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 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Women physicians being paid less than their male counterparts. No physical limitation reasons.
http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/medical/article_e816ecce-2d77-11e0-9993-0017a4a78c22.html
College grads in the same fields...
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/16/why-do-new-female-college-grads-earn-17-less-than-men/
Women who completed their associates degrees still earned less than men who did not finish college, working in the same fields.
http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2010/apr/CCearnings
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 477
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:12:50 AM
you crack me up..Huffpo etc..did a little digging lo sasso said that gender bias might be the reason but he believed that women traded family friendly schedules and benefits for monetary compensation...
 mrcs84
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 478
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:34:16 PM
Earthpuppy. You present these sites, and in every situation they are justified as to what is going on.


College grads in the same fields...
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/16/why-do-new-female-college-grads-earn-17-less-than-men/

"Women don't negotiate their pay when hired, as if they're happy just to get the job," observes Marcia Reynolds, a Phoenix-based executive coach whose clients include AT&T (T), American Express (AXP), and Ernst & Young. Getting paid the same as the guys "takes a little time researching average male hiring salaries in the field you're entering. It also takes knowing how to promote yourself."
In her coaching work, Reynolds has noticed time after time that women are too modest for their own good.
"They don't like to self-promote. When I ask my female executive clients to identify what they contribute [to the organization], beyond their technical skills and knowledge, they act as if I'm speaking another language," Reynolds says.


An employer is going to pay you the minimum required to keep you around. If you don't negotiate, then you're not going to get paid as much as you possibly could.



http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2010/apr/CCearnings

Compton acknowledges that the gender disparity may be artificially inflated because the earnings figures do not consider part-time vs. full-time employment and previous literature has reported that a higher percentage of women turn to part-time employment while raising young children.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 479
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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:44:45 AM
After watching last nights news showing the Mittster having three (3) different opinions on abortion in just the last 2 weeks.....I wonder what his position really is.

First, he's going to do away with funding for planned parenthood...then he's going to ignore it...then he's back to no abortion except for rape....he's spinning so fast I'm sure even his advisors are dizzy.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 480
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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:20:39 PM
Master of the flip plop:

MOUNT VERNON, Ohio (AP) — A day after Mitt Romney downplayed his plans to fight abortion, social conservatives on Wednesday offered the Republican presidential nominee a not-so-subtle reminder of his pledge to do "everything in my power to cultivate, promote, and support a culture of life in America."

The head of the anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List distributed an article Romney penned last summer vowing to prohibit federal funding for Planned Parenthood, while backing legislation that would "protect unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion." In the June 2011 article, Romney also expressed support for the reversal of Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion.

"We have full confidence that as president, Gov. Romney will stand by the pro-life commitments," said Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser.

In an interview Tuesday with The Des Moines Register, Romney said he would not pursue any abortion-related legislation if elected.

"There's no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda," he told the Iowa newspaper, an apparent shift from his previous position.

http://www.khou.com/news/national/173558551.html

As recently as a presidential debate in January, Romney said the Supreme Court should overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that legalized abortion across the nation.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82225.html
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 481
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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:35:40 PM
LMAO...you spin almost as good as the Mittster


Well, golly gee........ finally we have a person running for office that understands that the abortion is is to be decided on a STATE BY STATE basis. Did you miss that part, or are just ignoring it because you don't like it, don't agree with it, didn't know


Geee....that's not what the Mittster said.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 482
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Posted: 10/11/2012 12:36:32 PM
"Again, it is an issue that should be decided on a state by state basis..."

Really? Is that why he has repeatedly stated he would sign a bill from congress, banning abortion? Kinda doesn't sound "state by state" to me! But maybe your thinking the united states versus the arab states or state of Israel or some other state somewhere in the world...hahahaha!
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/11/2012 2:41:13 PM

Really? Is that why he has repeatedly stated he would sign a bill from congress, banning abortion? Kinda doesn't sound "state by state" to me! But maybe your thinking the united states versus the arab states or state of Israel or some other state somewhere in the world...hahahaha!


Really that is pretty much exactly what he said word for word when he first said it... in 2007. Try... Try really hard to hear the words as complete sentences that relate to eachother and in the context of the whole statement and not the funny twist of meaning given to it.

Yes, state by state
Yes, would love if abortion didn't happen
Yes, would sign a bill ending roe v wade immediately to send issue back to the states


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVjMQj3fMYQ
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 484
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:26:00 PM

There is no war on women. This is total nonsense, manufactured by the cultural marxists
to further divide the country. In fact, this sort of thing smacks of THE BIG LIE.
The idea is to state something outlandish, and repeat it so often that it becomes a mantra,
and the gullible public begins to believe it.

Thanks for the irony.

Because:
Restricting contraception
Reducing funding for Planned Parenthood
Adding abortion taxes
Adding abortion waiting periods
Mandating women to tell their employers why they want birth control
Not letting insurance companies include abortion coverage in their policies

Is totally not a war on women.




I can't think think of one thing that "progressives" (I laugh every time I hear the word) have done for women that hasn't actually backfired and caused immeasurable pain for women.

So true, giving those women the ability to vote has clearly backfired.

Though I am sure you could list at least 5 things that "progressives" have done that has backfired, unless you are just making stuff up that you can not actually back up with any facts.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 485
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:39:28 PM
"If we had that consensus in the country I would be delighted to sign that bill"

Just 2 short years ago, when Brown was elected to governor of Wisconsin, he NEVER said on the stump, he was going to nuke unions....yet it was one of the first things he did!

So are telling me, if a republican house and a republican senate, slammed through a bill, this douchbag wouldn't sign it? That would be all the consensus he would need, despite how many women would feel on the issue.

These guys are ALL about WHAT THEY WANT...not neccessarily what the people want. You can show me all the youtube vidoes and have him swear on a stack of his own kind of bibles(not really a bibble, just sayin) and it wouldn't mean a thing. He has NO spine, he could never stand up to the party and do what's right, like your state by state thing...they would want to go whole hog!

Cause they know better than the rest of us....
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/12/2012 7:57:38 PM

These guys are ALL about WHAT THEY WANT...not neccessarily what the people want.


Consensus in the country!!! Who are you to deny it?

Just like... Who am I to deny if the country consensus is socialisim?
 The_Lucky_One
Joined: 9/7/2012
Msg: 487
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Posted: 10/13/2012 7:18:19 AM
This appears to be a fear mongering ploy to try to convince women that we are somehow victims to only one party... this is rubbish. We all all victims, men and women of the current administrations failure to create a booming economy so that we all can prosper. Let's get the economy going strong, people working and our embassies safe under better Leadership.
 sweetest
Joined: 10/8/2007
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Posted: 10/13/2012 8:53:57 AM

I grew up in a Republican family in Illinois, and my first ballots were cast for moderate Illinois Republicans in the late 70s: Sen. Percy, Gov Jim Thompson, Rep John B. Anderson. In 1978 I moved to Virginia and their GOP was a backward group I could not cast a vote for.

But, as a woman, I could see it was time to leave the Republican Party anyway. They were uninterested in what were considered "women's issues." They didn't see things like pay equality, equal access to education, "Feminism," reproductive rights, birth control, health care, job protection, FMLA, early education, etc as part of the purview of politics. These were all personal issues women would just have to struggle with themselves. They had their model women in Phyllis Schlafly and Margaret Thatcher, backward-looking woman who had their personal success and weren't interested in seeing other women join them.

30 years later the national GOP continues to remind my generation of women why we cannot vote for their candidates. I still pay close attention to "women's issues," and I see quite clearly that only the Democratic party sees my concerns as legitimate and important.


^^^ I wonder how many women see themselves like this Republican whose comment I found posted to an opinion piece in the NY Times?


Women's issues aren't something abstract. Women's issues are economic ones.

As women make up more than half of the work force, the average family hasn't been surviving on a man's income alone for a long time now--that's reality. Family planning is often an economic as well as a personal consideration of which the government has no seat at that table.


Women have already fought the good fight for their reproductive freedoms in order to work. If women cannot control when they have their children, they and their families are affected economically.

If 'individualism' is one of the ideological pillars of the GOP, perhaps they should lay off of their focus on intrusive decisions concerning individuals when it comes to an individual woman's choice about her body.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/13/2012 12:19:23 PM

Women's issues aren't something abstract. Women's issues are economic ones.

? Maybe they are "women's economic issues" if they are single but if they are married that makes them "family economic issues."

Why is a womens rights less important if she is single then if she is part of a family? Why do married women vote differently then single women?

Did you know unmarried women are being targeted as a 'demographic'? How are they viewed?
http://www.voterparticipation.org/research-type/demographic-research-on-unmarried-women-and-the-rising-american-electorate/

All unmarried women rely on information received by word of mouth. Social media is a powerful way to trigger these in-person conversations for younger women; for older women, younger friends and family can spark this conversation.


Chatty little social butterflies? Uh, okay?

Haha, so how do you target the social chatters? Meme's. "The war on women."
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 490
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Posted: 10/14/2012 9:55:57 AM
I'm sure that most of us here, posting, when given the choice, decided to create life...yet, some of us recognize that whatever our decisions were...these decisions were ours to make and no one elses...in other words...respect my right to decide for myself what is good for me....



Chatty little social butterflies?


Such a nice opinion of women....no wonder some think women aren't qualified to make their own decision in important matters.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/14/2012 10:24:25 AM

Such a nice opinion of women....no wonder some think women aren't qualified to make their own decision in important matters.

What is it with you guys and context and the ability to maintain it.


http://www.voterparticipation.org/about-us/founder-bio/
It was the opinion of ^^ that 'All Women' get their news and opinions from talking socially and social media.

It is ^^ and you that do not trust that women are qualified to make their own decision by allowing it to be decided at the state level. You do not trust women, men, nor elected officials at a state level.

You want a single morality decided from a central location that applies to the entire country. That is the opposite of trust. The only difference between that position and Authoritarianism religion is the decision to do it by law which begins to define a totalitarian system.

I don't think it would be made illegal in any but a few states. Where that was done would be a problem due to attempts to leave the state to have an abortion. This would trigger a lawsuit which would inevitable result in a supreme court decision basing it on something entirely different the Roe V. Wade... So, the chance of it actually passing through congress and becoming law is pretty low. If you are so sure of the rightness of your decision then it should survive challenges.

One thing that doesn't make it is... moral and right. That however is not the topic and again the war on women is a false meme targeted at women to subvert an honest and intellectual reflection of the actual issue and claim it as a liberal social conscious.

The only reason I don't think this should become a real issue that should be faced directly is just that the left is so successful in taking things out of context and the very easy ability to do that because of the real dipshit people in congress and senate that can't seem to form a proper coherent sentence.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 492
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Posted: 10/14/2012 10:48:44 AM

It was the opinion of ^^ that 'All Women' get their news and opinions from talking socially and social media.


No, these were your words:


Chatty little social butterflies


Not some utube cut n paste.


You want a single morality decided from a central location that applies to the entire country.


No...we democrats would like to have indiduals decide what is moral for them on this issue...not some old white guy uber conservative evangelical republicant.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 493
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Posted: 10/14/2012 8:00:35 PM

22 years of Republican rule since Roe Wade hasn't changed the ability to have abortions.

You would be incorrect there.

There have been cuts to funding resulting in the closure of clinics.

Then you can not look past repeated attempts by republican legislators to re-define rape laws to force women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.


No war on women, Denial of epic proportions.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 10/14/2012 8:32:34 PM

Are you talking about Reagan? If you're talking about Obama, you're lying. Reagan was the last president to grant amnesty to millions of illegals. You may start ranting about how terrible he is if you want. At least you wouldn't be lying and sounding clueless.


Love how the dishonesty machines can create these situations. Yes, Reagan did that. He did so willingly on the agreement that once it was done that the immigration laws would be enforced. He did this as a deal with democrats who lied and never followed through with the promise to enforce immigration laws (big surprise there).

http://www.geraldforcongress.com/id19.html

a Bit of History (how President Reagan was sandbagged)
Ronald Reagan was one of the most conservative politicians to ever occupy the Oval Office. He wished to solve the problem of illegal immigration, so he struck a deal with Congressional Democrats: he agreed to grant to grant amnesty and citizenship, and Congress in turn agreed to finally come down hard on illegal aliens and solve the problem once and for all. Amnesty was granted, but the hammer never came down on illegal immigrants: Democrats had successfully sandbagged the President.


Now, Democrats get to lovingly declare that Reagan granted amnesty.

WTF does this have to do with women?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 495
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Posted: 10/15/2012 5:25:56 AM

Fear mongering in epic proportions


Says some uber conservative white guy who has no fear of ever becoming pregnant but wishes to impose his POV on those that will...you want to be pro-life...then chose live when it's your choice...you want to be pro-choice...then make your own choices.
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 496
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Posted: 10/15/2012 6:51:29 AM
Just as you want to impose your views on those women who are pro life..what your side always seems to conveniently forget is that were it not for a Choice made by a woman she would not find herself in need of an abortion...
 59thShadeofGrey
Joined: 9/25/2012
Msg: 497
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Posted: 10/15/2012 9:22:01 AM

what your side always seems to conveniently forget is that were it not for a Choice made by a woman she would not find herself in need of an abortion...


Yeah, cuz abject poverty, lack of access to health care and education, and rape are choices women make...

Reckon the bible was right when it said women need to STFU and listen to men.
 DRKKNGHT193
Joined: 9/23/2012
Msg: 498
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Posted: 10/15/2012 9:36:25 AM
"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward."
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 499
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Posted: 10/15/2012 11:34:55 AM

Love how the dishonesty machines can create these situations.

So true as HB462 is just make believe, and not a real bill that forces women to have unnecessary medical procedures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/02/29/Local-Politics/Images/Abortion_Bills_04a9f.jpg
 Aries_328
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Posted: 10/15/2012 12:40:28 PM

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward."


A liberal man is a man that used his heart to totally forget that he had a brain.
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