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 yolois
Joined: 8/25/2010
Msg: 826
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You know what... I really am beginning to think that this is no longer privately owned. That's what happened to Hot or Not when it got sold off. It had been just 5 bux /month for years until that happened, then suddenly it jumped to 20 bux a month. Then Myspace... it was sold off, and while it took a couple years, it was eventually "improved", making it full of laggy embedded features, a weird layout, and visually confusing. Then Facebook took all the Myspace peeps because Facebook was SIMPLE, no-frills, and not visually confusing. Only it was also sold off, and now we're seeing this transition to the "timeline" crap, which is just "we're trying to improve for the sake of improving, not for the need to" and it's a case of "hey guys, less is MORE".

Now POF. Next they will monkey around with the layout, start adding fancy borders and graphics, and make it more of a pain in the ass to move around the website. While charging you for it :P

Like I said, I smell corporate boardroom idiocy, not sole proprietorship.
 dee714
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 827
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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:22:23 AM
Wow first I'll tell you that whomever wrote why you are implementing it, better go back to school and learn how to spell!!
Honestly I think its a bad move to charge for who viewed me, and as someone else said its greedy!! I honestly am out of work and think its something I would be very surprised if many go for. You have advertising all over he site.
I hope you will reconsider this. I was on here yesterday and was never even given a warning.
 FreakFLSTC
Joined: 9/29/2011
Msg: 828
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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:44:22 AM
Wait, what? Is there any evidence that this is the case that you can provide or can anyone corroborate that? (I'd message directly to ask, but message settings prevent me from doing that.)


Obviously the moderator thinks I'm wrong, but then again, POF has never admitted to having fake profiles, auto generated messages, etc.

I first discovered it one evening while viewing user profiles, then I noticed, that eveyone I had viewed, was viewing me. I double checked the setting, turned it on/off, logged back in,etc. Same result. Taking chance out of the equation, I started viewing profiles from different states, with the same result. One step further, I tried viewing people I know on POF, and they could see that I had viewed them (yes, I had not viewed their profiles previously). So they can say whatever they want, but in my case, it stopped working.



Above all, "the moderator" is a member and has been one for many years.

That being said, I guess there are 2 possibilities
1. user error
2. the feature works for everyone else but for some reason not for you

More likely than not this type of "error" happens when users forget to save their settings properly.

Rest assured this feature does function properly.


 CarterScott21257
Joined: 5/7/2011
Msg: 829
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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:53:01 AM
The "who viewed me" was a valuable tool to see who you should respond to. I for one would gladly trade the "my matches" for the "viewed me" feature. The latter is a far better indicator of who may be interested in talking to you. Thanks.
 musicman1257
Joined: 9/12/2010
Msg: 830
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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:53:44 AM
I have been a POF member for several years and truly believe this is a HUGE mistake by them. Their are things that separate POF from the other sites...being free and being a quality site typically don't go hand in hand but, they pulled it off. Until now...BAD MOVE, GUYS
 fall_blossom
Joined: 12/19/2011
Msg: 831
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:00:52 PM
who viewed me - is not a good feature anyway... looking does not mean interest.
I am not going to read all the posts, but I 100% agree with this and don't care who viewed me.

Lots of people are on stealth mode anyhow.
 Ed Bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 832
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:15:58 PM
Everyone who deletes their profile provides this:

1. Less wear and tear on the system and servers
2. A user base more skewed toward people willing to pay for dating (and I AGREE that's hooking!)
3. Less cheapskates for marketers to waste time on

The only loss is in the number of users new users get to choose from. But they get a wealthier, more free-spending field to graze.

Markus has his girlfriend and his tavel plans, and if he once was passionate about PoF that's worn off with time and an endless procession of whiny losers asking why their message didn't get a reply.

Seek passion elsewhere. Nobody will miss anyone who does. Markus has NEVER read user mail.
ED BEAR
 luckytossofthedice
Joined: 6/28/2010
Msg: 833
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:16:06 PM
So POF took off the "viewed me" feature ? BIG mistake. I am also on OK cupid ( which is also free ) I normally use Plenty of Fish more often, but since you have taken away this feature, I will not be visiting POF daily as I used to, but only when I get a message. I hate to say it, but Plenty Of Fish shot it's self in the foot.
 ctiffer
Joined: 9/22/2011
Msg: 834
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:28:07 PM
It is appreciated that someone has taken the time to respond to a possible issue. I'm just some random user and have not in my experience observed the "viewed me" feature exhibiting the behaviour that has been described by "FreakFLSTC". That said, at least from his description of the problem and his attempts to test it out, if he is being honest, it seems like there *might* be an issue.

I don't give two shits about the paid/unpaid viewed me issue that started this thread. I personally don't really care if people have seen I've viewed them or not.

Your possibility #1, user error, does immediately come to mind. It is quite possible he set his profile up wrong. That said, from his response, he seems to have done due diligence to make sure that wasn't the case. So he is either knowledgeable about most of the site but missed one crucial item or he is lying. I have no idea which is the truth.

Possibility #2 is far more alarming. I am a programmer and a computer science student. Specifically, my focus is computer security which is why his post immediately raised so many alarm bells for me due to the possible privacy violations. It is literally impossible that such an error would target just him specifically unless it was intentional. That said, it means that if there is an error, it just targets a small subset of users and has gone previously unnoticed or ignored. If that is the case, it needs to be fixed, because even just a few users' privacy being violated is not acceptable.



Did you really think option 2 was possible. As you state it is literally impossible that such an error would target just one user. If this was an actual issue, there would be other users reporting it in the help forum. Bottom line, this feature has been tested, and yes by myself and other moderators as well as by the POF programers and works fine but unfortunately there will always be the occasional user that suffers from "user error" and as a result will pass around false information. That being said, let's stay on topic please. The topic of this thread is the new changes to the viewed me option.




I have no idea what the truth is here. I don't know the guy suggesting the 'feature' didn't work nor do I know the moderator. I have no way to know if anyone is telling the truth here or not. All I know is that if what he is saying is indeed true, it is a serious trust and privacy issue. I just hope this will be looked into and decided definitively one way or another. Simply suggesting it might be user error or an error with just his account is not enough in my opinion.
 justafeeling4u
Joined: 9/15/2010
Msg: 835
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:28:11 PM
It sucks honestly.I would like to know if someone has viewed my profile and sometimes its a good idea as to how often someone has.And if they are interested. thsi is supposed to be a FREE site..the Advertisements weren't bothering me as all its not like they were popping up on the screen obscuring everything..VERY VERY VERY bad move on POF's side for doing this.
 KnightNChrome
Joined: 10/28/2010
Msg: 836
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:36:26 PM
If Im going to PAY for a site...its going to be for a better site than THIS!!!! My "matches" never match my interests...at least with the access to see who has viewed me, there was an initial interest from them for them to have clicked on my profile...even if it WAS only based on physical appearance...thats SOMETHING!

Other pay sites use SOME sort of formula in pairing people up with "matches" that may interest them.
 psmith1908
Joined: 1/26/2012
Msg: 837
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Posted: 3/14/2012 12:42:58 PM
Unbelievable...first sent messages now profile views. So much for a 100% free site :(

I'm heading to or accentudate
 Modestan1234
Joined: 2/21/2012
Msg: 838
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:10:08 PM
I do appreciate all the free access I have had to viewed me up to this point.

I will not pay for this feature and my time onsite will fall off big time, no doubt.

It was a good ride thanks, pof.
 ng15bloke
Joined: 6/20/2005
Msg: 839
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:10:15 PM
A terrilbe terrible idea. POF change your mind about this. I came to this site because it was free. I will be leaving if you continue to make charges. I am giving you to the end of the month.
 marshfieldmale
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 840
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:18:20 PM
One good thing about this change....

I likely won't be getting any more emails from females upset because I've viewed their profile.
 Modestan1234
Joined: 2/21/2012
Msg: 841
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:25:00 PM
I have seen a couple comments regarding grabbing all your contacts and moving them to another site.

That is probably the best thing you can do to fight back, steal their people and move em to another site!

It's OBV there's another FREE site out there with way better features and more fun, just not the same size user base, YET!!
 badenuff69
Joined: 1/28/2011
Msg: 842
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:25:18 PM
If no one buys the upgrade they will lose money, Im sure alot of people have left the site already or will be soon. Their advertisers are probably not happy, I suggest that you put DONT BUY THE UPGRADE in the headline space, if it catches on and everytime an admin or mod look they will see truly just how many people are pissed, not sure if they give a $#@T but they will care if they lose money...I miss viewed me, kinda gives you some sort of hope :)
 reprocessed
Joined: 2/26/2012
Msg: 843
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:25:58 PM
I will give this a few days and then I'm outta here.
 ng15bloke
Joined: 6/20/2005
Msg: 844
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:31:26 PM
I suggest that you put DONT BUY THE UPGRADE in the headline space,

done...now everyone do it....
 All4Fun50
Joined: 1/21/2010
Msg: 845
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:39:30 PM
I can't believe this will help attract "new user", and/or "not attract "new Advertisers"
I have enjoyed POF up until this money maneuver but now I am finding new sites.
BAD Business !!!!
 Thorrin
Joined: 10/13/2009
Msg: 846
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:41:09 PM
It's a safe bet that this site is entering a self destructive faze of operation. Having to pay for every push of a button or being restricted from information that was once a free service is a sure fire way of destroying any online company. Just take a good look at ALL the Negative responses. Advertisers also look at these things before deciding if it's worth the money to advertise with this site. Who ever made this decision to place this function as Premium knows nothing about running a site. What they know is just numbers. If you want to have your accountant run the show, you might as well shut down now. If you grow tired of doing your job, you might as well shut down now. If this site was sold to someone else and that person is looking to rip people off... You might as well shut down now to save yourself from a slide into total destruction. Simple fact of the matter is that people aren't happy with this move and they're willing to dump this site. So it boils down to a loose/loose for POF. If you want MORE, then you give More. You don't take away and expect More... That's just Stupid. That'll turn POF into POS in no time flat. Those with negative responses will be the first to leave this site. Ask your accountant how he's going to present this information as a selling point to potential advertisers. He/She can't... So POF went from this javascript:smilie(''), to this javascript:smilie('') and ended up with javascript:smilie(''), javascript:smilie(''), javascript:smilie('') and . Soon POF will be this javascript:smilie('') , this javascript:smilie(''), this javascript:smilie('') and then this javascript:smilie(''). So go ahead and ignore us and the complaints from those who Made what POF is today... Your loss. People like to see the Greedy fail miserably. We'll be all like this javascript:smilie('') when it happens. One last thing, this is for you. javascript:smilie('').
 cpn1337
Joined: 2/5/2012
Msg: 847
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:42:10 PM
yeah if you have POF on your phone, you can see who viewed you still lol
 korartiz
Joined: 7/24/2011
Msg: 848
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:56:21 PM
It would be cool to get a word from the head honcho on why the decision was made.
Even if they just elaborate on the "getting rid of the ads," claim.
 Silent Steel
Joined: 2/18/2009
Msg: 849
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:56:39 PM
As I see it, everyone has three options....put up, shut up, or leave.

Lets examine those options further.......shall we?

PUT UP: You could decide to put up what ever money that POF is charging, but what does that get you? You get the privilege to stalk your own in box to see if your message was read or not. You get a big ol stupid yellow dot icon on your profile. You get to see who the "hottest girls" are, as if all of our definitions of that phrase are the same. You can send a picture of a fvcking steak with your message. You can have a few more background photos for your profile. You have zero customer service in case you are having problems. You now will know who viewed your profile and wasnt impressed enough to contact you. And the only way you know this is by a banner that says "Get a upgraded membership", when it should say "Get an ungraded membership, when you click on the "viewed me" link. You gotta ask yourself....is all of that worth any money to you? Some will say yes, and some will say hell no!

SHUT UP: When its all said and done, this is Markus's site, and he can do what ever he wants to do with it. All the pissing and moaning from the cheap seats isnt gonna change a damn thing. There are still plenty of free things going on to help you find what ever you are looking for. Put your big boy/girl pants back on, wipe your tears, and get back to work finding that special person.

LEAVE: If you dont like the score of the game, go somewhere else. If all of these other sites are so fvcking great, go there without hesitation, and thanks for stopping by!

You could complain in one hand and sh1t in the other and see which one fills faster. Or you could just make a decision and go with it.
 DJsHeart
Joined: 1/18/2012
Msg: 850
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Posted: 3/14/2012 1:58:47 PM
I'm not sure that the viewed me feature will really cause too much of a problem if one's intentions are really to find someone compatible. Someone viewing you does not mean they are interested. Just means they wanted a better look at the very small thumbnail :)

Markus has a blog that some of you might be interested in, that could explain the changes, and why users leaving won't really impact his dating site(s).
http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/

I do agree that taking away features from current users isn't very loyal to the ones that have used this site and been loyal to POF. This is the only site I use, and don't really want to run around creating profiles on all these other sites out there.

A better way to have done this, would of been to let the current users have the features they already have, and change the features for new users signing up. Eventually as people leave and new ones come, the site would be changed over without all the uproar and negativity that is now directed at POF.
The people here that think it was not a good business move (and maybe it wasn't) are reacting out of emotion. Markus is coming from a marketing & business decision. Calling him names and threatening him are not likely to make a difference.

Just sayin.....

For me, the site still works, and while I did use that feature - I agree, it was more of an ego stroke than anything else. Site still works where I can message someone if I want to and receive messages for free, and read profiles. The changes haven't effected my intentions for the site ;)

Good luck to all
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