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 Xmontrealais
Joined: 7/3/2010
Msg: 26
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Buddy where are you coming from??? I have never sent such a message to anyone so why are you inventing this stupid junk and showing your total ignorance?? What I am referring to are men who do .......I am not one of them, never have been never will be.......so on that premise you are a total waste of time and space.
 AddHomonym
Joined: 12/26/2011
Msg: 27
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Posted: 1/22/2012 11:04:42 AM
^^^Reference msgs 1,3,7,12,15,20,25,32 and 35...

The cool thing about the internet is that our words are right here for all of us to see. If at any point someone tries to deny what they've said or switch tactics when they feel like they are "losing", we can simply scroll up and see the truth with our own eyes.

Instead of getting all pissy, maybe you might take the time to actually think about what people are trying to tell you. The underlying message in every single one of your comments is the same. The inherent attitudes are YOURS and you cannot try to deny it.

Good luck with that approach.
 Xmontrealais
Joined: 7/3/2010
Msg: 28
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Posted: 1/22/2012 11:09:21 AM
Well if the onus of personal impulse control is a pile of crap as you said........which I agree with and as you also say this is not a porn site which is also true then there is an implicit sharing of responsibility on "everyone's" account to be mindful of what they are doing. We cannot know just what the cause is if a man sends a rude message.....too many possibilities......but it is safe to say that "sometimes" it can be triggered by the pics or something that is said. And yes sometimes it's just the man himself no matter the pics. But as wild rose so accurately said ......a woman who chooses to use "racy" pics on her profile..........what kind of message is she sending? It is clearly possible that some men will interpret that as being .......you fill in that blank, it is not complicated. Anyways I enjoyed the banter and made my point.
 Truthisee
Joined: 12/7/2010
Msg: 29
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Posted: 1/22/2012 5:05:19 PM
the only question I have is how is women showing their cleavage is any different than guys posing without shirts?

which leads me to believe their bodies are their best asset, and if that is the case well..

*thumbsdown
 Ed Bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 30
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Posted: 1/29/2012 9:13:41 AM
"Class?" Did someone say "Class?" What the heck is that? It's whatever the person who said it thinks it is. Same for "over the top," "Way too far" and "in poor taste."

The rules say no shirtless shots. I'm cool with that. Anything else is what the person wants to show, and how we react is OUR problem, not that of the poster.

ED BEAR
 CharlesP210
Joined: 2/7/2012
Msg: 31
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Posted: 2/10/2012 10:09:57 PM
Okay, I've had a bellyful of this double standard, and it's time to hit the nail on the head!
Ladies, why do you dress in a provocative manner? Answer: to attract men! Period!
You dress up in outfits that show a bit of cleavage because you WANT to be noticed! You wear miniskirts because you WANT men to have a sexual attraction to you and to desire you.
Don't try to say anything else is the reason, because to do so is pure B.S.!
Do men have a right to take notice and assume that you are trying to attract them? HELL YES! Because that's exactly what you ARE doing!
The argument of " well she wanted my attention because she dressed so damned sexy" is a valid one. I'll say it again... it IS a valid one!
All this crap about women crying sexual harassment or unwanted attention is pure horse manure! If you didn't want the attention, then why dress in a manner that you KNOW will bring it about?
Personally, I like seeing a bit of cleavage ( all heterosexual men do), but I don't make rude comments because of it.
Hey, if you don't like someone window shopping then don't set out the display!
 gcdeb
Joined: 4/25/2011
Msg: 32
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Posted: 2/11/2012 1:44:32 AM

The argument of " well she wanted my attention because she dressed so damned sexy" is a valid one. I'll say it again... it IS a valid one!


Of course it is. All the modern rape and sexual assault laws clearly provide for this valid excuse. In fact, I read recently that midriff tops, fishnet stockings, and high heels are all going to be banned and any company that produces or sells them will face criminal charges for inciting sexual aggression.

Do you realise how arrogant you sound when you spout forth your view that women dress to attract men? What makes you think you have ANY insight into why women do what they do?
 HaloKitty
Joined: 2/1/2011
Msg: 33
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Posted: 2/11/2012 2:27:42 AM
Besides, what is sexy?

To some, maybe wearing a tank top is "dressing sexy" while to others, it's a tight skirt, nice stockings, silk blouse, etc.

I think it's a man very full of himself to assume that women dress specifically -for them-; all women, not just the very obvious ones.

I could say something else about profile pictures, but I won't. I'll be nice.
 gcdeb
Joined: 4/25/2011
Msg: 34
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Posted: 2/11/2012 2:41:07 AM

I could say something else about profile pictures, but I won't. I'll be nice.


Well spotted HK.
 WesternWildRose
Joined: 9/15/2008
Msg: 35
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Posted: 2/11/2012 10:30:50 AM
For the record: I dress sexy for myself, not to attract men (or women).

My observation based on experience and reading the posts here:

** Women who display a smogasboard of boobs ~ will have men drooling.
** I walk past a Beligum chocolate shop ~ I drool.

^^^^ are either actions wrong? illegal? offensive? ^^^^^

I am not making excuses for the reaction, the behaviour, I am just saying very predictable reaction.
 frenchcanadian
Joined: 11/12/2011
Msg: 36
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Posted: 2/19/2012 9:39:04 AM
I can't beleive how stupid this is!! what if we where all naked? what would you be looking at? the guy that stares at a womens cleavage is fantasizing on how the breast look, this is stupid and childish, it's not about cleavage, it's about how sexualy frustrated men are, why don't you ask an x-ray technician that does mamograms all day long how he feels about cleavage? stupid, stupid, stupid.
 pescando
Joined: 9/26/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 2/19/2012 1:52:35 PM
Attraction to the opposite sex is fundamentally and biologically different for men and women. Men are alot more turned-on by the visual aspects of a woman and all the tools they use to enhance this sexual vision, not only cleavage but makeup, tight pants, hair etc etc. Thats why they do it, It works really well! Duh!

The male sex is just hard wired that way, not to say that women aren’t attracted to the visual also, Im generalizing here but, I think, the female sex has a more balanced biological turn-on mechanisms. For a woman it’s not only the visual but the personality and the future prospects of a potential male suitor that sweeps her off her feet.

And so now we come to what this whole debate is about RESPONSIBILITY another way to understand it can be: The ability to respond. If your response is not getting you a positive result HELLO! Wake up call!

If a man is attracted visually he has to say the right thing in order for a positive response. The man has to be proactive and "in control" If he does otherwise there could be some deep seated (mommy) issues around women that he should get help for. The responsibility for women lies in the realization of the fact that not every man out there is well-adjusted psychologically and will get a certain percentage of responses that are offensive and demeaning.

Dressing appropriately to attract the type of man a woman wants is a sign of self-esteem. Dressing slutty to attract everyman and anyman has its own deep seated (daddy) issues that should be looked at in a new perspective. If you’re not getting positive results HELLO! Wake up call!
 Handyman_54
Joined: 3/4/2009
Msg: 38
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Posted: 2/20/2012 5:06:10 PM
If you had ever looked you would know it is not permitted for men to post pictures with no shirt.
 Handyman_54
Joined: 3/4/2009
Msg: 39
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Posted: 2/20/2012 5:12:39 PM
Actually "bare torso" pictures are also a no no here but unless someone reports a photo that is "inappropriate" they stay.
 Pamerella
Joined: 1/7/2012
Msg: 40
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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:24:05 PM
Ok... I KNOW this topic is WAY over done so I shouldn't even comment but this woman's response is just TOO ridiculous to ignore.
I am a woman. I have breasts... great breasts in fact.... feel free to browse my profile and not fine ONE cleavage pic. Since I am a woman I also have woman friends and I know the pics we are referring to. There is a BIG difference between a picture of a woman with large breasts wearing a v-neck and having some cleavage and a chick in a push up bra pulling her v-neck way down, bending over a bit and taking a pic which shows mostly boob and only part of her face.
I'm pretty sure that I understood the question to be more about the latter scenario. Point blank, girls who post the latter pic (especially on a dating/hook up site) want men to pay attention to them because of their breasts. Yes, they are literally asking for that type of attention i.e. comments about how hot they are and likely, surprise surprise, comments about their breasts.
I have to say to the women who took this of the extreme of comparing showing your tits on a DATING/HOOK UP SITE and getting comments about boobs to justifying rape... that comment was over the top and disgusted me a little. Shame on you lady. Rape is a serious thing and should not be thrown around out of context to prove a cat fight you wanna have in a chat room. It is the equivalent to people who throw around comparisons to the hollocaust. Showing your boobs and getting some eyes or rude comments on a website is not the same as having sex forced on you so shame on YOU for undermining the subject this way. Before you point fingers at men for acting like apes you should perhaps look in the mirror and identify where you are a bit of a drama junkie.
Men with decency will not make boob comments to a stranger just because he can see a little cleavage. Women with taste will not post up close "look at my titties" pics online for attention. The men who make these comments should expect to be called pigs and the women who post these pics should expect comments about their tits. Wow, debate solved.
 earthboundangel67
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 41
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Posted: 2/20/2012 9:12:34 PM
I always say, to each their own....life is too short to waste! I have one of my pics up as a bit of a spoof considering it is pof & I have been going to the lake since I was a young girl....imagine that, I have cleavage now! It is at a lake, on the dock, with it being about 100 degrees out...and I always use sunscreen! As others have mentioned, there are a lot more things to check out online with way more exposure so to speak...I also like those male profiles with their shirts off, and will often send an email thanking them for the eye candy! Not in a rude or demeaning way, just simply stating a fact. I dont mind if others do the same to me, so long as they arent rude about it. I know I am far from a swimsuit model, but I like the pic I have , and am very happy with who I am. I also know who & what I am about...and it was not a posed picture .... was simply enjoying the day with my family & friends & someone caught that!
 THEKidWicked
Joined: 8/9/2010
Msg: 42
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Posted: 2/21/2012 8:45:53 PM

I have breasts... great breasts in fact.... feel free to browse my profile and not fine ONE cleavage pic.

talk is cheap. pics or it's nonadmissible in the court of public opinion.


There is a BIG difference between a picture of a woman with large breasts wearing a v-neck and having some cleavage and a chick in a push up bra pulling her v-neck way down, bending over a bit and taking a pic which shows mostly boob and only part of her face.

and........what would that difference be?? both types of women are doing the same thing. using their funbags to attract men.

Yes, they are literally asking for that type of attention i.e. comments about how hot they are and likely, surprise surprise, comments about their breasts.

i've yet to find a woman that didn't want to be told she looks attractive.


Men with decency will not make boob comments to a stranger just because he can see a little cleavage.

why wouldn't we? can a tasteful comment not be made about a tasteful pic? i think you're painting all men actions with the same brush.


The men who make these comments should expect to be called pigs

so.....if i say,"your dress really brings out the color of your eyes and the symmetry of your breasts"......that makes me a pig?

i'm somewhat offended by that.


k.w.
more of a feral hog.
 Pamerella
Joined: 1/7/2012
Msg: 43
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Posted: 2/21/2012 11:22:04 PM
See this is why you shouldn't bother posting on these things... stuff gets taken out of context and over exaggerated.
Yes, there is a difference between simply having breasts and trying to flaunt them.
No, not all women are out seeking flattery from strange men online.
I think we all understand that we are talking about crude comments. Sending a message saying "you are really pretty" and "woah you have great tits" are in fact 2 different things. I didn't paint all actions with one brush, I was assuming we all understood the distinction.
If you send me an intro email that says "hey, saw your pic and I think you're pretty" expect a nice response. If you send an intro email that says "nice tits wanna ****?" I'll likely not waist my time responding but before I hit delete I will (and have) thought "pig" and "as if".
Don't over think it or pick it apart bud, it's just on online forum.
 TKO38
Joined: 3/6/2012
Msg: 44
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Posted: 3/21/2012 7:31:00 AM
The responsibility lies with both people.
If I dont want men and some women, to comment on my chest, I make a huge effort to not show alot of cleavage. While I dont think that what a person wears dictates that they are asking to get raped. I also feel that there is a thin line between looking beautiful/sexy, or looking like a tramp.

Of course you can post any pics you want (obviously within the confines of the rules on sites) . But you also cant be shocked when someone comments on how 'cold' it seems to be in your house. Sorry, but so many women complain about men being perverted or their minds are only on sex.

If you show 3/4 of your breasts in your pics what did you expect the reaction to be? Most women dont walk around with their breasts hanging out of their bras/shirts. There are a few women Im friends with who I am positive would react the same way to a pic of the mens laps in various stages of reveal.

It also matters what your 'looking for' selection is. If youre here looking for intimate encounters, then show what you can, if not, then move the focus away from your breasts.
 nyster
Joined: 2/5/2012
Msg: 45
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Posted: 3/21/2012 9:09:39 AM
Haha …what a load. You can't see the truth because of an underlying social sense of entitlement created by our culture. You can't even be objective.
 TKO38
Joined: 3/6/2012
Msg: 46
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:23:26 PM
peoples opinions are because of an underlying social sense of entitlement created by culture? I think everyone is being objective.
 WesternWildRose
Joined: 9/15/2008
Msg: 47
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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:10:03 PM
Everyone loves boobs.... nuff said.
 forsaken_
Joined: 7/17/2011
Msg: 48
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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:36:58 PM
Doesn't bother me, I can apreciate a nice pair although it does come off as something someone with low selfasteem would do. If you need to show off your boobs to attract a guy you're only hindering yourself by attracting the wrong guys as it doesn't have any bearing on you as a person just the body you live in.
 sentback
Joined: 12/22/2010
Msg: 49
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Posted: 4/3/2012 2:29:31 PM
I like looking at a womans CLEAVAGE. Especially when she has NO respect for herself looking like a SLUT.. the WOMAN KNOWS what she is doing. !!!!!!!! But I myself would NOT be rude and STARE. I give her RESPECT even though she DOES NOT respect herself in dressing like that. as I always SAID Women in general want to DRESS and look like a prostitute, they dont WANT to be a prostitute but they like dressing like one. I LAUGH to myself when I see married women wearing SHORT SHORT skirts.. WHY??? their husbands KNOW whats under that skirt. WHY do women want the WORLD to know whats under there. It puzzles me to this very day???
 THEKidWicked
Joined: 8/9/2010
Msg: 50
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:17:40 PM
there's NOTHING wrong WITH a WOMAN that HAS the CONFIDENCE to EXPRESS her SEXUALITY.

what ever happened to DODGEdakotaCOUNTRY?

k.w.
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