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 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
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Bottom line is it's time for Obama to go!

Because he's too spendy? The problem is that the GOP is just as spendy as the Dems; they just have different priorities in how the money is spent. The military industrial complex would love Romney, while the prison industrial complex stands to profit with either candidate.

I can see someone voting for Romney if they:

-want to be free not to have health insurance and be a drain on society later
-make more than $250,000/yr
-work in the defense industry
-are unemployed and think a different president will change that
-are social conservatives/theocrats

Otherwise, I don't see much to be gained under Romney.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 11/2/2012 7:16:28 AM

I can see someone voting for Romney if they:


You might add:

You are a white guy.


Otherwise, I don't see much to be gained under Romney.


Those who stand to lose with Mr Romney"

Minorities

Women

Gays

The middle class
 ORALROBERT2
Joined: 10/18/2012
Msg: 228
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Posted: 11/2/2012 7:38:20 AM
Apologizing profusly......"I am a white guy..........." White guilt has practically driven this country down the road to euro-status. Let's not go there again.............
 sweetest
Joined: 10/8/2007
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Posted: 11/2/2012 8:52:02 AM

Obama pulls ahead in Real Clear Politics polling average

The Real Clear Politics national polling average shows President Obama with a narrow lead over Mitt Romney, for the first time since the first debate.

The average shows Obama with 47.5 percent support, compared with Romney at 47.2 percent.

Romney had pulled ahead after the first debate, which gave him a bounce in the polls, and then maintained about a 1-point lead over the last few weeks.

The Nation - November 2, 2012






November 02, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the race tied, with President Obama and Mitt Romney each attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide.

....

“It’s somewhat surprising that heading into the final weekend of the election season, we are unable to confidently project who is likely to win the White House,” Scott Rasmussen writes in his latest weekly newspaper column.

Rasmussen: Obama 48%, Romney 48%

Rasmussen Reports



Private sector Job Growth FIRST 45 MONTHS IN OFFICE:

Obama (+759,000), Bush (-1,168,000)

In First 45 Months In Office, Obama Created 750,000 Private Sector Jobs, Bush Lost More Than One Million

Think Progress November 2, 2012
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 6/22/2012
Msg: 230
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:44:21 AM
All I wanted to say is get your ass to the polls and VOTE. Whatever preachy wizardry of statistics and opinion have been vomited forth in this thread doesn't mean a hill of beans if you don't make your mark.

The only voters I want to stay home are the worthless D-bags who think they should Only and Always vote for the clear "winner". Use your spine for something other than bending over backwards to the loudest opinions out there. Whatever your slant on politics, your arguments are invalid if you can't stand up for yourself and pick the best choice. VOTE!
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 231
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:48:10 AM
Best post I've read in these forums in MONTHS! ....VOTE!....amen!
 Padawan61
Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 11/4/2012 8:39:15 PM
Bottom line is it's time for Obama to go!

It's gonna be a tight race.

And it's not like Americans have much of a choice in government style. It's either Republican or Democrat. Yankees swing back and forth at each election.

There was an article in today's local paper of Romney vs Obama. An Elephant logo was beside Romney and a Donkey logo was beside Obama. Can my American friends tell me why Republicans are represented by an Elephant while Democrats are represented by a Donkey??
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 233
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:00:24 PM
Uhh, is it because elephants are big and strong , but donkeys are just another word for A$$ ?
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:01:01 PM
Mitt Romney will win presidential election... because Redskins lost to Panthers

Coinicident? In 17 of the 18 Redskins seasons that coincided with a presidential election since 1940, if team wins, so does incumbent party


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/skin-game-pro-mitt-omen-article-1.1196641#ixzz2BJy1yqW9
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:15:04 PM

The dow has moved from 6600 to the mid 13's

The US economy has moved steadily forward while the world economy has floundered

The US is ready to takeover the world lead in oil production from the Saudi's

The housing market is turning around after being decimated at the end of the last administration.

The US has had jobs growth while the rest of the world is in economic slow-down

And all this with a non-partisan congress that has done absolutely nothing to forward the interests of the nation.


Awww. That's so cute. You folks actually thnk there's a way out of the giant financial disaster you've created for yourselves.
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 236
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:22:48 PM
^^^^^^
"And all this with a non-partisan congress that has done absolutely nothing to forward the interests of the nation."

Aren't we overlooking the first 2 years of his royal highness's reign? Or do those not count?
 Iredurbio2
Joined: 3/6/2009
Msg: 237
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:48:48 PM
I think Carter was long gone when the banking commitee Sen glen,Sen Mccain let the banks de-regulate and
Chuck Keating and the likes had the tax payers bailing them out.Keating did time.This time around The banks
got bonuses.We the complaisant people of this country Have had a big hand in it's current mess!
Since this is a race,Here they are on the final stretch bridle to bridle Obamas crowd are screaming white trash Mit
Mits are screaming get off the lawn, jockey! Here they are at the wire and it's gonna be obama by a snot bubble!
 59thShadeofGrey
Joined: 9/25/2012
Msg: 238
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Posted: 11/5/2012 10:20:05 AM

In First 45 Months In Office, Obama Created 750,000 Private Sector Jobs, Bush Lost More Than One Million


We shouldn't try to confuse people with facts. ;-)

Conservative logic cannot be bothered with such drivel. The Republicans are demanding the keys back to the car THEY crashed - because the new driver isn't getting out of the ditch fast enough....
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 239
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Posted: 11/5/2012 11:27:38 AM

Here they are at the wire and it's gonna be obama by a snot bubble!

I agree-- I predict a narrow Obama victory. Many righties in these forums have been quick to trash talk for the past year how Obama will surely be gone after this first term. It has made me wonder if they know something I do not. As the day nears, it becomes apparent to me that they do not.
 sweetest
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:54:29 PM

Free market defenders agree: Vote Obama

Why did the Financial Times and other defenders of the free market endorse Obama?
Because Romney can't be trusted

It’s easy to have fun with the news that two stalwart defenders of the free market, the Financial Times and the Economist, have both endorsed that crazy Muslim socialist Barack Obama for President of the United States.

But that’s not the surprising part. Both publications endorsed Obama in 2008. Both are willing to (grudgingly) compliment the president for arresting the plummet towards an economic depression, and both are reasonably happy with his calm approach to foreign policy.

What’s surprising is that they didn’t endorse Romney. Because they desperately, desperately would have loved to do so, if Mitt had just given them one good reason.

The Economist headline captures this regret –”America could do better than Barack Obama; sadly, Mitt Romney does not fit the bill.”

Sadly! One gets a strong visual image here of an English peer of the realm, tapping the ash off his stogie while staring moodily at a map of the world, and declaiming: “The British Empire had so much to offer ; sadly those ungrateful wretches in the colonies wanted nothing of it.”

In a normal universe, stodgy believers in the primacy of the free market over Big Government would be falling over themselves to endorse a titan of business.

Romney’s alienation of what should have been his core demographic is shocking.

Both publications claim that, notwithstanding Obama’s successes, his term has been a disappointment. (The Economist rues his “anti-business” stance, and both editorial writers are very unhappy that the president somehow did not manage to solve the budget deadlock.) But they still can’t bring themselves to believe in Romney — of whom, the Economist writes, brutally, “Mr Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says.”

For both papers, the primary issue comes down to trust. Romney’s constant shifts in ideology make it difficult to believe in anything he says. Even worse, if you take him at face value right now, he makes no sense.

The Financial Times:

The more serious objection to Mr Romney is that he has gone through so many contortions to win his party’s nomination that it is hard to see how he would govern in practice. His wishlist includes an aspiration to raise Pentagon spending by a fifth while cutting everyone’s taxes and still somehow balancing the books. Such fiscal alchemy is an exercise in evasion, not a recipe for sustainable economic recovery.

The Economist:

Obama’s shortcomings have left ample room for a pragmatic Republican, especially one who could balance the books and overhaul government. Such a candidate briefly flickered across television screens in the first presidential debate. This newspaper would vote for that Mitt Romney, just as it would for the Romney who ran Democratic Massachusetts in a bipartisan way (even pioneering the blueprint for Obamacare).

The problem is that there are a lot of Romneys and they have committed themselves to a lot of dangerous things.

Previous generations of Economist and Financial Times editors might have convinced themselves to believe in the inner-capitalist Romney rather than in the severely-conservative-moderate Romney, but this time around, the nature of the GOP beast seems to have scared them off. The Economist puts it best:

…, the Republicans have become a party of Torquemadas, forcing representatives to sign pledges never to raise taxes, to dump the chairman of the Federal Reserve and to embrace an ever more Southern-fried approach to social policy.

There’s your the bottom-line. The Republican brand has become so sullied that the ultimate defenders of market-based economics don’t want to trust it with more power.

Far better to let a Big Government interventionist hold the reins, than the 2012 incarnation of the GOP. That tells you everything you need to know about the state of American politics, this November.

Salon - Monday November 5, 2012


^^^How interesting....

It's getting curiouser and curioser....

The Economist and the Financial Times come out AGAINST dynamic 'money mavens' Romney and Ryan and their 'plan'.

Last week I posted a letter about a Repbulican Forbes contributor that is handing in his membership to the party because he doesn't recognize the GOP anymore, and can't be aligned with them personally ---

Micheal Bloomberg of Bloomberg Financial is throwing his support behind the President.

What's interesting is to note that none of above-listed financial papers are giving a whole-hearted endorsement of the President; they are mixed, they mirror how many feel---while most wished the President had been able to do more, they see that this Republican ticket is not offering real options.

Romney and Ryan = unelectable.
Each with their own particular blighted brand; but joined by lies.

Mitt Romney in particular shows in the audacity of his lies, a disrespect of the electorate...a disrespect of the American people. His campaign is about 'the hidden'....His arrogance to suggest that we can 'trust him', and 'believe' that he has the way, but for some reason...is unable to tell us.

I don't know any money guys like that, and EVEN if I did, I wouldn't hire them---would you?

The death knell for Romney's ascendence to the Whitehouse will fall on the fact that he is simply not a man of honor and that he cannot on any level, be trusted.

It hardly rings honorable when one tramples on one of the country's key worldwide brands and seem to not care a jot at the discomfort of those finally back to work. His most recent lies have hurt Ohioans and the brand name of one of the nation's and world's key businesses . <<< How can anyone believe he would be good for business?

Unrepentant, he continues....

Note: If he's willing to do something so intiutively and so utterly wrong in 'campaign-kiss-up mode', it should really disturb and make one wonder what he might get up to, if elected.
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
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Posted: 11/5/2012 2:32:05 PM
Health Law Spurs Shift in Hours

The Wall Street JournalBy Julie Jargon | The Wall Street Journal – 5 hours ago

"Pillar Hotels & Resorts this summer began to focus more on hiring part-time workers among its 5,500 employees, after the Supreme Court upheld the health-care overhaul, said Chief Executive Chris Russell. The company has 210 franchise hotels, under the Sheraton, Fairfield Inns, Hampton Inns and Holiday Inns brands.

"The tendency is to say, 'Let me fill this position with a 40-hour-a-week employee,' " said Mr. Russell. "I think we have to think differently."

Pillar offers health insurance to employees who work 32 hours a week or more, but only half take it, and Mr. Russell wants to limit his exposure to rising health-care costs. He said he planned to pursue new segments of the population, such as senior citizens, to find workers willing to accept part-time employment. "
(excerpted)

What does business think of Obamacare? Read for yourself.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 242
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Posted: 11/5/2012 4:22:20 PM
"What does business think of Obamacare? Read for yourself"

This would be laughable, if it weren't so sad!

Long before Obamacare, long before Obama was in Congress, Walmart was used as an example, of the practice of hiring part time workers, to avoid giving benefits to the majority of their workers. It was part of their business model. To offer lower priced goods, mainly manufactured offshore in foreign countries, at lower prices, to drive out of business the local merchants.

Those merchants often employed people full-time and gave them benefits. Walmart would ALWAYS staff the store with a majority of part-time workers, to avoid giving them benefits, to increase profits. And who do you think would be the first to jump on the "eliminate the minimum wage" express? ...you betcha...WALMART!!! Who probably has 100,000 of them.

Since this and other anti-labor practices have been going on at Walmart since way back in the 90's. What is more likely, that other companies and their bean-counters decided an easy way to save money would be to copy Walmart, or that OMG moment when the ACA was passed.

Since throughout the entire shrub presidency, the move by most companies, was to offshore jobs, in order to NOT offer benefits. Now they use this as an excuse...can't you hear them "sniff sniff, gee guys we have to make you part time because of the ACA, because we can't afford it"....then one executive turns to the other..."hey tom, when's the big meeting to vote ourselves bonuses, because we saved a truckload, eliminating health benefits!"

You guys make me ill....
 statemachine500
Joined: 8/25/2011
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Posted: 11/5/2012 4:33:54 PM

Those merchants often employed people full-time and gave them benefits. Walmart would ALWAYS staff the store with a majority of part-time workers, to avoid giving them benefits, to increase profits. And who do you think would be the first to jump on the "eliminate the minimum wage" express? ...you betcha...WALMART!!! Who probably has 100,000 of them.


It's not like the four heirs to the Walmart fortune are hurting either.A few years back they split Sam's fortune into four,they were ranked quite high on the list of wealthiest people.They still haven't overtaken Gates,they must be passing off the cash at a rapid rate to the grandchildren.Or hiding it.How much do you need in a lifetime?
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:43:02 PM
^^^^^^
Gee guys, I'm really hurt that you don't agree with the companies decision.
Way back when, I went to business school, and at that time they told us we were expected
to MAKE money. No idea what the business schools teach today, maybe it's "save the whales",
or "give your union boss a hug", maybe "go blow on the windmill and make some energy" :)
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:53:08 PM

Gee guys, I'm really hurt that you don't agree with the companies decision.
Way back when, I went to business school, and at that time they told us we were expected
to MAKE money.

No one is saying that you can't.

Though did they mention anything about creating a workforce that is more reliant on government programs and thus more of a burden on the tax payer as a bad thing?




No idea what the business schools teach today, maybe it's "save the whales",
or "give your union boss a hug", maybe "go blow on the windmill and make some energy" :)

Maybe it is think of your social responsibly as an employer?

Is it ethical to ask someone to give up their life for a wage that does not cover the necessities?

Do you really think a country is better off when the burden of relief is placed on the tax payer and not the employer?
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 246
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:57:28 PM
Ahhh...first off, the key thing is this move away from benefits, is much longer BEFORE the ACA legislation, so it is a bogus argument.

How bout this, the cost of gasoline keeps going up, so we will no longer have trucks, all customers must come pick up their merchandise! As silly as that sounds, it's very similar, to the argument you people are making. I'm sure in business school, they taught you about the cost to do business.

Another, it's you guys who have this wistful hard-on for the 50's...back then many companies offered benefits, and the ones that didn't were moving in that direction. Now it's OK to eat and screw your own.

Another of those iconic moments in politics...republicans claim "class warfare"! Well exactly what is taking benefits away from the people who work for you? What's that tiddly-winks? Hahahaha!!!

Reminds me of the age old conundrum of business...a salaried employee is asked to work an extra 4 hours a week, because he needs to make a sacrifice for their little family of a business or to be a 'team player'...2 months later he asks for a 1/2 day off and is told "hey, what do you think this is a family? I'm trying to run a business here!"

As for your whales, hugs, windmill...that;s just horseshit, to obfiscate the issue...
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
Msg: 247
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Posted: 11/6/2012 7:29:10 PM
So, at 8:30 pm Mountain time, here in Colorado, Obama and Romney tied with 163 electoral votes each. 270 required to win. We could see Obama win the election (electoral votes) even though Romney gets the popular vote! What a close one!
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
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Posted: 11/6/2012 8:28:44 PM
Obama won Ohio and the election.

I hope the popular vote is not moot. I believe that previous elections have had a result that have shown the President-elect that a majority popular vote can indicate the direction required to unite the nation.

Go yo politify.com to project the economic impact this may have on you by 2015.


Let's push for an impeachment!!!

Based on what?
 Jennywillwin
Joined: 12/27/2011
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Posted: 11/6/2012 8:29:26 PM
I may puke ...that is saying a lot since I haven't puked since 1987 :( The reality of Obama having another four years to destroy our constitution is too much. Let's push for an impeachment!!!
 Westley_Auryn
Joined: 8/6/2012
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Posted: 11/6/2012 8:45:37 PM
I predict the next 4 years will be more sitting around a table and trying to compromise on things that won't pan out. lol
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