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 norwegianguy456
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That's the problem with porn, men think every woman is a porn star and will act like a porn star.
News flash, we aren't.

News Flash: Men in general, with any sexual experience anyway, don't think that at all. I think that's more jealousy-related feelings some women may have, which is why they themselves don't like porn.

We may or may not want to or enjoy doing certain sexual things.

True. Guys may or may not, either...

Including oral and swallowing cum etc.

No oral is a Legit deal-breaker, for either gender. Not swallowing isn't a deal breaker, but having a hissy fit about going down on a guy (or girl) serves as a valid/understandable reason to not go down relationship-alley with said person. Not swallowing, if handled in the right way, usually isn't going to have an effect. If a guy sees That and just that as a deal-breaker, when she handles the oral experience just fine -- then he's over-the-top and has some issues that aren't in his best interest.
 Naturalselection53
Joined: 1/13/2016
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Posted: 2/14/2018 3:58:53 PM

How do you know it's easy and doesn't ruin the mood you are not the one swallowing


She says so but it's your story.


do I go to a restaurant and ask the waiter to give me a delicious bowl of cum with a baked roll


I am guessing you don't ask for a penis on a platter to put it wherever you think it's appropriate either. And I bet you enjoy it pounding the vulva don't you. Or do you just not like penis at all?


why am I expected to eat your vile substance and pretend I'm enjoying it?


How do you know I taste vile I might taste as sweet as honey you haven't tasted every guy in the world you know, or right it's the thought that bothers you not the taste of it. Kinda like saying you don't eat honey and garlic spare ribs cause the thought of eating ribs is disgusting.

Dude, did you lose your sense of humour somewhere ? Don't take it so personally, I'm sure she was just being humerous.


So think of your own juices and think how would I feel if a guy came up from a muff dive and said that is disgusting to you.
. Not all men like to muff dive. I certainly wouldn't pull a dang hissy fit. I'd just consider us not compatible and find one who did.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 2/14/2018 5:19:58 PM

Dude, did you lose your sense of humour somewhere ? Don't take it so personally, I'm sure she was just being humerous.

He was being over-the-top WTF -- but "saintclara" wasn't merely kidding. Was truly an issue-ridden person in which her messages were all like that going off on men, where it wasn't merely "kidding around". :)
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 2/14/2018 6:59:26 PM
Matters not to me, whether my gifts are swallowed or spit.

As long as the lady cared enough, to help me get rid of it.....


It's the thought [and effort] that counts to me. Happy Valentines Day to all.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 2/15/2018 1:02:44 AM

I think that's more jealousy-related feelings some women may have, which is why they themselves don't like porn.
Not swallowing isn't a deal breaker, but having a hissy fit about going down on a guy (or girl) serves as a valid/understandable reason to not go down relationship-alley with said person. Not swallowing, if handled in the right way, usually isn't going to have an effect

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.
Eh oral is kinda lame. Why in hell should a woman give a dude she is only dating oral? Is ridiculous joke lol.
I'm not even bothering with sexual stuff if I date again, I dont even care for it. Its pointless. Kinda like dating
 Naturalselection53
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Posted: 2/15/2018 7:57:18 AM

He was being over-the-top WTF -
I'll say, considering he made a comment in another thread that most women can't afford $50.00 because they have so much debt. I think someone may have a few issues himself.

but "saintclara" wasn't merely kidding. Was truly an issue-ridden person in which her messages were all like that going off on men, where it wasn't merely "kidding around". :)
Sad, when these people can't learn to put something in the place of bitter.





Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations
Some men are messed up to begin with, so those men, i agree, it probably messes them up more. Most men are relatively sane though, they know the difference between real life and a bad porn flick. There is porn that is marketed directly to women. Mommy porn i think they call it, Women love it. Think Fifty Shades, those movies make billions of dollars. Women tend to like their porn soft, with a good old fashioned love story. Does it screw some women up? yes, I think so, they think all men should be white knights who want to live some kind of unrealistic fairy tale.Most women realize there is no perfect man, so they don't waste their life trying to find one. You have to negotiate in relationships, spitting and swallowing is one of those things you need to negotiate. It will vary between couples, so there is no right or wrong answer.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 2/15/2018 1:22:06 PM

I'll say, considering he made a comment in another thread that most women can't afford $50.00 because they have so much debt. I think someone may have a few issues himself.

Yeah, dating forums will bring out the over-the-top frustrated. :)

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.

That's simply not true, sorry. I mean, it helps to believe it's true, right? :) It's not making guys wanting only-hot-girls, as you don't need porn for that. Local news ladies + almost everyone on general TV will do that. Porn generally is so mainstream -- and cums in all varieties, where homemade ones or close to it, are a big ticket sellers. Here's the problem that CAN (like anything else) happen with watching a Lot of porn, instead:

1. Turns a sexually Conservative guy when it comes to dating/relationships, not so sexually conservative. A good thing for those too conservative, but a problem when only wheeling & dealing with sexually conservative ladies. It doesn't turn Mr Nice Guy into Mr Sex Maniac. Crazy people will think that.

2. Paradoxially, ending up lacking a sex/dating drive, if watching a lot of it as routine. That's why some blogs on "How to get girls," that helps unsuccessful single guys, tells them to stop watching it -- or you can some, but Don't masturbate to it. Your sex/dating drive will go Up.

3. When in a "blah" LTR, a guy can end up reverting to watching porn as his go-to exercise, as his then comfort zone... when the Realtionship needs more spice and a jump-start. Makes it much harder. Again, if he watches it too much. Of course, it can help if Both parties watch it together (plenty of genres).

Eh oral is kinda lame. Why in hell should a woman give a dude she is only dating oral? Is ridiculous joke lol.

Because for most people, it's Enjoyable, just like intercourse is. And, oral is "3rd base", not "Home Plate" where sex resides. Granted, some people put "oral" at a high pedestal, but they should realize that's Just Them in the minority, that's not how most feel. If oral is just a "birthday present" as he/she hates doing it -- there's going to be a sexual problem for most people, if not Both in that Minority. It's *natural* to like oral sex, btw. :)

I'm not even bothering with sexual stuff if I date again, I dont even care for it. Its pointless. Kinda like dating

You will date at some point, healthy or non-healthy. Sexual stuff at all (sex included)? It's not pointless... you're just frustrated & depressed about it. We all can be to some degree, but we have to work to shape ourselves over time (especially when younger), and not expect everything/everybody to more or less conform to Us, as if we have THE way (because mama says so and I can merely find others online who feel the same way). :)
 ThePigOfYourDreams
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Posted: 2/15/2018 1:33:57 PM

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.


Yeah, unlike chick flicks that manage to keep everything real.


Why in hell should a woman give a dude she is only dating oral?


To keep him dating her.

Hope this helps.
 _Rise_Above_This_
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Posted: 2/15/2018 9:30:25 PM

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.

True but it usually only lasts about two minutes and then they have to clean themselves off
 trinity818
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Posted: 2/16/2018 11:26:05 AM

Why in hell should a woman give a dude she is only dating oral?


Gee, I don't know... maybe because she enjoys it?
 Nestaron
Joined: 10/11/2017
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Posted: 2/16/2018 12:13:52 PM
I sorry you have a problem with a random post I made boohoo cry me a river on how it offended you like I give a sh!t. You think I have issues but really I come here post random sh!t to amuse myself and people like you make it all about themselves, like it's up to me to fill that need they have to feel happy.

I am sorry my statements bothered you I was at fault for whatever you felt because of my statements and that they would upset you to the point you needed to rehash spilled glass of milk I did the other day. Not that I cared it was spilled cause I moved on to a new glass but there you are dwelling on it like it's the end of the world. Send Arlo his $50 and quit complaining about statements I made otherwise you are just shooting word vomit with no substance to back it.

Does that bother you too does it? Too bad I don't feel one ounce of remorse or regret for my statements because I could have just as easily commented that guys should be respectful and accept the fact that ladies simply just don't like the taste, use it as a starting point for other sexual activities just as easy. Start in 69'er and it's no harm no foul to me either way is not a deal breaker I actually have no feeling towards it at all, you think it's an issue. I am going to say stupid coin right? Nope random chance coin came up in favor of whiner behaviour on the topic at hand. Which is how I voice my opinion a coin flip and can be either way how do you like that issue now.

Yes that is truth everything I have said on here for or against had no real opinion just a mere coin. Cause I see both sides of every situation and you can't win no matter which side you take, just humor yourself when you really don't have any emotional investment in it and now you have to wonder did he actually flip a coin for this statement too?
 Naturalselection53
Joined: 1/13/2016
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Posted: 2/16/2018 1:38:38 PM

I made boohoo cry me a river on how it offended you like I give a sh!t

LOL You don't offend me at all. Actually, I find angry, bitter dumb fecks quite amusing. Are you president of the He-Man Women Haters club or just Secretary Treasurer. I bet the steam is just pouring out your ears right now. hahahhahaa.
 Nestaron
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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:29:12 PM
Yeah I am angry and bitter yet I am not the one insulting. But I am so full of anger towards women cause what I mention debt and women in the same sentence that you took out what you wanted as it suited your agenda not the whole statement I referred to you conveniently left out where I said in "today's financial world" rather nicely. Maybe you should keep upto date on how many women have a financial plan and see what is really what.

Oh wait you are saying some hissy fit like it wasn't a rebuttal on someone throw sh!t out there see I can do that too and you chime me for it because of something else I stated bothered you thinking it was my opinion when it was an article aren't you the smart one.

Do you see steam coming out somewhere when you just got fed with fact according to someone else, you think it's me you have an issue go take it up with the places who have done the research and see people's portfolios and comeback tell me about how I am a hater.

Oh you don't like the fact I use other sources given to back my sh!t up get used to it these people have.

Am I suppose to laugh in your face now or should I wait until you think about how deep of a whole you dug for yourself with that knowledge of yours and how dumb I am. Wrong guy to try to show your superior intellect with cause I will bury your sh!t.
 Naturalselection53
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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:43:37 PM

Wrong guy to try to show your superior intellect with cause I will bury your sh!t.

Sure! Whenever you're ready there, Skippy. hahahah. How's the anger level now, steam coming out your nose now too?
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:18:15 PM

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.


I read that fairly often, but no one ever explains what unrealistic expectations men may develop? The sex in most porn seems fairly standard. It is unrealistic to expect the hotel maid (meaning relative stranger) to just jump into bed with you, if that is the sort of thing you mean?

 cooldog65
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:49:42 PM

Mmm no, porn messes men up by giving them unrealistic expectations.



True but it usually only lasts about two minutes and then they have to clean themselves off



 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 2/17/2018 12:35:47 AM
Alright I get what you're saying in reply to the 2nd quote but either way, 95% of guys watch porn and about 95% of guys are similar when it comes to what they want and expect in the bedroom and also their skill level ;)


Because for most people, it's Enjoyable, just like intercourse is. And, oral is "3rd base", not "Home Plate" where sex resides. Granted, some people put "oral" at a high pedestal, but they should realize that's Just Them in the minority, that's not how most feel. If oral is just a "birthday present" as he/she hates doing it -- there's going to be a sexual problem for most people, if not Both in that Minority. It's *natural* to like oral sex, btw. :)

Still stupid to do it if it's just a hookup aka 'dating' lol. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks it's stupid, either way, I still think it's stupid. Heck I could get a guy to pay me for doing it, what do I get out of just doing it on a hookup?
Hence guys love 'dating' because it's basically getting 'free' prostitutes.


You will date at some point, healthy or non-healthy. Sexual stuff at all (sex included)? It's not pointless... you're just frustrated & depressed about it. We all can be to some degree, but we have to work to shape ourselves over time (especially when younger), and not expect everything/everybody to more or less conform to Us, as if we have THE way (because mama says so and I can merely find others online who feel the same way). :)

Not necessarily, dating requires effort. It's easy to just not meet anyone lol. Basically I assume 'dating' won't go anywhere 95% of the time (as in a relationship) so then why even sleep with them or do anything sexual?
It's completely pointless. It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't achieve anything. It's pointless.
Now I know how guys play this game I can play using my own tactics lol and not to their rules.
Guys generally don't just like or not like a girl because of the sexual stuff she does or lack there of, so it's a expendable activity.
 Naturalselection53
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Posted: 2/17/2018 6:39:07 AM

Alright I get what you're saying in reply to the 2nd quote but either way, 95% of guys watch porn and about 95% of guys are similar when it comes to what they want and expect in the bedroom and also their skill level ;)
Don't lie there and depend on his skill level. Learn to ask for what YOU want and need to enjoy the experience. Most men don't mind guidance and if they do they arent worth your time. But you cant expect them to know what you like if you dont know yourself.



Still stupid to do it if it's just a hookup aka 'dating' lol. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks it's stupid, either way, I still think it's stupid. Heck I could get a guy to pay me for doing it, what do I get out of just doing it on a hookup?
Hence guys love 'dating' because it's basically getting 'free' prostitutes.

Dont ever have sex unless You want to have it. You are developing an unhealthy idea of sex and relationships. When you meet the right guy, he will put your needs above his own sexually. He will care whether you liked it or not. That should be a two way street.
 CBGB77
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Posted: 2/17/2018 8:02:49 AM
What about "snowballing" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_A58231NFk
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 2/17/2018 8:40:25 AM

Guys generally don't just like or not like a girl because of the sexual stuff she does or lack there of, so it's a expendable activity.


Not sure why you speak for men, but I would never get into a relationship with a woman that wasn't into oral sex. And I would leave the relationship if she changed.

Strong sexual chemistry is a huge plus, granted it doesn't outweigh everything, but without it I don't see a reason to continue a romantic relationship. However, if I liked someone but lacked sexual compatibility we could be hiking or bowling buddies. ( In my younger days a casual FWB was possible but even that peters out fairly soon. :)


What about "snowballing" ?


IMO it's more one of those porn things that lends itself to video graphics but actually takes away from physical pleasure. One of those things you might try once or twice in your life just out of curiosity.

Like a reverse standing BJ, talk about uncomfortable or a Standing 69 Position.

http://sexpositions.club/positions/213.html

The worst one I tried was the The Standing 69 Position. You could break her neck if you aren't really careful, and it's impossible to relax in that position.

https://www.kinkly.com/definition/74/the-standing-69-position
 CBGB77
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Posted: 2/17/2018 12:04:06 PM
Lol,did nobody see "Clerks" ?
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 2/17/2018 5:59:07 PM

Don't lie there and depend on his skill level. Learn to ask for what YOU want and need to enjoy the experience. Most men don't mind guidance and if they do they arent worth your time. But you cant expect them to know what you like if you dont know yourself.

My guidance doesn't help, they just can't get me off, so I just let them do what they want lol.


Not sure why you speak for men, but I would never get into a relationship with a woman that wasn't into oral sex. And I would leave the relationship if she changed.

I mean early in dating a guy won't like or not like a woman because of sexual reasons unless it's really extreme I guess.


he will put your needs above his own sexually. He will care whether you liked it or not.

Honestly I don't care much for sex/ual stuff I have no libido, unsure why. I only do it because I like the guy and they seem to want to.
 Naturalselection53
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Posted: 2/18/2018 4:44:51 AM

Honestly I don't care much for sex/ual stuff I have no libido, unsure why. I only do it because I like the guy and they seem to want to
My dear child, I feel like I'm mothering you. Please go see a Dr. There are things you can get to help with this. Please, quit doing things because you think you should. Only do it if you really want to. You will never feel used or taken advantage of then. BTW, your problem is common with women. Most women don't orgasm through intercourse. You are not damaged or different in any way.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 2/18/2018 5:27:30 AM
I doubt doctors could help me honestly. What can you get that helps?
I used to have a normal libido just over last 5 years its gone down so much especially in last year. Now its like I have no libido at all like prepuberty levels lmao. Sigh.
I mean its kinda convenient since I'm like always single I guess though.

No, guys can't get me to orgasm at all intercourse or not. I used to be able to from sex but I don't think I can anymore.
Also I have a neurological disorder, I'm 95% numb 95% of the time. Kinda used to it now. And I get massive migraines. Had to go off anti epileptic meds tho cos wasn't helping and made me mentally slow and unable to remember stuff.
 Naturalselection53
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Posted: 2/18/2018 12:41:48 PM

I doubt doctors could help me honestly. What can you get that helps?
Get them to check your testosterone level. They can give you small amounts of it. I have a friend who has the same problem and thats what she uses. She said she can't get enough sex now. I know what you mean about the epileptic meds, I take them as well. yes they do tend to effect your memory and slow you down some. Talk to your Dr. though, you are too young to not be enjoying yourself and this will ultimately effect any future relationship you have. P.S. Quit doing things to please guys if you dont want to do it.
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