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 annasthasia
Joined: 5/4/2005
Msg: 126
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^^^LOL!

Don't forget the will!
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 127
Health Problems
Posted: 1/9/2012 8:25:57 AM

^^^LOL!

Don't forget the will!


Yes make sure your will is in order. Also I have my burial plot and my funeral prepaid so my
children will not have to deal with it.. I was in my late 30's when I bought my quadruple plot and am so glad I bought it then.. What cost me a thousand then would most likely be 6,000 now for that sized plot.. Also bought the stone and had it engraved with my date of birth and a spot left for my date of death..

My affairs were in order at an early age due to my husband's passing..

nativerock
 Ready_Real
Joined: 12/30/2010
Msg: 128
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:08:39 AM

That is a realistic picture of MS for a number of folks with MS.


"A number" might represent 25%. At the early onset stage. Provided the MS patient has financial means to accommodate the ongoing and ever-increasing costs of this disease. The picture is not at all "realistic" for the vast majority of MS sufferers in the mid-later stages. And 100% inaccurate for those suffering in the late stages --- which may last for a decade or longer.
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 129
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:32:21 AM

I don't think anyone is silly enough to believe that lifestyle choices are going to literally prevent certain things like heart attacks or cancer


Well some people believe that they can prevent cancer but alkalizing their bodies.. I also eat an alkaline diet but not sure it will prevent it ..

As for those with MS I know quite a few people that have it, because they have written to me.They join my blog since they go on a completely raw diet, like I am. MS is in partly genetic but environmental factors are also part of the equation..

Good lectures on it on you tube search for Current thinking on what causes MS - Pt 1 - MSRA Public Lecture -Prof Graeme Stewart he does it in parts so check for part 2 as well

nativerock
 *army mom*
Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 130
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Posted: 1/9/2012 12:05:32 PM
Wow ... what happened to the subject of my original post? It appears it's been hijacked into a discussion of everyone's personal health problems ...

Ya know, you can post your own particular thread people.
 DrummingNut
Joined: 4/26/2010
Msg: 131
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Posted: 1/9/2012 2:06:08 PM

Wow ... what happened to the subject of my original post? It appears it's been hijacked into a discussion of everyone's personal health problems ...

Ya know, you can post your own particular thread people.


Well, you started this thread with this:

I realize as we age, most of us develop some health problems. When you're in the getting-to-know someone stage, is it OK to ask about health problems? Has anyone ever asked and then freaked out when you learned about someone's health problems?
and then you went on to tell of your personal example of your health problem (liver transplant)..
and of someone else's health problem and how it affected you and your decision to date them.
We didn't stray too far from that.
Or did you want us to just talk about YOUR health problem and HIS?
But you did ask if we're freaked by anyone else's health problems... so this thread isn't all about just YOU.
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 132
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Posted: 1/9/2012 2:54:10 PM
We should all be doing the best we can to take care of ourselves. A combination of good medical treatment and healthy diet and lifestyle will help. To say a raw diet or be a vegan or add flax or whatever is simplistic and not realistic. Again, unless you have DR. after your name I wouldn't be giving out medical advice. It's nothing more than all the well intentioned folks telling me how to "cure" my arthritis. Some stuff helps but most stuff is best flushed down the toilet. There are no cures for arthritis, cancer, MS, parkinson, alzheimers, heart failure, stroke, etc. - just treatments or things that make the symptoms easier to handle.

We're all gonna die.
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 133
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Posted: 1/9/2012 3:49:47 PM

A combination of good medical treatment and healthy diet and lifestyle will help. To say a raw diet or be a vegan or add flax or whatever is simplistic and not realistic. Again, unless you have DR. after your name I wouldn't be giving out medical advice.


I might add to that the DR, others that can give out medical advise is an ND.. However did not see anyone giving out any medical on this thread. I mentioned those that choose to go the route of a raw diet due to having MS . They do not ask me for medical advise they ask for raw recipes..

nativerock
 whatsnotinaname
Joined: 5/31/2010
Msg: 134
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Posted: 1/10/2012 9:06:47 PM
Someone wrote: "However, for the vast majority of people who were diagnosed [with multiple sclerosis] 20, 30, or 40 years ago, this picture of someone brimming with health, vitality and strength is not typical at all."

Actually, this posters is a bit behind the times. Lots of folks live with MS into their 80's with few problems if they modify their life styles appropriately (ultra low fat diet, adequate nutrition, exercise, enough sleep).

The poster seems to be reading a lot of information put out by the drug companies that have a lot to gain by sellin $50,000 per year prescriptions to those with MS. Of course, these drug companies are goin to make the disease sound worse than it often is.

Honestly, I am a bit offended that the writer would make the many individuals I know how have had MS for decades sound disabled when they are not disabled at all -- running, playing golf, working, etc.
 Giggles10000
Joined: 6/17/2011
Msg: 135
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:30:55 PM

I can see women that will not state up front what their health issues are.


lol I worry more about the prozac etc they take to be *normal! (both men/women)

See in my humble opinion; love doesnt really care what health problems someone else might have. To go into a relationship insisting that it last till nursing home rockers vs enjoying the life you might get to have with someone however limited it might be.

See if someone is lying to hide their health issues then you have to wonder what else are they hiding; that's a clue to what their character is.

I also think if George Clooney had a heart attack tomorrow most of the ladies on this thread wouldnt turn him down if he asked even if they knew he had a heart condition.

The fact is that most consider themselves and their issues to be > that members of the opposite sex and they are holding out for something better.

It reminds me of a bad bar scene where a couple eyes each other early in the night, maybe even dance a dance and then the club fills up and each thinks they can do better but at closing time there they both sit ...rejected by everyone else so now they go off together....
 Welsh474
Joined: 9/13/2010
Msg: 136
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Posted: 1/11/2012 4:59:56 AM
"Honestly, I am a bit offended that the writer would make the many individuals I know how have had MS for decades sound disabled when they are not disabled at all -- running, playing golf, working, etc"

In response to msg. 147 - I think the poster you are referring to will be offended with your comments as well as her sister has MS and the poster has been dealing with this all her life. Having a family member with an illness is first hand knowledge as far as I'm concerned. And I'm sure she wishes her sister was running, play golf, working, etc. Many are confined to wheelchairs, many are in nursing homes or have full time car and many have died.
 frijolera_ninja
Joined: 4/11/2011
Msg: 137
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Posted: 1/11/2012 8:09:55 AM
Ive had many patients with MS and not all are fortunate to remain fully functioning. But of course I dont see them til end stages in the disease. Many have neurogenic bladders, confined to wheelchairs needing assistance to even get in the wheelchair, Ive even had a few on ventilators. MS is a nasty miserable bytch and hopefully this thread can open some eyes to it and when you see a non profit that does research give em some time or a donation!
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 138
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Posted: 1/11/2012 8:55:17 AM

Actually, this posters is a bit behind the times. Lots of folks live with MS into their 80's with few problems if they modify their life styles appropriately (ultra low fat diet, adequate nutrition, exercise, enough sleep).


Indeed one person that comes to mind and has many raw videos on you tube is Rene Oswald who was diagnosed with it at an early age (early 30's) and now she is around my age. Others my choose to follow a Swank diet, an MS diet and believe there is one other one unfortunately cannot remember what it is called..


Honestly, I am a bit offended that the writer would make the many individuals I know how have had MS for decades sound disabled when they are not disabled at all -- running, playing golf, working, etc.


Indeed I know more than just Rene Oswald but she was one you could see in the flesh how well she is 20 plus years after she was diagnosed.. I just did not wish to mention this since many will not believe it..so I left it alone

nativerock
 911love
Joined: 11/27/2011
Msg: 139
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:03:04 AM
I dont want to get all over you OP, but in one of your pictures you look like you are downing a beer. Can you drink with your condition? I have an ex SIL who had a transplant and she drank and became very ill!

PS...Your initial post even says you don't drink.

Anyhow I ask the health question too! I try hard to take care of myself and I don’t want to date some guy who can hardly carry groceries in, or walk a few blocks without getting winded or needs to take a break while strolling through the mall! Can a guy like that even have sex?
 *army mom*
Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 140
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:17:45 AM
Msg. 152 -- You're right about the beer in one of my profile pics. And I explained it earlier in this thread that I was on vacation and I have maybe one a year ... and it was an o'Douls (non-alcoholic). So I'm not being dishonest when I say I don't drink in my profile. And death is imminent for transplant patients who drink. A friend of mine died because he continued drinking post-transplant. And frankly I'm surprised at the number of people who actually believe you can drink after a transplant because "you have a brand new liver" -- like it's OK to start abusing the new one. Alcohol renders the anti-rejection meds useless, thus causing the organ to reject. Not a chance I'm willing to take because I'm so grateful to have been granted a second chance at life. Not many people can say that.
 911love
Joined: 11/27/2011
Msg: 141
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:33:14 AM
army mom i want to make sure you know i was not thinking you were being dishonest. my ex sil had a seizure from drinking and she was in the hospital, she is ok, but she does not look anywhere near as good as you do. i guess i would be more concerned that a potential suitor would think you drink. god bless!
 *army mom*
Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 142
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:55:07 AM
^^^Thank you for the compliments and good wishes, 911love. It was a very long road to recovery and I try my best to live a healthy life.

I've thought several times about taking that picture down so as to not mislead anyone. But since no one reads the profile anyway, I figure what the hell ...
 ExquisiteWoman
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 143
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Posted: 1/13/2012 7:09:58 AM
army mom...why judge the man who has all these medical problems when you have them too! you have hep c...isn't that something to run from...how can you say that your perfectly healthy when you still have to pop 2 pills from the transplant....you have a disease that you can give to others who don't have hep c...i have no diseases and i will never put myself out there to date if i had hep c...i went on a date with a man who was in his 60's...found out he had a bad heart condition and takes meds for them...after i found out i had him take me home...i'm very careful not to date anyone who have diseases or any other kind of health problems...i'm upfront...i'll ask questions before i even think about meeting someone...its a waste of time not being upfront about any of your health problems...and you shouldn't be wanting to date if you have any kind of a disease that you can give to someone that you can't get rid of...i won't put up with anyone who lies about anything...its not worth it...i really think if a person has bad health he/she should be so open about it...state it on your profile...look for someone who has the same thing...people need to be very careful who they date ... people need to take better care of themselves...no one should put the burden on another cuz of ones health...its not worth it....people with copd is a death call...i know i have a sister with this...she is in & out of the hospital...its her own fault for smoking and i have an aunt with copd its her fault too for smoking...there is no means for anyone to harm ones body....so put it on your profile if you have major health problems...cuz there is someone out there who have the same things and you don't have to worry about who can give who your diseases .... no one should be dating if you have major health problems...this is the way i feel...so be it!!!
 *army mom*
Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 144
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Posted: 1/13/2012 7:31:07 AM
Msg. 156 -- You have missed the point of the original post. Yes, I HAD serious health issues. They have been resolved with the transplant, although I will always carry the hep c virus. It has been rendered dormant through the use of interferon. I've completely changed my lifestyle to try to keep any other problems away. However, I realize life comes with no guarantees. The guy I was referring to wasn't doing a thing to try to better his health. He was a smoker with high blood pressure. And your uneducated comment about how I have to "pop 2 pills" because of my transplant -- you obviously have no idea how many pills most transplant patients take in one day, so I won't chastise you too much for that comment. Two pills a day is nothing.

I don't mean to be hateful. I just get tired of defending my own health against people who are completely uneducated about transplants. And in case you missed it, hep c is a blood-borne virus. The chances of it being sexually transmitted are so minimal that it shouldn't be a concern. I had active hep c during my last 2 marriages, having unprotected sex, and neither one of my ex's contracted it. Nor did my son, and I was pregnant with him while I had active hep c.
 ExquisiteWoman
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 145
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Posted: 1/13/2012 8:02:38 AM
Hepatitis C is a contagious viral disease that leads to serious, permanent liver damage, and in many cases, death.
 ohenryx
Joined: 3/12/2010
Msg: 146
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Posted: 1/13/2012 8:12:28 AM

Whether hepatitis C can be transmitted through sexual activity is controversial.[24] While there is an association between high-risk sexual activity and hepatitis C, it is not known whether transmission of the disease is due to drug use that has not been admitted to or sex as a risk factor.[5] The majority of evidence supports there being no risk for monogamous heterosexual couples.[24] Sexual practices that involve higher levels of trauma to the anogenital mucosa, such as anal penetrative sex, or that occur when there is a concurrent sexually transmitted infection, including HIV or genital ulceration, do present a risk.[24] The United States government only recommends condom use to prevent hepatitis C transmission in those with multiple partners.[25]


Hmmm.... I was posting in response to exquisite_woman, who seemed to be really going after army_mom. But that post has now been edited, and toned down, so.....
 nativerock
Joined: 10/16/2010
Msg: 147
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Posted: 1/13/2012 8:27:50 AM

The United States government only recommends condom use to prevent hepatitis C transmission in those with multiple partners.[25]


1. According to the HCV Partner Study completed by the Centers for Disease Control in 2004, the risk of sexual transmission in the United States is 2.2 percent in monogamous heterosexual relationships where one partner has Hepatitis C.

Although the percentage is very low (2.2%) still would advise protection if it was me..

nativerock
 kari135
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 148
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Posted: 1/13/2012 8:28:09 AM
ExquisiteWoman:

Hepatitis C is a contagious viral disease that leads to serious, permanent liver damage, and in many cases, death.


You don't know quite as much as you think you do. My husband got hep C from a dirty transfusion when he was about 16. It was about 30 years after that before he had any symptoms at all. And while it's true that was the primary cause of his death, he didn't die for another 15 years or so after it was diagnosed. He very rarely had to take meds of any kind, mostly it was controlled with diet.

This little overview is from the CDC:


Hepatitis C is a contagious liver disease that results from infection with the Hepatitis C virus. It can range in severity from a mild illness lasting a few weeks to a serious, lifelong illness. Hepatitis C is usually spread when blood from a person infected with the Hepatitis C virus enters the body of someone who is not infected. Today, most people become infected with the Hepatitis C virus by sharing needles or other equipment to inject drugs. Before 1992, when widespread screening of the blood supply began in the United States, Hepatitis C was also commonly spread through blood transfusions and organ transplants.


And btw, all the time we were together, over 20 years, we had unprotected sex and I never got it.
 *army mom*
Joined: 6/9/2009
Msg: 149
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Posted: 1/13/2012 8:31:14 AM
Thank you, ohenryx and kari ... Try as I might to educate people, some people just don't want to be educated. And people tend to be afraid of something they don't fully understand. The only proof I have that the chances are slim-to-none of sexual transmission without IV use are my own experiences with my last marriages.

I said in an earlier post if two people were engaged in rough sex, and perhaps blood was exchanged, there would obviously be a higher risk of contamination. I have never been advised by my transplant specialists that there was a concern of transmission via normal sexual activity. However, I do tell anyone I might have sex with, even though protection is used, that I have hep c. No one has ever been scared off. I've even had a couple of guys tell me they were OK without protection ... I, however, was not OK with that.

I rest my case ...
 frijolera_ninja
Joined: 4/11/2011
Msg: 150
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Posted: 1/13/2012 10:28:58 AM
I dont think even if you screamed at the top of your lungs for some that the whole point is you take care of yourself . The other guy was a slacker and a slob and was just too lazy to take care of himself. Huge difference in my book!
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