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 cotter
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Message 436 ...
there are some things that government must do to keep their economy stable until we can get another source of energy.
Really? Some of the states are trying to get another source of energy ... renewable energy ... but their governors and representatives won't allow it.

... oil and gas industry's $747 million in political expenditures over 10 years.

Ohio's top recipients of oil and gas industry campaign contributions
2001-2010

John Kasich, governor, R, $213,519
Republican Senate Campaign Committee, $114,750
Ohio House Republican Org. Committee, $95,500
Ted Stickland, governor, D, $87,450
Jon Husted, secretary of state, R, $84,750
Bill Batchelder, House, R, $71,195
Tom Niehaus, Senate, R, $64,713
Bill Harris, Senate, R, $63,095
Bob Taft, Governor, R, $50,225
Jim Carmichael, House, R, $46,791
Jay Hottinger, House, R, $43,370
Cliff Hite, Senate, R, $42,760
Jim Petro, attorney general, R, $37,375
Mary Taylor, lieutenant governor, R, $33,185
Greg Hartmann, Hamilton County commissioner, R, $32,978
Mike DeWine, attorney general, R, $32,795
Tim Schaffer, Senate, R, $32,450
John Carey, House, R, $32,350
Ron Amstutz, House, R, $30,100
Andy Thompson, House, R, $29,500


Just an FYI ... doesn't matter to me which party is taking the money ... they're all crooks. They don't need to be taking money from the people who are ruining our air and water and ground.
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 2/26/2015 3:13:32 PM

there are some things that government must do to keep their economy stable until we can get another source of energy.


...and building a dedicated pipeline should be top priority, but some on here prefer the "Fireball Express" rolling pipelines on rails, hauled by those solar powered miracle "ELECTRIC" LOCOMOTIVES( that burn millions of gallons of Diesel fuel) railroading this crude oil from the Dakotas, right through my neighborhood, on its way to any refinery it can get to by rail.


Bakken crude oil rolls over Ohio rails

The Columbus Dispatch • Thursday January 29, 2015 11:12 AM

Millions of gallons of some of the most volatile crude oil in North America are being transported on rail lines through Ohio each week, according to reports that the state had kept secret until this week.

The railroad-company reports show that 45 million to 137 million gallons of Bakken crude oil come through Ohio each week from North Dakota oil fields on the way to East Coast refineries.

Two million to 25 million gallons a week come through Franklin County alone.

Bakken crude oil is desirable to oil and gas companies because it requires less refining than other shale oil to be turned into diesel fuel and gasoline. It also is highly flammable.

Prompted by a 2013 train derailment and explosion that killed 47 people in Quebec and an explosion in Lynchburg, Va., last April, federal regulators began requiring railroads in May to report the average weekly number of trains carrying at least 1 million gallons of Bakken crude.


No Bakken shipments have exploded or caught fire in Ohio, Andrews said.

Transport of crude oil via rail has surged in recent years amid the boom in the Bakken shale formation in North Dakota.


With nearly 5,300 miles of track, Ohio has one of the densest concentrations of rail in the nation and is a crossroads between the Bakken shale formation and East Coast refineries.

Most of the Bakken crude traveling through Ohio is being transported on CSX rail lines. The CSX report shows that 30 million to 105 million gallons of Bakken crude are hauled through Ohio each week. Norfolk Southern moves 13 million to 28 million gallons of Bakken crude.


In Cuyahoga County, 29 million to 45 million gallons of Bakken crude travel along rail lines each week.


 cotter
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Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 2/26/2015 5:36:12 PM
Keystone is dead ...

Our president used his power of VETO and the teabaggers are not going to get enough backing to override the VETO.

It's done.

Now go be a good boy and ... sit at the RR tracks and ... play with yourself.

(Just an FYI: I'm good friends with the Clinton Township police and they said they do not tolerate that kind of behavior ... soooo play with yourself at your own risk if you're gonna be in the West Campus area RR crossings.)
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 2/26/2015 7:29:52 PM

Sen. Manchin: Keystone Pipeline ‘Will Be Built Sooner Or Later’
February 25, 2015 9:05 AM·

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., slammed the decision by President Obama to veto the bipartisan Keystone Jobs bill Tuesday, saying it “will be built sooner or later.”

Manchin also trashed his own party’s argument that holds the construction will only create a handful of permanent jobs. According to a recent PPD Poll, Americans are broadly in agreement with Sen. Manchin and others who supported the bipartisan bill, as roughly 70 percent of the American people support its construction.

“Thousands of jobs would have been created,” Manchin added. “I’ve heard all the rumblings about how they are not going to be permanent jobs. But you know what? I haven’t done one infrastructure job or been a part of building a bridge in West Virginia where workers had a permanent job after the bridge was built.”

“I just can’t figure it out.”


Democrat Joe Manchin said that he & other Democrats will vote to override the veto. If that fails, they will support attaching the Keystone bill to must-pass spending legislation later this year.

Looks like Obama will have to shut down the gov't over this.


Now go be a good boy and ... sit at the RR tracks and ... play with yourself.


Hahahahaha....Nope...not sitting anywhere near those RR tracks where your Fireball Express crude oil trains run through.

You obviously get a tingly boner when your claimed miracle ELECTRIC locomotives run through town - blowing out Diesel exhaust, pulling a hundred oil tankers....you can sit there & braid your chin hairs waiting for a fiery derail when they rumble by....LMAO
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 2/27/2015 3:41:19 AM

If that fails, they will support attaching the Keystone bill to must-pass spending legislation later this year. 


And we just saw how well that worked for the GOP. ..The teapuppets are about ready to explode after the DHL bullshyte
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 431
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Posted: 2/27/2015 6:12:39 AM
At this point my bet is most people dont understand how much low oil prices are going to hurt the economy.OPEC will wait and then slam us to make up for lost profits.A little regulation in the form of equalization of the price of a barrel could keep things humming and prevent outright dependance on foreign sources.

Ask a guy on the Caterpillar assembly line if he knows where Alberta is.

And if any libs poke fun at this, how is it that Alberta will continue to send billions in transfer payments to the Harper gov which then passes the billions to Quebec and Ontario in the form of equalization payments? If we run provincial deficits do you feel we should borrow just to hand it over to the east for generous social programs?

And how would Trudeau fund his programs with low oil prices?
I dont expect real answers .

@HFX below

Waiting for the huge surge in competitive manufacturing .Energy prices dont bother Germany that much do they?
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 432
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Posted: 2/27/2015 6:19:09 AM

At this point my bet is most people dont understand how much low oil prices are going to hurt the economy.


At this point I do not think you understand how low oil prices can also help an economy.





Ask a guy on the Caterpillar assembly line if he knows where Alberta is.


Then ask him if he knows where Switzerland is, as that is where Cat likes to hide its profits to avoid paying US taxes.
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 433
Look What The Big BOOB Did Now
Posted: 2/27/2015 7:18:31 AM
The Incompetent Golfer has commemorated the day to remembering a young drug user Trayvon Martin but did not attend the funeral of General Harold Greene.

I don't know how much more America can take of this buffoon that the Kardashian Society elected.

George "The Animal" Steel could have done a better job. can't wait for January 2017.

what an idiot!!!!
 Olwhatzhisname
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Here comes the FIREBALL EXPRESS
Posted: 3/5/2015 7:41:36 PM
Here we go again........


Freight Train Carrying Crude Oil Derails, Burns Near Illinois City
GALENA, Ill. — Mar 5, 2015, 9:28 PM ET

A freight train loaded with crude oil derailed in northern Illinois on Thursday, bursting into flames and prompting authorities to evacuate everyone within 1 mile, authorities said.

The train derailed around 1:20 p.m. in a rural area where the Galena River meets the Mississippi, said Jo Daviess County Sheriff's Sgt. Mike Moser. Authorities didn't say exactly how many people were evacuated, but said it wasn't many.

The train had 103 cars loaded with crude oil, along with two buffer cars loaded with sand. A cause hadn't yet been determined. No injuries were reported.

Galena City Administrator Mark Moran told the Dubuque Telegraph Herald newspaper in Iowa that eight tankers had left the track. "Two of those were still upright. The other six were not," she said.

A release from the Jo Daviess County Sheriff's Department confirmed it was oil from the Northern Plains' Bakken region.

The derailment occurred 3 miles south of Galena in a wooded and hilly area that is a major tourist attraction and the home of former President Ulysses S. Grant.

Firefighters could only access the derailment site by a bike path, said Galena Assistant Fire Chief Bob Conley. They attempted to fight a small fire at the scene but were unable to stop the flames.

Firefighters had to pull back for safety reasons and were allowing the fire to burn itself out, Conley said. In addition to Galena firefighters, emergency and hazardous material responders from Iowa and Wisconsin were at the scene.

In a statement, the Federal Railroad Administration said it was sending investigators to the Illinois derailment site and that the agency will conduct a "thorough investigation," to determine the cause.

BNSF spokesman Michael Trevino said railroad employees were on the scene and additional personnel were headed there.

Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner also put state personnel and equipment at the ready for deployment.

The train's destination wasn't immediately known.

 cotter
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Here comes the FIREBALL EXPRESS
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:50:59 PM
^^^ ... So what?


You're still not going to get your pipeline ... the teabaggers can't get their shyt together to override a Veto ...




Psssst ... doesn't that just bug the crap out of you?
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 3/5/2015 9:12:53 PM
^^^^ Did that latest Fireball Express news story give you a real big tingley boner??? Oil burning...tankers leaking.... evacuations??? Im sure you got a super lumpy from it.

Hope it happens on the rail line near West Campus reeeaall soon. It would be better than the Doo Dah Parade for ya' I'm sure.

Only...make sure to stay away from the rails & dont touch them....they are ELECTRIFIED to power those ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVES....LMAO !!!!
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 3/6/2015 5:43:59 AM

Here we go again........


Yep here we go.

It basically comes down to the fact that the DOT-111 is not a safe container for the shipping of flammable crude and I will bet that regulations put forth to reduce speeds and require rail companies to use safer and better built containers will be met with the same, "it's a job killer" derp from the right.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/6/2015 7:13:45 AM
Message 450 ...
I have been posting in these forums for more than 10 years and I can honestly say that I have never .... N E V E R ...

... not E V E R posted anything that wished any harm on any fellow poster.

How can anyone take what is posted in these forums so seriously as to wish actual harm on someone else?
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 3/6/2015 7:20:40 AM
Marshal sez:


and require rail companies to use safer and better built containers will be met with the same, "it's a job killer" derp from the right.


That is one fantastic deduction, I am not sure how you did that, but you must be some type of wizard.

But in reality, its load swallowers of this left wing blogspew like you that keep licking it up, lying, spreading this dumb $hit, (& actually believing it), then trolling out this stupid $hit in order to see yourself in print every 30 minutes, OCD style.

So please keep trolling and showing everyone here that you are just that stupid. We really need it & look forward to that daily reinforcement.


Oil tankers in fiery West Virginia crash were built with new safety features

February 17, 2015 11:28 PM
Michael Henninger/Post-Gazette


The railroad cars involved in the fiery derailment in West Virginia on Monday were a newer model that was supposed to be safer than older tankers blamed in other recent oil train explosions.

The ruptured cars were built to specifications adopted by the railroad industry in 2011 amid criticism that older tankers were dangerously susceptible to puncture and a risk of explosion. Called CPC 1232 cars, the newer tankers were also involved in an April 2014 derailment and explosion in Lynchburg, Va.

The specifications for the newer cars were issued by the Association of American Railroads, whose members include major freight carriers in North America. They came amid concerns that older models called DOT-111s, which still carry a majority of the crude oil shipped by rail, were unsafe.

CSX spokeswoman Melanie Cost confirmed Tuesday that the ruptured tankers that caught fire were CPC 1232 models.


The train, hauling 107 tank cars of crude oil, each car carrying more than 30,000 gallons, was bound from North Dakota to a depot in Yorktown, Va., along the same route used by the train that exploded in Lynchburg last year.

Had the derailment occurred 35 miles earlier, while the train passed through the capital city of Charleston, W.Va., “it could have been catastrophic. It could rank up there with the worst industrial catastrophes in the history of the country,” Mr. McGinley said.

The fire, which continued to burn Tuesday, rekindled calls for tighter regulation of, or an outright moratorium on, rail shipments of volatile crude oil from the Bakken Shale region of North Dakota and Montana.

 HFX_RGB
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:28:35 AM

So please keep trolling and showing everyone here that you are just that stupid. We really need it & look forward to that daily reinforcement.


and you keep overlooking things like "reduced speeds" and better safety regulations and also make sure you do not miss an opportunity to toss out some person insults just incase people forgot you where nothing but a troll hiding behind a faceless profile.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 441
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Posted: 3/6/2015 10:46:06 AM
Here is a prediction.. Keystone will be approved within 12 months of Obama leaving office if not sooner.
It's laughable the arguments here. Just look at how Obama has changed his argument against approval over the past 6 years. As every reason he gave against approval was proven false, by his own government studies, he has changed the narrative. But what else can he do but bow to the special interests of the Democratic left. Even my boss, Warren Buffet now endorses the Keystone Pipeline and with his rail holdings he has as much to lose as anyone.
Keystone will happen once the White House changes inhabitants.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:10:26 AM
Message 455 ...
... Warren Buffet now endorses the Keystone Pipeline ...
That's no surprise.

Warren Buffet has the money and means to move anywhere in the world. If the area he lives in gets polluted by a leak, he just calls all his maids and servants and tells them to pack up and move. No problem.
 Eric_Summit
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Msg: 443
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:25:19 AM
I would be fine if that wealthy leftwinger Warren Buffet moved from Nebraska to my section of New Jersey someday!
Having ridiculously wealthy people around is a GOOD thing since they tend to hire people into cool high-paying jobs.
Hurray for Capitalism. Hurray for pipeline jobs that stabilize energy delivery and provide solid construction jobs.
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 3/6/2015 11:38:01 AM
Marshal sez:

and you keep overlooking things like "reduced speeds" and better safety regulations


Another fantastic deduction, I am not sure how you did that, but you must be some type of wizard to armchair-quarterback a knee-jerk troll response that is epic fail, because it seems YOU are the one who overlooked.

I can only assume you are taking stabs & guessing at this point because you have no idea what you are talking about, because false information was presented by you, resulting from the uncontrollable urge to post something, anything 20 times per day.

So please keep troll-posting and showing everyone here that you are still just as stupid. We really need it & look forward to that daily barrage. Plus it keeps the page fresh.


CSX Oil Train Was Not Speeding in West Virginia Crash, Inquiry Finds
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA FEB. 19, 2015

An oil tanker train was traveling well within the speed limit when it crashed this week in West Virginia, federal officials said Thursday, but three days after the accident, they were still unable to reach parts of the wreckage because fires continued to burn.

The track where the CSX train derailed on Monday, near the village of Mount Carbon, W. Va., has a speed limit of 50 miles per hour. After recovering the train’s digital data recorders, federal investigators determined that the train’s speed was 33 m.p.h., the Department of Transportation said.




and also make sure you do not miss an opportunity to toss out some person insults just incase people forgot you where nothing but a troll hiding behind a faceless profile.


^^^the mommyman has spoken... the originator of person insults....LMAO

Though that said, your obviously rush to judge & insult does really show your true motive, which is not to provide an objective opinion with regards to the subject, but to try to attack people.

So stand up and be proud, as you can count yourself as someone with no tolerance for others. We call that a 'racist" around these parts.

 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 445
Here comes the FIREBALL EXPRESS
Posted: 3/6/2015 11:57:21 AM

Though that said, your obviously rush to judge & insult does really show your true motive, which is not to provide an objective opinion with regards to the subject, but to try to attack people.

So stand up and be proud, as you can count yourself as someone with no tolerance for others. We call that a 'racist" around these parts.


You just broke my irony detector, as you just described yourself to a T.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/7/2015 8:20:54 AM

Hurray for pipeline jobs ...
LMAO ... Becky put on the ole cheerleader skirt and rah rah rah ...

Hooray for all 35 (permanent) pipeline jobs.

Now that'll boost the economy ... for a town of 10? The owner of the corner grocery will become a millionaire and the local church will finally have enough people for the choir!

They'll be thanking god every Sunday for that investment in those choir robes ...

... it's finally going to pay off ...
 overunity
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Posted: 3/7/2015 12:53:38 PM
Oh no! What will happen with the large fleet of "all electric" cross country locomotives with the huge diesel belly tanks on each side?
 Olwhatzhisname
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Posted: 3/8/2015 12:57:12 PM
...Back to the latest episode in the anti-pipeliners' continuing series of regularly scheduled "FIREBALL EXPRESS" crude oil rail disasters:


Train carrying crude oil derails, burns near Gogama, Ont.

CBC News Posted: Mar 07, 2015 8:38 AM ET Last Updated: Mar 08, 2015 3:17 AM ET

Several tanker cars caught fire after a Canadian National Railway train carrying crude oil derailed in northern Ontario, prompting officials to advise nearby residents to stay indoors and avoid consuming water from local sources.

CN said its crew reported the derailment to emergency services at about 2:45 a.m. ET Saturday. Police said the train was 30 to 40 cars in length and 10 cars went off the track four kilometres northwest of Gogama, Ont. There were no reports of injuries.

Some of the rail cars that caught fire entered the Mattagami River System, CN and police said.

The cause of the derailment is still under investigation and the Ministry of Environment has been notified.

Residents of Mattagami First Nation were being advised not to consume water from their community source for the time being. Residents of Gogama and Mattagami First Nation were also being asked to stay inside until further notice due to possible smoke inhalation.


This is the 4th train derailment in northern Ontario this year.


^^^ These fiery rail disasters sure create lots of jobs for emergency personnel, cleanup crews, railroad maintenence workers, & rail tank car manufacturers. Jobs Jobs Jobs!!!

I'm sure its also an economic shot-in-the-arm for these small towns when these armies of personnel swarm in, close roads, declare a state of emergency, & shut down the water supply, forcing the town to essentially close down .
 HFX_RGB
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Posted: 3/8/2015 1:41:40 PM

..Back to the latest episode in the anti-pipeliners' continuing series of regularly scheduled "FIREBALL EXPRESS" crude oil rail disasters:


Well clearly the changes made to the Railway Safety Act in 2001, which allowed rail companies to implement their own standards, or Safety Management Systems along with the 2012 CDRM (Cabinet Directive on Regulatory Management) which puts barriers in place against any federal regulations have not gone far enough.

And sure transportation of crude is gone through the roof, but that only means we clearly need less over-site and fewer of those stupid rules.


Or we could just put leaking pipeline everywhere and deal with the spills in another way.



History of Enbridge Spills

Using data from Enbridge’s own reports, the Polaris Institute calculated that 804 spills occurred on Enbridge pipelines between 1999 and 2010. These spills released approximately 161,475 barrels (25,672.5 m3) of crude oil into the environment

http://line9communities.com/history-of-enbridge-spills/
 cotter
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Posted: 3/9/2015 6:24:24 PM

Or we could just put leaking pipeline everywhere and deal with the spills in another way.
Why of course.

I think the logic in that is so that the original construction jobs will just be continuous jobs ... have to keep fixing all the leaks ... eh? Hmmmm ... no wonder they're so sure it won't be just "35 permanent" jobs ...

The ones who are supporting all this will not live anywhere close to the spills and so their land and air and drinking water won't get spoiled. If it does, they'll just move away and keep investing in the pipelines. The oil industry (for some reason) has all kinds of money to pay such people off.
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