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 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 351
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The "war on women" is a failed attempt of the left to remove the eyes of the public off the real problems the current President has created or ignored.

Yes so true, because if anyone knows the only real wars are:

The War on Easter, Christmas, Hanukkah, fossil fuels, potatoes, food, salt, fall holidays, and conservative women are all very real things and should be taken seriously .



The Battle for the War on Women
While multiple states roll back the equal pay and health rights that women have come to enjoy, Fox News relegates the "war on women" to the rank of "phony" political fight.
Monday April 16, 2012

USA Link: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-april-16-2012/the-battle-for-the-war-on-women

Can Link: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/full-episodes/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart---april-16-2012/#clip659830
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 352
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:07:17 AM
Arizona bans funding to Planned Parenthood in abortion fight
David Schwartz Reuters
2:23 a.m. CDT, May 5, 2012

PHOENIX (Reuters) - Arizona Governor Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill banning abortion providers like Planned Parenthood from receiving money through the state, her office said in a statement.

The Republican-backed Whole Woman's Health Funding Priority Act cuts off funding for family planning and health services delivered by Planned Parenthood clinics and other organizations offering abortions.

Read more at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sns-rt-us-usa-abortion-arizonabre84402y-20120504,0,7934427.story



So now Arizona taxpayers won't pay for prenatal care or abortion, but when those unwanted children whose mothers had no support grow up to be criminals, Arizona taxpayers will pay for them to go to prison.

Which is just how Jesus would have wanted it.


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GOP's Violence Against Women Act Would Open Up Undocumented Victims To More Abuse
Posted: 05/04/2012 2:49 pm Updated: 05/05/2012 8:25 am

WASHINGTON -- The House Republican version of the new Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) would dramatically roll back confidentiality protections for abused immigrant women, make it more difficult for undocumented witnesses to work with law enforcement officials, and eliminate a pathway to citizenship for witnesses who cooperate with police on criminal cases.

The provisions are tucked into a bill that reauthorizes the act, and have received scant media attention. But the legislation is picking up steam in the House. The bill, officially sponsored by freshman Rep. Sandy Adams (R-Fla.), has the backing of the full House leadership, and is headed for a vote in the Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

Reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act is typically a bipartisan affair lacking in contention. This year, however, Republicans are pressing for significant changes that would weaken protections for victims of domestic violence, arguing that the current law is being taken advantage of by undocumented immigrants looking for legal citizenship.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/04/violence-against-women-act-gop-undocumented-abuse_n_1478125.html
 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:26:27 AM
yes but just think of all the profits the new corporate owned jails will make!!
I am sur Jesus is all for that too!
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 5/5/2012 11:33:51 AM
Feminists line up against football veil ruling

Iran's women's team last year forfeited a 2012 Olympic qualifier because players wouldn't play without wearing hijabs.
http://www.thelocal.fr/2892/20120320/

As many as 100,000 women in Britain have undergone female genital mutilations (FGM) with medics in the UK offering to carry out the illegal procedure on girls as young as 10, it has been reported.

Investigators from the Sunday Times said they had secretly filmed a doctor, dentist and alternative medicine practitioner who were allegedly willing to perform FGM or arrange for the operation to be carried out. The doctor and dentist deny any wrongdoing.

The practice, which involves the surgical removal of external genitalia and in some cases the stitching of the vaginal opening, is illegal in Britain and carries up to a 14-year prison sentence. It is also against the law to arrange FGM.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/22/female-genital-mutilation-uk-medics


unsurprisingly our jails are not bursting at the seams with the practioners. i wonder why?

the war on women indeed
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 355
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:02:49 PM
I think the whole "war on women" is a manufactured bunch of b.s.. I am a woman. I've been paying the handful of dollars for my own birth control since I was 13 years old. If you can't afford the handful of dollars to pay for your birth control, then you can go to the free clinics - and yes, there are plenty of them! When you are a college student, you can get free condoms, the pill, or other such methods of birth control FOR FREE or for a SMALL FEE through student services. This notion that women have no access to birth control is a crock. As far as insurance goes, it depends on what is written into your plan. Some employers can't afford to purchase super super awesome health insurance, so it might not cover some things. I've had some insurance plans that covered chiropractic care, and I've had some that didn't. I've had some that required you to go to only certain doctors, and other places I worked gave you the more costly option of having a PPO, which allowed you to go to any doctor you wanted. I've never ever ever in my life had an insurance plan that covered my birth control pills. Was it a big deal? NO! And hey, condoms aren't all that expensive! Some insurance plans don't cover the yearly pap smear, and some do. Even then, I could still go and get a cheap pap smear through Planned Parenthood or some other clinic. None of this is or was a big deal. Trust me, I am a woman, and I know. The only reason anyone is making a big deal out of it now is because they are looking for a wedge issue for the upcoming election. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Anyway, it's up to the insurance provider to determine what level of coverage they can afford to get for their employees, so all of this is really stupid. If your insurance doesn't cover certain things, then either get a job with better benefits, or buy some supplemental insurance. I'm not going to vote Democrat because of this so-called "issue."
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 356
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:05:05 PM
Earthpuppy,

"Conservatives by far legislate morality, doing so based on ancient standards,"

Lest you forget, let me remind you that the Progressive movement of the early 1900s brought us prohibition and other such regulatory measures.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 357
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Posted: 5/5/2012 1:31:44 PM
Lest you forget, let me remind you that the Progressive movement of the early 1900s brought us prohibition and other such regulatory measures.


Ok...so what has that to do with the "current" GOP onslaught against women, gays, children, minorities, yada yada yada????
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 5/5/2012 2:09:32 PM
larrison...It's not just about affordable birth control. The attack on women is a multi-front threat to gains made since the right to vote was granted no so long ago. Defunding PP is hardly an answer to preventing unwanted abortions. The assaults also include fighting against the Violence Against Women Act, re-defining rape, forced vaginal ultrasounds, and numerous other fronts where gains were made.
http://msmagazine.com/HERvotes/

There is a PSA for republican women who are willing footsoldiers in the war on women.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49HkpsbHmM
Pretty funny, but probably true for some women.


The progressive party of that era was considerably different that what we refer to as progressives today. Leaders of that party like Teddy Roosevelt would not be recognized as a "true conservative" in today's world. Prohibition was driven primarily by the morality of the day of church folks, in addition to women's violence issues and anti-German sentiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States


Prohibition was demanded by the "dries" – primarily pietistic Protestant denominations, especially the Methodists, Northern Baptists, Southern Baptists, New School Presbyterians, Disciples of Christ, Congregationalists, Quakers and Scandinavian Lutherans. They identified saloons as politically corrupt and drinking as a personal sin. Other active organizations included the Women's Church Federation, the Women's Temperance Crusade, and the Department of Scientific Temperance Instruction. They were opposed by the "wets" – primarily liturgical Protestants (Episcopalians, German Lutherans) and Roman Catholics, who denounced the idea that the government should define morality.[23]
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 5/5/2012 5:35:00 PM
Matchlight: Never makes personal attacks. Except when he does.


That almost sounds like a personal attack. Most of us recognize the difference between attacking a public figure or a group of unnamed people, on the one hand, and directly addressing personal insults to another poster. Either that difference is lost on you, or you're yet one more of the people here who would like to silence everyone whose views they don't like.
 matchlight
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Posted: 5/5/2012 5:55:49 PM
Ok...so what has that to do with the "current" GOP onslaught against women, gays, children, minorities, yada yada yada????


There is no such onslaught. Leftists, following their standard underhanded procedure, have concocted it as a political trick to gull the gullible. The radicals who have taken control of the Democratic Party see their power slipping away, and they are desperate. They could not care less if they ruin the United States.

It is radical leftists like Mr. Obama and his faithful followers who are waging a war against this country and its people. They want to humble it abroad and ruin it financially at home. Mr. Obama's "radical transformation" means destroying this country and reconstituting it as an illegitimate socialist utopia that the U.S. Constitution has never authorized. He is steadily driving the great ship of state beneath the waves. And when it goes down, we will all go with it--men, women, and children.


So what's this then:


Why don't you tell me? I'm sure you'd be very pleased if I meekly accepted whatever personal insults or obscenities or barnyard language you or others happen to feel like using.
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 5/6/2012 1:26:28 AM
here cover you should see the pm's that get sent to dissenters from the pc stasi book get.

as for abuse? there was one thread, it was about homosexuality being discussed in missouri
where mainly canadians (again) called dissenters (in no particular order)
racist, fascist, homophobe, islamophobe, bigots, deniers, haters, kkk, republicants,
teabaggers im sure ive left a couple out but no doubt more will be along in a min.

have a wee gander the threads at the bottom of page 1 in off topic. see who gets hysterical

of course pointing out that the war on women occurs in other cultures gets slung a deefy,
the rubber ear, blanked, bodyswerved and consigned to the pc stasi memory hole.

far easier to attack missourians rather than get stuck in the multi kulti argument eh?

Honour' violence is acceptable, say one in five young British Asians

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117003/Honour-violence-acceptable-say-young-British-Asians.html#ixzz1u4lBl2Dg

The honour killing files:
Robert Fisk: The crimewave that shames the world
It's one of the last great taboos: the murder of at least 20,000 women a year in the name of 'honour'. Nor is the problem confined to the Middle East: the contagion is spreading rapidly

It is a tragedy, a horror, a crime against humanity. The details of the murders – of the women beheaded, burned to death, stoned to death, stabbed, electrocuted, strangled and buried alive for the "honour" of their families – are as barbaric as they are shameful. Many women's groups in the Middle East and South-west Asia suspect the victims are at least four times the United Nations' latest world figure of around 5,000 deaths a year. Most of the victims are young, many are teenagers, slaughtered under a vile tradition that goes back hundreds of years but which now spans half the globe.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html

shames the world but does not shame pc stasi liberal types on here apparently. maybe if they happened in missouri

 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:14:08 AM
Where McCarthylight sees "radical leftists", socialists, commies who want to destroy america all over the place, those of us in rhe reality-based world see moderates up the wahzoo, and extreme right that has pushed the limits of fascsism further and further to the right, that even moderate republicans of a decade or two ago would be considered "radical leftists" today. Obama is a moderate. He p*sses off what remains of any left leaning electorate as much as he upsets the far right. About the only "leftists" I can think of in modern politics are people like Kuccinich, Feingold, and Sanders and they were and are quite reasonable people compared to the screaming far right radicals.

Vlad...agreed on the ugliness and assaults on women in other cultures and the need to address that as well. Thing is, we are having a helluva time just trying to export gunpoint democracy, and gunboat human rights have been an even greater challenge. The US is a self-proclaimed beacon of democracy and human rights. We envisioned briefly, that we would lead by example. The short period between when women won the right to vote in 1920, got nods toward equal rights, equal pay, ending back ally abortion deaths, got reproductive autonomy, raised the glass ceiling etc, and Reagan, was a mere 60 years of gains that have been methodically challenged and beat back since Reagan and in earnest by puritan teapublicans in the past couple of years,

Our brief flirtation with equal rights for all, hit the wall with gay folks, and has reversed on women. Nearly all of the women of all political strips that I know, are highly upset at this radical assault on their hard earned rights. It tends to be guys from the far right who started and support the war on women, who adammently disavow any knowledge of their actions and deflect it to some "made up" cause by "the left".
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:24:42 AM
but they dont get addressed EP

they get bodyswerved. at least do the honourable thing and admit its very very
uncomfortable for liberals to look into other cultures and be critical.

of course women should not be losing rights, but surely women who have no rights
at all should have everyone frothing at the mouth should it not?

but it doesnt does it? the treatment of women in other cultures wont go away because
some in the west pretend it does not happen?

and coming back with a counter claim does not debate the problem does it?

as you know my posting is limited to 5 a day now so i cant get into debates but surely
the time is right to look at other cultures and for once and for all get the head out of
the liberal sand and face facts.

i wont hold my breath though
 matchlight
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Posted: 5/6/2012 8:57:56 AM
I don't agree with you at all, and think attacking someone based on looks, public figure or not reeks of poor taste.


I see. I'll give that opinion, which come from someone who recently called another poster a "f*cking ****," all the consideration it deserves.


That's not really the sort of thing that makes the ladies' swoon though ya know.


If you only knew what your advice means to me.


Where McCarthylight


If you're talking about me, I always take it as a compliment to be associated with a great patriot like Joe McCarthy. Bobby Kennedy worked for Senator McCarthy, knew him well, and thought the world of him.
 balrog67
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:11:46 AM

I see. I'll give that opinion, which come from someone who recently called another poster a "f*cking ****," all the consideration it deserves.


And yet you have no problem referring to posters as Leftists whenever you start losing an argument. Are you the pot, or the kettle in this scenario??
lol!



"Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor."
-Thomas Jefferson
 balrog67
Joined: 4/1/2012
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:20:31 AM

If you're talking about me, I always take it as a compliment to be associated with a great patriot like Joe McCarthy. Bobby Kennedy worked for Senator McCarthy, knew him well, and thought the world of him.


"Regarding Kennedy and Joseph McCarthy, Steel never mentions that, as Senate counsel, R.F.K. fairly quickly came to abhor McCarthy's subcommittee's tactics and told McCarthy so"

http://partners.nytimes.com/books/00/01/09/reviews/000109.09wilent.html

OK, maybe a love - hate thing.........
;-)
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:33:13 PM
Not only did Bobby run away screaming from McCarthy, but the US senate censured him for his behavior.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/censure_cases/133Joseph_McCarthy.htm

It all makes sense now that McCarthylight uses the same language, and tactics and has so many demons surrounding him. He worships the guy and his Quiotic tilting at windmills of his mind.
 matchlight
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:39:45 PM

It all makes sense now that McCarthylight uses the same language, and tactics and has so many demons surrounding him. He worships the guy and his Quiotic tilting at windmills of his mind.


I'm sure you are on much closer terms with demons than I am. If you want to debate about McCarthy with me, I hope you'll start a thread. I would enjoy it. Please keep up the name-calling--you do it so well, and your puny arguments desperately need whatever artificial support you can give them.

As to harming women, I wonder why you are so conspicuously silent about the horrible treatment of women by Islamist savages around the world. Are you an apologist for Muslim fundamentalism, or do you think those women don't count? Did Lara Logan, the American TV reporter who was sexually assaulted and almost killed in Cairo by a crowd of Muslim thugs deserve it, for showing her legs and blonde hair?

The degenerates who control Iran have murdered more than a few women in their dungeons. Some were western journalists. If you agree with Mr. Obama, though, I guess it's fine to keep bowing and grinning at them. Do you think it's wrong to mutilate young girls' genitals or keep them from going to school? Or don't you consider trifles like these as worthy of your concern as the phony "war on women" Mr. Obama's brain trust has ginned up in a desperate attempt to get women to vote for him?
 BalderDog2
Joined: 1/6/2011
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Posted: 5/6/2012 4:13:38 PM

I wonder why you are so conspicuously silent about the horrible treatment of women by Islamist savages around the world.


I thought the discussion was about the reprehensible Republican attack on women's rights here in the United States, and not around the world.


...Islamist savages...


I just want people to read this part, again.
 larissan04
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Posted: 5/6/2012 6:26:31 PM
bladesmith~

"Excuse me, what? After campaigning on a "Job, Jobs Jobs" platform, the GOP hasnt produced a single jobs bill to date."

this isn't a thread about jobs or legislation. it's a thread about the manufactured war on women. but since you have digressed, i will happily join you in exploring the tangent.

first of all. there is no bill, no government program, and no subsidy that is going to create self sustaining jobs. sure, the government can expand its employment rolls, but those again would be jobs that do not pay for themselves but are payed for by tax payers. government doesn't do a very good job of creating jobs, but it does have a huge impact on the business climate through regulation, taxes, and other such policies. if you want jobs then create a climate that is conducive to business. personally, i like a separation of business and state, so the less fraternizing between the two sectors the better. dems don't get it though. they still don't get how to step back and let business do business. they always want to meddle in things or control them.
 larissan04
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Posted: 5/6/2012 6:45:23 PM
balrog,

"R.F.K. fairly quickly came to abhor McCarthy's subcommittee's tactics and told McCarthy so"

while mccarthy was a jerk, he has been exonerated. i would direct your attention to the two volume set of books based on the mitroiken archive, and also the venona papers. both the venona project and the mitroiken archive show that not only were the rosenbergs guilty, but alger hiss was indeed a spy. the list of russian operatives active in the US and other western nations is quite extensive, and mccarthy was right on the money.

the mitroiken archive is considered to be probably the biggest intelligence cache in history. basically, visilli mitroiken, the archivist for the kgb, had been copying documents for over 20 years. after the berlin wall came down, he called up british intelligence and said, "hi guys, i've got all these documents, can you get me out of here?" the venona project was a secret ongoing decryption analysis project carried out by american and british intelligence agencies. it took them decades, but they decoded transmissions from the soviet union, and found out plenty about russian spy networks through out the world.

why people are still arguing about mccarthy, i do not know. these documents are overwhelmingly conclusive evidence that mccarthy was right. the case is closed on this topic.


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 Bladesmith81801
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Posted: 5/6/2012 6:50:12 PM
Larissan, did you read my entire statement? Perhaps you should read it again.

I'll say it again. The GOP ran in 2010 on a jobs platform. They got elected on that platform. And immediately after getting elected, and until now, have YET to present a jobs bill, but instead, we've gotten 127 bills attacking women, PP, unions, teachers, cops, firefighters, and gays.

In short, instead of doing the job they claimed they wanted to do, they've done everything else, mostly attacking women.

Do you understand what I said now?
 larissan04
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:09:10 PM
your version of "attacking unions" is a bill that says that people don't have to pay "fair share" union dues when they are not members of the union. that isn't an attack on unions, that is freedom extended to people allowing them to decide whether or not they want to contribute to a union. you think that limiting the unions ability to bargain for workers is an attack on unions, yet i personally know many people that are under employed or can not get promoted because of union rules. i would be making a lot more money today if i were allowed to negotiate my own contract instead of being subject to union pay schedule. workers should have that right to choose. your version of a "war on women" is a bill that says that insurance companies are not required to pay for birth control, when they've never been required to pay for birth control before. the question is, why is this suddenly an issue now? as the above examples illustrate, your assertions are nothing more than partisan dysphemisms, and in truth, these are all secondary issues, at best. these issues are nothing more then a well thought out effort to distract people from the economy. those familiar with political action tactics can see this clearly.

the government doesn't create JOBS; business creates jobs, and business people are not going to expand or invest in an unstable economic climate. but while we are on the topic of stiffling jobs...the obama administration has nixed the one sure fire thing that would create thousands of direct, self sustaining, un-government subsidized jobs and tertiary jobs: the keystone pipeline.

the bottom line is this... it doesn't matter who created the problems...we sent this new president to DC to fix the problems....he hasn't fixed them... we need a problem solver...and obama's record demonstrates that he is not a problem solver...
 larissan04
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:20:06 PM
hammertown~

"Woman know Omaba's policies are BETTER for woman then Mitt "Gorden Geeko" Romney 's policies."

on a personal note... as a woman, i really don't appreciate it when men tell me what i should care about and what should be important to me when in comes to women's issues. such preaching comes across as pretty insulting and disingenuous. as a man you will never know what it is like to worry about getting pregnant when you don't want to, and you will never ever ever know what it is like to have to make a decision to abort a child that you are carrying inside your own body. so please, please, please...don't presume to tell me, as a woman, what position i should hold on any of these issues...and please, don't presume to tell me which candidate's policies will better serve me as a woman...
 BalderDog2
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:27:44 PM

...you will never know what it is like to worry about getting pregnant when you don't want to, and you will never ever ever know what it is like to have to make a decision to abort a child...


If the Republicans get their way, you won't have to worry about making that decision. The Republicans will make that decision for you.
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