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 D_Ocean
Joined: 6/26/2009
Msg: 50
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Cautious, it is true that gay men have a higher risk of contracting HIV than heterosexual men, but it is not because of gay sex; it is rather due to the fact that gay men have a higher number of sexual partners than straight men.

No STD is exclusive to one group of people, but the higher the number of sexual partners one has, the higher the likely chances of them contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

If a straight man were to have as much sex with as many different partners as a gay man, then their likelihood of catching something is about the same.

Source: My cousin is a Infectious Diseases specialist, and we had a discussion about this a few years ago.
 D_Ocean
Joined: 6/26/2009
Msg: 51
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Posted: 3/27/2012 10:15:12 PM
Could it be because of this AND the fact that HIV is transmitted much easier via anal sex?


Yes, HIV is transmitted much easier via anal sex, than it is through vaginal sex. But again, anal sex isn't exclusive to homosexual men. If a heterosexual man were to engage in anal sex with a woman, then the risk is nearly the same.

This is due to the fact that anal sex has a higher chance of leading to tearing and contact with blood.
 whytwater
Joined: 8/7/2008
Msg: 52
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Posted: 3/28/2012 6:57:13 AM

HIV is transmitted much easier via anal sex, than it is through vaginal sex. But again, anal sex isn't exclusive to homosexual men. If a heterosexual man were to engage in anal sex with a woman, then the risk is nearly the same.


Saw a report recently that only twenty percent of men who identify as homosexual enjoy/participate in anal sex. The incidence in the heterosexual community is, I think, closer to twice that. Have even heard that anal is the new oral.


This is due to the fact that anal sex has a higher chance of leading to tearing and contact with blood


Uhhh, you're a 23-year old self-professed daytrader in search of a job, according to your profile. Doesn't mention any medical credentials. Any skin rubbing against any other skin can cause tearing, minute abrasions, fluid swapping. Unprotected, bareback sex is riskier than condom-style, according to all reports. Beyond that, is it really helpful to talk about numerical degrees of risks?
 D_Ocean
Joined: 6/26/2009
Msg: 53
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Posted: 3/28/2012 6:45:30 PM
Saw a report recently that only twenty percent of men who identify as homosexual enjoy/participate in anal sex. The incidence in the heterosexual community is, I think, closer to twice that. Have even heard that anal is the new oral.


I don't believe that, but either way, I'd like to see that report.


Uhhh, you're a 23-year old self-professed daytrader in search of a job, according to your profile. Doesn't mention any medical credentials


And, you're point is...???

I'm fairly certain that most people on this thread that have commented so far on HIV/STD's are not medical professionals.


Any skin rubbing against any other skin can cause tearing, minute abrasions, fluid swapping.


I've never heard of a subject contracting HIV from playing thumb wars or rubbing noses together. Have you?



Unprotected, bareback sex is riskier than condom-style, according to all reports.


I agree. I have never refuted this.

 Majicone
Joined: 5/1/2011
Msg: 54
Gays and Bisexuals
Posted: 4/15/2012 8:55:31 PM
Why does anyone need to define themselves? Humans are sexual and if another human turns you on and you turn them on why does that need to be defined? I agree about the POF option.
 good_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 55
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Posted: 4/16/2012 9:57:31 AM

I always found it funny when a person who is Gay who is asking to be accepted for who they are & then go on to hate/judge another. Why do most people care what others do. Live & let Live


The whole do as I say but not as I do is totally just annoying for me. I see it this way if that is what the OP wants..to be bi...then go for it be who you are. Quit trying to get people's approval...don't listen to the haters and nay sayers.

I often hear almost the same story that since I dress nice and take care of myself...I must be gay..so get used to it and live and let live...
 optimismfirst
Joined: 2/29/2012
Msg: 56
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Posted: 4/16/2012 8:37:35 PM
fudge packing has always been an interest. *sarcasm*
 tallshyman
Joined: 1/1/2008
Msg: 57
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Posted: 4/17/2012 10:24:47 AM
why shound I go gay after men have been horrible to me?
 onehappyfellow
Joined: 9/21/2008
Msg: 58
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Posted: 4/18/2012 9:34:11 AM
I have a male friend whose lady partner is bi and it just delights him.

I know a MFM relationship that was wonderful and lasted for many many years. It was all about pleasing her.

Next time some one asks you if you are gay or bi use he Jewish technique of answering a question with another question. Look them straight in the eyes and ask "Is this a survey or an invitation?"
 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 59
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Posted: 4/19/2012 11:04:27 AM
It is not anybodies choice
if it were all men would be bi, twice the chance of having ...lol
no really, who cares, so long as it is between two or more, consenting s
 no_1_bby
Joined: 5/3/2006
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Posted: 4/19/2012 1:31:10 PM

Next time some one asks you if you are gay or bi use he Jewish technique of answering a question with another question. Look them straight in the eyes and ask "Is this a survey or an invitation?"

I'm totally stealing this idea!! Brilliant!
 cocorico35
Joined: 9/24/2010
Msg: 61
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Posted: 4/20/2012 6:41:18 AM
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND EVEN NOW IN OUR CENTURY PEOPLE ARE DISCUSSING THESE STUPID IDEAS, WE ARE BORN TO BE WHAT WE ARE AND WE HAVE TO LIVE FREELY THE WAY WE WANT IT...YOU LIKE TO EAT MEET OTHER LIKE TO EAT CHIKEN. ETC DOES THAT MEANS HE IS NOT NORMAL..COMMON WAKE UP AND LET LIFE TAKE IT'S PATH///THAT'S WHY WE ARE WORST THAN ANIMALS INSPITE OF OUR REASONING BRAIN AND WE CREATE ENMITY AND HATERED AMONG EACH OTHER. WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE AND FIGHT IT...AND LEAVE SEX TO THE PLEASURE.
 Beachluvr56
Joined: 3/30/2012
Msg: 62
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Posted: 4/20/2012 7:16:12 PM
Bisexual: a person sexually responsive to both sexes


One of those sexes is the SAME sex. Therefore, gay (according to the definited you posted).
 Beachluvr56
Joined: 3/30/2012
Msg: 63
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Posted: 4/21/2012 6:00:46 AM

The other is the OPPOSITE sex, therefore straight. You're cherry picking.


Hmm no, I don't think so. I'm not saying you aren't attracted to both sexes. I'm just saying if you are attracted to, and have sex with, someone of the SAME sex, you are gay. If you are attracted to, and have sex with, someone of the OPPOSITE sex, whatever! You're still gay.
 foxidani2
Joined: 3/6/2012
Msg: 64
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Posted: 4/21/2012 10:07:23 AM
I was reading the posts and someone said that they were told that basically, the reasoning for the "fueding" was because gays views Bi's as "one of them" just too scared to come out, thus making them a "traider"

Well, If that really IS the reason... HOW STUPID! haha I mean really, I am not judgemental in ANY way. I know lots of gay people and lots of bi ones as well. If they are really going to judge a bisexual person because they are "confused" or simply curious... then why shouldnt people be able to judge them? (not that I would) but it seems to me that gay men and women view the public judgement on them as a negitive thing they wish would stop, and just allow them to be accepted.

We are who we are, and we cannot help what we are attrated to; thus, if gays can be gay and not have to face judgement, how come bisexuals/bi-curious indviduals cant have the same respect?

kind of contradicting, dont you think?? haha
 Aglaeca
Joined: 3/10/2012
Msg: 65
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Posted: 4/21/2012 11:01:17 AM
Personally I don’t have a problem with either…….I have close friends that are both. Now if I could just find a BI G/F I would marry her LOL
 bilby886
Joined: 7/19/2007
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Posted: 4/22/2012 3:11:49 AM

Next time some one asks you if you are gay or bi use he Jewish technique of answering a question with another question. Look them straight in the eyes and ask "Is this a survey or an invitation?"


very poignant considering we're on a dating site (invitation?) and on the forum (survey?)

Never trust the toothfairy...you know when he is around when theres the aroma of boiled chicken in the air and no-ones cooking.
 Nikki10334
Joined: 4/17/2012
Msg: 67
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Posted: 4/22/2012 6:42:10 AM

but aren't the gays supposed to be tolerant and non hating?


This is what frustrates me about many people. Being GAY is a term describing SEXUAL PREFERENCE. It has NOTHING to do with any other aspect of life or personality. Two people can hypothetically share all the exact same traits, likes, and lifestyles choices, except have a diffence in sexual partners. Who you sleep with doesn't dictate who you are. Any "gay" person is equally as capable of hate, or any other emotion for that matter, as any "straight" person.

Stop being so naive. Stereotypes aren't fact.
 dancingqueen1105
Joined: 9/2/2007
Msg: 68
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Posted: 6/4/2012 9:11:53 PM

ffs first homos start calling non homos homophobes, and now the homos are bisexualphobes. wtf is gonna come up next? heres a clue , keep your sexual preferences to yourselves, noone cares and its noone elses business, it doesnt matter what our mental issues are, if you make a big deal and parade yourself around like a freak, youll be seen and treated accordingly, what you choose to do in the bedroom is your own business noone elses. why all the focus on who u stick ur****in or whos snatch u munch? when did society start to attribute a persons value and self worth upon who or what they choose to have sex with as opposed to their personal virtues? seems some clown will always start something to get ppl riled up about just to make themselves look or seem more important than they truly are. personally i think homos just act like that for attention , i mean, really, they are still the same as everyone else, just they lack mental strength to create themselves naturally and choose to just fall into a limp wristed passive aggressive misunderstood and uncared about group who only got attention because of infantile temper tantrums and gay pride parades, if they were really proud there would be no need for a parade. and they wouldnt try so hard to get acceptance from the very people they hate the most .


Lets look at the mechanics of what you are suggesting...
I am a gay male, that is, I am a male that is attracted to other men. Society tells us we need to have "partners" wives, husbands, significant others... what have you, and for the most part, people do like to be with other people, it is embedded in our DNA some can admit it, others cannot... whatever, we do though. So, if I am not making it obvious, or advertising the societal expectation of what a gay man does, and other gay men are not doing the same, how do you expect a gay man to find another partner?
Maybe in bigger cities it's different, I understand in Europe it's different (Of course they are light years ahead of us societal speaking) but if I started flirting with every man I found attractive in my podunk hick town, I'd get the ever loving crap beaten out of me. so rather than risk that, and not because they are homophobes, but because apparently to men, our society has deemed it an insult for a man to express attraction to another man that happens to not be gay.

In summation, it is easy for you to suggest such things as I can imagine without looking at your profile, that you are probably speaking from a privileged position, and have no idea of the repercussions of what you suggest.
 dancingqueen1105
Joined: 9/2/2007
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Posted: 6/4/2012 9:18:17 PM

Hmm no, I don't think so. I'm not saying you aren't attracted to both sexes. I'm just saying if you are attracted to, and have sex with, someone of the SAME sex, you are gay. If you are attracted to, and have sex with, someone of the OPPOSITE sex, whatever! You're still gay.


So let me get this straight... er gay? ummm.... straightgay?

So you take the definitions from the dictionary but only determine one as relevant, but the other definition is not?
If you are going to use the source, you have to use the whole source, not just part of it.... unless your a Christian I guess.....
 stonecastle
Joined: 2/14/2007
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Posted: 6/11/2012 3:19:49 AM
Bi-sexual women are hot and sexy, but gay or bi men men? Come on that is a total turn off and is sick in my opinion. The Bible for example condemns gay men but does not condemn sexual acts between women. Maybe because writers of the Bible found it such a big turn on.
 len129
Joined: 8/22/2006
Msg: 71
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Posted: 6/20/2012 10:52:06 AM
I married a bi gal was thirty years of drama . She still is searching for the right gal or guy or who knows . She says she is a witch now the drama goes on and on.
 Maggie__x
Joined: 5/30/2012
Msg: 72
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Posted: 6/21/2012 12:51:59 PM
My main concern with dating a bi guy is that I wouldn't be ale to give him exactly what he wants.
 tygerpawn
Joined: 6/10/2012
Msg: 73
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Posted: 6/21/2012 1:42:44 PM
Ewwww, I would never date a guy who is Bi thats just nasty.
I cant imagine kissin a guy who likes suck c0ck or likes it up the ass.
 RUREADY4ME1831
Joined: 4/23/2012
Msg: 74
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Posted: 7/17/2012 10:44:11 PM
It all goes back to nature dear....one becomes the man...giver....one becomes the woman...the receivrr....I myself love a beautiful long haired girl getting ln top the very first time snd grntlely lowering her besuyiful **** on my**** Then I see her long hair streaming over her tiyties and her leankng fown to kiss me....alll I can say is.......OMG!
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