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 Red_5
Joined: 1/23/2010
Msg: 26
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Weeb,

I get the same thing in Alabama...no biggie. I just gave up after 1992 to post signs in my yard for non-Republicans.

It seems that the folks hear like to wade through ten feet of poison ivy and briars at 2:00 am to make a political point.

Fine with me!
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 10/18/2012 2:32:09 PM
I'm voting for Romney and not because i'm a rep, but because i'm very dissapointed in Obama's performance in the last 4 years .I like Obama on a personal level, i'd think he's be a cool guy to drink a couple of beers with and watch a sports game, so it's nothing personal, but when it comes to policies that's a whole diff story. The only change i've seen is negative change from more people out of work to trillions of more dollars wracked up in debt and a that's change i don't want to continue to believe in.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 10/18/2012 2:41:25 PM
Allowing Wall St. to steal TRILLIONS is not an improvement over Bush


I agree, but I am not aware of anything in the Constitution or any later legislation or Supreme Court decisions, that would permit any President to single-handedly intercede between corporate America, and their targeted money piles.

Last I heard, that's all up to Congress at best, and even they have limits.

The reason that the people who stole the trillions of dollars that put us into this mess, were able to play the games they did, was because of decisions made, and laws passed back in the early 80's, at least. By Congress. Changes made under Reagan were a part of it, as were some under Clinton and under Bush I and II. Deregulation played a part, as did back-handed "nice acts" that led employers to get rid of direct full time employees, and replace them with "contractors." Allowing employers to avoid paying into Social Security (by outsourcing, artificially reducing individual workers hours, etc), despite continuing to use up peoples lives to make profits is a part of the problem too. Failure to address unfair competitive practices overseas over at least FIVE decades didn't help, and adding "free trade" agreements which failed to address human rights in any way shape or form, reduced anyone's ability to respond in any way that didn't resemble our imitating a cheap piece of doormat carpet.

I hope that if Romney does win (polls favor him now) that he will actually deliver on the insane sounding promises he is making (12 million new jobs in a few years? I'm skeptical). But it still depends more on Congress, and I'm sorry to say, I don't see any clear-thinking people leading either side of the aisle.
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
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Posted: 10/18/2012 3:10:36 PM
Speaking hopefully briefly about the financial collapse that caused the recession, there was a recent episode of 6o minutes where the bankruptcy attorney for Lehman Bros. - which most everyone agrees was the first card to fall in this crisis - uncovered piles of evidence of widespread corruption. The SEC had an office ON SITE and some of the players in this have appeared before Congress. Basically the SEC said, we weren't sure what they were doing......HUH? The CRIME really is that noone has to date been brought to justice and treated to a vacation in federal prison.

Part of the problem with this and Enron is that the collusion is so widespread. It wasn't just Enron and their auditors (was it Anderson?), attorney firms, Moody's Rating, and investment bankers. The mortgage products they were "creating" ignored the basic principles of investing, BETTING that housing prices would continue to climb, and allowing potential homeowners to "qualify" for loans ignoring any sane formulas for ability to repay. The mortgage underwriters were approving and selling mortgages like hotcakes and making a TON of money. Moodys rated these investments MUCH higher than they knew should have been, so investment bankers also rubber stamped and everyone went home with fat wallets. That's at least a small capsule of part of what happened.

Corporations and other organizations, which are increasingly global, multinational, should have NO involvement in government, or be allowed to influence politics. Yes, I realize that's idealistic, but the constitution says "BY the people and FOR the people". PERIOD. The people, US citizens should be the only ones allowed to contribute to elections, the government is supposed to be working FOR us, so shouldn't it be US who supports who we feel is best for the position? I know that's way too logical for politics.
 Red_5
Joined: 1/23/2010
Msg: 30
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Posted: 10/18/2012 4:06:19 PM
The joke running around Alabama is that Nick Saban, the Crimson Tide coach, and BO have been in office just as long.

Nick Saban also was left a mess.

In four years, he's won the BCS twice and is gunning for a third trophy.

What has BO done?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 31
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Posted: 10/19/2012 9:38:08 AM
Also... on a personal level... I have decided to end any friendships with die hard liberals in my life. I do not care to be friends with them if they are willing to go to a socialized system.


Ya mean I no longer have to listen to your commie/socialist/muslim conspiracy theories...about reverse racism...about how my parents are bleeding social security and medicare dry...say it ain't so...how will I ever get by???
 Sciencetreker
Joined: 2/13/2012
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Posted: 10/19/2012 2:39:32 PM
It's hard to know if democracy can be all that effective at the national level in a country with over 300 million people. Folks talk about left/right and conservative/liberal but most voting patterns are ethnic and regional.

It takes a srong personaslity to cut through the differences. Reagan and Clinton did it...not so much Bush and Obama.

Obama has been largely ineffective but Romney's only appeal seems to be that he's not Obama. Anyways, Americans will decide if 4 more years of the same is a preferred choice to taking a chance on the other guy. Not exactly the most positive of reasons to make a selection.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 33
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Posted: 10/19/2012 7:03:53 PM
DRRK says:


he hasn't gone after Wall Street, he's given us a terrible healthcare bill which isn't Single Payer and has been more right wing than he purported to be. So, yeah from now on I'm voting Green or Socialist.


Oh sure; and when MR wins; go ask him how hard he is gonna go after WS, and how much social healthcare he is gonna give you! the probability of Jill stein winning is about as good as betting that space aliens land on earth on election day!
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Sweet dan says:


90% to 95% of what the government is DOES NOT CHANGE no matter who gets elected, but that little 5% to 8% of what CAN be changed is what all of the fuss is all about. Seems kind of contrary to all the drama put forth in election advertising, but that's really all there is to it.


This is true^, and it shows that the real power is in the Oligarchy that lies just behind the scenes.
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Dncdes says:


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The Federal Reserve Bank is a private bank - Thomas Jefferson


And the only US president that tried to rid us of the Fed reserve was JFK, and it ended up costing him his life!
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Stray says:


But he wants to end my son's insurance coverage.
and do away with my social security.


This is in line with MR's attitude of either you "swim or you sink". Ever hear of the Battaan death March?


Romney..Ryan...Akin...and the whole zealous ideological lot of them scare the heck out of me.


and what scares me is why more pple aren't just as scared of these guys! This kinda reminds me of how Hitler came to power, by captivating an entire nation.
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Bucs says:


the average voter doesn't know that it's not the full picture and the people who create those ads use that ignorance to their advantage. If it were fully explained, people would fall asleep or be dumbfounded


This is why it is to gov't advantage to keep pple as dumbed down as possible. It would be harder to make a case!
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Hither says:


He's given amnesty to millions of illegals who not only steal work away from real Americans


How many "real" americans you know that wanna cut grass in 100 degree heat; or work as dishwashers at restaurants; or pick things like corn, tomatoes, grapes out in farm lands! Answer: --> not a living soul!


take entry level jobs away from struggling African Americans.


Such as what?
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Lasko says:


one in which you will wait in lines and get substandard care. ( what a mess of ineptness that will be)


Guess what, we already have substandard care; its called HMO healthcare in case you didn't know, and its run by the profiteering private sector. No, we don't wait in lines; we merely get behind-the scenes committees deciding whether or not what your doctor requests is approved or DENIED!


I have decided to end any friendships with die hard liberals in my life...


...except the ones that have big boobs and tight butts!
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Proton says:


Under BO, the average family income has gone DOWN by thousands while the average cost of living for a family has gone UP by thousands


The avg family income has been going down since the mid 80's; and cost of living always has gone up.
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red says;


.I say we blame the Arabs for our current issues and leave it that.


I'd rather blame the Romans; they are the ones who went everywhere looking for cheap goods and cheap labor all the time!
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hither says:


while he polarizes like nobody before has managed to do.


Until Mitt opened his mouth and polarized about47% of all tax payers!
 Sciencetreker
Joined: 2/13/2012
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Posted: 10/20/2012 8:44:50 AM

Romney..Ryan...Akin...and the whole zealous ideological lot of them scare the heck out of me.

and what scares me is why more pple aren't just as scared of these guys! This kinda reminds me of how Hitler came to power, by captivating an entire nation.


Why is it Americans are scared of everything and want everyone else to be scared of the same? It's a bit sad that you guys are such scaredy cats. Fear this...fear that... No wonder you pick crappy leaders.
 Double Cabin
Joined: 11/29/2004
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Posted: 10/20/2012 2:53:10 PM
However dissapointed I am with him on how ever many levels I support the Presdient for several reasons grounded in reality:

1) This Presdient inherited the worst financial crisis in just about any of our lifetimes. With all due respect and IMO it is asinine to suggest returning to the policies that put us in this situation will do anthing but exascerbate a tough situation, it is like sticking a fork in your eye to relieve an earache.

2) I wasn't fond of an economy shedding 3/4 of a million jobs every month.

3) Despite ignorant or deceitful assertions taxes are the lowest they've been since the buck stopped with Truman. Our greatest economies had progressive tax rates, and the President proposes that which helped us so much under Eisenhower and Clinton.

4) We didn't think about paying for the last two "wars" [occupations.] The fact Governor Romney apparently thinks we should start another conflict boggles the mind. The fact Mr. Romeny wants to increase Defense spending when we already spend more on it than the next 18 nations combined isn't going to get us out of debt.

5) This Presdident has not only received more death threats than any other he has had the least cooperative Congress of all time. When the Senate Minority leader stated his number one goal for 4 years was to defeat a Presdient that hadn't even begun to govern I had to wonder if he was even an American at all.

6) I probably would have voted for Governor Romney if he had been the nominee in 2008 unless he did what he's done in 2012. Given his shameless pandering to the lunatic fringe of the right and his consistently convenient flip flopping on just about every issue I logically cannot trust him to follow through on a single promise given just about every one of them contradicts another.

7) Ronald Reagen didn't have millions of jobs outsourced overseas forever, his policies would have been far more hurtful to our country than Mr. Obama's have in this time. Mr. Reagen began the 30 year assault on the Middle Class and lower income Americans that has put us where we are. Sure, Mr. Clinton is at fault for aspects of Fannie Mae, etc., but no Democrat has negatively impacted this country over the last 30 years to the extent recent Republican Presidents and Congressional Majorities have.

8) I believe in the Constitution, and despite deluded assertions to the contrary Republicans are the ones proposing assault on it. I'm not pleased with the President's re-authorization of the Patriot Act, but I'm petrified of any leader that has the gaul to suggestthe Consitution should be applied selectively when it comes to women, consenting adult homosexuals, or anyone else for that matter.

9) I don't believe in Magic underwear. John Kennedy pledged to respect the Republic, the fact Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan can't is troubling to say the least.

10) This Presdient has reached across the aisle daily, Mr. Boehner never has. !@#$ him and everyone bent on destroying this country for everyone but the wealthiest among us.
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
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Posted: 10/20/2012 5:30:27 PM
^^^^^^
"This Presdient has reached across the aisle daily,"

Is that how Obamacare got passed?
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 37
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Posted: 10/20/2012 5:38:05 PM

It's a bit sad that you guys are such scaredy cats. Fear this...fear that.


If the Germans had exercised a bit of fear & apprehension in the 1930's they'd have saved themselves a hell of a headache in the 1940, and 50 million pple wouldn't have been killed.

The problem with politicians with grandiose ideas is that they never pan out to what they want their ideas to do; yet they determine the fate of pple & country.

When MR & robber ryan wanna continue giving the rich tax breaks (and cloak it as a tax break for everyone); and tamper with Social security & Medicare as though they had masters degrees in sociology; you better believe that it scares the crap outta any thinking person out there (the key word is "thinking").

You'd think us humans learn our lessons from history but sadly we haven't. It saddens me to see that this faker (wolf in sheeps clothing) MR has a 50/50 chance of winning this election!


10) This Presdient has reached across the aisle daily, Mr. Boehner never has. !@#$ him and everyone bent on destroying this country for everyone but the wealthiest among us.


Amen ^, brother...Amen!
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 38
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Posted: 10/20/2012 6:32:16 PM

Complaining that welfare spiked during a recession is like complaining about sweating when it's hot. It's a given!!

GOP Game Plan

Step 1: Create economic conditions that increase welfare demand.

Step 2: Blame welfare for problems.

Step 3: Profit.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 39
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Posted: 10/20/2012 6:50:32 PM
"which most everyone agrees was the first card to fall in this crisis"

WOW! I feel like the bad guy, in that movie "Die Hard"...since my reaction is I must have missed 60 minutes!

I know republican supporters are anxious to bail shrub out of his pile of dung...but lehman collapsed in september of 08. That would give the guy an out...and is soooooo far from the truth it isn't even close! The first card to fall was Bear Stearns and Co. in April of 08.

The reason NONE of you focus on that fact is simple. JP Morgan Chase, took them over without the market missing a beat. The problem though was acknowledged, it was the Bear's mortgage backed securities dept. that took the firm down. There were other sign though as well...check the charts on price...by august of 07, the price of Citibank was beginning to fall, and rumors on the street abounded of a fire the equal of Cherlnobyal was already spreading.

BS & Co. was just the first outward sign of a vast serious issue, that the world could see.

"Part of the problem with this and Enron is that the collusion is so widespread. It wasn't just Enron and their auditors(was it Anderson?)(Yes it was Arthur Anderson), attorney firms, Moody's Rating, and investment bankers."

Woah woah woah....let's not confuse bad decisions with outright fraud! Enron was outright fraud, bad design of an investment vehicle, and an over exeurberance to embrace a new type of invstment people did not understand or should never have been allowed to be issued are two entirely different issues...

Enron, adelphia, Worldcom...set out to defraud people by cooking the books...these other idiots designed a product based on a flawed design(an upward only housing market), a flawed industry(Moody's, S&P, and the other rating agnecy get paid by the banker forming the security, which means they either rubber stamp it, or don't get more business, so let's call it blackmail).

The other issue goes beyond the scope of MBO's/CDO's...it goes to the basis of the real estate market as well. Real estate agents, who here has ever walked into an agents office and said I'm looking for a house for 75-100K...and NOT had an agent say..."gee, if you could go 25-35K more I have this beautiful blah blah blah"...then after selling you above your limit...they say "I know a guy who can help you get a mortgage"...
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
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Posted: 10/20/2012 7:06:36 PM
Oh and I forgot to mention...that friendly inspector, who set the value at your house, based on comps and values that really if pressed..didn't make any market sense at all....1 sold for 125K, 1 sold for 155K, then 2 others at 195K...justifies your 210K price....yeah right!

Plus that fire I was talking about in august 07...wasn't only citibank....it was wachovia, bank of america, washington mutual, and of course that famous name Countrywide Credit...or "we give you a mortgage, as long as your breathing"!

Also the "no doc" mortgage...or "put some shit on paper and you got a loan"!
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 41
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Posted: 10/20/2012 7:21:43 PM
@ Green


"This Presdient has reached across the aisle daily,"

Is that how Obamacare got passed?


Man, are you serious?
Obama ran on healthcare reform as a main platform
if he hadn't gotten anything done as he said he would by this time.
he'd be GUARANTEED to lose this election, and he knew that!
Which is why he got it thru any way he could
because the GOP wasn't about to work with him in any way whatsoever.

right after he was sworn in, The GOP (nazi) high command met
under the high-chancellor Mitch McConnel, who made a blood oath vowing that Obama
would be a 1 term president; and meant it by any means necessary.

In accordance to that pledge, the GOP has been sandbagging him every chance they could, not only on healthcare but on just about everything (including the job stimulus bill). Which is why Obama's attempts to reach across the aisle have been fruitless!
It is the OBJECTIVE of the GOP to derail Obama by any means necessary (lies, deceit, misrepresentations, etc) even at the detriment of the nation.

But the real sad part of this, is that there are quite enough gullible simpletons, racists, fringe elements out there to whom the GOP could sell their baloney, without question.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 42
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Posted: 10/21/2012 2:10:35 PM
@ Nr 44 ...

" ... 1) This Presdient inherited the worst financial crisis in just about any of our lifetimes. With all due respect and IMO it is asinine to suggest returning to the policies that put us in this situation will do anthing but exascerbate a tough situation, it is like sticking a fork in your eye to relieve an earache. ... "


With 'all due respect' [sic] to the false claim of having 'INHERITED' the 'worst financial crisis': NO PRESIDENT INHERITS ANYTHING. Every aspirant to the office of the president knows WHEN HE MAKES HIMSELF A CANDIDATE what the economic conditions are in the country. Every one of them believes he can do a better job than the last guy. The fiction that every new president is surprised by what he finds is just so much bullshit. Here's a thought for you: If 'The Un' manages to get re-elected, WHO will he blame the LAST four years on ... ?


" ... 2) I wasn't fond of an economy shedding 3/4 of a million jobs every month. ... "


From Obama's FIRST year:

13 million — Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of January 2009.

14.7 million — Number of people 16 and older unemployed as of December 2009.

7.7 percent — Unemployment rate January 2009

10.0 percent — Unemployment rate December 2009

And what about some figures for 'green' jobs ... ? Perhaps you meant that these are the ones you favor ... ?

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

1. Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
2. SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3. Solyndra ($535 million)*
4. Beacon Power ($69 million)*
5. AES’s subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
6. Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
7. SunPower ($1.5 billion)
8. First Solar ($1.46 billion)
9. Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
10. EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
11. Amonix ($5.9 million)
12. National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
13. Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
14. Abound Solar ($374 million)*
15. A123 Systems ($279 million)*
16. Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
17. Johnson Controls ($299 million)
18. Schneider Electric ($86 million)
19. Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
20. ECOtality ($126.2 million)
21. Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
22. Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
23. Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
24. Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
25. Range Fuels ($80 million)*
26. Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
27. Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
28. LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
29. UniSolar ($100 million)*
30. Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*
31. GreenVolts ($500,000)
32. Vestas ($50 million)
33. LG Chem’s subsidiary Chemical Power ($150 million)
34. Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
35. Navistar ($10 million)
36. Satcon ($3 million)*


" ... 10) This Presdient has reached across the aisle daily, ... "


Oh. You mean like when, at a meeting to decide the size of Obama's 'Porkulus' plan, he told Sen. Minority Whip Jon Kyl of AZ "I won." ... THAT's the kind of 'crossing the aisle' you mean ... ? Or when he and his co-conspirators physically locked Republicans OUT OF THE ROOM in which ObamaCare was being assembled ... ? That's gotta be it ...

It's so sad to think that these three are the ( ahem ) 'high points' of your assertions ... pity, really ... for you, that is.
 irishlab33
Joined: 1/16/2011
Msg: 43
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Posted: 10/21/2012 2:52:28 PM

"we give you a mortgage, as long as your breathing"!


For the love of God, you seem like an smart guy.

Please refrain from callings others "idiots" if you cannot differentiate between "your" and "you're".

they are not interchangable
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 44
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Posted: 10/21/2012 4:25:13 PM
^^^You seem like a smart guy...but, you never contribute with any insightful on topic comment
 irishlab33
Joined: 1/16/2011
Msg: 45
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Posted: 10/21/2012 5:36:59 PM
oh, you mean like saying :

"Those rotten rupublicants", or something snarky like you?

nah, I don't hate President Obama, and I think Romney would make a fine President.

Either way, I'm just tired of people hating on each other.
 PROTON67
Joined: 4/26/2012
Msg: 46
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Posted: 10/21/2012 5:55:22 PM
Every day there is a national security meeting at the white house. The president is the main person who should be there. Today, the news reported that BO has attended less than half of them. Meanwhile he has had more golf outings, more campaign trips, and more multi million dollar vacations than any previous president. We now have a murdered ambassador whose calls for more security were ignored. BO says he didn't know about the cries for help. I guess it is hard to hear calls for help when you are miles away at a golf course or on another campaign trip or another multi million dollar vacation.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 47
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Posted: 10/21/2012 6:29:55 PM

"Those rotten rupublicants", or something snarky like you?


Oh puleese oh master of snark...puleeease could you post something that has to do with the topic...and oh btw...when you use those quote thingies....it's customary to actually use an actual quote not some words you've made up. Let me show you how this is done:


If I may, I'd like to add to Yule's post...let us not forget that Obama's "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" was originally a Republican idea. So I ask, why did the Republicans object to the idea when Obama decided to implement it into the nation...when the idea was already on the table prior to Obama being President??


Well, remember Mitch McConnell's vow to his republigant counterparts "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."...and the republigants have gone on with this vow and made this congress into the congress least approved of in history...with approval ratings darn near in the single digits....this is why PPACA, which was largely a GOP proposal, becomes a focal point for reversal by the very GOP who developed much of PPACA...the main focus not being the good of the country, rather, getting that black man out of the white house.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 48
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Posted: 10/22/2012 3:12:58 AM

what aspects of life have improved for you Americans since Obama is in the White House




Well, there is the fact that the Dow Jones Index has gone from 6,600 to 13, 500 under President Obama's tenure.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 10/22/2012 5:13:24 AM

With 'all due respect' [sic] to the false claim of having 'INHERITED' the 'worst financial crisis': NO PRESIDENT INHERITS ANYTHING. Every aspirant to the office of the president knows WHEN HE MAKES HIMSELF A CANDIDATE what the economic conditions are in the country. Every one of them believes he can do a better job than the last guy. The fiction that every new president is surprised by what he finds is just so much bullshit.


Your claim that every new President is NOT "surprised by what he finds" following election has nothing whatsoever to do with how large the mess was, and how long it will take for it to get cleaned up.

Your claim that "no President inherits anything" is also flat out nonsense. Either that, or you are being picayune about the exact definition of the word "inherit." Because no elected leader actually "inherits" anything , except from dead relatives and friends. But if you are trying to pretend that no new leader has to start from the point where the previous one left off, then you are making no sense whatsoever.
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 50
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Posted: 10/22/2012 5:49:09 AM
Inherit implies lack of choice..Obama chose to run for office, he lead Americans to believe that he was fully aware of the state of the Union and he also lead them to believe that he had the solutions...now 4 years later it is obvious that he wasn't and didn't..whether he inherited or not really isn't the issue the issue is that he has not improved things substantially during his 4 years in office..You guys try the lame ass argument about how bad things would have been were it not for Obama..offering no proof other than your whack as theories and those of other ardent Obama supporters..

For whatever reasons Obama has not achieved all that he promised to ...he stated that if he didn't accomplish many of his goals that he should be a one term President..I agree....
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