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 mateo45
Joined: 1/17/2008
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By "generous gifts from the public treasury", are you including the bank bailouts and the lavish tax breaks that primarily benefit the 1% of the population currently controlling most of the wealth? You know, those tax breaks extended from the Bush era, that now make up nearly half the deficit (and were supposed to create "jobs")?!
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 12/9/2011 12:39:39 PM

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.


Which is exactly the reason why the United States is NOT a democracy. However, with the OWS crap and the liberalist demands for equality of existence the most logical step in reaching their goal is by bringing in more democracy.

Every time I hear Presidents say we are spreading 'democracy' it makes me cringe. It has become popular culture to think we are a democracy. Makes it all the easier to say, ‘there is a problem with our democratic processes and 'my vote doesn't count'. How do you fix it? Let's all have a vote!

We are screwed right now because the people we have elected to function in the government are inept, or incompetent, or corrupted. The two sides of liberal vs. conservative are deadlocked and neither side can allow the other to proceed without a fundamental change of the entire system so there is an impasse. The longer the impasse exists the more ferocious the opposition becomes. The more ferocious the opposition the more forceful the change will be.
 mateo45
Joined: 1/17/2008
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Posted: 12/9/2011 12:54:05 PM
No offense, but complaining is the easy part. So what's the answer (besides blaming "OWS crap and the liberalist demands for equality of existence")?!
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 12/9/2011 12:56:34 PM
I just posted a thought in another topic that I've never seen anywhere...



So, what would people think of a compromise that looked a bit like this:

Federal government cut taxes drastically across the board and allow the states to pick up more responsibilities. If federal taxes were cut by 15% and state taxes were increased by 10% how would that change the balance of power?

That would reduce the federal government, give the states more authority and capital to address issues and put control back to the local level where now people get to vote on how they want their state run.

We can vote on state initiatives...



Makes more sense than free college for all...
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 30
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Posted: 12/9/2011 4:36:19 PM
As far as the politics are concerned, or any kind of conflict is concerned for that matter, there are almost always more than to sides to every story and more than two solutions to a problem, etc., etc., etc.

The 2 party system we have is ridiculous in terms of the premise of each party. Democrats want less .gov when it comes to social regulations and more .gov when it comes to business regulations. Republicans want the opposite. Both parties are inconsistent. All that does is add to the confusion and finger pointing. I want less .gov period. I want just enough .gov to enforce the minimum amount of laws to keep our right to pursue happiness from infringing on another’s right to pursue happiness. In a free society like that the down side is failure and there are always going to be people that simply are unable to survive on their own-people that can't help themselves. We should take care of those people and let everyone else sleep in the bed that they make. This society has a horrible entitlement mentality.

Here's an example of regulations in CA that are too heavy handed. In CA a non licensed contractor is called a handyman and a handyman is not allowed to take on any job over $800.00. You can't support a family on an arrangement like that. In TX the maximum sized job a non licensed contractor can take on is $10,000.00. You can support a family an arrangement like that.

In CA a licensed contractor can loose his license without a hearing of any kind whatsoever.

The DMV won’t give out extensions for smog certificates any more upon simply requesting one.

Illegal immigration is like a cancer and it is draining us of all of our resources.

These are just some things I know about from personal experience.
 KittenCatt
Joined: 6/11/2011
Msg: 31
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Posted: 12/9/2011 9:49:31 PM
I would die of happiness if something was finally, once and for all, done to get rid of every last Illegal Immigrant in this state. Only people who've lived here awhile really understand what it's like to put with them. Over 30 years for me. Completely sick of it.

 john_in_bh
Joined: 12/25/2004
Msg: 32
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Posted: 12/10/2011 9:04:49 AM

In CA a licensed contractor can loose his license without a hearing of any kind whatsoever.


Well most contractors claim they have no employees to avoid having to pay workmens comp. All their "subs" are supposed to be insured. But they are not, and often found standing around Home Depot.

Mexico not only has cornered the drug market in California, but also the construction market and a large percentage of the governmetn jobs. One day I was driving by a construction site of a new building..the workers were flying a Mexican flag on top. Not kidding.
 mateo45
Joined: 1/17/2008
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Posted: 12/10/2011 10:15:59 AM
Silly question, but how exactly does one know that someone's an "illegal immigrant".... like, do you go around and ask for everyone's birth certificate or green card? Or is it just that any "mez-kin" these days is now presumed to be an "illegal"?
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 12/10/2011 10:55:39 AM

Just move out, abandon ship, the state is sinking fast!


To where? Someplace that no one wants to migrate to? It is not just here. It is global. Just change the race. Look on YouTube for "My Tram Experience". There is a thread on the UK forum about it. Look up the elections in Sweden. In comparison we are behind the world in what could be happening. Although there were attempts to stir up race riots here not too long ago.

The simple answer is to stop voting for the idiots that are doing this stuff on purpose. You may not have kept voting for the same people that are in office either but apparently over half of California does. Would be interesting to get a number of registered / likely voters in the state and compare that with the number of unionized workers and see how close that number is to 50%.

However, I have most of my coworkers in San Francisco. I can tell you that it is almost across the board liberal with many openly socialist. So, probably have to include most of the tech sector in with liberal. They are all smarter than everyone else.

edit: Well, that didn't go anywhere.
http://goo.gl/5x7MS
44% likely voters are democrat
35 % likely voters are Republican
http://www.bls.gov/ro9/unionca.htm
18% of California is represented by union

So, it is our friends that are smarter than all of us. Thanks.
 Aries_328
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Posted: 12/10/2011 8:41:56 PM
You already know that is only temporary :)

Consider it Vegas!
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 36
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Posted: 12/12/2011 8:17:45 AM
[qupte]Silly question, but how exactly does one know that someone's an "illegal immigrant".... like, do you go around and ask for everyone's birth certificate or green card? Or is it just that any "mez-kin" these days is now presumed to be an "illegal"?

It's pretty easy. Just try to speak to them in English. If they can't carry on a descent conversation then they are more than likely illegal. Being in construction for over 30 years I can tell you that is a real good clue.
 john_in_bh
Joined: 12/25/2004
Msg: 37
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Posted: 12/12/2011 1:27:36 PM

It's pretty easy. Just try to speak to them in English. If they can't carry on a descent conversation then they are more than likely illegal. Being in construction for over 30 years I can tell you that is a real good clue.


Or just yell INS! and flash a badge..if they run, they are illegal.
 MACALA
Joined: 9/19/2011
Msg: 38
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Posted: 12/12/2011 3:24:41 PM
1. Remove all pensions from gov't workers.
City,State & Fed. All Countys too. We just can't afford it, there isn't that much money in the World.
2. Outlaw "double dipping."
3. No more benefits for illegal aliens. No schooling for their "anchor babies." In fact, deportation of all illegals.
4. Close 90% of State offices that are only there to punish success.
5. Get rid of "automatic benefits" for prisoners. Deathrow inmates should be disposed of the next business day.
6.Remove 90% of the 41,000 California vehice Codes. Really, do we need forty one thousand laws to drive a car? Really?
7. Remove regulations on businesses, (and keep exsisting) businessses from fleeing the State. (or country...)

There, I fixed California. What's next?
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 39
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Posted: 12/12/2011 10:39:58 PM
^^^^^I think you pegged a lot of the problems with a bullseye. next of course is the Fed.
 john_in_bh
Joined: 12/25/2004
Msg: 40
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Posted: 12/13/2011 1:03:25 PM
^^^^^
And all the libtards in California are going to go for something like that?
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 41
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Posted: 12/13/2011 1:28:35 PM
Quite obviously not. Moonbeam is back in office.
 john_in_bh
Joined: 12/25/2004
Msg: 42
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Posted: 12/13/2011 6:43:31 PM
Even if Moonbeam was not in, the current legislature won't let that happen.
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 43
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Posted: 12/14/2011 9:35:50 AM
Right now those of us that agree with that appear to be out numbered. I can only hope we are the silent majority or the sleeping giant. Otherwise we're never going to get out of this mess. It's difficult to leave this state because my kids are here and in NV which is in no better shape than CA. All I can hope is that enough people get disgusted that they get out to the voting booth and vote out all of the incumbents and replace them with the right kind of representatives next time around.
 mateo45
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Posted: 12/14/2011 2:03:23 PM

...NV which is in no better shape than CA.

But unlike Cali, isn't NV basically a "red" state, with the last 3 governors all Republicans?
 BrownInOrange
Joined: 7/30/2011
Msg: 45
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Posted: 12/14/2011 8:56:22 PM
It's a global thing, not just CA. Hey, at least we're not Detroit.
 Gogetter56
Joined: 10/26/2011
Msg: 46
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Posted: 12/14/2011 10:19:44 PM
CA has been going down hill for a long time. As far as Nevada is concerned, does Harry Reid ring a bell? Do Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein ring a bell? How about Nancy Pelosi? Maxine Waters? What do they all have in common?
 mateo45
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Posted: 12/15/2011 1:46:23 AM
Ah, I get it. So the reasons Nevada's problems are worse than Cali's isn't because the last 3 Guvs, and the majority of its Reps and Senators are all Republican... it's just that the state isn't Republican enuff!!

BTW, isn't that the same excuse that conservatives make for Dubya...?!!
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 12/15/2011 9:06:01 AM
Doesn't it make sense that Nevada has huge issues? The economy is based on tourism and has a bit to do with the tourist’s disposable income. Didn't we also have a point a few years ago where there was a declaration that flying to Vegas in your corporate jet and attending that conference was an affront to the struggling people of the country?

I don't live there and have not heard how the local politicans are personally fleecing the residents as they are in CA. I'm sure that does occur as well. However, Vegas has a pretty direct link to the overall economy and confidence of the residents of other states.
 CptJohnSheridan
Joined: 11/23/2011
Msg: 49
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Posted: 12/15/2011 1:43:22 PM
The main problem with California is that a bare majority can increase spending, but a 2/3 majority is required to increase revenue. This disparity causes major problems. The potential for disaster can be easily demonstrated.

9,000,001 people vote in an election

Proposition to increase spending by $5B for (schools, roads, whatever)

For: 4,500,001
Against: 4,500,000

PASSES

Proposition to increase revenue to pay for new $5B in spending

For: 6,000,000
Against: 3,000,001

FAILS
 CptJohnSheridan
Joined: 11/23/2011
Msg: 50
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Posted: 12/15/2011 3:41:27 PM
I didn't say "raise taxes" because Prop 13 was supposed to cover all revenue increases not just taxes. I think a 2/3 vote would suffice for both.
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