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 Stormwolf
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No one will want to hear the name Bush associated with American Presidency ..for eternity!
 statemachine500
Joined: 8/25/2011
Msg: 277
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Posted: 11/10/2012 7:45:02 PM

I think the bush name will only get worse as time passes. I believe that once enough time has passed to declassify some documents... mud will be a great name compared to bush. The rug under which a lot of dirt is hidden and/or protected won't be there forever.


Don't hold your breath waiting for declassification.Material concerning Vietnam was redacted a few years ago....some material from WWII has to wait 75 years.Some material concerning the British in Ireland is almost 100 years old.
 Jennywillwin
Joined: 12/27/2011
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:05:11 PM
As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.


15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States (Article title)

http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:12:16 PM
Note: these STATES did not petition to secede. The headline is a falsehood.

From the article:

"These citizen generated petitions..."

It's a put up fake movement, designed to generate controversy and to insult the second Obama administration.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 280
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Posted: 11/11/2012 9:24:26 PM
Yes they asked to form a new nation they will be called FUBAR!

They've nominated daffy duck for president, homer simpson for VP, in the cabinet will be Miss piggy as head of the FDA, Boris betinoff for head of the CIA, scrooge McDuck for secretary of the Treasury, Willie Cyotte for secretary of the interior...and of course Popeye will head their version of the joint chiefs...

Th-th-th-thats all folks!
 VGLGuySksFun
Joined: 10/12/2011
Msg: 281
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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:56:57 AM
One has to laugh at the Republican adult adolescence...

Let me see if i have this right...

Texas has racked up about 100,000 signatures. Six others from Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee have collected 30,000. Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York have all collected 25000 signatures.

Of these 15 states... Texas, Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, and Kentucky... 12 RED states... which RECEIVE more federal assistance per person than they pay in... all want to secede? Considering many of these states also number among the lowest in terms of k to 12 education, maybe it shouldn't be that big a surprise. Do they not realize or appreciate how much sucking they're doing on the government teet?

For chuckles... lets say we pull all of the military and other federally sponsored programs (NASA, etc.) out of TX and they secede. How long will it be before the Mexican military rolls in and reclaims them as a state? Then they can belong to Mexico instead of the U.S.! And when any of those red neck boys want to emigrate to the remaining U.S., they'll of course go through the legitimate immigration process. lol
 MacInOC
Joined: 2/19/2012
Msg: 282
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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:45:43 AM
From what the news says, if they get 25,000 signatures in 30 days, they have to get an "official" response from the administration. Could be fun reading the responses.


Then they can belong to Mexico instead of the U.S.!

I'm guessing you haven't been to California lately. In essence already done. And why would the Mexican military get involved when they have the U.S. border and immigration service doing it for them.


And when any of those red neck boys want to emigrate to the remaining U.S., they'll of course go through the legitimate immigration process.


LOL! Funny. Like the U.S. has a good track record of protecting borders? I'll just walk right in like illegals do now. And amnesty will be in place by then.
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
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Posted: 11/16/2012 10:20:30 AM
Even though Texas Governor Rick Perry made some crazy comment about secession during his bid for presidency it was simply a tool he used to get votes.

He has already told those petitioning that he is not going to seek secession. Our Attorney General Eric Holder has concurred with Governor Perry's position on the subject.

Governor Perry is, however, still not budging on his position about the Affordable Healthcare Act so it may well be that the federal government has to step in to provide the 27% of the Texas population with healthcare.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 284
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Posted: 11/16/2012 10:20:47 AM
Here's a new petition that was just submitted to the White House:

we petition the obama administration to:

Strip the citizenship of all those who signed petitions to secede from the United States of America.

The United States fought a bloody civil war to decide once and for all to remain a UNITED States of America.

Any person who signs a petition for secession of their state, should be deemed to have forfeited their rights as an American.

The person may select a person on the waiting list to get into this country from another land. The person who signed the petition is to physically trade places with that person who wishes to be an American.

Real Americans appreciate other Americans.

If these so-called American want to leave - let them.

We need people who want to be here.

Created: Nov 14, 2012

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-all-those-who-signed-petitions-secede-united-states-america/G4pwtw0v



oh forget it...there's a petition from disgruntled repuglicants from every state...


I just signed the strip citizenship petition
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
Msg: 285
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:02:13 AM
Oh ... Haha! So the people that lost their marbles over the election are attempting to pick them up from the playground and stomp home!?!? :33:

As if Texas (who asked to join the Union in 1845) hasn't thrown this tantrum repeatedly since 1861 (when it "seceded" from the Union to join the Confederacy).
The latest "threat" was the Texas House Concurrent Resolution 50, passed under Perry in 2009, which proclaims the "Sovereignty" of Texas (and which has no bearing at the Federal level).

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

What a bunch of butt-hurt posturing. Good riddance! :bye:
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:12:50 AM
Perhaps this is can be the subject of a new thread, if everyone wants to discuss it, or cares to start it?

I doubt this old Obama/romney thread is really the place for such a discussion, even though his mittnesses defeat is partially the root cause of this movement. The idea to secede, is based on more issues than just the election.

As mentioned already, we "been there, done that, got the t-shirt" once already, 150 years ago. The bloodiest war in our history, fought on our own soil, brother against brother. What we learned is the union will stand.

I am all for these folks signing this petition. They are engaging in their right to protest. Just like those who participated in the OWS movement. Now for their trouble, the OWS folks were, arrested, harassed and dispersed.

Why should these folks be treated differently? Ahhh, but there's the rub! See the OWS crowd only committed misdemeanors in their quest to see the people punished who brought us to the brink of economic extinction. These folks are commting the act of treason and sedition against the USA.

So let them have at it. Collect the names, have one mass trial, pass sentence revoking their citizenship. Then collect them and ship them out of the country, without passports. Then has been alluded to, many can slip back into the country through our pourous borders.

Now comes the fun, they are now spies and traitors on foreign soil. Either expand Gitmo quite a bit. Or simply start holding mass executions, when they are caught. Oh and they would be caught. Quite apart from the gun and militia crowd, these armchair revolutionaries, wouldn't fare well, without their social security checks, which btw, would be null and void for non-citizens.

Nor could they find employment, with stricter rules, and employee verification. Think of the job creation? If we rounded up and shipped out say 500,000 malcontents...instantly you get 500,000 jobs, or reduce government payouts for SS and medicare for all of them!!!! They lose their rights to due process, because they no longer exist as US citizens...they become simply an INS problem!

Enough of this daydreaming....hahahahaha!!! Half a million wack-a-dos..hell bent on a tantrum, hardly constitutes anything...most of them are simply blowhards screaming "mommy it hurts, make it stop" due to an election loss based on this idiot that the republicans nominated and who still is acting like a privileged snot, after losing.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:20:14 AM
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15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States (Article title)

That is 100% false.

No States have filed a petition to secede, only some individuals from certain states have filed petitions.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 288
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:33:36 AM

It seems a joke, but could be taken very seriously because it is an act of treason.


Yanno....some ppl are just plain ole crazy...and this type of treasonous stuff is similar, in the potential to bring out the crazy loony-tune evangelicals, as was the Palin bullseye targeting senators who were vulnerable...i.e. Gabby Gifford...

I envision some hillbilly gathering up his musket and heading out to shoot him some Yankees.
 grizzelda
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:44:41 AM
Have a listen to this fella...

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/popupaudio.html?clipIds=2305340798

If he is indicative of who is looking to secede, it is no wonder....
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:53:35 AM
Since Texas passed the Texas House Concurrent Resolution 50, under Perry in 2009, which proclaims the "Sovereignty" of Texas, I propose that they have all Congressional representation revoked to include suspending voting privileges of its citizens at the Federal level.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:55:40 AM

If he is indicative of who is looking to secede, it is no wonder....


Some guy who ran a topless carwash wants to sucede from the union....who claims Lincoln was a war monger...yep...there ya go.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:56:37 PM

" I am just interested in one thing, and that is without bias: what aspects of life have improved for you Americans since Obama is in the White House ?"

The top 1% have done fantastic, as they have accounted for some 93% of the income gains under that totally commie Marxist you guys have in charge down there.

Though I have it on good authority that it is one of his Jedi mind tricks, and really just a trap as maybe he knows that wealth gain is also directly tied to weight gain which means higher health care costs which means more money for obamacare.

So IMO clearly a clever trap of a brilliant Marxist.





The light at the end of the tunnel doesn't sound like a train coming.

You where on a sinking ship, that ship is not longer sinking, but it is also not 100% seaworthy and if Obama does not call bullshit on the GOP if they start with any of their bs to stall or block legislation then he can only be judged at patching the ship but not fully fixing it.

It he stands up to the bullies then he will have done something, but if he continues to bend over for them, then forget it, you all are screwed, unless you are part of the 1% that controls 50% of the money, then you will be fine and in fact you will be much better than fine.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 5:52:52 PM

12 RED states... which RECEIVE more federal assistance per person than they pay in... all want to secede?


yep; stupidity is, what stupidity does. Now we know how so many of these pple in these states were easily duped by the GOP.
 Aries_328
Joined: 10/16/2011
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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:32:16 PM

So, before you go blowing ... I mean trumpeting the presidents miraculous prowess try putting the feet on the ground a bit and seeing what happens next. Iran is happy. Why is that? We will be at war by the end of the year. Terrorism will dramatically increase. The economy will fall soon after 2014 begins.


Quoting myself from another thread a little while back.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-says-obama-again-talks-with-netanyahu-on-gaza-attacks-calls-for-de-escalation/2012/11/16/32eb2b26-304a-11e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html

Obama reiterated U.S. support for Israel’s right to self-defense and discussed possible ways to scale back the conflict, the White House said. It did not offer specifics.

Separately, Obama called Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi on Friday and praised Egypt’s efforts to ease tensions in the region, the White House said. Obama expressed hope that Egypt’s efforts would be successful, officials said.

In both calls, Obama expressed regret for the loss of Israeli and Palestinian civilian lives and underscored the importance of resolving the situation as quickly as possible.

Obama also spoke with the Israeli and Egyptian leaders on Wednesday.


He has no clue what he is doing. None. He is not even trying. We will be drug in by the end of the year. He doesn't give a crap.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 11/17/2012 6:43:58 AM

We will be drug in by the end of the year. He doesn't give a crap.


This would make the chickenhawks of the GOP very happy....fortunately, it's way off base...President Obama,ecretary Clinton,. and Secretary Panetta have a better grasp of world affairs and diplomacy than the past GOP administration...and seem greatly deposed to having boots on the ground in any world conflict.
 hplazerjet
Joined: 11/1/2012
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Posted: 11/17/2012 4:21:11 PM
If only they could actually be "deposed."
Thanks for the chuckle.
 IgorFrankensteen
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Posted: 11/18/2012 7:08:35 AM
Yeah, BigBadNIrish, I think you meant to say that the Obama administration "seem greatly disinclined to having boots on the ground."
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 11/18/2012 7:12:49 AM
Yeah, BigBadNIrish, I think you meant to say that the Obama administration "seem greatly disinclined to having boots on the ground."


LOL...Igor it was a fraudian slip for the GOP'sters who wish to secede...perhaps undisposed might have been the word?
 last chance creek
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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:38:31 PM
I thought this was a thoughtful discussion until your rant. Do you understand at all that you are the problem. Your talking points have no factual base.
 LOLTrump
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Posted: 5/17/2017 7:31:39 PM
hey guy's remember me?

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