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 Fleuron
Joined: 8/18/2010
Msg: 232
50 Shades of GreyPage 6 of 17    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17)

macongtr: i disagree with the buzz. i think the problem here isnt the fact that this book is so bad, its the fact that so many people have fallen in love with it. there has always been some bad writer out there spewing forth their juvenlie drivel. problem is, now the masses eat that garbage up.


Mr.Wrong: I disagree with your disagreement, halfway….or agree halfway….it’s the bad book AND the fact that so many people have fallen in love with it and are eating it up. Not only is it horrendous, despicable writing, it’s bad sex. It’s naughty, give me a break.
The only reason people are falling in love with it is because other people are telling them to.

Since some people are so inclined to waste their money on crap, I could probably spew out a couple books before morning and rake in the dough. I’ve got a thesaurus, an extensive knowledge of adverbs and more than a few naughty ideas.
 Drawesome32
Joined: 6/26/2012
Msg: 233
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/17/2012 11:36:54 PM
fleuron: if youre going to try and write a book on naughty sex, perhaps i should give you some inspiration.

edited to add: fleuron, if i do what im capable of, you wont find the time to ever write a book.
 Fleuron
Joined: 8/18/2010
Msg: 234
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/17/2012 11:59:46 PM
^^^^^^ Okay, I’m willing to consider your offer…but don’t expect a cut of the profits.
Inspire me. ;)
 aussieblues
Joined: 11/22/2011
Msg: 235
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50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 12:19:45 AM
It was like reading Barbara Cartland on Viagra....only she was about 10 years old when she wrote it. The writing style is adolescent. ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
Yes I read them all...I was gifted them via PDF for a long journey. The scenery out of the train window was more engaging..Have you crossed the Nullabor lately? It's more engaging than Shades of Grey.
 Love.Notes
Joined: 7/27/2012
Msg: 237
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:39:37 PM
I will still believe she has the upper hand as long as she doesn't sign that contract lol I don't know if she does or doesn't but she is playing her cards right and giving it much thought. In response to Slave Drive msg 226. yes there are many people into that lifestyle but for the majority of us it's not something we will do on a regular basis and some won't even entertain the thought. The word "property" I have a problem with. It's not love, it's not love making, it's not relationship material or even a quality that will lead to anything meaningful. So it will entertain the mind of the individual who is there for pure sexual pleasure at his or her expense. Something you think women will dive into ?

I highly doubt it!

About the writer, sure it's not Lord of the Rings but it does have it's audience, myself included. And all of us are reading it for our own reasons. Smut is smut no matter how it is written. I don't see how anyone can be so judgmental about a book. You may think it's disgusting as some have stated above me, however you must have some knowledge of this so called 'disgusting book". It's not to your liking but who are you to say it's garbage and a waste of time and money? Those are things better left unsaid as in this case it is an "to each their own' type of reading material.

I, am enjoying the book!
 Fleuron
Joined: 8/18/2010
Msg: 239
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 4:12:03 PM

I don't see how anyone can be so judgmental about a book. You may think it's disgusting as some have stated above me, however you must have some knowledge of this so called 'disgusting book". It's not to your liking but who are you to say it's garbage and a waste of time and money? Those are things better left unsaid as in this case it is an "to each their own' type of reading material.


I don’t know who you’re referring to, but I find the writing style horrific and infantile. First person present tense?? Good god…. Never mind the completely unrealistic ‘sex.’

Who am I? A member of PoF with an opinion, just like everybody else posting here.

I have strong opinions and state them strongly. I think gushing over crap should be left unsaid, but everyone has a right to post here, so mostly I just get over it and go on with my life.
 SSC-SAF
Joined: 5/20/2012
Msg: 240
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 6:43:04 PM
@LoveNotes: it's not the "disgusting" subject but the disgustingly junior-high-potboiler writing style that most of us have issues with. The "writer" is laughing all the way to the bank, but that doesn't make these books worth reading. Lord of the Rings is brilliantly written, classic literature. 50 Shades is a badly written fanfic series based on another badly written series.

I enjoy reading BDSM works that are written with some intelligence, talent AND a knowledge of the subject. This series does not fall under any of those criteria. Since this is an open forum, you're free to express your admiration of the books, and I am free to express my disdain for them.
 Love.Notes
Joined: 7/27/2012
Msg: 241
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 9:26:35 PM
SS-SAF... to YOU they are not worth reading to others they are.

Enough said
 Fleuron
Joined: 8/18/2010
Msg: 243
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/18/2012 10:30:13 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What’s a thesaurus? Some type of dinosaur? ;) You’re being kind. :) I think there were a few other things lacking. Ya know, the kind of stuff you learn in third grade.


Need a co-author?


And a research assistant. :)
 DivineBovine
Joined: 5/13/2005
Msg: 247
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50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/22/2012 5:27:11 PM
for a good giggle, follow 50 Sheds of Grey on Twitter - great stuff!



i haven't read these - have no intention of reading them either. it's almost 20 years since i read Anne Rice's Beauty series. last week, i saw those as part of a display along with 50 Shades and what i thought was that anyone who thinks these stupid books are "extreme" would be grossed out by the Anne Rice stuff!

i do wish i'd STOP getting "Meet Me" and email messages from men who fancy themselves to be Christian Grey...

*rolls eyes*
 len129
Joined: 8/22/2006
Msg: 251
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Posted: 8/25/2012 10:20:37 AM
Hi

A bunch of older women I work with were going ga ga over those books for two months. I told them the only thing holding them back was themselves. They told me I was right about that . It's more or less a fantasy of theirs I think . My self I don't need those books just a willing partner. Oh yeah remember this guy was very rich in the book . That's another big turn on for women lol
 Love.Notes
Joined: 7/27/2012
Msg: 252
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/26/2012 10:21:27 PM
Done the first book and onto the second. Nope! I like it and I don't think it's "crap" ^^^^ live and let live
 tigereyes67
Joined: 6/29/2008
Msg: 253
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/27/2012 1:19:11 AM
It is obvious that you haven't read all of the books. Its not just about signing a contract. It is a romance with a little twist from the boring historical romance novels. The books are not predictable and have lots of turns to heightens the excitement. I found them exciting and a turn on. By the way I have not lead a sheltered life by any means. My own personal life is much more then 50 shades. There are a lot of women who have not experimented into anything except straight vanilla. This book gives them ideas without pressure from a man or the fear of how it will end. With that said, If its not for you then that is your choice. If it is enjoy it, nobody ever got hurt reading a book for entertainment.
 tigereyes67
Joined: 6/29/2008
Msg: 254
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/27/2012 1:22:14 AM
Did you even read the book? Probably not. I can just imagine the sex with you would be nothing but straight missionary,all the time, only on certain days of the week, and has to be scheduled a week in advance. How boring, I feel sorry for you and the woman that is with you. She probably doesn't even know what an orgasm is.
 bijinfinder
Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 256
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Posted: 8/28/2012 2:21:34 PM
I have read about the first 260 pages, I find it hard to believe that a woman would enjoy being spanked hard. My last wife use to sexually abuse me, I didn't find any of it arousing, she enjoyed it. Said it made her feel powerful. It was a huge turn off for me.

So can a woman over look the fact that this guy enjoys inflicting pain because of all his other desirable traits? I need some enlightenment here on how women think. With all the talk these days about abuse and here we have a novel that seems to encourage it.

All the things he does for her when he isn't hurting her I understand, but to inflict pain and she wants him to stay???

I am confused.
 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 257
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/28/2012 2:55:18 PM

I find it hard to believe that a woman would enjoy being spanked hard.


If you think from a women's perspective, they have to deal with pain a lot more often than do men.

First time sex often involves pain. Anal sex often involved pain.

Periods once a month can be painful.

Childbirth is one of the most painful experiences around.

It's not a big stretch to think pain and sex can be associated with each other. Some women like it for various reasons, it isn't all that uncommon.
 Love.Notes
Joined: 7/27/2012
Msg: 258
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/28/2012 3:03:47 PM
Soft Limit - Spanking my ass.

Hard Limit- spanking my ass with a belt. HELL NO WAY
 Twitch369
Joined: 1/17/2012
Msg: 259
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/28/2012 4:28:28 PM

With all the talk these days about abuse and here we have a novel that seems to encourage it.

The novel in no way encourages abuse, in fact it makes it very clear that this is consensual. That being said, I still didn't like the book, but your opinions on pain and pleasure are a little off. Many people find pain mixed in with their pleasure quite enjoyable. I know I do. Hell, hair pulling and spanking are pretty 'vanilla' (to steal the wording from the book) nowadays.
 bijinfinder
Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 260
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Posted: 8/29/2012 6:30:33 AM
I must be niave, being raised not to hurt women, this seems all to foreign to me. I was in a couple of relationships where the women wanted me to be abusive with them. One wanted me to yell at her and physically push her around. Then she would turn it around and say I was abusive with her. Another wanted me to force myself on her, tear her clothes off, and basically rape her. I found both of these relationships uncomfortable. I have met women who would tell me with in the first five minutes that they had been abused by their husbands. In a short time I realized that these women encouraged this kind of behavior from men. I would get the hell away from these women fast.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 262
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 2:15:04 PM
I have read about the first 260 pages, I find it hard to believe that a woman would enjoy being spanked hard. My last wife use to sexually abuse me, I didn't find any of it arousing, she enjoyed it. Said it made her feel powerful. It was a huge turn off for me.

Abuse is NEVER acceptable.

So can a woman over look the fact that this guy enjoys inflicting pain because of all his other desirable traits?

There are people, men AND women who find pleasure in pain. Sensations are different for all people. Whether one likes a light tap on the bottom or floggers/crops/etc, hair pulling, face slapping or whatever has absolutely nothing to do with other traits. Some people, do indeed, like pain. (Hence, why there are terms for Sadists and masochists.)

I need some enlightenment here on how women think. With all the talk these days about abuse and here we have a novel that seems to encourage it.

The series does NOT condone nor promote abuse.

All the things he does for her when he isn't hurting her I understand, but to inflict pain and she wants him to stay???
I am confused.

There's not enough time/room here to get into BDSM 101 but for the sake of putting your mind at ease, I'll just mention that you're not confused. This just isn't your thing. Nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of us out here that enjoy certain aspects of BDSM and there are those who want nothing to do with it. This is just the joy of personal preferences.

I must be niave, being raised not to hurt women, this seems all to foreign to me. I was in a couple of relationships where the women wanted me to be abusive with them. One wanted me to yell at her and physically push her around. Then she would turn it around and say I was abusive with her. Another wanted me to force myself on her, tear her clothes off, and basically rape her. I found both of these relationships uncomfortable.

All that matters is that you found these actions uncomfortable. This doesn't mean the women were in some way damaged (although they may have been, I don't know.) There are many people who enjoy "rape play" (the key word here, being PLAY.) There are also plenty of people who enjoy degradation/humiliation (both men AND women.) If it wasn't something you were comfortable with, you were wise to vacate the relationship.

I have met women who would tell me with in the first five minutes that they had been abused by their husbands. In a short time I realized that these women encouraged this kind of behavior from men. I would get the hell away from these women fast.

Consensual BDSM is not abuse. And I seriously doubt that women who've been abused are the least bit interested in BDSM in it's true context. Much like a rape survivor isn't likely to want anything to do with rape-play. I don't believe those women you speak of are encouraging abuse. Since you attest you are an abuse victim, maybe you perceive things from a "victim" stance versus being open-minded to the reality that not everyone has the same sexual appetite. ***shrugs*** JMO
 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 263
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 4:04:57 PM
I have a question about this book.

Is 50 shades basically the same as these other two erotic books that cover BDSM subjects?

When I was a teenager, I read these two similar books.

1) The Way of a Man with a Maid
2) The Story of O

No one has ever discovered who wrote the first one, and it may have been first published
in 1908.

The Story of O was written by a woman with a publication date 1954.

I am not likely to ever read 50 Shades of Grey, thus my question.

They all seem to cover the same sort of subject matter as far as I can glean from what people have said about the newer book. No doubt it will be made into a movie, maybe I will see the movie.
 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 264
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 4:07:50 PM
Fleuron,

Since some people are so inclined to waste their money on crap, I could probably spew out a couple books before morning and rake in the dough. I’ve got a thesaurus, an extensive knowledge of adverbs and more than a few naughty ideas.


No doubt the author is making millions on the books, so if you could write crap that sells that well you won't have to work again in your life. Go for it.

But I think writing anything that a lot of people want to buy is harder than you make it.
 staceyhere4now
Joined: 7/3/2012
Msg: 265
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 4:13:29 PM
lol mommy porn.. i just finished the 2nd book and gonna start the 3rd soon, i'm sure
 15111958
Joined: 12/6/2011
Msg: 266
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 4:29:05 PM

lol mommy porn.. i just finished the 2nd book and gonna start the 3rd soon, i'm sure


When you've finished the third book if you want to come over and tell me all about it you can. Then maybe we can act out some of the scenes from the books. What do you think?
 SSC-SAF
Joined: 5/20/2012
Msg: 267
50 Shades of Grey
Posted: 8/29/2012 6:28:11 PM
@DragonBits:

I have a question about this book.

Is 50 shades basically the same as these other two erotic books that cover BDSM subjects?

When I was a teenager, I read these two similar books.

1) The Way of a Man with a Maid
2) The Story of O

I have not read the first one, but I have read The Story of O many times. Comparing 50 Shades to that classic work of erotic literature is like comparing a slim volume of Harlequin romance to Pride and Prejudice.
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