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 gemini_lady_uk
Joined: 7/16/2008
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Cinders, I said similar to you. IF she was filling a jerry can because of a government minister suggesting it then he has to shoulder blame. Of course, she was an imbecile for transferring fuel inside her house, particularly a kitchen of all places but I don't believe the message to fill cans was accompanied by Health & Safety advice and some people just are not aware of risks like that.

And I still think he should resign or be forced out for being the driving force behind the panic and shortages that were totally unnecessary.
 Marquis_de_Michaelmas
Joined: 10/23/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:40:50 AM
The previous Labour government attempted to introduce a central, government-run database of everyone's phone calls and emails, but eventually dropped the bid after widespread anger.
 try1more
Joined: 12/16/2007
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Posted: 4/1/2012 7:26:18 AM
whats new?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/ECHELON/echelon.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000

misuse
http://topnews.co.uk/25218-councils-misusing-ripa-powers

if it can be done it will be done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_Watch

http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/

"This afternoon Oxford Nicola Blackwood, MP for Oxford West and Abingdon, has joined Big Brother Watch in urging Oxford City Council to suspend their scheme to install CCTV cameras in all new taxis from 1 April."

april fools joke?
 Marquis_de_Michaelmas
Joined: 10/23/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2012 10:10:11 AM
Sadly if you still believe in working, middle and upper class you are living in another century.

All current classifications used by all pollsters and surveys are income and work related.

Higher Professional and Managerial workers A
Lower Managerial and Professional workers B
Intermediate occupations C1 and C2
Small Employers and non professional self-employed C1 and C2
Lower Supervisory and technical C1 and C2
Semi Routine Occupations D
Routine Occupations D
Long term unemployed E

Power to the people COMRADE ;)
 ~Hams~
Joined: 9/18/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:51:15 AM
So was this an April fools joke then?

I heard on the radio today that there are more CCTV cameras in Basingstoke than in the whole of New York.

Now they also want to monitor all our email and web use?

No doubt it will soon be a crime to be single and on a dating site - We better all hurry up and find somebody!
 badge73
Joined: 1/17/2009
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:46:21 PM
do you really think this is aimed at mr and mrs bloggs from down the street? ...

ever thought how long it takes to get a warrant from the courts etc?

wonder if a terrorist attack in the future happens, what would be the public reaction if the security services said they had a bit of a clue but by the time we got a warrant etc it happened .... instead of being able to do something straight away?

why is the internet activity so sensitive for people? considering most government agencies and councils can look through your bank accounts with out a warrant already etc.
 monty336
Joined: 12/29/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:39:18 PM
no doubt monitoring emails phones has been going on for years they just want to make it legal, already facebook is a vast library of info for police etc, the world of 1984 is here
 *rem*
Joined: 11/5/2008
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Posted: 4/1/2012 3:34:43 PM
Hahaha.. When i was 7 to the age of 11 i knew a guy who amongst other things was married to a woman who worked for GCHQ. She was sworn to secrecy even then but i can tell you all communication was bread and butter then.
What the fnck is the point of passing a law for something secret? ffs.
 *rem*
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:01:51 PM

ah, anyone savvy enough to [u]need[/u] to hide their activity whilst on the net or phone will use an encrypted VPN provider based in a faraway "treaty unfriendly" country and access their email through that VPN connection rather than using a local eMail client... or they might use PGP instead and a local SMTP server, likewise VOIP traffic, all through the VPN... it simply cannot be snooped upon (just plug a VOIP handset into your router or use a WiFi enabled mobile vai WPA2 WiFi encryption AND route the VOIP conversations through the VPN...)




Alternatively you could open a few email adresses from different places.
 try1more
Joined: 12/16/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:52:02 AM
it does seem that a large part of the "special relationship" consisted of the yanks spying on the brits for the brit gov, and the brits spying on the yanks for the yank gov, cos it were illegal to spy on their own.
but since the yanks have now made it ok to spy on their own the brits have little choice but try to do the same.
 try1more
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:52:31 AM
here is a nice confession by theresa may that the government routinely breaks the law and thats how the catch crims.
that or she's admitting that the laws dont need changing as they're catching them anyway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/03/theresa-may-email-surveillance-plans


"But Theresa May said "ordinary people" had nothing to fear. Writing in the Sun, May claimed that similar data had already helped convict the Soham murderer Ian Huntley and the killers of the Liverpool schoolboy Rhys Jones, as well as smashing a major international child pornography website based in Lincolnshire.

"Such data has been used in every security service terrorism investigation and 95% of serious organised crime investigations over the last 10 years," May wrote. "We cannot afford to lose this vital law enforcement tool."

what the hell are they losing?

this woman is nothing more than a clueless puppet.

of course the government would never break the law would it?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3488548.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3507533.stm
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:22:34 AM
^^^ If she's the "Home Secretary", then why isn't she AT home..>?

I have made a note of everyone's names.

 badge73
Joined: 1/17/2009
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:24:20 AM

^^^^ Sorry Badge, but a warrant can be got in under a hour......


notice the word "can" though, i dare say often then not its no where near an hour, as with all the paper work needs to signed off, and by that time most of the data has been wiped.

prehaps a someone who is a copper can tell us or knows one?


When they created RIPA to combat terror, did you really think it would be used by councils to punish people for putting their bin out on the wrong day? The problem with these laws is that once they are introduced they are often abused. Obviously no-one has an issue with actually combating crime, but you can guarantee we'll start to hear of these powers being used to find out you e-mailed auntie Maude to tell her that you're not really in the catchment area for little Tarquin's school and within hours anti-terror police will be breaking down your door!


i hear what your saying but its still a crime though isnt it? sledgehammer to crack a nut maybe but then again im all in favour of things like that
 *rem*
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:47:01 AM

Are our lives significantly improved by the internet? We managed for thousands of years without, would we un- invent it, after all you can t miss what you haven t had??


You should be more scared of the government than the internet
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