Plentyoffish dating forums are a place to meet singles and get dating advice or share dating experiences etc. Hopefully you will all have fun meeting singles and try out this online dating thing... Remember that we are the largest free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate.
     
Show ALL Forums  > Off Topic  > Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed      Home login  
 AUTHOR
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 464
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline DelayedPage 20 of 21    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21)

Bitumen is diluted with natural gas liquids to make it thinner. Alberta also has "upgraders" that refine raw bitumen into synthetic oil that is easier to pipeline and more profitable.


Diluted bitumen is called ditbit..while it may not be molasses it sure behaves like molasses when combined with water:



When emergency responders rushed to Marshall, Mich. on July 26, 2010, they found that the Kalamazoo River had been blackened by more than one million gallons of oil. They didn't discover until more than a week later that the ruptured pipeline had been carrying diluted bitumen, also known as dilbit, from Canada's tar sands region. Cleaning it up would challenge them in ways they had never imagined. Instead of taking a couple of months, as they originally expected, nearly two years later the job still isn't complete.

Dilbit is harder to remove from waterways than the typical light crude oil—often called conventional crude—that has historically been used as an energy source.

While most conventional oils float on water, much of the dilbit sank beneath the surface. Submerged oil is significantly harder to clean up than floating oil: A large amount of oil remains in the riverbed near Marshall, and the cleanup is expected to continue through the end of 2012.

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20120626/dilbit-primer-diluted-bitumen-conventional-oil-tar-sands-Alberta-Kalamazoo-Keystone-XL-Enbridge
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 465
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/12/2015 4:32:56 AM


The reason it is difficult to pump is because it has a consistency like molasses... try sucking molasses through a straw

Nonsense.

Oh really...? Nonsense you say...? Then why don't they just pump straight bitumen down the pipeline...? Why do they need to add lighter hydrocarbons to make it flow efficiently...?

Bitumen is diluted with natural gas liquids to make it thinner.

Yes they do... usually naptha... and for EXACTLY the reason you called "nonsense" ... because bitumen has a consistency like molasses... Ever tried sucking molasses through a straw... Are there any other nonsense "corrections" you would like to make a fool of yourself with...?
 bryincalgary
Joined: 2/25/2015
Msg: 466
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/12/2015 6:19:36 AM
The raw tar sands can be held in your hands like a lump.

We need nuke powered extraction to be more efficient.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 467
view profile
History
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/18/2015 8:28:43 AM

We need nuke powered extraction to be more efficient.


Hmmmm ... better get BN's permission to do that. He's the one in charge of determining who gets nuclear power or not ... right?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 468
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/19/2015 4:19:31 AM
mungojoe - another question - why is Canada going through such pains to run as little of the pipeline through its own country? they like their water better than the Americans like theirs?
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 469
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/19/2015 3:11:44 PM

mungojoe - another question - why is Canada going through such pains to run as little of the pipeline through its own country? they like their water better than the Americans like theirs?

That's a pretty snarky way to ask a "question"... especially when the information is readily available for anyone who cares to actually find out...

That said... here is the answer... Close to half of Keystone Phase One already runs through Canada... through three different provinces each one of which is about the size of Texas... Phase Four... the controversial one... is intended to carry US oil from Bakken as well as from Canada... This phase starts in Canada but could not carry Bakken oil to US refineries if it DIDN'T run mainly in the US...

As far as Canada goes... we already are working on two... The Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Extension running west... and the Energy East Extension/Conversion running virtually the width of the country... For a grand total of almost three times the length of Keystone Phase Four...

In other words... They are building way more pipeline JUST for Canadian oil... ALL in Canada... than pipeline in the US that will also carry US oil...

And to think... you could have found ALL that on-line... without ever having to resort to asking strangers for an honest answer in a snarky manner...
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 470
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/19/2015 4:42:25 PM

As far as Canada goes... we already are working on two... The Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Extension running west... and the Energy East Extension/Conversion running virtually the width of the country... For a grand total of almost three times the length of Keystone Phase Four...

In other words... They are building way more pipeline JUST for Canadian oil... ALL in Canada... than pipeline in the US that will also carry US oil...


Not true Joe. Natural resources belong to the provinces. And the province of Alberta wants to export oil to the United States.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 471
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/19/2015 4:43:09 PM
What was snarky about it?

You provided a good answer. Thank you. That wasn't what I has heard from environmentalists so I am glad that you cleared it up.

So are you FOR the pipeline through the USA or AGAINST or you don't care?
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 472
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 5/19/2015 7:53:45 PM


As far as Canada goes... we already are working on two... The Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Extension running west... and the Energy East Extension/Conversion running virtually the width of the country... For a grand total of almost three times the length of Keystone Phase Four...

In other words... They are building way more pipeline JUST for Canadian oil... ALL in Canada... than pipeline in the US that will also carry US oil...



Not true Joe.

Really...?!? Not true you say...?!?

So then please... tell us just WHICH portions of the Kinder Morgan Extension and Energy East travel through the United States...? Or... Is it ALL in Canada...? If I am so wrong then please... do tell us...

And then tell us... from which US oil fields will they be transporting crude...? The Permian Basin fields maybe...? The pipelines will carry crude from which countries other than Canada... considering they start in Alberta...? Will they pick it up on that mysterious, invisible US leg...? If I am so wrong then please... do tell us...

And when you have finished that... please... do tell us... How long is the Keystone Phase Four extension...? And... How long is the combined Trans Mountain Extension/Energy East Extension/Conversion...? Which is longer...? and by what approximate proportion...? If I am so wrong then please... do tell us...

Natural resources belong to the provinces. And the province of Alberta wants to export oil to the United States.

Uh-huh... And that has just... what... of intelligence... to do with the two pipelines being wholly within Canada...? or carrying only Canadian crude...? or being much longer than Keystone Phase Four... Please do tell us...

What was snarky about it?

The accusatory character... as in the rather overt implication that Canada is simply detouring their pollution through the US... rather than their own country... because they think they are better than Americans...

So are you FOR the pipeline through the USA or AGAINST or you don't care?

I've already stated my position... quite some time back... and while I usually suggest "reading back"... because it would be tedious to answer the same question a dozen times or more in the same thread... I'll repeat it anyway... Just because you're cute...

I believe it is a good thing for Canada... As much as the "Let them freeze in the dark" types want to pretend otherwise... any major economic boon to any province is a boon to the entire country... That is because in Canada... there is a national system for "wealth redistribution" between the provinces... that moves money from "have" provinces to "have not" provinces... Alberta used to literally survive off that system...

However... I think many Americans would decide to oppose it... IF they knew the full scoop... Something more than the "manipulated, marketed and branded" political hype... So... as usual... I simply provide the bare unvarnished reality... just as I always do...

It's up to you guys to decide which way you want to go... You're the ones who have to live with the consequences of it...
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 473
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 4/23/2017 12:10:33 PM
Nebraska Farmer Politely Schools Fox News Host On Dangers Of Keystone XL Pipeline
“This type of fossil fuel should not be happening.”
By Alexander C. Kaufman


Nebraska farmer Art Tanderup urged the Trump administration on Friday to abandon plans to build the Keystone XL pipeline and focus instead on boosting renewable energy.

In a four-minute interview on Fox News, Tanderup ― who heads a group of about 90 Nebraska landowners trying to block the pipeline ― politely countered each of host Sandra Smith’s talking points as she repeatedly suggested his personal stake was the only real reason he opposed the project.

“Our premium goal would be to leave the tar sands in the ground and move more rapidly to renewable fuels,” said Tanderup, who owns a modest 160-acre farm passed down from his wife Helen’s grandfather.

Four days after his inauguration, President Donald Trump revived the Keystone XL project with an executive action inviting the Calgary-based pipeline builder TransCanada to reapply for permits to build. In 2015, then-President Barack Obama rejected the pipeline after seven years of deliberation, on the grounds that the environmental risks remained too great. If completed, the pipeline would carry tar sands ― a noxious mix of sand, clay, and viscous oil, considered one of the dirtiest and poorest-quality fuels ― from Canada to Texas to be refined for export.

For video and rest of story go to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/art-tanderup-keystone_us_58fa85dbe4b018a9ce5b72f7?lq&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
 ItsImpeachmentTime
Joined: 11/17/2017
Msg: 474
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 11/20/2017 2:27:37 PM
Draining the swamp and filling it up with dirty Oil, just conservative things.


No one wants the Keystone XL pipeline, but Nebraska just approved it anyway
The existing Keystone pipeline spilled over 200,000 gallons of oil last week.
Natasha Geiling
Nov 20, 2017, 12:06 pm

An independent, five-person panel voted to approve an alternative route for TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline on Monday in a major milestone for the controversial project.

But the decision to approve an alternative route for the pipeline, rather than TransCanada’s preferred route, could open up a new set of issues for the Canadian energy company, which may need to reapply for permits with the Bureau of Land Management and Army Corps of Engineers, as well as potentially obtain a new review from the State Department.

The decision comes just days after the existing Keystone pipeline leaked more than 200,000 gallons of crude oil in South Dakota, and a little more than two years after the Obama administration first denied the project’s cross-border permit on economic and climate reasons.


https://thinkprogress.org/nebraska-approves-keystone-xl-6942f7ce316e/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
 YouRAWancar
Joined: 12/29/2017
Msg: 475
Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed
Posted: 1/2/2018 4:57:11 PM
Wow so much winning

I wonder if tRump will take credit for this seeing as he was the one to role back some regulations.



Coal mining deaths double in 2017
By Timothy Cama - 01/02/18 10:39 AM EST

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/367034-coal-mining-deaths-skyrocket-in-2017
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 476
Making America 1920's again
Posted: 1/2/2018 5:10:17 PM
Ah, but so long as we don't "strangle" big biz, someone has to sacrifice.

He'll find some way to blame it on the black man, as usual, and his supporters will be thrilled to hear it and regurgitate it on the internet....as usual. Probably during one of his campaign stops, its only been since last week he had to tell us what an amazing job he's been doing. Typical narcissist.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 477
Making America working again for people who don't just sit around and push a pencil
Posted: 1/3/2018 3:44:04 AM
15 versus 8.

In the 1920s, it was thousands a year


More miners working so while unfortunate, statistically not surprising or extraordinary
or anyone's "fault."

There were more miners working in 2011-2013 when there,were 20 deaths each year.

Meh.
 Tootiefrutie1
Joined: 12/8/2015
Msg: 478
Making America working again for people who don't just sit around and push a pencil
Posted: 1/3/2018 4:00:54 AM
"In the 1920s, it was thousands a year"

Thank goodness for workplace safety regulations.

"More miners working so while unfortunate, statistically not surprising or extraordinary
or anyone's "fault."

The Bureau of Labor Statistics states there were 1,300 coal mining jobs added to the existing 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2017. Statically, there should not have been a doubling of coal miner deaths.

"There were more miners working in 2011-2013 when there,were 20 deaths each year. "

That would approximate the statistical average, as there were more than 80,000 coal miners at that time.
 toocash
Joined: 9/5/2017
Msg: 479
Making America working again for people who don't just sit around and push a pencil
Posted: 1/3/2018 4:59:36 AM
More killed...barely more workinv, and the kunt exclaims..meh! What a disgusting woman. There it is in back and white what she is all about.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 480
Making America working again for people who don't just sit around and push a pencil
Posted: 1/3/2018 6:32:48 AM
That stat was an estimate from June, for the end of 2016, tootie.

Others put the estimate of increase through june of 2017 at 30,000.

The final 2017 numbers are not out yet.


Trying to blame life and death and accidents on Trump?

You people must really think that he is. . .a . . .god.

BUT I agree on safety. Thank you for unions and workplace safety rules and laws.
 YouRAWancar
Joined: 12/29/2017
Msg: 481
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 6:52:15 AM

The Bureau of Labor Statistics states there were 1,300 coal mining jobs added to the existing 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2017. Statically, there should not have been a doubling of coal miner deaths.


Not sure why you are trying to have a conversation with derpy dee, as I am sure you know by know she will just post made up stats and try and pretend that they are real numbers as she is only here to defend her hero and the person who she thinks is some kind of god and that is tRump.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 482
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 8:26:02 AM
Ok, Walt. But no one thinks that Trump is a hero. Just the president. However leftists think that he is all powerful., apparently.


You can keep repeating that incomplete sentence about 1300 jobs if it feeds your general hatred need.
 YouRAWancar
Joined: 12/29/2017
Msg: 483
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 8:33:09 AM

Trying to blame life and death and accidents on Trump?


tRump trying to take credit for no accidents but in derpy dee's world that means he is not responsible for the accidents that do occur.


Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news - it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!
Donald J. tRump, January 2, 2018
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 484
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 9:00:54 AM
Ok, Walt. Happy New Year.

 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 485
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 9:40:42 AM

Ok, Walt.



Ok, Walt.


look at you renting space in someone's head that is no longer on the boards, you should have a chat with your "marry me" vlad, cuz he sez the above poster is someone called "Frank"

*one can only hope that the intel problem of fixing that security "flaw" slows your computer down past that projected
30%... stupid twat
 YouRAWancar
Joined: 12/29/2017
Msg: 486
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 10:10:23 AM

look at you renting space in someone's head that is no longer on the boards, you should have a chat with your "marry me" vlad, cuz he sez the above poster is someone called "Frank"


You really should cut her some slack, the poor woman has no many profiles of her own she has trouble keeping track some times.

It has gotten to the point that she can not even update her Dee profile due to the fact the system would catch her and boot her off.

So hurry Dee as there is still Ti,e to fess up.
 Cynderella
Joined: 3/8/2007
Msg: 487
view profile
History
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/3/2018 9:41:10 PM
I know in BC Canada....
They are standing their ground
against the pipeline.
Trying to protect the environment
and the wildlife.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 488
Making America working again for people who where born rich
Posted: 1/4/2018 3:49:25 PM
And they should, its almost an incident a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century#2017
Show ALL Forums  > Off Topic  > Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Delayed