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 Hotmerlot
Joined: 10/9/2012
Msg: 38
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+Page 3 of 3    (1, 2, 3)
If I was HIV positive then I would stop dating or only date another HIV positive person. I can't imagine falling in love with someone and then finding out that I could be the instrument of a long slow death.

I would not knowingly sleep with someone that was HIV positive and would feel mislead if that person did not tell me straight away.
 ShelbySask4friend1
Joined: 2/10/2005
Msg: 39
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 10/30/2012 8:41:24 PM

Either way,would you say that HIV carries no risks to your health to the point that you would
willingly submit to sexual relations with a known carrier without any fear?


It is really the understanding of it all, HIV is harmless...

Ill explain it this way..

If HIV, herpes, and all the other types of viruses that are latent in humans and animals living on the planet were capable of killing people, there would hardly be anyone left to treat the billions of sufferers. HIV, being a human retrovirus (produced by the body itself), is totally benign to its host cells and is, therefore, incapable of destroying any cell it has infected. This applies especially to the cells of the immune system, which are equipped with highly sophisticated defense mechanisms. For HIV to have any destructive value, it would literally have to flood the body with active viral particles...
Yet HIV can barely be detected even in late stage AIDS patients, despite using the most sensitive of tests...
 patrick28t
Joined: 7/28/2008
Msg: 40
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 10/31/2012 12:15:20 PM
I would only date someone with HIV under the following circumstances:

She doesn't disclose until it's too late and I'm already head-over-heels in love (love triumphs over logic). Though if I were to catch HIV from my lover, she had best stick around until death due us part. If she would leave me alone and undateable, I'd probably end up violent.

The other way I would date someone with HIV is if I had it already.
 ShelbySask4friend1
Joined: 2/10/2005
Msg: 41
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 11/1/2012 3:03:32 AM

(and I don't mean stupid internet sites run by conspiracy theorists and other intellectual misfits –


Intellectual misfits,lmao, like scientist, doctors and individuals that know what they are talking about is maybe what you mean?…Are you serious…Have you visited internet pages,lol…I assume not, as they have verbatim quotes from professionals in their fields, written book verbatim quotes, Newspaper articles, and case studies documented, as internet sites are simply virtual platforms to display information, which is governed by law…


A few of the “intellectual misfits” you speak of…

Dr. Mercola - "It may seem inconceivable to some of you, but disease is Big Business. And, if you’re cynical – which seems to become easier with each passing day -- it’s a way to achieve population control while making huge profits in the process."

Dr Robert E. Willner-“…instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers…he went public. Then, with the help of Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came about. This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands… It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the announcement…Gallo is now a multi-millionaire because of AIDS and his fraudulent AIDS test.”

Rep.G Gutknecht US House of Representatives…

New Labour “Health” have now announced that all pregnant women in the UK will be “offered” a HIV test. Those who fall for the scam and who are diagnosed as “HIV positive” will be given the chance to have themselves and their unborn child permanently damaged by AZT etc.

Dr Kary Mullis Nobel Laureate
“If you think a virus is the cause of AIDS, do a control without it….it hasn’t been done. The epidemiology of AIDS is a pile of anecdotal stories, selected to fit the virus/AIDS hypothesis…
Peter Duesberg Member, National Academy of Sciences.
“Nobody wants to look at the facts…I’ve sent countless letters to medical journals…they simply ignore them. The fact is, this whole heterosexual AIDS thing is a hoax.”

Prof Gordon Stewart Public Health University of Glasgow.
“The cause of AIDS is multiufactorial ; HIV is neither necessary nor sufficient.”

Dr Lawrence Bradford biologist.
“I am well convinced that HIV is harmless.”

Dr Fabio Franchi, specialist, infectious disease
“…AIDS is not a disease at all – it is a government program.”
Tom Bethel Hoover Institute researcher.
“Electron microscopy reveals retrovirus-like particles in 90% of enlarged lymph nodes from AIDS patients but the identical particles can be found in 90% of enlarged lymph nodes from patients who do not have AIDS and are not at risk from developing AIDS. If the particles seen…in AIDS patients are, as the AIDS experts assure, HIV, what are the particles seen in patients..who are not at risk…”
Dr Valendar Turner, Autralian…
“A major problem with the new AIDS definition is that it ignores the man-made environmental causes of immune suppression. Exposure to toxins, alcoholism, heavy drug use or heavy antibiotic use all can cause onset of the list of ‘diseases’ indicative of AIDS.”

New England Journal of Medicine 317:238-241.
“Positive tests do not prove AIDS or pre-AIDS disease status nor that these diseases will be acquired.”



Just a few “stupid internet sites”,lol…
http://www.nature.com/news/paper-denying-hiv-aids-link-secures-publication-1.9737
http://www.aras.ab.ca/news.html
http://www.healtoronto.com/10reasons.html
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/aids.htm
http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/category/hiv-does-not-cause-aids/
http://www.orgonelab.org/hiv_aids.htm
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/gnlie.htm
http://www.harmonikireland.com/hiv-hoax/


“books you can reference, if you do not like “stupid internet sites”…
AIDS, The HIV Myth, St. Martin's Press, NY, 1989.
"The Cure that Failed: Did the AIDS lobby know what it was doing when it pressed the government to approve AZT?" National Review, 10 May 1993, pp.33-35.
- Duesberg, Peter: "AIDS Acquired by Drug Consumption and Other Non-Contagious Risk Factors", Pharmac. Ther.55:201-277, 1992. Also see: Duesberg, P.: Infectious AIDS: Have We Been Misled?, North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, 1996; and AIDS; Virus or Drug Induced?; Contemporary Issues in Genetics and Evolution, Vol. 5, Edited by Peter H. Duesberg (Partly reprinted from Genetica Vol. 95, No. 1-3, 1995) Kluwer Academics Press Dordrecht, The Netherlands,1996.
- Fumento, Michael: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS: How a Tragedy has been Distorted by Media and Partisan Politics, Basic Books, NY 1990.
- Fumento, M.: "Teenaids, the Latest HIV Fib", New Republic, 10 August 1992, pp.17-19.
- Rappoport, J.: AIDS, Inc.: Scandal of the Century, Human Energy Press, San Bruno, CA, 1988.
- Root-Bernstein, Robert: Rethinking AIDS: The Tragic Cost of Premature Consensus, Free Press, NY, 1993.
- Harman, Robert: "The Emotional Plague and the AIDS Hysteria," Journal of Orgonomy, 22(2):173-195, Nov. 1988.
A Sad ‘Day’ Is World AIDS Day a Sorry Sham?

The AIDS War : Propaganda, Profiteering, and Genocide from the Medical Industrial Complex
AIDS; The Failure of Contemporary Science
WHAT REALLY CAUSES AIDS?
AIDS: A Second Opinion
The FDA "partner" of the Pharmaceutical Industry
AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic

Why in your delusional mind is the onus to disprove the link,” I mean real documented and cross confirmed studies) then you shouldn't be say this crap..”. when there is no “documented and/or cross confirmed study linking it in the first place,lol…
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
Msg: 42
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 11/1/2012 6:35:00 PM
AIDS.org
HIV can be transmitted from an infected person to another through:

Blood (including menstrual blood)
Semen
Vaginal secretions
Breast milk

Blood contains the highest concentration of the virus, followed by semen, followed by vaginal fluids, followed by breast milk.

* Activities That Allow HIV Transmission

Unprotected sexual contact
Direct blood contact, including injection drug needles, blood transfusions, accidents in health care settings or certain blood products
Mother to baby (before or during birth, or through breast milk)

The following “bodily fluids” are NOT infectious:

Saliva
Tears
Sweat
Feces
Urine


To say that HIV is harmless really makes ZERO sense, and yes it's irresponsible-
The sites of yours that I did look at seem to be conspiracy theorists, bent on showing how someone is getting rich or stealing anothers idea or just plain denying that HIV/AIDS is a serious and life threatening deal....

Have you ever looked into a persons eyes who is seriously sick and dying? Do you honestly think those that have died because of a case of pneumonia or TB or an infection that would not normally have died, was faking?
 eattoplease55
Joined: 10/22/2012
Msg: 43
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 11/1/2012 7:10:20 PM
Only one thing to say to that...PERSONAL CHOICE.....and if they are honest thats a good thing.....anyone that doesnt tell should be held responsible BIG TIME!
 ShelbySask4friend1
Joined: 2/10/2005
Msg: 44
Heterosexual Sex with one person who is HIV+
Posted: 11/4/2012 3:18:35 PM

To say that HIV is harmless really makes ZERO sense, and yes it's irresponsible-


I am not sure how you come to this conclusion, though we are free to believe in whatever we want...



The sites of yours that I did look at seem to be conspiracy theorists, bent on showing how someone is getting rich or stealing anothers idea or just plain denying that HIV/AIDS is a serious and life threatening deal....


Those site seem to be conspiracy theorists,lol, seriously, same with the reputable doctors, scientist and others , who voice their opinions and risk this kind of shit and de-creditation, basically to help others...

The point being the link between HIV and Aids has never been linked, we are not saying aids is not a serious syndrome...


Have you ever looked into a persons eyes who is seriously sick and dying?

More times than I care to recall...


Do you honestly think those that have died because of a case of pneumonia or TB or an infection that would not normally have died, was faking?


What??? I am not sure what you mean, the condition is faking, or the person is faking,lol, regardless, it really has no relevance to the topic...
 aixishenti1
Joined: 9/30/2012
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