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 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 136
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabricPage 6 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)

Maybe a repulsion.


Yeah its like basically you have orientation and that lights the way. And shocks the other way if repulsed. Ultimately overlooked if the person is a decent human being.

Yeah before going into basic I was like - I don't know what I think about prison showers with dudes. I wasn't nervous, I just enjoyed my comfort zone. Back when I had one I mean. Everyone will say basic training didn't suck, or most people in a combat MOS probably. But if everyone was honest. Basic sucked in a lot of wonderful ways, I needed at least that ass whooping in life.

My friend he would say something like "when you're idle and you have nothing to do, you're bored and it sucks. But when it sucks all the time, you're never bored. lol, which you know, as it turns out, seems pretty plausible.

Bill Burr said it best, search - "bill birr - gay people". That dude is hilarious, easily my favorite comedian, since maybe greg giraldo passed away. And if you want to dye laughing scan to his bit.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 137
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/26/2014 2:43:17 AM
@vector
What do you mean you couldn't help him out?
@bluemoon
I agree its OK to talk to children about some kids having two mommies.But there is no need to discuss specifics.How many kids actually have two daddies?And that gets a lot more graphic doesn't it?
FCS,I know you're an atheist,for Christ's sake.The auto correct capitalizes Christ.Is that grounds for a complaint? :)I talk to my brother plenty.I've met his friends.I talk to everybody,doesn't matter who they are,all colors and creeds.
 Eternityboresme
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 138
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 2:48:09 AM
Eternity....you bore me...your ignorance of the language


No such ignorance in my repertoire exists.


however is amusing as is your assumption that I care either about you or your son enough to devote the time it would take to bother with either one of you so sit and spin on it....


You're generally thoughtless about the consequences of the things you espouse, so it seems, which does include your homophobic bigotry.

The only thing that is genuine about your rant is that your're honest in your stubborn commitment to hating homosexuals and homosexuality. No matter how much you 'spin it' and the shit threaded with precious words, you're still a loathsome bigot.


you are without a doubt one of the most angry,bitter and bile spewing females on here....


Violins.


my condolences to any man who would have given you a son or got that close to begin with....you have a nice day now


The man with whom I created our gay son was a rank bigot. And I mean a thorough bigot. He was, in his early years, the kind of bigot that puts bigots like you to shame. He also served in a terrible war, lived through a transformation of his country of origin and a transitioned to a country in a state where racism isn't generally tolerated. He had no choice but to transform, and he did, with amazing results. He had to face severe consequences for this, though.

And here you are, flagrantly expressing your homophobic bigotry and expecting prospective dates to overlook it and give you dates. Shameless.
 Eternityboresme
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 139
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 3:28:00 AM
The original question was Homophobia,a deal breaker ? the dealbreaker is anyone who demands that others share their views and opinions in order to have any kind of relationship with them....


No, it's quite apparent you want them to accept your bigoted notions, without aforethought to the harm it might come to them when the time comes to blend families and share lives. They don't have to accept that, and they're free to find somebody who doesn't have them. There's no need to force you or them into anything that will make either of you uncomfortable.

I agree bigotry is toxic, and I hope you'll seek professional help for yours.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 140
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 5:02:49 AM
That's different two step.Do some research on gay male porn and get back to us.

@eternity
What kind of professional help? :)
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 141
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 5:22:22 AM
Porn, of any kind is a far cry from the reality of it all kids. Mommy and Daddy should have taught ya that a long time ago.

But, hey, if that's how you "educate" yourself, fill your boots, or should I say, your right hand.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 142
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 7:43:56 AM
Brilliant Walt's.I guess you missed the part up thread about Ontario wanting to very actively insert themselves into child sex ed.The program designed by the guy producing child porn,remember?Teaching sexual practices with graphic aids is not needed.I don't get off watching porn myself.I don't agree with it,especially for young people,it sends the wrong message and this has nothing to do with religion .
 Peppermint_Petunias
Joined: 3/30/2012
Msg: 143
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Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/26/2014 12:14:34 PM
I think everyone to a degree has some sort of prejudice even if they are not aware of it.

If a person is vocal or obviously bothered by another lifestyle/race/religion etc that isn't hurting another person such as homosexuality, YES it would be a deal breaker if its because of hatred/intolerance..


If he just cringes a bit with embarrassment if he see's men holding hands or a kiss out in public when with me and doesnt say anything, Meh, who cares? It may be a bit homophobic-ish, but thats not the same as hating or discriminating against them, it just makes his neck hairs stand up a bit.
Most Men and women my age and Southern have come a long way and weren't in most cases brought up to think its OK, so I get they are uncomfortable with a few things that are new to them.

Now if he wants to do me "like a A MAN" THATS a hole nutter ball game..buh bye
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 144
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 5:26:19 AM

@vector
What do you mean you couldn't help him out?


A few of my friends got offended by some gay guy... so they wanted to "teach him a lesson." The gay guy was drunk, my friends high, all sitting at a tiki bar humoring him or whatever. And so they were going to roll him, so I just got up and left.

But they basically robbed him and humiliated him by taking his money and shorts. It was always hilarious to them and most people when telling the story too. Fully justified too because he was acting out by blowing kisses and other odd things towards us. And I got called a p***y for walking away.
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 145
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 8:05:23 AM
You say:

Sometimes mummies and daddies are irresponsible, so two responsible adults took up the task.

If he says anything other than "oh" you got yourself a genius.

If he says "No I mean why are two guys living together"

Then you can go on and spread the good word of what you think about it.
 Halcyon_Skies
Joined: 2/1/2009
Msg: 146
Homophobia -- the Dealbreaker
Posted: 12/27/2014 8:17:20 AM

I think everyone to a degree has some sort of prejudice even if they are not aware of it.

If a person is vocal or obviously bothered by another lifestyle/race/religion etc that isn't hurting another person such as homosexuality, YES it would be a deal breaker if its because of hatred/intolerance..

If he just cringes a bit with embarrassment if he see's men holding hands or a kiss out in public when with me and doesnt say anything, Meh, who cares? It may be a bit homophobic-ish, but thats not the same as hating or discriminating against them, it just makes his neck hairs stand up a bit.
Most Men and women my age and Southern have come a long way and weren't in most cases brought up to think its OK, so I get they are uncomfortable with a few things that are new to them.


I agree with you, Pepps. My guy and I went to Piedmont Park in Atlanta one time, not knowing that there was the annual Gay Pride Festival going on there. He got very uncomfortable after he saw the news crew from WSB-TV Channel 2. We promptly left the park.


Now if he wants to do me "like a A MAN" THATS a hole nutter ball game..buh bye


I agree with this, as well.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 147
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 8:20:41 AM
quote]I guess a hard part is when your 6 year old asks something like 'if it takes a mummy and daddy to make babies, where did my friend Steven come from as he only has 2 daddy’s, and no mummy.

Well, tell your 6 year old the stork brought Steven.

If you have a "hard time" explaining this little scenario, what are going to do with the real tough questions start coming from your 6 year old????? Maybe just point "google" out to your 6 year old right now, saving you all the heartache of being an informed (and informative) parent of which you child can go to when he/she feels the need.
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
Msg: 148
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 9:40:31 AM
There was a nice, cute little blonde gal in our office a year or so ago, 5 kids with 4 men. How about the divorced and multi divorced with a Dad, a step Dad and another step Dad plus George that now lives with Mom. What the hell do folks tell their kids? Just enough so their normal (which may not be your normal) makes sense to their little ears.
 SunshineGirl__
Joined: 10/7/2014
Msg: 149
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 11:52:17 AM

I guess a hard part is when your 6 year old asks something like 'if it takes a mummy and daddy to make babies, where did my friend Steven come from as he only has 2 daddy’s, and no mummy.


Right. I guess explaining the simple concept that, “some children are adopted by parents who love them,” is too intellectually challenging. :/

PS. Six years old? That’s a precocious kid. Like Good Will Hunting or Forrest Gump or something….
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 150
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 1:54:08 PM
This site explains the controversy.Only selected parents are being allowed to have input.
www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-liberal-gvmt-resurrects-controversial-sex-ed-curriculum
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 151
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 4:51:49 PM
^^^^^ Do we have to get on our knees to read such bullshiat??????? The last resort of God fearing followers is fear itself. The article is a prime example such fear mongering.

Give me a copy of what is actually being proposed and I'll actually start taking you seriously. Until then, good luck trying to prove any form of point you think you have in your head.

Ignorance and arrogance.

Not a good mix.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 152
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 5:51:43 PM
@Walts
The exact content is being kept secret.The people are not having a say.Hand picked parents from each school are being selected,along with other experts.We have already seen what kind of expert Levin was.

Undoubtedly it will be a gay agenda driven curriculum, otherwise they wouldn't be keeping it a secret.

Ignorance is bliss.
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 153
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 6:13:14 PM

Undoubtedly it will be a gay agenda driven curriculum, otherwise they wouldn't be keeping it a secret. Ignorance is bliss


What is the gay agenda? Equality?

You have any idea how many lesbian and gay couples would be happy and more than willing to raise kids?

Do you know what happens to children who grow up in broken homes? Do you know what developmental scarring goes on? So the children grow up in broken homes, are then transferred to CPS (after it gets bad.) And CPS facilities are a stone cold deal, as opposed to a loving family.

I know how poorly funded government programs work, they work poorly for kids who have gone through trauma. And simply having to be in one would be a rough deal in life.

While gay and lesbian couples, who are perfectly capable of raising kids. Aren't given any opportunity, because of bigotry and cowardly fear.

So children literally have to sustain longer stays in facilities that are most likely overcrowded as it is. Longer, more traumatic, and feeling of love lost in limbo.

But go ahead, perpetuate your agenda, ignorance is bliss moron.



 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
Msg: 154
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 6:31:00 PM
Nice religious fanatic site there Calguy. I had a little more respect for you up until now.
 flaneur001
Joined: 7/31/2011
Msg: 155
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Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 8:24:43 PM
Calguy:

Here is a more balanced point of view on the issue. Furthermore, why do you care what we do in Ontario?
http://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/on-our-minds/sex-education-crisis-ontario/
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
Msg: 156
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Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/27/2014 10:31:36 PM
I wouldn't date a man who was homophobic and didn't want to get over it. If he was homophobic and was willing to address it, then I may be willing.

I believe that most hatred is from ignorance and fear. If it is addressed it can go away. When I come across someone who has issues like this, I ask them why and then try to help them understand and get over it.

If they refuse to look into it as an issue with them, then it would be a deal breaker.

Most people get over their issues when they understand where they got them from or where the confusion started. Sometimes a little patience, explanation and time will help them not to hate. (fear).

I'd rather give them a chance to learn and grow rather than become just like them and hate them because I'm afraid of dealing with them.

Society doesn't help when they don't allow men or women to be close to one another without mocking them.

Maybe homophobic people would feel less frightened and act less hateful if we taught them different types of love were ok, common and acceptable instead of hating them for their fears so they get defensive instead of open to understanding?

But as I said, they'd have to be willing to grow out of it before it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 157
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/28/2014 5:18:41 AM
www.brockpress.com/.../ontario-liberals-putting-controversial-sex-ed-cur.

Read it and try to see what they are trying to do, without your bias or your prejudices, which I know isn't easy.


Hand picked parents from each school are being selected,along with other experts


A parent, from every school, picked by the principal of said school.


Undoubtedly it will be a gay agenda driven curriculum, otherwise they wouldn't be keeping it a secret.


I doubt it. In fact, the big uproar is from "religious parents" who don't like information out about something they don't "believe in". The curriculum has NOT been changed in 16 years, and anyone that deals with children knows that a 10 year old of today, is not like the one from 16 years ago. The kids in Grade 8 of today, I would consider "studs" compared to what I looked like way back when. Biologically, they are growing faster, and by default, hitting puberty faster.

The last thing religious groups want out there, is INFORMATION, and facts. Especially information and facts that goes against decades of beliefs and teachings. Even the pope is figuring this shiat out and trying to direct accordingly.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 158
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/28/2014 8:19:40 AM
@vector
There are plenty of straight childless couples that cannot find the child they want...moron.Try pairing up with a woman if you want a child,its easier.

@bluemoon
These are the people that are speaking up.This is why some dislike them.There was no religion allowed in Russia previously,the Chinese persecute many.Why?
@flaneur
I will check it out.First Ontario,then who is next?

@Walts
No,it has not been changed in 16 years.They tried to introduce a new one,PARENTS didn't like it.They have a say,religous or not,is that against the law now?Kids are not much different today,I figure they are not studs compared to myself and my athletic friends 40 years ago.Young women are being sexualized,that is the problem.What kid in grade 3 needs to question their sexual identity?Its a gay frickin AGENDA as evidenced by the gay premier,the gay pedophile producer of the first draft,and the closed process in which they are trying to ram this through.

After pondering your post for a few more minutes....substitute "religious parents" for Jewish parents....
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 159
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/28/2014 8:30:18 AM
^^^^^ Your comments are really starting to expose you, your beliefs, and your ignorance on the subject matter. In fact, it's a prime example of "homophobia", and why it's so dangerous. And yet, you are still being so arrogant about it all?????


Its a gay frickin AGENDA as evidenced by the gay premier,the gay pedophile producer of the first draft,and the closed process in which they are trying to ram this through.


Despite what you have been shown, you are still spewing your hate, and exposing your ignorance? Why is that?


Most people get over their issues when they understand where they got them from or where the confusion started. Sometimes a little patience, explanation and time will help them not to hate. (fear).

I'd rather give them a chance to learn and grow rather than become just like them and hate them because I'm afraid of dealing with them.


I believe my patience just went out the door with this one.
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
Msg: 160
Really don't care if gay men are part of the social fabric
Posted: 12/28/2014 12:11:41 PM
I'm sorry, if someone is still homophobic or a racist or a bigot or a religious fanatic at our age...I'm not dating them or wasting any of my time "teaching" them the errors of their way. I don't hate them, I just can't be bothered. An open mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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