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 tinkerbellcgy
Joined: 9/17/2005
Msg: 272
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Homophobia -- the DealbreakerPage 12 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)

As you likely know Thailand has quite a number of men that feel they are trapped in a mans body.Many are shunned and go through a difficult time,despite those tranny beauty pageants being quite popular apparently.

We don't have nearly as many here.

Tinker dear,every household will be different,some kids are more sheltered than others, this is why a state sponsored program might be harmful.We want our young to see each other as people,not sex objects.....right?

As suspected, you don't have any answers. You're merely spouting off and flapping your gums. And that sure isn't surprising now, is it?
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 273
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 3:23:26 PM
Neither you nor any of the PC bots have any answers either.You believe moving to a continuously ever liberal lifestyle is going to solve something. I have news for you,you're headed in the wrong direction.The strong sectors of society are the groups that are more conservative.Wynne and her gang have no solid answers for a broad range of issues,this one included.There is no problem at the moment,they are simply trying to be social engineers.And the chief engineer was a pedophile.You have no answer to that.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 274
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 3:33:22 PM

I'm suggesting that you are being ethnocentric to feel that other cultures should accept liberal sexual mores.


so how's life workin' out for in that anti-reality world, imma repeating myself, you're still ghey
 tinkerbellcgy
Joined: 9/17/2005
Msg: 275
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Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 3:45:03 PM
These were the questions that I asked you to elaborate on and answer:


There are some places for which these gay issues are more of a problem such as Thailand whoaml,but its rare here.

You're sure that "these gay issues" are not much of a problem here in Canada or North America in general? What are "these gay issues" that you refer to. In order that you can teach us all your "healthy outlooks" on this topic, please do so and be sure to be very detailed and specific so that we cannot misinterpret exactly what you consider to be "healthy outlooks".

There is no pressing need for any additional sex ed and certainly nothing to confuse children before sex even enters their consciousness.

At what age exactly do you figure sex ed enters the consciousness of children? Again, please be specific and detailed.

Enquiring minds and all!

You responded with:

Neither you nor any of the PC bots have any answers either.You believe moving to a continuously ever liberal lifestyle is going to solve something. I have news for you,you're headed in the wrong direction.The strong sectors of society are the groups that are more conservative.Wynne and her gang have no solid answers for a broad range of issues,this one included.There is no problem at the moment,they are simply trying to be social engineers.And the chief engineer was a pedophile.You have no answer to that.

So....you are simply admitting that you have no answers to your assertions when asked to back them up and you are using smoke and mirrors to attempt to cover up the fact that you are merely blowing smoke out of your ears, flapping your gums and have no clear understanding of any of the unbased statements and/or opinions you put forth. Not surprising.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 276
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 6:18:58 PM
^^^
@tinker
And I thought Irish was obtuse .What I stated was that every household was different.Some kids will be more advanced.

One size does not fit all.This doesnt matter to those with their socialist agenda.

@walts
I didnt say the Triangle Program was part of an agenda.I said the secrecy of the new sex ed program and its contents were.Now we are equating being a gay student with a woman that suffered through a violent relationship.I don't recall one incident in this town.Drama.

@babble
Awww...a valid call of being ethnocentric and you respond by calling me a fag....you're just a sock puppet in B.C....Walt's?
 Booky3
Joined: 5/25/2013
Msg: 277
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 8:49:54 PM

the North fought for equality


Actually young man you show your ignorance by calling people morons that disagree with your warped sense of equality. ANY History book details how and what the Civil War was fought over, so your assertion that it was a fight for "equal" rights is just plain absurd.

Young man you're just another deceived tool regurgitating the mantra taught to you by those that do have an AGENDA. So allow me to give you a History lesson you apparently failed to acquire.

I'm sure this is one of the complete fabrications your teachers told you "Southern states continued to rely on slaves for their farming economy and cotton production"

Really?

What complete balderdash, since the majority of whites in the Southern states DID NOT OWN SLAVES. The majority of Whites relied on themselves for cotton production. The notion that most whites had a couple slaves picking cotton is right out of Hollywood. At the peak of slavery only 8% of blacks were ever a slave. And the status of the other 92%..they were FREE MEN.

President Lincoln insisted that the war was not about slavery or black rights; it was a war to preserve the Union. His words were not simply aimed at the loyal southern states, however -- most white northerners were not interested in fighting to free slaves or in giving rights to black people. For this reason, the government turned away African American volunteers who rushed to enlist. Lincoln upheld the laws barring blacks from the army, proving to northern whites that their race privilege would not be threatened.

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists" - Lincoln.

The North went to war to hold the union together, slavery had nothing to do with it. So how dare you pronounce such garbage and lies. You're ignorance of History of telling, so I'll inform you now that the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 left slavery intact in border states that hadn't seceded! I guess your liberal-minded teachers forgot to teach you that?

It has become fashionable to wrap the gay rights movement in the mantle of America's earlier struggle for racial equality. But never can some gay pervert be compared with what my forefathers dealt with, It's an insult anyone would even make the comparison.

Also I doubt if many have ever met a Transsexual with an afternoon shadow. Not one person on the planet would feel comfortable around such.

Only a true moron would equate a sexual deviancy with a race. The prejudices blacks experienced, such as exclusion from the voting booth, job opportunities and colleges, and the threat of violence against them, were far greater than any prejudices experienced by the gay community. Gays have yet to be raped, shot, hung & burned to death. So don't try to make your love for gays any form of struggle that has been experienced by my forefathers you dumb ****.

Even the majority of liberal blacks don't accept that perversion to the dismay of you silly Egalitarians.

I can see from your posting history you're nothing but a provocateur in boredom seeking entertainment via the forums. I doubt very much if you are sincere in your post. Eventually you'll go back to your drugs and loose women for entertainment.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 278
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 9:01:57 PM
^^^^
I've said it here before that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.Fairy tales.
 Booky3
Joined: 5/25/2013
Msg: 279
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 9:02:35 PM
Then simply ask any woman has she felt a sickening feeling when a man wearing a dress walks into the female bathroom?

People are arguing a position where common sense and practical experience would leave them numb.
 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 280
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/17/2015 10:27:49 PM
"any woman has she felt a sickening feeling when a man wearing a dress walks into the female bathroom? "


Only if he wears the dress better than we do.. it's like... damn! We Jealous! :)
 midnite_icecream
Joined: 12/27/2014
Msg: 281
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 12:07:08 AM

Gays have yet to be raped, shot, hung & burned to death. So don't try to make your love for gays any form of struggle that has been experienced by my forefathers you dumb ****.

That's not exactly true. In one city alone (in my country), there was spate of gay bashings and murders a couple of decades ago. I haven't investigated the occurance of these types of homophobic crimes worldwide but I'm willing to bet they haven't been isolated to just one city. I suppose they've not been to the extent of what your forefathers have suffered, but they're no less horrific.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-shame
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
Msg: 282
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 8:15:22 AM
You would think that someone coming from a history of struggle that included slavery, beatings, hangings, rapes and bigotry because they were "different" would be a little more open minded about others that are "different".
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 283
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 8:39:58 AM
Gays can act and look straight.No need for a parade.
 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 284
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 8:49:40 AM
[In 2008, 17.6% of hate crimes were based on the victim's perceived sexual orientation. Of those crimes, 72.23% were violent in nature. 4,704 crimes were committed due to racial bias and 1,617 were committed due to sexual orientation. Of these, only one murder and one forcible rape were committed due to racial bias, whereas five murders and six rapes were committed based on sexual orientation.]

[In 2011, the FBI reported 1,572 hate crime victims targeted based on a sexual orientation bias, making up 20.4% of the total hate crimes for that year. Of the total victims, 56.7% were targeted based on anti-male homosexual bias, 29.6% were targeted based on anti-homosexual bias, and 11.1% were targeted based on anti-female homosexual bias.]

This is the US, never mind the rest of the world.......


[Outside the West, many countries, particularly those where the dominant religion is Islam, but also many countries in the Commonwealth (e.g. Uganda, Nigeria, Malaysia and Jamaica), most African (excluding South Africa) and some Asian countries (excluding Japan and Taiwan), and some former-Communist countries in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, such as Russia and Serbia, are currently very dangerous for LGBT people because of discrimination against homosexuals which influences both discriminatory legislation and physical violence.

As of May 2011, 75 countries criminalize consensual sexual acts between adults of the same sex.[14] They are punishable by death in eight countries:

Iran:[15] Since 1979, the government has executed more than 4,000 people charged with homosexual acts.[16]
Mauritania
Saudi Arabia: Although the maximum punishment for homosexuality is execution, the government tends to use other punishments (fines, prison sentence, and whipping), unless it feels that homosexuals have challenged state authority by engaging in LGBT social movements.[17]
Sudan
Yemen
Parts of Nigeria and Gambia]


[In Nazi Germany, homosexuals were among the groups targeted by the Holocaust (See Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust). ]



and for the grand finale ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape
 SunshineGirl__
Joined: 10/7/2014
Msg: 285
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 9:07:28 AM
Sexual deviancy? You mean like sodomy? That would be oral sex. Heterosexuals do not engage in oral sex? Or anal sex? What kind of sex do you consider appropriate and do you interrogate friends, family, business associates, etc. etc. as to what kind of sex they engage in, as per your approval? Why would you fantasize about anybody else’s sex life?
To be disgusted by it? Or turned on?

You seem capable enough of feeling your own perceived pain. Guess you’re too wrapped up in being self righteous and wounded to imagine anyone else could be wounded too. You think no one’s ever been persecuted in this sh!t world but poor little you? Hypocrite.

Btw, you don’t score points for first saying this:
Actually young man you show your ignorance by calling people morons that disagree with your warped sense of equality.


then saying this:
Only a true moron would equate a sexual deviancy with a race.


Again, hypocrite.


You would think that someone coming from a history of struggle that included slavery, beatings, hangings, rapes and bigotry because they were "different" would be a little more open minded about others that are "different".


Exactly. Thank you for saying that.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 286
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 11:05:29 AM
And of the percentage of hate crimes involving sexual orientation how many had aggravating factors?
Let's remember that vectors friends beat a gay man because he was making drunken advances towards him.Not that this is an excuse for ganging up or beating an impaired individual.

 BLonde^j^AngeL
Joined: 1/2/2015
Msg: 287
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/18/2015 12:07:01 PM
I knew a nice lady from a meetup group, & after a year found out she was trans.

I still think of her as a female friend. It is not easy to be her. Sometimes people ask me about her & try to know why...my answer, I don't even try to wrap my brain around it, I just accept her as is.

Recently found out a distant cousin is trans & is a prominent person in her field. I think she is a good person, I don't care that she was born one way & is now another way.
 Forumuseronly
Joined: 1/15/2015
Msg: 288
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/19/2015 4:27:52 PM
I cleaned houses within the gay community of a large city to put myself through college. Never had a problem. I found them to be intelligent, ambitious and tallented people. I do seem to encounter homophobia in the rural setting more so than in urban settings. I taught one class in Newfoundland that really struggled to talk about it. Anyone who is narrow mined so as to have any problem with the gay community is not cool with me.

My favorite gay story comes from the one particular house cleaning job. Tony and Chris shared it. They had a king sized waterbed that was over filled. It really worried me because should it ever develop a leak the damage it would cause to the century old house would be a disaster. One Saturday I was vacuuming the bedroom when Chris walked in (normally I had the place to myself on Saturdays). Anyway I shut the vacuum off to have a conversation:

"So ah Chris. Your waterbed is over filled with water you know."
He looked at me with a grin I'd not seen before and said "Yes I know."
I said "Well if it ever gets a leak it could really do a number on your floor and the ceiling below us."
Again with the grin and a "Yes I know."
"So why do you have so much water in your water bed bag then?" I asked.
"Well" he said "When you get 4 or 5 guys. . . ."
"Ok that's enough" I said a little hastily. " I don't need to know any more."
 midnite_icecream
Joined: 12/27/2014
Msg: 289
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/19/2015 4:58:48 PM
Appreciate the facts given in msg 305. Gov't perpetrators, Islamic subjugators.. worse than what any citizen can do. Glad it included the Nazi persecution of homosexuals..only later did I remember that.
Discrimination against this group will never be completely stamped out, so party on with your Gay Pride parades folks! Attracting the tourist dollar benefits the economy too.
@ calguy..there's no excuse for beating up unimpaired gays either!!
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 290
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 1:29:38 AM
^^^
Hahaha.
I love the way you PC bots try to twist things.

@forumuseronly
Sounds like a loving relationship between two people doesn't it?Do you feel the chances of disease go up when you're in bed with four other people?
 CuriousInDB
Joined: 7/12/2014
Msg: 291
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 6:54:48 AM

Then simply ask any woman has she felt a sickening feeling when a man wearing a dress walks into the female bathroom?


*yawn*

It's never going to end, is it? This child of the sixties knows that.

I've shared a restroom a number of times with
a man wearing a dress
. Never had a problem. I use the men's rooms around town when the ladies' is too crowded and other women fall in line behind me once they realize it's common sense and simply another of society's stigmas. Most restrooms in other countries are unisex, aren't they?

I've corresponded with two self-described cross-dressers here, one at length over months. I learned a lot.

"How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
How many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?"

Meh, feeling a little sappy today. Peace, out.
 Forumuseronly
Joined: 1/15/2015
Msg: 292
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 4:57:03 PM
[Sounds like a loving relationship between two people doesn't it?]
(First time trying the quote thing. Hope I got it right)

The gay men I knew viewed sex as being separate from love. They looked the other way if their partner had sex with others as long as things of the heart were kept between them. Loving relationship? Some had them and others, like Chris and Tony, had a relationship of convenience. Chris was older and was the income earner while Tony more or less prostituted himself to Chris while attending university. They both knew and accepted it would come to an end when Tony graduated.

[Do you feel the chances of disease go up when you're in bed with four other people?]

Sadly this was the case. Aides killed a number of this social group just after I moved on and started delivering pizzas. This was 30 years ago mind you, but I imagine the same social norms exist minus anything that is risky to their health. I did get the distinct impression the group kept to themselves. The two that died got aides from a sexual encounter with someone outside of the group. It was the gossip rage at the time. And you know how gays can play that up! :)

Interestingly, studies are now showing a correlation between homosexuality and mental illness. If you are gay chances are you also have a mental illness. Bipolar is common amoung gays.

Persoanlly I'm betting that in our near future we will be avle to identify and possible correct homosexuality within the womb. The Last Gay - sounds like a good sci-fi book.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 293
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 6:23:36 PM
The Last Gay.haha,strictly fiction of course.Sadly the availability of effective drugs to combat aids has led to a drop in condom use.The stats say gonorhea has increased.And the young are more at risk.

I won't get into any discussion about "correcting" homosexuality or some real screaming will start.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 294
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 6:35:47 PM
Please do not compare the homosexual life to slavery or being black or being a woman. They are not comparable. You can't change black to white. See Michael Jackson. You can't change female to male. See DNA. I know people have have chosen to get both in and out of homosexual lives, one on a rotating basis for the past twenty years. Such a comparison only makes political enemies, not political points. I will not argue this point. That is all that I have to say about it.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 295
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 6:45:54 PM
Booky - I am surprised that that is PC group has allowed your account to survive.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 296
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 1/20/2015 8:22:02 PM
Actually man can turn to woman kinda Deet.Breast implants,hormone therapy.I've heard of two women in the past two or three years that were playing the man with testosterone injections.
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