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 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 51
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@ Nr 62 ...


" ... It must be nice to be so smug, ergo you took "astounded" as a compliment. I enjoy the way you guys blow by facts(nothing penetrates the bubble) about the amount of voter fraud seen in the last few elections WITHOUT your new voter ID laws. Or the obvious cheap shots, about illegals voting. Yeah they sit around all day trying to figure out how to vote, game the system! hahahahaha!! Yeah making $50 a day allows you so much time to concern yourself with things other than food, a place to sleep and hiding from immigration. ... "


Wow.

Does being as rich as you claim to be automatically entitle you to such condescension? Musta been tough leaving BubbleWorld ...
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 52
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:24:23 PM

It' fascinating to see, so many can judge some people without ID..or those who need a new format ID to vote. Because it doesn't resonate with your lifestyle, doesn't mean it doesn't happen or exist today.


It is you that are judging them as inept! Don't you get it? Take off the super hero costume. I will say that at least the super hero complex is fairly consistent across multiple themes. Everybody and Everything must be SAVED! Hallelujah... Conversion to leftism. Praise be {insert random molecule name here}

I understand why you don't see it as a religion. Do you?
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
Msg: 53
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:36:16 PM
This brazen attempt to trample the right of poor minorities to vote is just one more violation of that SUPPOSEDLY fundamental constitutional right.

It's truly shameful that ever since the sorry day this evil, warmongering, bigoted country (no wonder the rest of the world hates us!) began, CHILDREN have not had the vote. Sure, Amerikka lowered the age to 18. Big deal. And they had to amend the constitution even to do THAT much.

Anyway, everyone knows that was just a meaningless sop to make it LOOK like this was the "land of the free," so the power structure could go right on oppressing millions of people. It's a sick joke to claim this is a free country, until that glorious day, and I hope it comes soon, when EVERY American, no matter HOW young, can go to the polls, cast his or her vote, and get free candy on the way out!
 Kohavah
Joined: 3/14/2012
Msg: 54
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 1:39:21 PM
When it comes to voting. I preach abstinance.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 55
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 1:46:58 PM
Humm the new laws which mirror a couple of states that has had them for years, look like they just make sure the person voting is a legal voter.

There is no vast right wing conspiracy to stop democrats from voting just to stop people from voting that don't have that right.

You know like the millions of illegal immigrants that the democrats want to keep voting so they can retain power.

Seems to me the laws would help the integrity of any election.

I mean we wouldn't want the illegal's to break our Country's laws would we?
 RushLuv
Joined: 4/16/2009
Msg: 56
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 2:30:09 PM

As far as the cost of chasing down documents to obtain an ID, I call Bull Sh1t


I don't know why. Every state has their own laws, rules and regulations. I can come up with few reasons why US citizens may not have a valid photo ID.

1. Too lazy to get one
2. Struggling to obtain one.
3. Their photo ID was revoked or suspended

Feel free to add in.


All the documents were GIVEN to a person at one point in time.


Important documents can also get lost, or stolen.


They deserve to pay the small fees to obtain them.


I live in California. I don't consider paying $20-$22 for a birth certificate replacement, and $31-$35 for a Driver License a "small fee." The article even states that a birth certificate in Texas, is $22 and a passport $145. These aren't small fees in the least, well, not to those living in poverty anyway.
 Kohavah
Joined: 3/14/2012
Msg: 57
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 2:53:59 PM
The poor shouldn't be voting anyway. It's not their money that is at stake. What property do they have to tax?
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 58
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 3:22:25 PM
@ Nr 71 ...


" ... I don't know why. Every state has their own laws, rules and regulations. I can come up with few reasons why US citizens may not have a valid photo ID.

1. Too lazy to get one
2. Struggling to obtain one.
3. Their photo ID was revoked or suspended

Feel free to add in. ... "


Blind. Crippled. Crazy. Imprisoned. Psychotic. Dead. (they vote, you know) ... Should I keep going ... ?


" ... Important documents can also get lost, or stolen. . ... "


That's why they can be REPLACED. There. Wasn't that easy ... ?


" ... I live in California. I don't consider paying $20-$22 for a birth certificate replacement, and $31-$35 for a Driver License a "small fee." The article even states that a birth certificate in Texas, is $22 and a passport $145. These aren't small fees in the least, well, not to those living in poverty anyway. ... "


Umm - just how much need does someone 'living in poverty' have for a passport? When should we plan to start the Pity Party ... ? You live in CA. Did someone MAKE you live there? Or force you to stay there? You can leave if you don't like it, you know. Your state is bankrupt because of the Socialist policies the voters there have elected people to enact on their behalf. That's the 'indirect democracy' thing at work - people elect people who will do their will - at least, that's the theory. That's also what put CA in the shape it's in. Gov. Moonbeam isn't any better this time around than when he refused to spray malathion to combat the fruit fly infestation. Point is, ain't nothin' free in this life. When I had to replace my birth certificate after Hurricane Katrina, Vital Records in New Orleans charged me $60 for the privilege of proving who I am. You complain about $22? That's chump change. Things cost what they cost. If people choose to not pay, they also choose to not play. I'm down with that.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 59
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 3:23:11 PM

So Mr. Howdy Doody hasn't expanded, spent more................... If you don't want to fall into the hypocrisy lake, at least you could have acknowledged that the left has done more than their fair share of spending................ but, why bother. Further, you WEREN'T complaining about the increase in size of govt? So then would it be fair to say that you have no problem with the increase in the size of govt, most of which occured during the first two years of Mr. Howdy Doody's reign, when he had BOTH sides of congress on his side?


Got it.




Glad you got it...here's more that you might not get:



Much of that increase has come from mandatory spending, including Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. Those programs have expanded mostly because of the recession, which has prompted more people to apply for Medicaid and Social Security, as well as the growth in people hitting retirement age.

"How much do you lay at the recession's feet versus the president's policies?" said Josh Gordon, policy director at the Concord Coalition, a fiscal policy group. "The aging of the population can't be blamed on the president."

Many safety net programs, such as Medicaid and food stamps, automatically expand during economic downturns. And in the face of prolonged high jobless rates, Congress has authorized extending federal unemployment benefits to a record 99 weeks. The initial extension was passed under President Bush.

The conservative Heritage Foundation, which advocates for a reduced government role in society, acknowledges that much of the increase in federal spending originates in laws passed by this Congress and previous ones

The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.

Much of the hiring increases came in the departments of homeland security, justice, veterans and defense.

The federal payroll has been expanding since President Bush took office, after declining during the Clinton administration. But it's still a tad smaller than it was in 1992

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news/economy/obama_government/index.htm



Hmmmm....voting a fundamental right???



September 27, 2011


The Fundamental Right


The right to vote is sometimes said to be the most fundamental in American democracy. Yet legal challenges to the federal voting rights law are increasing even as they highlight the racial injustices that make it essential.

In a ruling last week, Judge John Bates of Federal District Court rightly dismissed such a challenge by Shelby County, Ala., which sought to have a central part of the law declared unconstitutional.

That provision, Section 5, requires states and local governments with histories of racial discrimination to obtain “preclearance” of any changes in local voting rules with the Justice Department or a federal court. Because it was common for jurisdictions to adopt new discriminatory practices after a court struck down old ones, the 1965 Voting Rights Act required the “covered” jurisdictions — six Southern states, and other counties and cities around the country — to show that any proposed rule change would not discriminate against minorities. Congress renewed Section 5 in 2006.

Shelby County, near Birmingham, challenged the preclearance requirement, contending that “it is no longer constitutionally justifiable for Congress to arbitrarily impose” the “disfavored treatment” of having to obtain prior approval from a federal authority. Judge Bates, however, found that, despite Section 5’s effectiveness in combating discrimination, Congress was right to conclude that racism in voting systems continues to this day.

When Congress reauthorized the provision in 2006, he wrote, it found that “40 years has not been a sufficient amount of time to eliminate the vestiges of discrimination following nearly 100 years of disregard” for what the Constitution requires.

The covered jurisdictions remain riddled with intentional discrimination. And there would be even more violations without the deterrent effect of Section 5 and the opportunity that preclearance gives the Justice Department to say no to harmful plans of state and local governments.

The 151-page opinion by Judge Bates, a George W. Bush appointee, is the first major decision on Section 5 since a narrow 2009 Supreme Court case addressed this issue without ruling on the provision’s constitutionality. The judge’s carefully applied analysis, relying on principles set forth by the Supreme Court, provides a model for other courts faced with similar legal challenges.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/opinion/the-fundamental-right.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 60
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:08:55 PM

So, exactly how much does an ID cost in the 50 States? Not a DL, mind you, just a basic ID card

Alabama – $23
Alaska – Under 60 is $15, over 60 is free
Arizona – $12. Over 65 is free
Arkansas – $10
California – $23. Free for those over 62. $7 for low income folks
Colorado – $10.50. Free for those over 60
Connecticut – $15
Delaware -$5
Florida – $3 whole friggin’ dollars!!!!!!
Georgia -$20 for 5 years, $35 for $10 years
Hawaii – $15 for under 65, $10 for over 65
Idaho – $7.50. Renewals can even be done by mail
Illinois – $20, free for seniors over 65with no renewal necessary
Indiana – $13 under 65, $10 for over 65, last for 6 years, which is the state this whole kerfuffle is over
Iowa – $5
Kansas – $18 under 65, $14 over 65
Kentucky – $12
Louisiana – Average $21, free for over 60
Maine – $5
Maryland – $15, free for those over 65
Massachusetts – $15
Michigan – $10, free for seniors. Oh, and those with mental impairments (hint, hint)
Minnesota – $15.50, $10.75 for those 65 and up
Mississippi – $13
Missouri – $11
Montana – $8
Nebraska – $23.75 (lots of different fees for those under 21)
Nevada – $11.25. For 65 and up, new is $6.25, renewal is $2.25
New Hampshire – haven’t been able to find the cost, even at the New Hampshire DMV or New Hampshire’s main site
New Jersey – $24
New Mexico – $5 for 5 years, $8 for 10 years
New York – Depending on length, $9 to $14. 62 and up, $6.50
North Carolina – $10
North Dakota – $8
Ohio – $8.50
Oklahoma – $10
Oregon – $29 for 8 years
Pennsylvania – $10, and they make it really, really easy
Rhode Island – $15, free for 59 and up
South Carolina – $5
South Dakota – $8
Tennessee – $12.50. For those 65 and up, they never expire
Texas – $15. 60 and up, $5 and never has to be renewed
Utah – $18. Never expires for those 65 and up
Vermont – $15, $10 if you get Social Security Income
Virginia – $10
Washington – $20
West Virginia – can’t find an actual figure
Wisconsin – $28 for eight years
Wyoming – $10, never expires
Washington, D.C. – How much you got? In reality, $20. Cannot trade your Tech-9 for one, either.
Note: except where noted, most ID’s are good for generally 4-5 years a pop. And this info surely doesn’t completely cover if there are more provisions for Seniors and low income people. Just what I could find quick.


http://www.thepiratescove.us/2008/04/28/what-does-a-state-id-cost/

So the highest price state ID is $29.00 for 8 years that is a staggering 3.62 dollars a year for a ID!

I can see where that would exclude anyone that can't pick up change dropped on the ground or move the couch cushions you get the change in there.....or how about cleaning out the dryer found over $30.00 in mine once!

So now that the cost of a ID is less than what you find doing laundry in a month remind me just how this disfranchises the poor?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 61
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:22:22 PM
Well, when one googles some craype from some website and doesn't verify the info they post...then all they've posted is craype...in connecticut the state ID costs $22.50 and must be applied for and paid for at the DMV...the cost is not $15
http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/id-cards.php

And when one comes to the DMV here...they get in line to get a number to get in line...and someone getting a state ID...pays in the second line and goes to a third line...the picture line...therefore, one can expect to be at the DMV for 2 hours...and of course...with the economic mess left to us by former President Bush...DMV's are closing and reducing hours...so good luck with all that.

Then we are a democrat leaning state...so, the concept of voter identification is foreign to us.
 cap_n_mORGAN
Joined: 7/3/2009
Msg: 62
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:37:10 PM

Well, when one googles some craype from some website and doesn't verify the info they post...then all they've posted is craype...in connecticut the state ID costs $22.50 and must be applied for and paid for at the DMV...the cost is not $15
http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/id-cards.php


Well lets see just what the yearly cost is for that $22.50 is.....Even if the card is only good for one year its daily cost would be $0.o6164 per year if it is good for the same 4 year period a drivers license is the cost plummets to $0.01541

So you can still find more than that in the laundry in a months time.

Again how does that disfranchise the poor as the left claims?

(ps) the info could have been accurate at the time since obozo has hiked the cost of most everything surly you realize cost do go up even if it is a fraction of a cent a day!

Get real people, the IDs are a good idea it insures only people that are legal to vote does. Surly the dems doesn't want to win an election with illegal votes!
 RushLuv
Joined: 4/16/2009
Msg: 63
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:38:49 PM
You can leave if you don't like it, you know.


I like the Golden state just fine.


You complain about $22? That's chump change.


It maybe chump change to YOU. However, for those that have to scrap for pennies day after day, it is not.


The poor shouldn't be voting anyway. It's not their money that is at stake. What property do they have to tax?


Oh I get it now. So this is why the GOP decided to instate these laws. The poor has nothing to offer. Geez. Why didn't I think of that one? I'm glad that's out of the way.

 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 64
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:43:39 PM
@ Nr 75 ...


" ... What a true democracy should be striving for is getting more people to vote, not fewer. But then again a lot of Republicans really don't have much respect for democracy. The idea that the poor may want to take part in the electoral process doesn't sit well with them. ... "


Umm, not so much. A 'true democracy' is NOT what we have in the United States. We are a Constitutional republic, not a 'democracy'. As Franklin said when asked by a lady what kind of government the Founding Fathers had given us: " A republic, madam, if you can keep it." We are well down the road to becoming the 'democracy' you dream of - unfortunately.

If 'democratic voting' were to mean anything at all, it would only be in the Jeffersonian sense of 'democracy'. Under Jefferson's concept, the privilege of the vote would be granted only to those who successfully completed a term of military service with an honorable discharge. Oh. You want to know 'Why?', right? Because those people would be the ones who successfully demonstrated the capacity to put the welfare of all before their own private welfare. Those who did not perform military service would still have all the rights of citizenship - except the right of the vote.

The reason so many cities today have exorbitant tax structures when it comes to the property tax is because many of those who voted to impose the new tax(-es) do NOT own property - they rent. They have no stake in it - or so they believe. They fail to understand that the owner of the property will merely pass the tax down to them in the form of increased rent. If people who don't own property can vote on the taxes paid by those who do own property, the owners will never have their property taxed at a fair or equitable rate. The present scheme that allows non-property-owners to vote on taxes they feel will never impact them (despite the fact they're wrong) is a clear and present case of discrimination against property owners by non-property owners ... but since they have the 'right to vote' under our present descent into 'democracy', we should just accept that and agree it's 'fair'. I mean, they can vote, right ... ?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 65
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 4:45:23 PM

Surly the dems doesn't want to win an election with illegal votes!


No surly is your attitude when proved wrong.


the info could have been accurate at the time since obozo has hiked the cost of most everything surly you realize cost do go up even if it is a fraction of a cent a day


Nope it was $22.50 when Bush was pres
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 66
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/19/2012 7:01:06 PM
@ Nr 82 ...

And THIS ( http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf } is your SOURCE ... ? Why am I not surprised? This is the William J. Brennan Center for Justice, Inc. - it happens to be a SOROS-funded operation, but then, we all know how 'impartial' George Soros is, don't we? In case you haven't done your research, here's just a bit of what Soros does to keep Brennan alive and subverting our nation ... he can't afford to give up a 'golden goose' like Brennan when it hatches so many 'golden eggs' for him ... this is exactly in line with the Socialist philosophy extant in the White House now ... and you cite this 'instititution' as a 'source' ... go figure ...

http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10/william-j-brennan-center-for-justice-inc.html

William J. Brennan Center for Justice, Inc.

Grantee: William J. Brennan Center for Justice, Inc. ?
Ranking: 19th highest grantee, 2005 – 2009?
Received: $4,571,000?
Type: Public Policy and Law Institute?
Issues: Campaign Finance Reform, Racial Justice, Criminal Law

About: The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law proudly describes itself as “a singular institution” for its combination of advocacy, research, lobbying, and direct legal action. This hybrid think-tank and public interest law firm openly advocates for left-wing causes while presenting itself as a “non-partisan” and scholarly entity and drawing on the institutional support of a law school.

Brennan Center activism ranges from filing amicus briefs and providing counsel in controversial cases, to producing biased research and testimony, to lending support to or directly organizing advocacy groups.

Soros’s “Open Society” ambitions are demonstrated throughout the Brennan Center’s ideological priorities:

Voter Empowerment:  The Brennan Center has taken a lead in opposing voter I.D. laws; promoting the right of felons to vote, and reforming redistricting in ways that “defend minority civil rights” and the Voting Rights Act.  Claiming that Florida’s H.B. 1355 will restrict the ability of blacks and Hispanics to register and exercise their right to vote, the Brennan Center is representing the radical group La Raza and others in legal challenges to the law.

Campaign Finance Reform: The Center is leading both legal and activist challenges to the Citizens United decision.  It advocates for public funding for judicial and other campaigns.

Racial Justice: The Center supports “increased racial and gender diversity on the bench”; produces research to support claims of racial profiling and discrimination, and lobbies against purported racial disparities in policing and prosecution.

Poverty Activism: The Center has represented A.C.O.R.N. in legal battles to impose “Living Wage” laws; tried to end fees and fines for low-income convicts, and lobbies for increases in public spending on and ever-widening range of legal services.

Opposing National Security Measures: The Center’s Liberty and National Security Program opposes anti-terrorism security measures put into place by the federal government and the N.Y.P.D. following 9/11.

Building Activist Networks: The Center’s vaguely named Community Oriented Defender Network, a coalition of public defenders and community groups, opposes legislative restrictions designed to restrict the use of public funding to subsidize activism and lobbying by public defenders and other “offender services” providers.  The CODN argues that any “holistic” interpretation of criminal defense must necessarily include funding to lobby for “racial justice,” increased resources for offenders, and for reducing financial and legal consequences for crimes

The CODN is one building-block in the growing field of “re-entry” services, a priority of the Holder Justice Department.  The CODN is modeled directly on Open Society strategies for maximizing public funding for partisan activism aimed at increasing the tax burdens and growing bureaucracies.

The Brennan Center’s affiliation with New York University School of Law typifies the extreme political double standard practiced by academics who loudly denounce educational endowments from conservatives while accepting funding — and even subsidies for direct action — from wealthy leftists for the promotion of openly leftist causes through the universities.
 Worbug
Joined: 4/23/2009
Msg: 67
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Posted: 3/19/2012 7:05:08 PM
Rush, you keep using your poverty level as an excuse for a person to not be able to afford an ID. Well you are on the computer quite a bit. Maybe if you skip a month of internet service would do the job. An without the internet, you would most likely have time on your hands again to do something productive to get out of the poverty level.

I do not think it is the reasonable price of the ID for the lack of one, I believe like I and others have stated above, it's laziness, illegal, wanted by the law, or just want to be under the radar.
Everybody wants to blame "The Man" for everything. Everything has to hace some sort of evil to it.

It's just an ID for crying out loud. But how dare they enact something that cost up to 2 Hours of your life at the DMV every 8 years. Be willing to bet, most of these people spend more than 2 hours a day on the internet.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 68
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Posted: 3/19/2012 7:17:23 PM

"The Bush administration launched a multi year investigation into voter fraud but found no evidence that it is a pervasive or serious problem."


Another hypocritical usage. BUSH IS THE ONE THAT WAS ACCUSED OF FRAUD!!!! So somehow in the twisted use anything to support your cause regardless of its irrationality you are accepting the report of the one that supposedly committed the act. That is like agreeing with Bush that there were WMD's right?
 MondoVman
Joined: 4/26/2009
Msg: 69
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New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 12:35:37 AM
By all the voter id gods, not excluding the irish people's little Chryste, STOP arguing the id claims of these incessantly lamenting, hand-wringing unconsolables.

These UCs, you see, not only know they are righteous, but have most thoroughly, most swell and most swole proven themselves fully aware that their collective has been properly screwed by the American political system.

Therehence by the blasphemous almighty irish Chryste, let any in opposition who choose withdraw from presenting further real truths for now, thereby granting the UCs the time and space they desire to salve the gaping open sores indirectly inflicted upon them by the lawfully elected.

Meh. So say I.
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 70
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 3:57:43 AM
Ok then since you don't want to insure that only Citizens vote..How bout we enforce our Immigration laws? You guys can preach all you want about disenfranchisement and what not but the truth is when people want things they make it happen...getting ID may be an inconvenience and some trouble for some..but the States have offered free assistance for those cases...what percentage of actual voters who are Citizens will really be affected by Voter ID laws?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 71
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 5:48:02 AM

It's just an ID for crying out loud. But how dare they enact something that cost up to 2 Hours of your life at the DMV every 8 years. Be willing to bet, most of these people spend more than 2 hours a day on the internet.

You would be willing to bet that people who can not afford an ID spend more than 2hrs a day on the internet?

I would like to take you up on that bet.

Because if you can not see how stupid that statement is, Congratulations on your fail.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 72
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 6:40:31 AM
Ok then since you don't want to insure that only Citizens vote..How bout we enforce our Immigration laws?..

Because basic understanding of economics would show that your country would be broke and in a huge mess in 6 months to a year if all the illegals where removed.





 RushLuv
Joined: 4/16/2009
Msg: 73
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 9:23:48 AM
And what is your personal vendette against poverty, workbug? You and others act as if it is not possible to not be able to afford ID. There are difficulties, and just because you don't see them, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

While I agree that laziness could be one of the factors behind some US citizens not having a photo ID, there are other factors contributing to that.

For the lazy one's who may not care to have photo ID, may just be the one's who also don't participate in voting. At the end of the day, not having a valid ID is not the real reason behind the GOP new laws.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 74
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Posted: 3/20/2012 9:35:28 AM

not having a valid ID is not the real reason behind the GOP new laws


You are correct. The real reason behind the new laws is so that when someone makes the declaration, "VOTER FRAUD" there is some level of effort already in place to help assure that ballots cast were valid. Unlike closing eyes and pressing the 'easy button' or the ever popular, "trust me."
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 75
New ID voter law?
Posted: 3/20/2012 10:15:24 AM
@ Nr 93 ...


" ... not having a valid ID is not the real reason behind the GOP new laws. ... "


Right, right, right ... right on. It's ALL the fault of those damned Republicans. Having a valid ID is SOOOOOOOO '1999' ... it's so much easier if people can just walk into a polling place, say they don't have an ID but they want to vote and they're a Democrat but they've never found time to register in the fifty-something years they've been alive and they've now seen the error of their ways and sincerely desire to participate in the political process so they can do their 'civic duty'. Believe that ... ? Why, of course you do. Can you - or any liberal - imagine the crucifixion scene that would have taken place at the polling place in PA had the individual dressed in combat boots, beret, and baton been a WHITE REPUBLICAN ... ? God forbid. Perish the thought. That would have been 'disenfranchisement'. That would have been 'voter intimidation'. But since that's not what happened in real life, it's all okay and Holder's 'justice department' has dismissed the adjudicated guilty verdict against the perps. I wonder if the Black Panther had a valid photo ID on him ... ? Prolly not. The baton was his ID ...
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