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 Trianon123
Joined: 12/1/2011
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I dont think its quite that simple Tonto - Im now in my third house in 20 yrs on the outskirts of Rochdale and yet again Ive discovered that only whites are welcome - the last place, any people of ethnic background who had the bottle to move is were soon made to feel victimised and totally unwelcome. I know people of many ethnicities but I truly worry about some of my friends visiting, you can see the curtain twitchers getting bloody anxious - xenophobia rules.......
 Ant2312
Joined: 1/24/2012
Msg: 20
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:27:51 AM

xenophobia rules


well don't blame the locals, hardly their fault
 Ant2312
Joined: 1/24/2012
Msg: 21
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:28:44 AM
Most people think its wonderful


'most'

so because you think it is, then most of the country do

lol, I repeat, lol
 Ant2312
Joined: 1/24/2012
Msg: 22
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:33:56 AM
jesus, don't use the indigenous word, you'll get the generic lectures about Britain being made up of invaders etc yawarama
 zendy
Joined: 8/30/2008
Msg: 25
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Posted: 3/3/2012 3:12:41 AM
The age old question "whats does it mean to be British?". Sometimes I wonder if anyone knows the answer. I dont think multiculturalism is the problem,I think its integration. There's a Jewish neighbourhood close to where I live called Stamford hill. There are kids and even adults born in Stamford hill who dont speak a word of English,only Hewbrew. There are many Asians born in Whitechapel,east London who dont speak any English. Now how is it possible that someone is born and raised in England but know no English? Integration has a long way to go.
 up4meets
Joined: 1/9/2012
Msg: 26
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Posted: 3/3/2012 3:12:44 AM
East is East and West is West.

That's the way it is.
 yorkslass
Joined: 4/30/2007
Msg: 27
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Posted: 3/3/2012 3:56:07 AM
well i dont think asians like to intergrate with british and thats where the problems lie, they hve their own schools etc, if they are going to come live in the uk they shd integrate more
 xgillybx
Joined: 11/24/2011
Msg: 28
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Posted: 3/3/2012 6:12:52 AM
.......................

Edited to say - sorry, I didn't see the show so am not really able to comment on the original thread.
 Cinderfreakinella
Joined: 2/13/2011
Msg: 29
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Posted: 3/3/2012 6:33:33 AM
I haven't watched the programme yet, I have recorded it.

To the poster that comments about ethnic minorities living in huddles of grouping what do you think ex-pats from Britain do when they migrate to live in Oz or Spain?

It's natural to stick with 'your own', it's what you know, people are like-minded...whilst reaping the benefits of the chosen country to inhabit.
 Tuskadero
Joined: 1/25/2012
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Posted: 3/3/2012 7:00:56 AM
Isn't it hilarious when people talk about "being British" then obliviously talk about "Englishness" .......as "British"

I just failed the UK Citizenship test..: ))

Probably because I did'nt know what the churches of England were called............why should I?? I'm not a member of any English church!

http://www.ukcitizenshiptest.co.uk/
 up4meets
Joined: 1/9/2012
Msg: 31
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Posted: 3/3/2012 7:18:54 AM

It's natural to stick with 'your own', it's what you know, people are like-minded...whilst reaping the benefits of the chosen country to inhabit.


I will add that in other countrys the laws of the host country are obeyed without trying to change them to suit the minority.
 dwight_the
Joined: 7/4/2010
Msg: 32
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Posted: 3/3/2012 7:49:26 AM
You will not find anyone born in the UK who don't speak English.Not because you hear them communicating in another language means they don't speak English.
 ~Hams~
Joined: 9/18/2008
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Posted: 3/3/2012 7:53:45 AM


How 'Tolerant' would the ethnic inner city communities be if you walked around their No Go areas alone at night anywhere in the UK if you are not one of them.
I would be interested in your findings.


There is no such thing as a no go area anywhere in this country as far as I'm concerned.
I have been everywhere in London at all times of the day and night and I'm still here to tell the tale.
I have friends of all races and religions and in all parts of the UK and don't see anything odd about it.

I look forward to the second episode of the series next week to see how the group on the show manage when they live each others lives.
 zendy
Joined: 8/30/2008
Msg: 34
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Posted: 3/3/2012 9:50:05 AM

You will not find anyone born in the UK who don't speak English.Not because you hear them communicating in another language means they don't speak English


Trust me there are a lot of people born in the UK who only speak the language of their parents. Its hard to believe but I have met them. I also know a Pakistani woman who has been here 45 years but its still her Grand kids who translate English to Urdu for her.
 Pete_83_Reading
Joined: 11/8/2009
Msg: 35
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Posted: 3/3/2012 9:52:40 AM
I am not entirely convinced on the point of they all can speak English, they can all communicate using the English language but many have very poor English in reality.
Also I know this is awful to think but I know a number of people have commented to me that they believe people from some other countries, typically asians nations not to be such good drivers. They have largely come to this conclusion through observation in their opinion but maybe thats racism, they class it as observations.
 daspecimen
Joined: 11/24/2011
Msg: 36
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Posted: 3/3/2012 10:21:56 AM
recorded it and am watching it now. pretty interesting
 dwight_the
Joined: 7/4/2010
Msg: 37
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Posted: 3/3/2012 10:44:35 AM
Well my children goes to school with mostly Asians and Somalians ,they All speak English ,all,from nursery.
 Tuskadero
Joined: 1/25/2012
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Posted: 3/3/2012 11:40:35 AM
Dont forget, for many non-English, English is a second language for some of the British indigenous population.
 Strider886
Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 3/3/2012 2:25:56 PM
I just want to see an England where the law applies equally to all, regardless of colour or religion. Where all men are treated equal...... I'm sick of the race card, I'm sick of the authorities fear of being labelled racist. If you break the law, you should be punished.
 HuggableHarry
Joined: 4/4/2011
Msg: 40
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Posted: 3/8/2012 1:56:28 PM

i liked the point that was made that kids dont have any problems playing with each other no matter what the colour and its true they dont as they just see another play mate and thats really how we adults should be but we are nothing like it



Problem will start to disappear when the Natives stop moving every time they find someone different move into their neighbour hood.

 Strider886
Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 3/9/2012 1:27:15 AM
The thick bloke int pub, he was well out of order, what a tw4t...... Everybody has their own individuality, some less so than others, but to discriminate because someone wears different clothes? We should all wear exactly the same stuff? Ridiculous......
 monobloke
Joined: 3/5/2012
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Posted: 3/9/2012 4:50:56 AM
Mohammmed was having none of it and left with his views unchanged and probably hardened. I would have liked to have seen the young asian girl take Mohammed to task in front of the group about his traditional muslim attitudes towards women. He would have bailed out sooner.I am sure many of the group would have backed her up.

The one who impressed me most was Damon when he said that many muslim traditions are not a world away from those of his grandparents. I too detest the antics of the drunken prats that do 'Britishness' no favours at all and in that Mohammed has (imo) a fair point.


Ethnic groups are colonising the inner city areas and white people are moving out. Those who cannot afford to move are the ones left behind to be confronted with the 'In your face clash of cultures.

This show,for all it's doctoring, did not convince me that Multiculturism can work in the future when there are opposite types of people like that culturally racist bloke and his wife in the pub and the Mohammed types who aren't going to change their ways or integrate with other cultures - Ever.
The reality is that integration isn't happening as each side 'Digs In' to resist change.
 Strider886
Joined: 3/28/2006
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Posted: 3/9/2012 5:32:30 AM

@msg 47

I did laugh at that.

Is there a traditional British style of dressing? I used have missed that.

It was quite amusing when he tried asking out that that Asian girl should wear miniskirts and low cut tops if she wanted to fit in.


Well.... I was wondering why the fat "English" cow wasn't wearing a mini-skirt and low cut top, she looked more like a bloke!!


The old chap reminded me of my stepfather, not inherently racist, but has no clue how to interact with people, other than by making inflammatory remarks because he thinks everyone will just find it funny. I suppose it's TV comedy/humour from back in his day.......

My stepfather was a big shot company director, the sort who make unfunny jokes and have 100 ass kissers pretending they're funny. So these days in retirement, when he does the same, he generally upsets people..... We have to keep an eye on him and make sure people understand he's just trying to be funny.
 Waynie_Vunderba
Joined: 11/20/2011
Msg: 46
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Posted: 3/9/2012 9:04:27 AM
The big slob of lard in the Pub really annoyed me. [The fat caucasian guy giving that young lass abuse.]

How about get off your massively obese lard ass, get a job and get in shape you fat 1960s throwaway of embarrassing attitudes. I sometimes forget his type still lurk in inner city boozers. Cringe worthy viewing.
 ~Hams~
Joined: 9/18/2008
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Posted: 3/9/2012 10:54:57 AM
I was also disappointed when Mohamed ran off and didn't complete the show.
I don't know why he got so upset about having to do the dishes and answer some questions?

That disgusting white man in the pub is lucky he wasn't slapped for putting his hand on
the young Muslim girls leg and clearly had no idea at all about what it means to be British.

I also thought that Damon did very well and was pleased to see how welcome he was made at the mosque.
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