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 valenciacityx
Joined: 3/10/2009
Msg: 76
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Its the END of the WORLD
I am getting married !
nobody left me a memo on the date that hell would freeze over, so this is the next best thing.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 77
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Posted: 1/5/2012 6:17:38 AM

Gwen i wasn't trying to portray it as my own.


Explanation accepted, but I was not looking for the words of someone else, I was looking for you to display your knowledge on the subject, backed up with information from the primary source: the Bible.


If i was an expert then i would be able to cite the bible off key word for world in its scriptures in which i clearly can't.


Nonsense! I am an expert on Frankenstein (I wrote my thesis on it), but I can't quote it word for word. I am a quasi expert on the Bible; I find that I know more about it than most Christians. Also, because I am an expert in mythology (and no, I don't know all the myths of any culture), I can relate it to previous mythoi and show how there is little (if anything) original in the Bible.

When you made the comment about "real" Christians, you set yourself up as judge and arbiter of every Christian in the world. By reckoning, it indicates that you know MORE about Christianity than they do--and that makes you the expert, eh? I mean absolutely no offense by this, but I have the feeling that while you are strong on faith, you are weak on the knowledge of the history of your religion and how it appropriated myths and rules from other religions.

But you are right: this is a circular discussion. I want to hear logic and historical accuracy, not faith. :)
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 78
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Posted: 1/5/2012 8:29:27 AM
^^^Hoisted on his own petard.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 1/5/2012 1:18:50 PM
And i did, but i had to research what you said to get t o the backbone of i t.

I think you know what i meant as me saying I'm no expert. Not taken the word for word illiterately, but as highly knowledgeable is what I'm getting at in the subject. As you can see i needed to do some research so therefore i am no expert.

Well Gwen there are standards that we Christians must upheld and using it to your own advantage to manipulate your hate is not one of them. So therefor those that do are judged by those that don't.

i don't think one can judge another based on a couple things that we have talked about in regards to ones knowledge of the history of the bible itself considering the bible is very large and even though there are some areas in the bible in which i have to research on because it's been a while since i read the bible there are other many parts of the bible where i know the history of it quite well esp in the new testament a lot more so then the old testament.

You're right debating this is a circular discussion much like politics. You have your side and i have mine, but just to be clear i hope you understand that i was in no way shape or forum trying to convince you otherwise or anything regarding your own view on it. Even though we don't agree, i respect your opinion and viewpoints and if any Christian has done wrong to you anytime in the past to have the type of sentiment that you do about Christians, then i hope you don't' portray that on every Christian because of a few bad apples that give the rest of us a bad name.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 80
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Posted: 1/5/2012 2:01:32 PM

I think you know what i meant as me saying I'm no expert. Not taken the word for word illiterately,


Do you mean "literally"?
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 1/5/2012 2:04:50 PM
Yes you know what i meant by that too.

 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:48:48 AM
well, it is 2012, and the world did not end.....just like Y2K, oh, the doom!!!!
and the Mayans never expected the world to end, just the start of a new era.....
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:46:44 PM

well, it is 2012, and the world did not end.....just like Y2K, oh, the doom!!!!
and the Mayans never expected the world to end, just the start of a new era.....


It isn't December yet.
 JustinSane2
Joined: 7/9/2011
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:54:55 PM
Zombies. That is all.
 Thee_Stranger
Joined: 8/5/2011
Msg: 85
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Posted: 1/7/2012 12:20:53 AM
Well, the economy will collapse first and there will be a massive food shortage... and complete social degradation, rioting, pillaging, violence, death and destruction.

THE GOOD NEWS???

Women are gonna have to do what it takes to survive, like the old days. They're gonna have to revert to their original role and jobs in society. That being subservient to the man -- the hunter -- who takes care of them. So be sure to have a healthy food supply when the time comes. All this crap that everybody thinks is so important right now, kiss all that goodbye. Dudes with food are gonna be gettin' laid left and right.

So facebook and POF will be gone, but I know I'm gonna be gettin' laid a lot more.
 Akizzej
Joined: 5/1/2009
Msg: 86
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Posted: 1/7/2012 12:41:09 AM

Women are gonna have to do what it takes to survive, like the old days. They're gonna have to revert to their original role and jobs in society. That being subservient to the man -- the hunter -- who takes care of them.


I know it's off topic but.....


Yah, sure kiddo...

Back on topic:

wondered if people have good suggestions for the end of the world in 2012 (assuming the Mayans were right)

"what is the best approach on POF for my final hour of life on Earth?"


{in the unlikely event that there really is an 'end of the world' apocalypse} I'll be sending out multiple emails to those who had 'viewed me' with:
"you missed months of great sex because you couldn't make a move to 'message' me and just kept watching me from a distance through my profile"
 Enki_Ea
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 87
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:56:26 PM
I have my own interpretation of the Koran after having studied it. Though validating it through analysis, and still holding the Bible as the superior text, it would not fit the parameters of organized Islam. My interpretation of the Bible is not something that one would hear from pulpits in most churches of organized Christendom except one. Organized religion is nothing more than the money changers in the Temple screwing those honest in heart people over. It is a fact, whether anyone likes it or not, that life on earth was created by 4 main "Extra Terrestrials" named in the Sumerian Accounts: Anu(Father and Son in One{John 14}), Antu(The Spirit), En Lil and Enki-Ea- the names of the two Cheribum on the Ark of The Covenant. Humanity needs this hard lesson taught to it. So as Jesus Christ ascended into a "Cloud:" an Indentified Flying Object, so also will He return. It was from this "Cloud" that the Nazca Lines in Peru were made in the very days Jesus was on earth. It was Jesus Christ who taught the Mayans and Aztecs their Calendar, as He was name by them KuKulKan and Quetzocoatl respectively. The multiple "gods" of the Mayans and Aztecs are all aspects of this one and the same Supreme Deity, who was/is Jesus Christ.
Humanity deserves this "Alien Invasion."
"Behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him. "
The Book of Enoch Chapter 2
"And I saw heaven(SPACE) opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven(SPACE) followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." Revelation 19:11-16



It is going to be lovely war.
 Enki_Ea
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 88
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:06:52 PM
In My Church there is one page of the Bible we tear out: the page separating the two Testaments, as we follow a Whole Testament.
Here another Prophecy fulfilled out of The Gospel of Thomas vs. 3
" Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

For the last two New Years Eves there have thousands of dead birds in Arkansas and dead fish washing up on sea shores.
www.earthfiles.com
Calamity is a spectator sport too.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 89
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:11:04 PM
I have my own interpretation of the Koran after having studied it.

Through analysis and use logic and common sense I was able to determine it is all made up bullsh*t and still holding the Bible and all the other stuff to dealing with invisible sky wizards with the same regard.




It is going to be lovely war

Holy wars have been going on for centuries and still do to this day, so nothing new there.

Though, are you wanting it happen (end of world / apocalypse)just so you can say, look I was right?
 Enki_Ea
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 90
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:21:38 PM
The world ends for someone somewhere every day, just because it was not your day, does not mean it is not happening. Look at Japan and what happened to them; the Fukushima reactor is still spewing radiation into the air and sea. You are smart enough to know a quake like that is and will having far reaching effects on the continental plates. Actually yes, I am wanting total planetary upheaval. I am wanting it for my pleasure. I sure do not live my life in fear, but prepare always to take care of me and mine. Scouts Honor: "Be Prepared!!" As screwed as people are on earth it is only right that they be judged.
Hence the popular phrase "Shit Happens."
"Its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine."
 Enki_Ea
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 91
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:26:17 PM
Thanks petygrace, I will try to restrain myself. AA and I already went at it in the other forum. He hates me, and I am not too crazy about him either. It is incorrect to say "End of the World" per se, but better phrased end of the age. The "Mayan Calendar" as taught to the Mayans by Jesus Christ is a lot older than the Mayan's culture. going back 3113 BC in the beginning of the Dynasties of Egypt and after Atlantis was wiped out.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:39:34 PM

"Be Prepared!!" As screwed as people are on earth it is only right that they be judged.

Well I will agree we are all screwed, but that is by design so it is not like we do not know at some point we will like all other living things that have existed and will exist, we will become extinct.

How that will happen is completely up to chance, it is possible it will be of our doing directly or indirectly, but it is going to happen either way.

I have virus in the office pool though with regards to what wipes us out. Which means that we had an indirect influence in our demise.
 Enki_Ea
Joined: 12/18/2011
Msg: 93
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Posted: 1/7/2012 6:09:32 PM
AA,
It is best to take care of your own household. I am not mad at you for feeling the way you do; and, it is hard to actually know someone just off a forum. Everyone espouses ideals that they feel suits them best, and are the masters of their own houses. Many people in ancient cultures from Israelites to Native Americans all predicted this to be a time environmental and social upheaval. It intrigues, even delights me, in light of calamity, not so much to see that I am right, but they were right. The world is run by the epitomy of all that is bad and evil; the love of money is root of all evil, and runs the show in the world. People starve to death because the oppressive governments will not feed them. People are oppressed in a spiritual sense by those who rule in the realm of religion to use it as a means to illegitimate gain and control. Every generation of American young people in the 20th and 21st century has been sent off to no-win wars, so a few can get richer and gain more oppressive control over the people. 9-11 was inside job, which had nothing to do with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iran. Even IF the part of the official story regarding hijackers is correct, most of them were from Saudi Arabia, who incidently is benefitting big time from the wars against their competition. Bin Laden has been dead since 12/01, and the female Pakistani President Benazir Bhutto was murdered by the same organizations involved in 9-11 because she even stated Bin Laden was dead in 07. While American troops are sent out conquering and to conquer, the only nation conquered is the USA. The list goes on.
I study history, so I can discern the present not live in fear thereof it. This so I am not caught up in the mindless groupthink of the hysteria that grips the world like a Witchcraft Spell. I study religion because in understanding spirituality it gives me insight into people's mentality and vice versa. I have to be many things in my work from counselor, mediator, to fighter. In understanding others I gain a greater understanding of myself.
Yes you and I do not agree on a whole lot, but we are both of different life experiences and upbringings that brought to be what and who we are as individuals. I do not care to be mad at you, and to get on here and squabble with you. If you have a point of view, feel free to write about it, and share what you have in knowledge; it may be the piece of a puzzle another reader is looking for. Likewise I do the same, that is why we are on here. Knowledge and wisdom does evolve right before our eyes.
What is "the end of the world?"
It is all around you. Where other people follow sports and such, I study a great many things in my personal time that are of edification in my personal life. Take care of yourself and those whom you love.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 94
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Posted: 1/8/2012 11:50:32 AM

Many people in ancient cultures from Israelites to Native Americans all predicted this to be a time environmental and social upheaval.


The Israelites did not have a doomsday scenario: everything that is of this nature in the Hebrew Scriptures refers to situations in that time. I find it amazing that many (I won't say all because I don't know the minds of ALL) the people who WROTE the Hebrew Scriptures--the Jews--disagree with modern interpretations of ancient prophecy. As for Native Americans predicting calamity, they weren't able to halt or prevent the demise of their own cultures.

Not only that, but the world has consistently been in environmental and social upheaval! One only has to be a dedicated student of history to know this. Angkor Wat was abandoned because the city grew so large and populated that they overworked the surrounding land and it became barren. We see this in other areas around the globe. Social upheaval? What was the fall of Egypt from a world power, the fall of Rome, the Great Schism circa 1100 CE, the Protestant Reformation, the Catholic inquisition, and the Industrial Revolution coupled with the Victorian era?

Saying that there will be environmental problems and social upheaval is THE best prophecy because it will not be wrong: it is much too general and history bears it out. When people seize a prophecy and give specifics, they have ALWAYS been wrong, even when they use "science" to calculate it, i.e. the dire warnings about Y2K. The Mayan "prophecy" will not come to pass, but the proponents of same will regroup and figure a new date.

Is there a chance of a breakdown of society? Yes, history bears that out, too. Is there a chance of a comet hitting the planet? Yes, but I would rather not know since there is little chance that any will survive the hit or the aftermath.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 1/8/2012 12:40:25 PM
On CBC Radio One today there was a great program with respect to this topic.


Link to site: http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry/

Link to Audio: http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=2184170413


Apocalypse Soon

Sunday January 8, 2012

So how is it that we find ourselves here once again with Doomsday close at hand? This time around it's the Maya calendar and the fact that some interpretations say it ends on December 21, 2012. Some believe that signals the end for planet Earth - at least as we know it. (Or perhaps this signals an end to end-of-the-world predictions?)

This time on Tapestry, Mary investigates the latest cultural obsession with the Apocalypse. She begins her quest with Elizabeth Graham, an archeologist who has spent her career digging at Maya sites. She says she's had just about enough of this 2012 business!

Next, Mary speaks with Tom Perotta. He's a best-selling novelist who thought he knew all about scary. Then he started doing research into the End Times, also known as the Rapture.

Finally, we hear from David Spangler on the subject. David is a writer, a teacher and a freelance mystic. He was one of the early founders of the Findhorn Community in Scotland. Spangler says when he looks around at all the fuss over 2012, he sees a kind of Apocalypse Porn.

And a web only feature.... Digging into the archives, we wanted to repost something special. On the Tapestry of January 31, 2010, Garvia Bailey shared a revealing essay about her experience of the Rapture - or what she thought was the Rapture. Bailey was only a child when she believed her mother had been lifted up into heaven, leaving her behind.
 OutofControlMan
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 96
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Posted: 1/8/2012 1:10:34 PM

AA,
It is best to take care of your own household.


um, yeah. I'm sure you can easily reconcile that "me-first" statement with excerpts from the bible such as "“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ " (Matt. 25:40)

it's all contradictions & interesting paradoxes, no?
 keyman11
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Posted: 1/9/2012 3:07:28 PM
the world has already ended man....this is hellll lol
 chromelove08
Joined: 11/17/2008
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Posted: 1/13/2012 4:38:47 PM
HAHA the world is not ending this year or anytime soon....the mayan calendar is just starting over like its been doing for thousands of years. Some people are idiots for believing this crap.
 BrookfieldGentlemanTom
Joined: 12/17/2011
Msg: 99
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Posted: 1/14/2012 1:55:33 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^i agree

"i would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven"

anyone remember where that line came from???
 chromelove08
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Posted: 1/14/2012 10:53:49 PM
Might as well make your last years on this earth exciting lol
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