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 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 74
Rick SantorumPage 6 of 7    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)

Basiclly he needs 3 Hail Mary's and two onside kicks because he is behind by 3 touchdowns with a minute left in the game and anyone that knows anything about football knows that's pretty much impossible to do with that amount of time left in the game.


Well, now that Denver is cutting Tebow loose, maybe Santorum could give it a try enlisting Tebow. That guy not only can score in a hurry, but he also prays at the drop of a hat.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 75
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/21/2012 2:27:07 PM
I'm surprised Santorum hasn't enlisted this spooky priest to make appearances with him, or hasn't at least made some comments to back up his case. (If you only use the link to see the article's creepy-looking photo of this priest it will be worth it. Yikes! Spanish Inquisition ghost incarnate!)



Denying Communion: A priest and a lesbian set off a Catholic culture clash

By Michael S. Rosenwald and Michelle Boorstein, Published: March 17

The moment was fleeting.

Barbara Johnson reached out to receive Holy Communion at her mother’s funeral Mass last month at St. John Neumann Catholic Church in Gaithersburg. The Rev. Marcel Guarnizo, standing before her, placed his hand over the offering bowl, denying her the sacrament.

Those mere seconds between Johnson, no ordinary Catholic, and Guarnizo, no ordinary priest, have touched off a heated controversy among Catholics across the country — another battle in the seemingly endless cultural wars that have invadednearly every corner of daily life, even funerals.

Conservatives have accused Johnson, an openly gay woman, of promoting a liberal political agenda at her mother’s funeral, of all places. The Archdiocese of Washington has accused Guarnizo, a Russian-ordained traditionalist with powerful friends, of intimidating parish staff after the incident and suspended him from his priestly duties. He, in turn, has essentially accused church officials of lying.

[...]


If Father Spooky doesn't resolve his issues with the Washington Archdiocese maybe he'll defrock and join Santorum's campaign. He'd fit right in.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 76
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/22/2012 7:57:22 PM
Oops - forgot to post the link ^^^^^ for anybody who's interested:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/denying-communion-a-priest-and-a-lesbian-set-off-a-catholic-culture-clash/2012/03/15/gIQA9roNJS_story.html
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 77
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/23/2012 2:30:46 PM
In the footage, filmed at the Greenwell Springs Baptist Church in Louisiana yesterday, Pastor Dennis Terry told a crowd that anyone who doesn’t worship God should leave the country, before calling on people to "stand up" against" gay people, liberals and women who have abortions.


“Listen to me. If you don’t love America, and you don’t like the way we do things, I’ve got one thing to say, get out!,” he said. “We don’t worship Buddha, we don’t worship Mohammed, we don’t worship Allah. We worship God. We worship God’s son Jesus Christ.”


To a rapturous applause, Pastor Terry continued: “As long as they continue to kill little babies in our mother’s womb, somebody’s got to take a stand and say it’s not right. God be merciful to us as a nation. As long as sexual perversion is becoming normalised, somebody needs to stand up and say God forgive us, God have mercy upon us.”


Republican contender Mr Santorum was shown clapping approvingly in the background as the rightwing pastor delivered the ranting fire and brimstone address. He later received a personal blessing from the preacher who called on God's will to be done in the upcoming election


And this one of the people the GOP has a one of it's front-runners? Horrible!
 trinity818
Joined: 9/1/2006
Msg: 78
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/23/2012 6:19:08 PM

And this one of the people the GOP has a one of it's front-runners? Horrible!


If the information contained in your post in true...it IS absolutely horrible!

And scary...
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 79
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/23/2012 9:04:26 PM
Msg. #125 : "This is clearly nothing more than a staged event, common nowadays, ones in which actors play certain parts in a scene, a scene that is orchestrated to achieve the social engineering desired by the elite. "

Why would you state that these people are "actors"? Here is some of the family background, as quoted in your own post:



The seeds of the collision date back to 2007, when Johnson’s parents joined St. John Neumann because it was near their new home in upper Montgomery County. Though the family showed up at Sunday Mass sparingly — mostly because of the parents’ advancing ages — they were devout Catholics, with priests visiting their homes and counted among their closest friends. When Barbara Johnson’s father, Theodore “Dick” Johnson, died in 2008, the funeral was held at St. John Neumann. She and her longtime partner attended together, and Johnson took Communion without incident.


The family clearly loves their Catholic faith. The article is four pages, more than what was posted in msg. #125. There is much more background on the priest's political activism and global connections as well as on Ms. Johnson's family and background. Here are a few more tidbits:


[...]
Finding a fit at church

While Guarnizo was hopscotching around Europe, giving speeches, Johnson was back home in Washington, wrestling with her own Catholicism, which had waxed and waned through her life as she confronted truths about her own sexuality. In the past decade, Johnson had returned to her alma mater, Elizabeth Seton High School in Bladensburg, to teach art, a move she said was part of a process of coming back to Catholicism on her own terms.

But it was also an unsettling time. Her parents were aging and were connected to an unfamiliar church, one they were too infirm to even visit. Johnson and her three siblings, spread around the region, didn’t know the parish, its culture or its members. Nor did they know its pastor, the Rev. Thomas LaHood, who last month compared gay marriage to slavery in a church bulletin.

LaHood has declined to answer questions about St. John Neumann or about Guarnizo’s work there. Archdiocese officials also have refused to explain how a priest so in demand on the world stage wound up in Gaithersburg.

[...]

In speeches to dozens of protesters, the priest [Guarnizo] has referred to LeRoy Carhart, a physician, as “the butcher of Germantown,” equating abortion with the actions of Nazi war criminals. Carhart, in an interview, said he and his staff were afraid of Guarnizo.

“He is the most likely person to push the boundaries in terms of trespassing and harassing women,” Carhart said. “If there is personal space between you and him, he’s invading it. It gives you an intimidating feeling.”

[...]

The vitriol the incident has unleashed online has unnerved Johnson and her family.

She has found some comfort at the grave site of her parents. She has visited them three times in recent weeks. She brings her father a carton of his favorite chocolate milk. She brings her mother yellow flowers, a gift her husband sometimes surprised her with when they were alive.

They are buried side by side in a Montgomery County Catholic cemetery, where they share a single marker that features a rosary at its center. Beside Loetta R. Johnson’s name is a bas-relief figure of the Virgin Mary. Beside Theodore E. Johnson’s name is a bas-relief figure of Jude the Apostle, the patron saint of impossible causes.


Hardly is this a "staged" incident. Just an example of how real people lives are screwed up by sanctimonious religious zealots.


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A couple days ago I saw the above-mentioned article/video of Pastor Dennis Terry introducing Santorum, too (msg. 126). Creeeeeeepy fire-and-brimstone indeed! And today/Friday, of course, I saw/heard the video of the Louisiana woman at the gun firing range suggesting that Santorum should "pretend it's Obama" that he was shooting at. No, not "elites" I guess, those who back Santorum and buy his narrow religious garbage; just nasty ignorant racist people, intolerant types and such. The woman's remark is all the more appalling in light of the Trayvon Martin shooting incident all over the news of late.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 80
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/25/2012 6:17:16 PM

I might add) that in order to be "progressive" one must both hold vague and changing religions, and gay lifestyles. Either wise, were both part of this evil Christianity, and non-progressive.
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OMG...what will I do...I'm both Catholic and progressive....yet, I often think my God is acceptive and forgiving of all God's creatures...not just the one's "some" think should be loved, accepted, or forgiven.

Anyway, Santorum is an evangelical bigot...and not to bright either.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 81
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/25/2012 6:39:54 PM

here we are told (while still being angry with the evil Christians, I might add) that in order to be "progressive" one must both hold vague and changing religions, and gay lifestyles. Either wise, were both part of this evil Christianity, and non-progressive.

That would come as a big surprise to the Reverends JS Woodsworth,Caldwell and Tommy Douglas. Those are the first three leaders of the socialist party here in Canada. Tommy Douglas even introduced socialized medicine whilst premier of Saskatchewan.

It's actually impossible to be both Christian and conservative - at least as conservative is defined in America. Christ's message was all about helping the less fortunate - something that American conservatives want to eliminate from the public sphere. In the rest of the world, being conservative and Christian are completely compatible. But a German, English or Canadian conservative is a socialist by the reckoning of the American right.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 82
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/26/2012 5:14:52 PM
No. They call themselves Christian. But they're not.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 83
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/26/2012 5:25:34 PM
What makes them non-christians is the non-acceptance of all Gods children. To say that gays are an abomination is not indicative of the christian principle...as well as all the other bigoted shyte that the "current christians" are spewing.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 84
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/26/2012 6:01:02 PM
What does the Bible say?


If the almighty wrote the bible then I might believe...and if you've an origional old testament text...and advance degree's in deciphering what was written I might believe...but, dragging up the old testament and the multitude of devient intreptations isn't convincing....and Santorum is a bigot for believing such shyte.

edit to include:


Yes, I do, in fact have a degree in Theology.


And your degree in ancient languages???is non-existant
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 85
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/26/2012 7:14:58 PM

I truly am interested in learning what you believe makes one a follower of Christ.

That would be someone who follows Christ's teachings. You know, comforting prisoners, feeding the hungry, helping the poor, all the stuff that is anathema American conservatism. Again, this only applies to American conservatism - something which has become an extremist, radical dogma more than a coherent political philosophy.
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 86
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/27/2012 4:27:36 AM
Well, Santorum is a failure as a Christian, as a Catholic, and also as a presidential candidate. My guess is that as he sees the inevitable end of his run coming closer and closer he is becoming "shrill", as characterized by the Romney campaign, resorting to hurling cuss words at reporters who question his remarks. That doesn't sound very Christian, does it?


But tell me, what makes them "Not real Christians"?


To begin, the fake Christians who have appropriated the name of Jesus to try to pass on us a counterfeit religion based on ideas derived from an old. Some of those atavistic ideas were clearly rejected by the examples given to us by Jesus while he lived among the humans. If someone wants to call himself/herself a Christian, then that person must clearly accept that when the examples of Jesus are in contradiction with the text of the old testament, then the examples of Jesus supersede the old text. Noboby who rejects the teachings of Jesus can be ever considered a Christian.

The second reason that I have for saying that the fundamentalists, evangelicals, fake-catholics like Santorum, and the whole slew of self-declared Christians who use the name of Jesus to hide their greed and to take advantage of people who don't have the ability to see through the real face of the fast-talking charlatans who use the old bible as a prop in their con.

How in hell can the "Christian" fundamentalists and evangelicals, et al. explain the destructive crusade that they launched against the government of Nicaragua in the 1980's. How can they ever say that they wanted to help the poor people of Nicaragua when they launched a destructive war to overthrow the government that the people had supported? After the end of that war illegally financed by the Reagan administration with the help of the "Christian" fundamentalists, Nicaragua was left poorer than it had been before, struggling for more than 20 years to find a way to help the people to achieve a better standard of living. The clear evidence that the criminal war launched by Reagan and the bunch of fundamentalists headed by Pat Robertson was a failure is that after 20 years of struggling against the poverty rained on Nicaragua by the consequences of the Contra war, the people of Nicaragua elected the same leadership that Reagan and Robertson worked very hard to overthrow. Those were 20 years lost fro the people of Nicaragua. I remember reading about schools closing down because of lack of money to support them during those years.

The self-described "Christians" that participated in that crime against humanity have Nicaraguan blood on their hands.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 87
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/27/2012 9:59:32 PM
Msg. 137:

It's actually impossible to be both Christian and conservative..

Untrue.

You are forgetting about supply side jesus.



Priceless!



Thank you!
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 88
Rick Santorum
Posted: 3/31/2012 6:41:39 AM
One can only hope that Santorum gains more delegates...sending the GOP convention into disarray with a GOP brokered convention all bets are off...these evangelicals might decide to nominate God's self-appointed one...and that would certianly be a swing vote decider for many fence riders....;o)
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 89
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/1/2012 7:27:58 PM

One can only hope that Santorum gains more delegates...sending the GOP convention into disarray


Get real, man! Romney will very likely be the GOP nominee come Nov; especially if he takes wisconsin. He'll have the head of steam that he needs without it coming down to a delegate count; secondly you guys on the far left have to dearly hope that the SCOTUS does not nix Obama care! If so then the GOP is gonna have more fuel to burn Obama with. He'll be catagorized as inept all around (not just on the economic front), unable to even realize his own objective that he ran on in 2008. At this point, his only secure voting base would be blacks, some latinos, and those on the far left! All the moderates and independants will very likely side with Romney, as will the conservatives albeit reluctantly!

You guys got way more to worry about than RS!
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 90
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/5/2012 2:02:46 AM
Oh, dayum! Leave it to James Carville:



James Carville chose these colorful words to describe Rick Santorum after Mitt Romney swept three Republican primaries Tuesday: “He was like a chicken with his head chopped off. The chicken is dead. The only person that don’t know it is the chicken.”

The Democratic strategist, not known to mince his words, said in a late-night interview with CNN that Santorum “can flop around all he wants to [but] they’re not going to nominate him.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74833.html#ixzz1r9efsDkR



....."And while the former Clinton aide didn’t draw any comparisons between a dead animal and Romney...."

 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 91
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Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/10/2012 1:14:45 PM
He has suspeneded his campaign which basicly means in so many words that he is not going to continue to run. I've said it for months now that if you don't have a chance at getting to the magic number of 1144 then there is no point of you continuing to run. He should have dropped out after he lost Ohio.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 92
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Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/10/2012 4:01:04 PM
Yeah, he most likely done. Cain, Perry both first suspended their campaigns and a week later told everyone they were out of the race. He's number 2 with not enough gas to make it to the finish line. There is no mathematical way for him to finish 1st. The more he stays in the more he'll hurt his chances in 2016 if Romney doesn't win prez, because he'll just end up upsetting the base by dragging this GOP election out even further esp if it drags to into Aug which would really help Obama chances at a reelection. He is doing the right thing to pull out of the race for the GOP.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 93
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/10/2012 4:58:13 PM
Dude is GONE!!! Evangelicals spent the weekend trying to talk sense to him for the sake of the party. Polls here in PA have been leaning toward Romney of late. Frothy finally saw reason in that he would've been pounded in his [former] home state on April 24. Stinkin' weasel was waxing all fake emotional and such, wringing the rag over his sick baby, who BTW has been sick since she was born, with lifelong repeated hospitalizations. (Trisomy 18 - Foundation website gives links to abortion providers since there's no hope of avoiding a short and suffering life.) Now punk daddy Ricky wrings the sentimental rag, talking about the 'family decision' and all the praying over the weekend. This dude is despicable!

Nonetheless, I was hoping like h3ll he'd stay in all the way to the convention, making an a$$ of himself and a pain for Romney. Well, it was a fun circus to watch while it lasted!

Next, a gig with FauxNews, no doubt.
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 94
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/11/2012 4:28:38 AM
In a way Santorum's failure restores my faith in the Catholic electorate, not the Catholic hierarchy, but the voters. It is like one big voice screaming: We are Catholics, but we aren't stupid! Most older catholics likely remember when John Kennedy run for president. The evangelicals didn't support him. They tried everything they could do to defeat him just because he was a Catholic.

The common folk can figure out the fake catholics like Santorum and Newt Gingrich, people who have been working in concert with the Catholic hierarchy to push the Catholic voters to the reactionary right wing column.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Catholic church would continue losing more and more followers as a consequence of the extreme right wing political stance the hierarchy has been taking lately.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 95
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/11/2012 10:04:10 AM
Now its time for the lefties to really start worrying!

SCOTUS upcoming decision on Obama care
Lame employment figures going into the summer!
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 96
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/11/2012 2:07:37 PM
Oh yes! We are already shaking, seeing that you have such a mahvelous nominee.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 97
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/11/2012 9:37:25 PM

Oh yes! We are already shaking, seeing that you have such a mahvelous nominee.


MR is not my nominee; nor am I pro- Obama , as both are inept fools(each in his own way) not that much far removed from Gwb. And this is the way the true powers that be (the folks who really run the country) want it.

With the lagging job figures, rise in fuel costs; higher than expected inflation; massive deficit, and the SCOTUS to decide on Obama care. If Obama care is gutted, then the Obama presidency will be on life support. All MR has to do is keep hammering at his failures, and not say or do anything stupid. If so, then the presidency will be his, though it will not be a landslide! PPle will vote for MR for the same reason they voted for Obama in 2008; they'll want "change"!


Since polls show woman will be the deciding vote in the next election,Romney is in trouble!


not if he picks a woman VP, or a man that is liked by the ladies! Image is verything
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 98
Rick Santorum
Posted: 4/12/2012 12:38:21 AM
^^^"not if he picks a woman VP, or a man that is liked by the ladies! Image is verything"

Friend, you give me a good chuckle! $arah was a woman. She had a wonderful way of alienating other women, the ones who use their brains.

"...or a man that is liked by the ladies!" What does this mean? Do all "the ladies" like the same kind of man? Are you referring to physical attractiveness? sex appeal? Really?
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