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 L_LuuLuu
Joined: 8/2/2009
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?Page 2 of 2    (1, 2)
I know that you some of us have been fined as much as $11,000 for refusing to subject themselves to the illegal searches. I don't know if that held up in court, but at one time they were saying that once you were ordered to be frisked or strip-search you could NOT just refuse and walk away.

I have nothing to hide, but that is why I won't fly anymore until TSA is disbanded. I'm just NOT gonna take it.

Now laws have been passed to allow TSA to take over our streets, and yes -- demand to "see our papers".

With all the scandals and autrocities TSA has been caught red-handed in, THEY are the ones who should be in trouble.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/20/2012 7:04:09 PM

once you were ordered to be frisked or strip-search you could NOT just refuse and walk away


I would assume anyone who buys a plane ticket, checks in, checks bags, then backs out at the last second when faced with a search, absolutely has something to hide. I think they should be held, questioned, and then if circumstances warrant, fined for wasting everyone's time.


I have nothing to hide, but that is why I won't fly anymore until TSA is disbanded. I'm just NOT gonna take it.


I'm not sure they'll care.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/20/2012 8:00:45 PM

I guess people like to get felt up by strangers since the majority thought it to be normal.


Try getting on an El Al flight.
 lamatheid
Joined: 8/24/2010
Msg: 11
What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/20/2012 8:20:31 PM
You will not get on a airplane?
 aussieblues
Joined: 11/22/2011
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/20/2012 8:28:49 PM
If you want to make your plane on time...co-operate with the relevant authority. What exactly do you mean when you say your hair was 'tackled'?
 4utheworld
Joined: 10/8/2012
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/20/2012 8:43:43 PM
Perhaps your hair is too long hard to tell since there is no picture in your profile. Afro?
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
Msg: 19
What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/21/2012 1:20:31 AM
Funny- but I prefer to be a security risk while flying.
I get my boarding pass and only have a visa card as ID.... they write a big red SSSS across it.
Then when I go to the security check in, where there are always rows and rows of people waiting- they take me to a separate aisle, and go over me personally, which takes all of 3 minutes.

I am a frequent traveler, and have been through many airports.
Better to be a little early, have minimal luggage, papers in order and a no nonsense attitude.

Why make a fuss about this? You see they are screening everyone- yet feel personally slighted when they are checking you.... what rights do you have? The same as everyone else. They really had to tell you they were checking your bin?

Better to have your ducks in a row and be helpful- causing a stink and acting like you are special isn't going to win you any favors.

Refusing and acting ignorant: they will put you in handcuffs-on-a-stick and lead you out like the dog catcher.

Edit: my screws never bother the metal detectors..
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/21/2012 1:30:45 AM
Modern air travel is not what Charles Lindbergh and Emelia Earhart had in mind.
I gave up on the airlines 20 years ago. Ever since deregulation, air travel has gotten worse and worse.

Naturally, we Americans always take everything too far.
The minute you buy a ticket you immediately become a suspected terrorist.

If it wasn't for getting a job at TSA, most of those people would be walking the parking lot at their local
shopping mall.

The sad part is, there are countless security holes in every airport in the world.
No real terrorist would bother going through passenger boarding today.
 Peppermint_Petunias
Joined: 3/30/2012
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Posted: 10/21/2012 3:43:34 AM
Just do what most people do and consider WHY they are searching you.

For everyones safety.

Whats up with your left arm and hair?

You have the right to decline and drive or like said Go Greyhound.
I have the right to fly with out your hair hiding a possible weapon hidden in it.


I figure if you make a big enough stink about it they might even send you in for a cavity search... now wouldn't that be special.

^^^^^LOL

I don't think they charge you an additional fee for checking out orifices , although they should..
 northwildwoodnjman1969
Joined: 9/18/2012
Msg: 22
What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:35:28 AM
Can't refuse a frisk from TSA I believe and I'm not planning on finding out either...LOL Only way to make your next exsperience better is to (1) If the car(shuttle) service got lost, I would suggest trying a different company.(2) If possible try leaving a litttle earlier to get to the airport. Alot of airports suggest to arrive 2 hours ahead of time. (3) Read the TSA guidelines on how to get through secuity quicker.
 OMG!WTF!
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/21/2012 9:11:15 AM

FINALLY someone gets it! I don't appreciate getting felt up by a rent-a-cop


If you're not interested in opinions that may contradict your own, why start a thread?
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
Msg: 30
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Posted: 10/21/2012 1:53:49 PM
Maybe you're not conveying the root of the problem for yourself...

You don't like to be felt up by a rent a cop- understood, but then you go on to agree with a political rant about who's really fleecing us sheep?

Why just focus on the negative? You were offered many suggestions to help you deal with this- yet are focused on the responses that don't support your "topic" which is cloudy at best. You ARE talking about an inconvenience. We are all in the same boat as far as that goes. The sides of your breasts? How about them getting grabby with your nuts? lol....

Is this a thread on getting through airport security with minimal intrusion, or a rant on the TSA taking liberties? It seemed an easy question at first, but not so much after your responses.


In reading your words- only your words- I get the understanding that you're not making yourself clear.
 BlokeInSydney
Joined: 5/7/2012
Msg: 32
What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 10/21/2012 3:14:06 PM

The exception may be Australia (once you arrive), they have you put your luggage through the ex-ray scanner,

This might have more to do with Australia's very strict quarantine regulations. The x-rays are used in conjunction with sniffer dogs to detect drugs also.

New Zealand also has strict regulations in this regard to protect its agricultural industries.
 ForumsCreeper
Joined: 1/18/2009
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Posted: 11/5/2012 4:24:52 PM
You have no rights. Duh! But come on, refuse, Do it, then come back and tell us what happened.
 GrandmaBooBoo
Joined: 12/30/2006
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 11/6/2012 9:51:38 AM
I think that the TSA is proof positive that the terrorists WON. Before 9/11, it was very common for me to fly off for a spur of the moment weekend but I haven't flown since 9/11. I'm not really overly concerned about terrorists, BUT I have enough hardware in my back to build a small deck. I set off metal detectors all over the place, and I DO carry a medical card explaining the implants that I have in my back, BUT....as I understand it...those are NOT accepted at airports. It is also my understanding that a simple "frisk" is not standard procedure for those of us who set off metal detectors...that we are automatically strip searched. I could also probably deal with that, BUT....like everyone else...I've heard the horror stories about how disrespectfully senior citizens and handicapped people have been treated by airport security. For that reason alone, I've chosen to NEVER fly again. Even in only 1 in 100 TSA agents are rude, it would be my dumb luck that that's the one I'd get, and I wouldn't want my vacation ruined by some twit who was power tripping.

Even removing my shoes requires a place to sit...which I understand is not provided. I'm not even severely handicapped... I only require the use of a cane about 60% of the time and can walk at least 1 mile under my own steam most of the time. My greatest saddness is that I am unable to take my grandchildren on a flight. We miss out on taking some nice long weekend trips because we can't fly :-( LOL! I hope that the ocean crossing on the QEII makes up for that disappointment when we go to Ireland in 2014 though. I think also that I may check out some of the small commuter lines to see if we can go up for a "ride" so they can have that experience. The worst part of not flying anymore is that my back will only tolerate about 300 miles per day of driving...and then it takes me 20 minutes to stand upright before I can walk again LOL!

I'm glad that I don't HAVE to fly (for business)...because I know that there is a limit to the disrespect and humiliation I would tolerate simply because I'm old and handicapped.
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
Msg: 35
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Posted: 11/6/2012 5:11:07 PM
^^^
No disrespect here at all.... but if you haven't flown since 911, then you are basing your decision on heresay.

I have flown many times before and after. It is really not so different. The screening is a bit more invasive, but nothing even close to strip searches. lol.... you could even request a personal search, rather than wait in the long lines. Or do like I explained earlier. It takes me less than 10 minutes to go through security and I have never felt anything but their professionalism.

I also carry some metal around everywhere, and it is really no problem. They have asked me to remove shoes and walk through a corridor that xrays you and blows air over you then checks the air for explosive particles. I have been shooting guns and blasting off rockets hours before the flight and no red flags were thrown. The people were always nice and about as professional as in a bank.

Most of what people hear is hype and bad rumors. I have still walked in 35 minutes before a flight and bought a ticket with cash and made the plane. Being helpful and knowing how to travel makes all the difference in the world.

It's a shame to put off air travel because of some rumors and the fear of TSA, terrorists or anything else. Good luck and give it a try, before condemning it. I would be willing to bet they treat you with honor and courtesy.

edit* yes they provide seating for removing shoes if you need it, and will take you with an escort straight through to a separate area to screen you personally... which is faster and more comfortable than waiting in line and going through the regular screening.
 GrandmaBooBoo
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What happens if you refused to get frisked at the airport?
Posted: 11/6/2012 7:22:15 PM
Re: Billingsmason, Thanks for the positive imput. You're right....I have based my decision on "hearsay"...which has been numerous articles on the topic....such as recently....the elderly man in a wheelchair who was LEFT sitting in a corner for almost 14 hours!!! His family was not permitted through the gates to see him safely onto the plane. They were assured by airport personnel that he would be taken care of. After he failed to arrive at his destination, it took airlines a long time to determine that he had indeed been left sitting with no one even willing to notify his family that he'd missed the flight (due to their negligence).

Maybe I will give it another shot when my grandchildren are a little older. They are currently 9 and 12 yrs old so while they are very well behaved children...they still depend on me to make things run smoothly. I appreciate your comments though! Thanks!
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