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 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 576
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Could someone kindly explain to me why is the majority of the posters in a thread discussing Women's Rights..... male?!
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 577
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Posted: 10/21/2012 2:29:44 PM

Could someone kindly explain to me why is the majority of the posters in a thread discussing Women's Rights..... male?!


Were you waiting for an invitation? Your opinion... free and unrestricted or rare and with restrictions? Please give thoughts, opinions, and hopefully some foundation for these thoughts and beliefs that make them relevant to more then just an individual and anecdotal case.

The floor is yours.
 irishlab33
Joined: 1/16/2011
Msg: 578
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 2:35:12 PM

Could someone kindly explain to me why is the majority of the posters in a thread discussing Women's Rights..... male?!


It appears that if your spouse dies, you become an expert an all things female, parental, and shoot, just about dang near everything.

or, it could just make you a pompous a.s.s.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 579
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 3:55:59 PM
I'm surprised that you continue to declare folks who do not adopt or foster children as hypocrites if they oppose prolific use of abortion


First off...I'm not advocating increased abortion. And in my life I've never been a party to an abortion....Unlike the party of republigants...I don't force my choices onto others...I believe that others know better than I, you, or our government what they should do...yanno, it's not just because I have actually adoptd an unwanted abused child that makes me see all these republigants as hypocrites...it's that these ppl who wish to force their morality onto others...yet do not become part of the solution...not one of them here have done what I've done and I'm the proponent of choice...I believe that if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem...this is how I see the republigants on this issue...they care more for the potential life of an egg or spermizoa than they do for the living child.


It appears that if your spouse dies, you become an expert an all things female, parental, and shoot, just about dang near everything.

or, it could just make you a pompous a.s.s.


Or you could have no successful marrigae...be and idiot...and make idiotic statements without the benefit of ever having any positive life experience...and I ask again...which of you has been a foster parent, adopted an unwanted child, helped an unwed young pregnant woman with prenatal care...because if there isn't one of you here from republigant land then you're part of the problem.
 Gashlycrumb_Briny
Joined: 9/26/2010
Msg: 580
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 4:50:45 PM

It shouldn't surprise anyone to see that leftists want more abortions


Where has anyone said they want to see more abortions? The fewer abortions women need, the better. Sort of like most medical procedures; ideally you won't ever need it, but if you do need it, you want it to be safe, professional, affordable, and accessible.


the lion's share of which are performed on black women


Interesting choice of phrasing. Do you think black women are stupid? do you think they are having abortions performed on them because they were tricked into being part of someone's eugenics project? If you can't trust every woman to be able to make the individual choice that is best for her, then...you don't have much respect for women. And a little context for why people make the decisions they make wouldn't go astray.
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 581
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:02:11 PM
The war on women is a complete red herring. If there is any one single issue that trumps EVERYTHING in this election, it is the economy. The war on women is a trumped up - made up slogan that is being bandied about by Democratic strategists for the sole purpose of trying to drum up lagging support for Obama amongst women. The slogan is even alliterative, which is even more laughable and oh-so-obviously contrived. I can imagine a bunch of Democratic campaign strategists sitting around brainstorming about how to "sell" the whole idea to voters. I am sure someone actually said, "...it should be alliterative." Anyone who falls for this canard is about as smart as one of Orwell's farm animals.
 irishlab33
Joined: 1/16/2011
Msg: 582
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:24:19 PM

Or you could have no successful marrigae...be and idiot...


I believe this is what we call- irony.

"yur stoopid"
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 583
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:31:37 PM
I also want to add that as a woman, I find it insulting, disingenuous, and down right galling to listen to men blather on about abortion or women's rights. You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?" You will never ever know what it is like to be in a position of authority or in a senior position and have someone ask you to get him a cup of coffee, or mistake you for the receptionist. You will never know what it is like to have a man treat you like a slut simply because you had sex with him "too soon" (which is purely an arbitrary "date" and differs from man to man, which makes dating all the more harrowing for a single woman). You will never know what it is like to be called a slut, whore, or****simply because you refused a man's advances, either. You will never appreciate that clothing designers purposely make women's clothing and accessories of poorer materials and poorer qualities then men's clothing and accessories, simply because women shop more. You will never know what it feels like to be afraid walking across a dark parking lot at night, and you will never know what it is like to feel nervous when you hear footsteps behind you as you walk down a dark lonely street. And when you go to the car mechanic, you don't have to worry so much about being scammed. So please, please, please spare me your faux outrage and your oh-so-smarmy advocacy for me or my rights as a woman. Because, in truth, you will never know what it is like to be a woman. And for the record, no, I am not falling for the marketing angle that is this so-called war on women. It is nothing but a complete joke.

We've had pro-life presidents before and not ONE of them was able to overturn Roe vs. Wade. The office of the presidency is part of the executive branch, not the legislature, which writes and passes law. In addition, since the Supreme Court has ruled that abortion is in fact legal, there is really little that can be done to change that barring the court hearing a new case on the issue - which they have chosen NOT to do over the decades. But even hearing a new case would make overturning Roe vs. Wade very unlikely. Considering Robert's propensity towards deferring to legal precedent, this whole "fear" reads like a fairy tale. Robert's is big on stare decisis. So if you want to chase rainbows or political boogeymen, go ahead, just don't "use" us women as a means of doing so.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 584
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Posted: 10/21/2012 5:52:48 PM
stoopid"


Oh jeeze
..now we'll pick apart typo's...idiotically...

How about a post that deals with the topic? Or even an opinion on topic? Or perhaps string along more than a cut n paste along with more than 8 of your (not you're) own words....Sigh...some ppl


You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?" You will never ever know what it is like to be in a position of authority or in a senior position and have someone ask you to get him a cup of coffee, or mistake you for the receptionist.


You're absolutely right...men will never know these things first hand...and apparently some women think we should have no empathy for women that have experienced these things first hand...well, let me splain somthin to ya...you cannot stop my empathy.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
Msg: 585
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Posted: 10/21/2012 6:12:10 PM

I never denied it because like many things you write


You never denied it because you can't. It's true.


the Pro-Choice stance you so cravenly cower from


I have no idea what you're talking about, and I doubt you do. It is outright bizarre to say that someone who disagrees with you about a subject is "cowering" from taking your stance on it. What is irrelevant are my personal views on abortion, which is why I've almost never discussed them here. I'm sure it's hard for you to imagine, but some of us can strongly dislike what a group of people says or does, and yet even more strongly defend their right to say or do it. Leftists have gotten used to ignoring and abusing the Constitution whenever they please, but now they can expect a very hard fight when they try that. I don't care a damn about getting along with them--only about defeating them.

The only thing that interests me about the subject of abortion is the abuse of the Constitution the Supreme Court engaged in by arbitrarily making it a constitutional right. I really don't care if all fifty states have abortion on demand, or if all fifty ban it under all circumstances, or if some or all allow it under various conditions. All I'm concerned with is protecting the right of the majority in any state to regulate abortion as they see fit against leftist control freaks who want to tell everyone how to live.


and its pogrom to keep minorities stupid and poor


That's a harsh way to talk about the Democratic Party and the Uncle Sam's plantation it has been running at least since Lyndon Johnson and his Great Society, but it is pretty accurate. Under the guise of caring about the poor and the non-white, they make them wards of the federal government and so make sure of their votes. Johnson himself admitted as much. What so-called liberals really care about is power, and they don't care how much harm their foolish policies do as long as they can convince themselves they meant well.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 586
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Posted: 10/21/2012 8:11:59 PM
Hey match

you forgot to include CORPORATE welfare; so allow me to modify your statement as such:



Under the guise of caring about(A)__________________ they make them wards of the federal government and so make sure of their(B)__________. All the (C)___________ admitted as much. What so-called(D)_____________ really care about is power, and they don't care how much harm their foolish policies do as long as they can (E)_____________.

(A) Creating jobs
(B) Political contributions/support
(C) GOP candidates
(D) Neo-cons
(E) Keep giving the wealthy massive tax breaks

Isn't capitalism & free market great? especially when you got the Feds subsidizing you and giving you tax breaks to boot!
 statemachine500
Joined: 8/25/2011
Msg: 587
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Posted: 10/21/2012 8:12:14 PM
"I also want to add that as a woman, I find it insulting, disingenuous, and down right galling to listen to men blather on about abortion or women's rights. You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?""


Last I checked it took two people to make a baby.What is it that you know about the father's feeling about this?If the guy has to ask if you are sure the child is his....were you holding him at length or something?

"You will never ever know what it is like to be in a position of authority or in a senior position and have someone ask you to get him a cup of coffee, or mistake you for the receptionist."

There's always an idiot from some little burb somewhere.



"You will never know what it is like to have a man treat you like a slut simply because you had sex with him "too soon" (which is purely an arbitrary "date" and differs from man to man, which makes dating all the more harrowing for a single woman). You will never know what it is like to be called a slut, whore, or****simply because you refused a man's advances, either"


Try turning down a woman who expects you to say yes ....I bet we could hear some real episodes here.



You will never know what it feels like to be afraid walking across a dark parking lot at night, and you will never know what it is like to feel nervous when you hear footsteps behind you as you walk down a dark lonely street.


Ever been robbed ?Avoid dark and lonely places please.


And when you go to the car mechanic, you don't have to worry so much about being scammed.


With the sophistication

of modern vehicles and the special software needed to diagnose problems,they could tell you it's martians and you couldn't disprove it.Anybody can get scammed these days.

If the possibility of changing these abortion laws is so remote then why do the reps play football with this issue?

I have had to deal with the issue of abortion in the past personally.And I have met many women that were about to have an abortion.All but one were deep in thought.My sister-in-law is a rabid pro abortion supporter despite having two children herself.Men can certainly have a viewpoint on this matter.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 588
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Posted: 10/21/2012 8:27:55 PM

If the possibility of changing these abortion laws is so remote then why do the reps play football with this issue?


its not as remote as pple think. all the GOP has to do(if elected POTUS) is appoint 2 ultra conservative SCotus judges, and R vs W can be put back on the table.
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 589
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 9:01:17 PM
State Machine

Yes, it does take two to make a baby, but it sure is interesting that the bulk of single-parent households are overwhelmingly headed by single mothers. In addition, it should be noted that single-mother households make up about 80% of the poverty in the U.S. (If I may quote Democratic Senator Evan Bayh from a speech on the issue that he made on the floor of the Senate). Based upon a study done by the University of Wisconsin, women who raise children alone for more than ten years are 55% more likely to live in poverty in their retirement years. In addition, when a woman has a child with a man outside of wedlock, the likelihood that the father will be involved in that child's life is less than 25%. If the "baby-daddy" is in the child's life, it is more likely that he will do so if the child is a boy. In fact, even in divorce, fathers are more likely to maintain a relationship with a son than a daughter.

Yeah, I've been robbed several times. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be sure to only go out during the day light hours, because, after all, if I get robbed it would be my fault. Women just shouldn't go out at night unless escorted by a male relative. Thanks for the advice, Torvald...or is it Alec d'Ubervilles?

...And as far as an idiot from the 'burb comment goes...lol...I suppose that little dig was really directed at me since I live in the 'burbs..I guess the subtle insult was really some under handed way of calling me a hick or something...just a suggestion, you probably shouldn't make assumptions about people based upon where they live, but then again, you are a Democrat...and Democrats are very much into value judgments, pedigrees, college affiliations, and designer zip codes...but FYI, I was living in San Francisco at the time that I was once mistaken as being "the receptionist"...and I have been asked to get a cup of coffee on more than a few occasions...once, while living and working in Manhattan, once while living and working in Los Angeles, and yes, when I was once living and working in Chicago - multiple times there, btw. I'll leave out the personal anecdotes of female friends, co-workers, and female family members...

As far as men's so-called "viewpoint" on abortion...yeah, you can have a viewpoint, but please don't presume that you speak for or understand women's viewpoint...and please, don't preach to us about it...because your advocacy just comes across as awfully convenient...I am glad that you have known women that were "about to have an abortion"... I am sure you have friends that are women, too...yawn...

Why do some Republicans want to repeal abortion or make it an issue? Well, I suppose it is because some of them are pro-life. And yes, they are single issue voters that would not vote for a candidate if he or she was not pro-life. I am glad that they feel good about voting for all those pro-life presidents that did nothing to make abortion illegal - oh yeah...the president can't do that...
 larissan04
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 590
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Posted: 10/21/2012 9:13:05 PM
Yule -

It's not that easy to do. First of all, justices don't just willy-nilly vote to overturn long standing legal precedent. In addition, any appointments for the SCOTUS have to go through the Senate. Even if a president appoints someone that he thinks is of a certain ideology politically, this is no guarantee as to how the person will vote once on the court. Stevens and Kennedy were appointed by Republicans, and they were hardly "conservative." Sandra Day O'Connor, once considered the big swing voter on the court and a "moderate," was appointed by that "right wing nut" Ronald Reagan (who coincidentally, signed the first pro abortion law in the nation while governor of California). If you look at Chief Justice Roberts' decision on the healthcare bill, he made it quite clear that it is NOT the job of the court to "legislate from the bench." I would even contend that this supposedly staunchly conservative judge would come to the same conclusion on any challenge to Roe vs. Wade, that it is the responsibility of the voters to decide this matter. So yeah, in short, the whole issue is used by Democrats to create fear and manipulate the uninformed one-issue voter. It's a red herring!
 Still_Dreaming_in_sc
Joined: 9/10/2012
Msg: 591
The War on Women
Posted: 10/21/2012 9:14:49 PM

I also want to add that as a woman, I find it insulting, disingenuous, and down right galling to listen to men blather on about abortion or women's rights. You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?"


You will never know what it is like to not even be asked at all. I was not even going to participate in this thread because nothing good ever comes from these types of discussions. How about the fact that most women are not even told the truth. Most women I know or have known go through their whole life thinking they have the power to create life within them. The fact of the matter is.. NO THEY DON'T! There is nothing inside of them that is life creating. A male CREATES sperm. that is one part of what is required. The female does NOT create eggs. The gender of the fetus is decided by the males sperm and has the creation within it to produce the eggs if it is a female fetus.

You get 3 million eggs that are all there right from the start that lasts you your whole breeding cycle. The male continues to create more sperm each time it is needed. The fallopian tubes and womb are containment vessel and an incubator. No creation taking place in either of them.

But you will not see this material listed and explained in any health class since for young women it may make them feel less valuable.

My personal stance... That the father (aka the actual one capable of creating a fetus should be consulted BEFORE any abortion is done. ) The problem is that there is no easy way to discover who that is except for asking the woman who impregnated her. There are ways to extract DNA from the fetus without harming the female or baby and testing could be done but without a database of samples to compare it to it would do no good unless it is just to confirm information the female has given.


And for the record, no, I am not falling for the marketing angle that is this so-called war on women. It is nothing but a complete joke.


You are correct. It is a joke. There is no war on women not in the US at least. We cherish our women and almost everything that was done building this country was done for the women in this country. Truth is women have more rights than men in this country. More laws on the books for women's protections than men. More products are created for women than men so that women have more choices. More tax breaks for women than men in the business segments of society.

In the entertainment industry... More programing choices aimed at the female audience.

In the help sections of society and social services industries. More women are employed in those sectors than man AND there are more services available to women than men.

In the education industry. More grants, scholarships and assistance with books and school supplies for women than men. That is not counting the stuff that is not gender specific I am referring to the ones that list female as the requirement. (but that is not discrimination which is allowed to discriminate in those types of things)

If you think there is a war on women in this country then you are clearly in the wrong circle of friends and feeding yourself with the wrong materials. There is no war on women. You as a woman are cherished and protected just as much if not more now than you ever have been even though many like to think they can handle themselves just fine.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 592
The War on Women
Posted: 10/22/2012 2:41:29 AM
I would even contend that this supposedly staunchly conservative judge would come to the same conclusion on any challenge to Roe vs. Wade, that it is the responsibility of the voters to decide this matter. So yeah, in short, the whole issue is used by Democrats to create fear and manipulate the uninformed one-issue voter. It's a red herring!


As our resident convinient constitutionalist would point out that the states have the right, currently under R v. W, to restrict access to abortion, but not to outlaw abortion all together...therefore we've seen an unprecedented effort by those red GOP controlled stated, thru thousands of bills, to restrict abortion access. These very same republigants, in addition, are legislating away a womans access to contraception in an attempt to limit a woman's control over her reproductive health (of course, not so for the little blue pill)....the battleground, as I see it, will not be the overturning of R v W...but, will be the increase pressure of the states to pass such laws as personhood and the like (with perhaps murder charges on women who abort)...with SCOTUS putting a republigant rubber stamp of approval on such measures.

The GOP answer is to place more concern about the potential life my sperm and an egg hold rather that protect and care for the live child...why else would the GOP wish to remove healthcare for impoverished children, do away with school lunches, remove funding for public education???

Just one question...are there any tuypo's you wish to point out to debunk my argument?
 OutofControlMan
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 593
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Posted: 10/22/2012 4:39:57 AM

You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?" You will never ever know what it is like to be in a position of authority or in a senior position and have someone ask you to get him a cup of coffee, or mistake you for the receptionist. You will never know what it is like to have a man treat you like a slut simply because you had sex with him "too soon" (which is purely an arbitrary "date" and differs from man to man, which makes dating all the more harrowing for a single woman). You will never know what it is like to be called a slut, whore, or****simply because you refused a man's advances, either. You will never know what it feels like to be afraid walking across a dark parking lot at night, and you will never know what it is like to feel nervous when you hear footsteps behind you as you walk down a dark lonely street.


nice rant, but..
You will never know what it feels like to be afraid walking across a dark parking lot at night, and you will never know what it is like to feel nervous when you hear footsteps behind you as you walk down a dark lonely street.


really? so men don't get mugged, shot &/or stabbed in dark parking lots, or on dark lonely streets and never need feel , or feel nervous, there?

you as a woman will never know what it is like to have to wonder "is it mine? "

you most importantly as a woman will never know what it is like to be assumed you are a pedophile and sexual predator if you are alone and within 50 feet of a child who crosses you path as single men often are assumed to be.

*I* have been assumed to be a more junior person and asked to go get something based on (a) younger age , and (b) dressing in more 'work' type clothing, not a suit & tie, when at work
you will never know what it is like to have a woman treat you as a walking wallet or ATM simply because you are male.

you will never know what is it is like to have a woman scream "are you a fvcking f*aggot?" if you decline a sexual advance from her, don't feel like it when she does, or feel it's too soon, or simply are not sexually attracted to her; then have her spread rumors about you being gay among friends & co-workers.
see women have the absolute power to choose the time date & place..if she wants to and the guy doesn't then he is a 'fag'.
because all men are assumed to be panting dogs in heat just waiting for her to snap her fingers. but if he wants to and she doesn't (or pretends not to) -whoa, he is likely a rapist.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 594
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Posted: 10/22/2012 7:39:52 AM
Welcome to Equality.

We have and always will treat everyone like crap... equally.
 MacInOC
Joined: 2/19/2012
Msg: 595
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Posted: 10/22/2012 7:48:10 AM

I also want to add that as a woman, I find it insulting, disingenuous, and down right galling to listen to men blather on about abortion or women's rights. You will never ever know what it is like to be a woman and face a decision of this magnitude (having an abortion) and you will never know what it is like to be asked, "are you sure it's mine?"


So because we men have no legal abortion choice and don't know how it feels to be a woman, we are not allowed to have an opinions or feelings about the children we conceive being aborted or not?

You'll never know what it's like to be a man and have your conceived child's future completely out of your hands and fate decided for you. So is your point that you're not a man and I'm not a woman?
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 596
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Posted: 10/22/2012 8:17:05 AM
There is a war on women and it is Republicans that are initiating it.


In 1992, the Supreme Court, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, upheld women’s constitutional right to abortion services, but allowed certain leeway in placing restrictions on access to reproductive healthcare. Since then, right-wing politicians have increasingly pushed through state laws meant to chip away at the right to choose and undermine the protections of Roe v. Wade. These state-level draconian proposals are intended to cripple the ability of women to access reproductive health services. Burdensome waiting periods and parental notification requirements have been passed throughout the country, and now anti-choice activists are increasingly turning to new ways to undercut women’s healthcare and constitutionally protected liberties.

Following the 2010 elections, more state legislatures have become hostile to choice. Their efforts to undermine reproductive rights include ultrasound requirements that impose callous and cruel psychological pressure on women who have made the decision to terminate their pregnancies; targeted restrictions on abortion providers (TRAP laws), which levy unnecessary regulations against clinics that could force many to close; and constraints on abortions supposedly sought because of the “race and gender” of the fetus. Some states are even considering legislation that could legalize the murderof abortion providers.

Not only are radical state legislators threatening the ability of women to gain access to reproductive health services, but they are also testing the boundaries of both Roe and Casey. States are now weighing laws that challenge well-accepted medical research, banning abortions in the second trimester under the guise of “fetal pain” and even in the first trimester at the detection of a fetus’s heartbeat. Among the most radical measures being considered are “personhood” laws, which would declare zygotes and fetuses fully legal persons completely separate from their mothers. Once at the extreme fringe of the anti-choice movement, personhood laws now have a chance at passing in a number of states and could lead to new challenges to Roe v. Wade. Along with the attacks on choice and women’s healthcare coming from the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, these new and dangerous laws emerging from the states put women’s healthcare and reproductive freedom at grave risk.
Ultrasound Requirements

Legislation that would require doctors to perform ultrasounds on all women seeking abortions, even when not medically necessary, has been introduced in states including Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Wyoming. Ultrasound requirements are widely acknowledged to be medically unnecessary attempts to place psychological pressure on women who have decided to seek abortions.

Such requirements also risk actively harming the fetus, according to the Association of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. According to the Houston Chronicle, the association warned that if they use the sonogram in the manner described [by the Texas ultrasound bill], the prolonged exposure to ultrasound waves could hurt the woman or damage the fetus.” The Guttmacher Institute notes that “since routine ultrasound is not considered medically necessary as a component of first-trimester abortion, the requirements appear to be a veiled attempt to personify the fetus and dissuade a woman from obtaining an abortion.”

The Texas House and Senate recently passed a bill that would require women to undergo ultrasounds at least 24 hours before having an abortion. In the majority of cases, a woman would be forced to hear a detailed description of the scan. Gov. Rick Perry has fast-tracked the legislation through the Republican-controlled legislature, declaring it an “emergency priority.” Sen. Dan Patrick, the bill’s author, recently declared, “This is God’s time to pass this bill.”

Florida’s GOP-led state legislature passed an ultrasound-requirement bill last year only to have it vetoed by then-Governor Charlie Crist, who said it “places an inappropriate burden on women seeking to terminate pregnancy” and “unwisely expand[s] the role of government.” The bill’s sponsors are planning to reintroduce it this year. If passed, the ultrasound bill will most likely be signed by newly elected Republican Gov. Rick Scott, who condemned Crist’s veto of the bill during his campaign last year.

http://www.pfaw.org/media-center/publications/gop-takes-its-war-women-states
 OutofControlMan
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 597
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Posted: 10/22/2012 8:39:24 AM
try going to Afghanistan or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, or Malaysia, among other places, to see an ACTUAL 'war on women', not a contrived, artificial one to feed your whine-fest, sense of 'victim-hood', and help y'all feel miserable and sorry for yourselves..
women in North America now outnumber men in all the professional schools except engineering..in medical, law, etc, there are more women than men in some cases substantially so, especially in law schools

in Afghanistan girls are lucky to be able to get through primary school, why don't you try helping them rather than whining about your poor, sorry (largely imaginary) lot over here?
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 598
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Posted: 10/22/2012 9:57:40 AM
If you feel that the injustice in those countries are important enough to warrant attention then perhaps you should go there and help out. You seem to be young and full of energy, opinionated, and concerned. All good qualities that would be welcomed, I'm sure.

However, we are speaking of the US presently and while Obamacare may be a start, it has not started yet, exception preexisting coverage is in effect now and student coverage. You might need to do some research if you want to understand why I'm concerned about American women and especially those living in Republican stronghold areas such as Texas before you continue to give your lecture to someone who has sons your age.
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 599
The War on Women
Posted: 10/22/2012 11:09:22 AM
war on women? by women do you mean abortion?it seems like liberals have reduced women to creatures only concerned with sex and abortion...
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 600
The War on Women
Posted: 10/22/2012 2:52:47 PM

war on women? by women do you mean abortion?...

No, they are talking about politicians that are attempting to pass legislation that limits and or controls women.




...it seems like liberals have reduced women to creatures only concerned with sex and abortion...

It seems like you have run out of talking points so now you are just posting ramblings which have no point or purpose other than to prove you really have no idea what you are talking about.
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