing as diplomats, together with a lot of information about their operations. This alarmed the regime in Tehran, which decided to discourage any more of it by teaching the crusaders a lesson. So Al Quds officers planned a retaliation using Hizballah jihadists from Lebanon and Iraqis from the League of the Righteous.

One day in January, 2007, a group of armed men in U.S. uniforms, many of them speaking English, drove up to a large compound in Karbala, Iraq. They casually walked into a building where U.S. soldiers were holding routine meetings with local Iraqi officials and began to shoot and throw grenades. They killed one American there, seized four others, and sped out of the city in several SUV's. They turned off onto a dirt road in the middle of nowhere, pulled over, and ordered the men out. And there, while the four U.S. soldiers knelt in the dirt, handcuffed together in pairs, they murdered them.

The jihadists left one of the SUV's at the murder scene, and U.S. agents got fingerprints from it that led to a raid on a jihadist torture room in a Baghdad slum. Information on computers found there led to a man named al-Dulaimi. U.S. forces tracked him down and killed him. But thanks to Barack Hussein Obama, both the Khazalis and the Iranian operatives who planned and directed this war crime against U.S. soldiers were set free.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 10/12/2012 1:47:09 PM

...It isn't the religion that is the problem but religion becoming Government...

So based on that I will assume you will voting for Obama or not voting at all, seeing as Romney has a clear religious agenda.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 986
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Posted: 10/12/2012 2:14:19 PM
"Yes, it is complicated"

Way to minimalize the point! We have the matchster on here in his never ending crusade to blame Obama for whatever the muslims do..We have another segment ready to overturn Roe V Wade, so they can force their beliefs on women. Not to mention all the other freakin murderers I mentioned!

How many more millions have to die over "my god is better than your god", before someone takes their head out of their azz, and says ENOUGH?

"That is also why we don't have one house of Government as all authoritive"

Really? REALLY? Your gonna pull that shit out and see if it plays?

That's why the republicans are working like hell to get control of the Senate, they already have control of the house...now let's toss in the presidency, and the fact that the next president will appoint AT LEAST one supreme court judge if not 2...then who will make the decision for those of us, not so enamoured of republican beliefs? The fkin tooth fairy?

"Oh excuse me, I know you 47% don't agree with us...plus probably another 10% who were duped by romeny/ryan lies....but fuk you now...we got control and you can shove your ideas of freedom where the sun don't shine...oh and prayers are at 9 and 3...don't be late!"

"Obama that his power is not as great"

Exactly which power trip is that? The ACA? That was the same plan the republicans liked before the wacko's took over the party! The "Stimulus plan"? Gee didn't shrub pass a $700 billion stimulus with Ryan's help that did LESS than Obama's did? There were ZERO jobs coming out of that....but I guess it doesn't count since it came from 2000-2008-the lost years....when no one on the republican side remembers who was in charge...or should we call those the "torture years" where we have a president and VP afraid to travel outside the country for fear of arrest.

"A little humilty never hurt anyone"

Tell that to Romney who never met an issue he couldn't be on both sides of, as long as his campaign can walk back his lies...hours after he says them...so it doesn't hit the main new cycle. Or the tax returns he won't release that has been fine for every president since his father campigned for the office. Or the 47% crack, that at first there was no apology for in fact, he doubled down for the first 10 days...only once his campaign was off the cliff, and he thought he had a shot...did he apologize...even then you could see that glint in his eyes, as he thought ..."suckers!"
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 987
Obama is an utter failure.
Posted: 10/12/2012 2:37:06 PM

Or the 47% crack


Let's not forget that the red states predominately are welfare states (moreso, than blue states)...so, the Mittster was talking about his own voting base.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 988
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Obama is an utter failure.
Posted: 10/12/2012 3:54:26 PM

So based on that I will assume you will voting for Obama or not voting at all, seeing as Romney has a clear religious agenda.


As opposed to Joe's?
http://blogs.christianpost.com/cp-events/transcript-biden-and-ryan-on-abortion-and-closing-statements-12467/

Joe Biden: My religion defines who I am, and I’ve been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And has particularly informed my social doctrine. The Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who — who can’t take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to — with regard to abortion, I accept my church’s position on abortion as a — what we call a de fide doctrine. Life begins at conception in the church’s judgment. I accept it in my personal life.



Your argument is invalid.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 989
Obama is an utter failure.
Posted: 10/12/2012 6:24:51 PM
Religion is part of our politics because the people in authority claim religion. We do not have religios rule. That doesn't prevent anyone from deriving moral thinking from inside or outside of religion.

Did you not read what he wrote, do you understand that it is possible for a person to act when it is not in their individual best interest?




What you failed to grasp was that in Biden's "not imposing view" he in fact imposes his position on the whole country by having the decisions made at the federal level. So, in effect it is more of a religious edict then Romeny.

WTF? Is this inverse world?




You tell me which argument is really invalid and which one is hypocritical.

Both, as your response was completely hypocritical for the reason that I posted, you intentional left out the part of the quote that made your argument invalid.




If roe v wade is overturned and it is sent back to the states it wouldn't be long before someone had it back at the court for a real trial and maybe a better justification for why it should be legal. Right now its' pretty weak which is why everyone is so scared of it.

It would also be a massive unnecessary experience to the tax payers considering all the work that would have to go into having the whole thing decided.

I am sure I am not the only here that finds it ironic that you want to waste billions of dollars.

Your idea makes as much sense as moving all the deer crossing signs to more convenient locations.
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