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 Aries_328
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The 2012 Legatum Prosperity Index Table Rankings
http://www.prosperity.com/Ranking.aspx


Okay... Sure, we are #12 overall and in comparison of size and diversity is that catastrophic? What's the problem? No where does it say the US is a failure. Being #1 is just a Utopian goal not likely ever achievable at our scale. Can things be improved, yes. Does that mean anything is gained from this list... not really. Dropping from top 10... Thanks current administration. You built that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-crashes-out-of-the-top-10-in-world-prosperity-index-2012-11

When referring to the U.S., the language of the report had a somewhat dire tone. It claims that "the American Dream is in jeopardy," and "the national ethos of the U.S. is under threat."
Well, who is it under threat by? Could it be the incredibly loud voices that say it never existed or was a fraud and should be abandoned?


In fact, the U.S. economy sub-score dropped to twentieth and its personal freedom score dropped four points to fourteenth, just above Uruguay
I could have swore that the most hated group in the US is saying that freedom is in jeopardy and is getting less every day under current policies.

So, what is the point of this... other then blaming everything going wrong on the people that keep saying this is happening?

Red herrings... The US is in crisis caused by the ideologies currently in power. Half the country voted for them so it isn't surprising it isn't improving. Then comes the typical game... "America isn't as great as it use to be so we must remake it" which the past 30 years of remaking it has slowly declined it to the point is at now. But it's those other guys fault... the ones that say to stop screwing with it because you have no clue what you are doing.

Progressivism is regressivism. Self evident.
 L_LuuLuu
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:52:40 PM
I went to quite a bit of trouble finding all the links I used re: each of the 10 "happiest" countries, but I don't think anybody read them. Shame on you all -- LOL.

My main point was that ALL the countires are are "doing so well" from socialism have governments on the verge of collapse, because their hand out programs are virtually unsustainable. The links come from well known and credible publications -- not some wing nut job blogs.

Believe me, as you speak of Greece. Having your government collapse is NO DAMN FUN. Didn't everybody see the riots going on in the streets last summer? People going buck wild over having to sacrifice a few dollars in retirement (age 50!) -- or retire a few years later. When I see that, I know for sure that most people were as ill informed about the economic plight of their county as Americans seem to be. And we are the WORST, overall.

Switzerland was the only country doing well, and it's economy is primarily free enterpirse.

The one that escaped collapse used "austerity" measures" to pull out of the fix they are in. And those measures were HARSH.

My second point was that the socialized medicine programs are a failure.

My last point, re immigration was this: European Countries are suffering just as much as the U.S. from foriegners moving in illegally to take advantage of their social hand out programs. That is the final straw on that camel's back. Many illegals are posing a huge crime problem. The citizens don't like it one bit either. Yet, everyone, from everywhere else, seems to point the finger at the U.S. and cry "Racism" (they ASSume that all illegals are Hispanics, when we acknowlege similar problems.)


I know a lot of people on POF hate Margaret Thatcher and throw in insults when I quote her. But I'm going to quote her again: "The problem with socialism is that we run eventualy run out of everybody else's money".


In the U.S., our National Debt has tripled over the last 10 years (and that means since the Dem's took over both houses of Congress --- so forget blaming George Bush). And it's growing by the millions everyday. Even the The problem is not so much Socialism -- it's a HUGE welfare state. And NO "welfare" is NOT a CODE for Racism. 1/2 of the country is being subsidized in one way or another. And they of all are all different colors. While others -- of all different colors succeed.
 lyingcheat
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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:05:42 PM

I went to quite a bit of trouble finding all the links I used re: each of the 10 "happiest" countries, but I don't think anybody read them. Shame on you all -- LOL.

The links come from well known and credible publications -- not some wing nut job blogs.


I looked at the ones you referenced for Australia first, since they, obviously, interest me most.
The first took me to a story about immigration in Denmark featured in 'The Brussels Journal - The Voice Of Conservatism In Europe' dated 'July 2005',
In other words, a pre-GFC story, sourced from an agenda website, that has nothing to do with Australia.

The other link was to was to a news story about a very small, very local, example of social conflict. It blew over within a few days and was replaced in the news by some other sensational story - a dog born with two heads or something. Or maybe it was the riot at an out-of-control party that was even bigger than the one you seem to think indicates the imminent collapse of Australian society.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/ambulance-smashed-at-out-of-control-party-teenager-stabbed/story-e6frg13u-1226475014440


My main point was that ALL the countires are are "doing so well" from socialism have governments on the verge of collapse, because their hand out programs are virtually unsustainable.

It depends on what you mean by 'socialism', but with regards to the list in the OP, that ^^^ simply isn't true.

In fact none of your 'conclusions' are supported by reference to anything objective, they are just opinionated assertions.


Believe me, as you speak of Greece...

Greece isn't even in the top 10. It's 49th.

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Progressivism is regressivism. Self evident.

Gosh, that's got a nice ring to it...
I bet you'd love these -

War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
 Aries_328
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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:27:18 PM

Gosh, that's got a nice ring to it...

I knew you would like that.

It's actually pretty easy to assume your response now. Pick out the simplistic variation of the argument but ignore the primary basis.

If the US has been becoming progressively 'progressive' then how can the loss of status in 'happiness' in this study not be attributed to that?

I don't really give a crap about what works in Norway. the US is not Norway. Life and people and cultures are not homogeneous and what works in one part of the world does not specifically require that it works in every other part. The interesting part of all the 'expectations' that defined happiness in the study are really the traditional values of the US with a few exceptions for government provided benefits. There are specific trusts required for health coming from government that do not work with the US. But, that requires understanding that it is just not the culture. Also, there are freedom and liberty and who the hell pays for it but... whatever... We are not Norway, nor Sweden. There is a loss of independence in the US and it shows in the study. That isn't news to half the county.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:11:46 AM

yeppers I was warned about debating with you, You like to bait people , post your links to opinions and if they dont agree with you they are ignorant of the fact, you bait them and report them to the mods, Ive read some of your posting history so I see the pattern, so I'm not going to fall for it.

Aww that's cute you are part of a group.




And the large group you are referring to " lobbyist" so what? its been going on since the industrial revolution , does it make it right ? no but if your hero Obama is a hypocrite when it comes to lobbyist, Obama's 2010 State of the Union speech, he said "We've excluded lobbyists from policy making jobs or seats on federal boards and commissions." Despite that, some lobbyists are working in his administration under certain exceptions to the president's executive order.

Why do you call Obama my hero?

How did you come to this conclusion, or are you just trying to make stuff up to cover the fact that you really don't have anything logical to say?




I like to know what your degree is in?

I have a masters in spotting bullsh*t.




so what you dont live in Texas you're on Nova Scotia so what why is your boxers in a knit?

I would like to respond to that, but have a hard time understanding what language you are using here. Possibly in the future, please try and use English when attempting to make your point, and maybe a comma or two.




I have no Idea why Gov Perry cut out the funding, quite honestly I dont care either he has his reasons take it up with his supporters or administration.

I would guess it has something to do with the fact he thinks there is an invisible sky wizard pulling the strings.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:44:26 AM
Not falling for your baiting and stick to the point , assuming you have a point so what does Gov Perry cutting the funding to PP have to do with the subject title or do you just like hear yourself talk, sorry I mean read your posting?

It was in response to a poster with a limited understanding of the role that government plays in their lives, and how a government that allocates funds to social programs actually have a happier population, for one due to the fact that it is money well spent.
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:18:00 AM

You probably do not even know the difference between a Dixiecrat and a Democrat


Raises hand...I do...I do...

A democrat is a democrat while a dixicrat, ever since the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, has changed affiliations and now is a republican.
 Aries_328
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:51:03 PM
^^^ hahaha


Gallup, however, went straight to the source. It compiled its list by asking 1,000 people in each of the 148 nations surveyed five questions about whether they experienced a lot of enjoyment the day before and if they felt respected, well-rested, laughed and smiled a lot, and did or learned something interesting.

Gallup found that 85 percent of adults worldwide felt they were treated with respect all day, 72 percent smiled and laughed a lot, 73 percent felt enjoyment most of the day and 72 percent felt well-rested.


Well, no wonder we are so far down the list. Progressive stands for 'lack of respect', and protests, and work stoppages, and riots, and vandalism, and theft of property, and well you are too fat, you smoke too much, you are not educated enough, you use the wrong language, you believe in wrong things, you must accommodate MEEEEEEEEE me me me me me me me... me me me me me me me me me me... me me me me me me me.

spoiled brats are never happy ;)
 DameWrite
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:21:43 PM
The reason this stupid article even made it to print is so that the population would feel that unhappiness is based on lack of material things, and if they don't demand the governments to save their butts with step by step, fck me over, help lines to being an entrepreneur, then it's all their fault. ( for not paying for their ideas to be stolen under the patent office rules of course). The author (or spin doctor) who wrote this, is using some fancy b.s. accounting to give the impression that those with, should be willing to give up some, those without, should get off their asses and do it their way, (because they're deprived)and those unhappy should blame themselves or the administration for letting them down. They are saying, LET US IN, WE KNOW WHAT YOU NEED> what a bunch of crap.

This b.s. comparing means nothing, all it does is distract that we are all getting fcked over and it sidetracks us with lies that location or a type of governing has something to do with it. We don't need to be governed! Do not think that choice a is better than choice B. Choose self. All these families in control are corrupt.

Should we move now? See the light on who is best to tell us what to do? Give up our natural ways so that big company's can make things "right" for us? BE happy being ALLOWED to do things? Shoot to kill to kill? fck this. IMO this kind of crap should not be read.

The places that didn't make any list (because they are not in the spotlight until we go after their resources) are probably the happiest living their simple self sufficient lives.

Don't let these greedos and the spinners and the media and the globalists fool you.

This is propaganda.

 OMG!WTF!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:41:31 PM

The places that didn't make any list (because they are not in the spotlight until we go after their resources) are probably the happiest living their simple self sufficient lives.


You have an incredibly naive and way overly romanticised view of what it means to live a "simple self sufficient" life. You can bliss out all you want but eventually you're going to need health care and that means either you, or the tax payers you live closest to are going to have to pay for it.

Just curious though, what are some of the places that didn't make the list?
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I have health care and haven't used it for years. Prevention saves me a lot of hassle.

The times I did use it, (every time) I didn't need to but didn't realize it back then. I was naive.

Forests have most of the medicines you'll ever need, that is why the pharma company's are roping areas off.

Do you want me to make a list of the country's that didn't make the list? I'm not going to waste my time. Feel free to do that if you like.

What I'm saying is don't fall for the lie that we need "stuff" to be happy and don't leave the decision in greedos hands about what we need/want. We need our health, a warm dry bed, loving people, HEALTHY food, fresh clean air and clean water, a sense of self worth and a creative healthy mind. If we have these, we can create any bonuses.

Without these basic things we won't be happy, not matter how many t.v.'s or cars or running around we do. So, don't sacrifice any of these REAL needs for short term so called happiness that some peon is trying to sell. The price is too high if any of it comes at the expense of any of these.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:45:01 AM
This should make the thinking person just how dysfunctional the the USA has become; as we were once the "beacon" for all to converge in and a model to emulate.


Work used to be something that people took pride in and respected themselves and others for.
Now it's something people seek to avoid at all costs.
Deterioration of happiness is the byproduct.
Moral of the story - Do what you love and love what you do.
 OMG!WTF!
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I have have health care and haven't used it for years. Prevention saves me a lot of hassle.

The times I did use it, (every time) I didn't need to but didn't realize it back then. I was naive.


You have to be so bloody rich in the first place to even think like this. If ever there were irony in its purest form.

Forests have most of the medicines you'll ever need, that is why the pharma company's are roping areas off.


Riiiight. So you'd be happier rummaging around in the jungle than going to a real doctor?

What I'm saying is don't fall for the lie that we need "stuff" to be happy


What you're saying is the same old Me and Bobbie McGee stuff about freedom, having nothing to lose, money can't buy me happiness etc etc that has been brought down to you by the wealthiest members of our society for ages. It's a grand privledge to even phathom that notion. However, materialism has very little to do with it. The same issues that make wealthy consumers unhappy make the simple, noble folk of your idealism unhappy.


Do you want me to make a list of the country's that didn't make the list? I'm not going to waste my time. Feel free to do that if you like.


No. Just an example of a place where people are thrilled to live simple, sustainable lives. Or, just check out the graduation model, a study I think by the Freakonomics people. They actually go to poor countries and measure happiness as the population "graduates" to a wealthier status. Turns out money, in the form of food security, health care, opportunity and upward mobility can buy you happiness.
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I do consider myself to be bloody rich in the first place. I was born and live in an area where it's a hell of a lot easier to get by.

Yes, I'm happier rummaging through the forest than going to a doc.

Bobbie McGee is a great tune. Hippy kids have been tripping around and probably always will. What does this have anything to do with what I'm talking about?

"Money in the form of...can buy happiness" It's not the money that "bought" the happiness.

I did not say we need nothing, but money does not have to be in the equation, just because it has been for a long time.

If everyone's so happy with the crap they have, why is it all the things they do for fun/peace/health are the simple things in life?

Do you have a garden? Like to build things? Get creative/play music? Have community?

BTW OMG, you don't sound happy.

 TraveliciousGuy
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Hoover (Democrat) oversaw the 19th amendment but women's vote took off during the election of Coolidge (Republican) in 1928.


Actually, Hoover was a Republican elected in 1928.
Coolidge was a Republican elected in 1924, after finishing Harding's term (Harding died in office and Coolidge was his Vice-President) begun in 1920.
 Yule_liquor
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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:46:02 PM
@Paul k


nanny state that takes care of you from birth to death, Henry Ford once said the following:


Hoping that you aren't a hypocrite; I'll safely presume that when you reach retirement age; you'll refuse or decline to accept all the FEDERAL money & health insurance that you would be entitled to until you die. Let us know how that is gonna work out for ya!

Btw; what do you think Henny Ford woulda said when all the CEO's of the (not so) big 3; went to Washington before a senate committe meeting with TIN CUP in hand asking for a FEDERAL bail-out???

Why don't you ask the main recipients of that money how it WORKED OUT for them?
 OMG!WTF!
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Posted: 1/24/2013 6:44:58 PM

Yes, I'm happier rummaging through the forest than going to a doc.


Statistically your life will be much shorter. But luckily you have healthy food, water, hygiene, and shelter (all of which require a great deal of money) so you have the luxury of living like a real poor person.


Bobbie McGee is a great tune. Hippy kids have been tripping around and probably always will. What does this have anything to do with what I'm talking about?


Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. The anthem of two broke kids bumming around, playing the harmonica, singing, hitch hiking, living a life I assume you would describe as happy. I just find it ironic that the people expressing the sentiment in the song are typically wealthy vocalists/song writers.

It's like how Bono always tells you to give money to Africans while sitting on about 300 million. Or any star du jour protesting a pipeline that can provide tens of thousands of people with incomes and can be built safer than any of the 300k miles of existing pipeline. Or Al Gore telling us we're all going to die if we don't sit quietly in the dark while he tours the world on a private jet.


If everyone's so happy with the crap they have, why is it all the things they do for fun/peace/health are the simple things in life?

Do you have a garden? Like to build things? Get creative/play music? Have community?


We do the simple things for fun because they are simple for us. For example, someone who exists daily by gathering individual grains of rice to feed his/her family isn't going to spend his/her free time mucking about in the garden. Finding pleasure in gardening is a great luxury afforded to relatively rich people.


I did not say we need nothing, but money does not have to be in the equation, just because it has been for a long time


If your point is material wealth doesn't make people happy, then fine. I just think you've lost the other half of the equation. I think it should be amended to say "money can't buy RICH people happiness".


BTW OMG, you don't sound happy.


I'm good. I just know what butters my bread.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:10:48 PM

WIN Gallup Poll did a worldwide survey for the happiest countries.... They managed a different list:
1.Colombia
2.Malaysia
3.Brazil
4.Saudi Arabia
5.Philippines
6.Finland
7.Azerbaijan
8.Peru
9.Switzerland
10.Iceland
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28. Afghanistan
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31.United States
32.France


Interesting..............as in a large group of people ,it shows you money and stature etc,depending where you live too, does not not guarantee you the best of life and fulfillment...
The Times Mag did a special article on the USA a few years ago of who was the most happy,secure folks living the best life. It was those with incomes $75,000 to $120, 000 bracket money wise were most secure and happy. Those less or more then had more stress and unhappiness in there personal family lifestyles.
I have traveled many countries and many neighborhoods all over and most were above average in genuine good cheers to myself and others.
So if you can smile, you can make someone happy too,where ever........ and it cost nothing.......aloha
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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18559908-the-happiest-countries-balance-matters-more-than-money?lite

I guess we've gotten alot happier in the past 4 months. lol. Just goes to show...it all depends on who you ask!


In fact, according to this year’s Better Life Index, released Tuesday by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the U.S. is the sixth-happiest of the 36 countries rated, falling just behind such perennially cheerful nations as Sweden and Australia, which grabbed the top spot.

If money were the key to happiness, America would be No. 1 based on its top ranking for disposable income and total household wealth. But that’s not the only thing that matters.

The Paris-based OECD says that gross domestic product, often used to measure a country’s success, isn’t a sufficient indicator of people’s sense of well-being. So the organization takes 11 factors into account, including security, work-life balance, environment and housing.

The U.S. ranks sixth with all 11 factors weighted equally. But if you give the most weight to the elusive “life satisfaction” category, northern European countries are atop, with Switzerland, Norway and Sweden taking the top three spots and the U.S. dropping to 12th.

Work-life balance? Denmark, Norway and Sweden come out on top, and the U.S. is a middling 15th.
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For those who believe that the federal govt. should be the end all for everything, that is should be the nanny state that takes care of you from birth to death, Henry Ford once said the following:


I wouldn't use Ford as an example since he was a raving anti Semite.
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Posted: 5/28/2013 4:48:01 PM
Hold the presses! This just in.....

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/05/daily-chart-17

This graph, showing the "well being" of the top ten % and the bottom ten % for selected countries has the following findings

The top 10% in the US are the happiest top 10% in the world
The bottom 10% in the US are the 4 happiest bottom 10% in the world
The bottom 10% of Canada are the happiest bottom 10% in the world
Mexico has the least happiest top and bottom 10% in the world

Of course the magazine, the Economist, derived the data from this site

http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/#/21111111111

Which has Australia as number 1 in the "better life" index
Canada is number 2
the USA is number 6
Mexico is second last and
Turkey is last

Have a look and make what you want of these charts. Seems countries with good economies, democracy, some social programs and some rule of law generally do well in this world. I think we would be wise to hang onto that.
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Well looks like sweden is off the happy yodeller callander eh?

Took yonks for the msm to see the riots that went on. Probably they
were reluctant to mention them as they were uncomfortable.

Stockholm is reeling as two schools, a police station and dozens of cars were set ablaze in the fifth night of riots.

Twelve people were arrested as rioters and police clashed with stone throwing youths in poor, largely immigrant districts of the Swedish capital.

Blogger and social commentator, Mishra Mrutyuanjai, believes Sweden has full right to apply restrictive immigration policies when there aren’t many jobs to offer to the people who come to the country.

http://rt.com/op-edge/sweden-stockholm-immigrants-riots-771/

The uk will never be in the happy clappy country top ten as its falling apart and wracked with division.

Greece, spain, italy, belgium and of course france is in a league of its own.

The middle east is donald ducked africa is a basket case

And who in their right mind would want to live in china? Visit aye as long as you ken your gaun hame.

Japan? Na doesnt appeal.
None of the far east does to be honest.

Australia still looks ok but they have toatsie wee spiders that are maniac killing machines. And fosters beer is yad.

South america is a no no as the ching is dirt cheap. My mate went to columbia on holiday and was a chinged paranoid
wreck when he got hame.

Ill nominate scotland. Its in the yad life top ten but east west hames best. Holidays are ok but you cannae beat getting hame
among your ain folk.

Here's tae us
Wha's like us
Damn few,
And they're a' deid
Mair's the pity!

May those who live truly be always believed,
And those who deceive us be always deceived.
Here's to the men of all classes,
Who through lasses and glasses
Will make themselves asses!

I drink to the health of another,
And the other I drink to is he
In the hope that he drinks to another,
And the other he drinks to is me.

Then let us toast John Barleycorn,
Each man a glass in hand
Andy may his great prosperity
Ne'er fail in old Scotland!
 Aries_328
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Posted: 6/7/2013 9:20:52 AM
Here is one for the top happiest countries
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/06/06/189282743/book-news-the-bible-an-unexpected-bestseller-in-norway


A new Norwegian language translation of the Bible was the secular country's best-selling book of 2012. (By comparison, the Bible didn't even break the top 100 in the U.S. last year). The Associated Press credits a marketing campaign by Norway's Bible Society for at least part of the Bible's popularity there: The society "promoted the new translation like a pop fiction novel, stirring anticipation by giving out teasers of biblical stories before its release," and "targeted teenagers with pink leather or denim covers, and adults with bridal or sophisticated literary covers." A popular six-hour play called Bibelen ("Bible" in Norwegian) just closed in Oslo after a successful three-month run.
Jean Rabe, editor of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin, has stepped down after recent controversies surrounding the magazine's treatment of women. A cover featuring a scantily clad woman received a good deal of press, and after complaints from readers, two of the magazine's writers wrote a controversial column claiming that they were being censored by "liberal fascists." Another article said Barbie was a "role-model" because she maintained "quiet dignity the way a woman should." SFWA President John Scalzi has apologized: "The Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America is an organization that acts to support, inform, defend, promote and advocate for our members — all of them, not just some of them. When members believe that they or other members are belittled or minimized by our official publications, that's a problem."


Do those creating these lists of happy countries ignore parts of the population in order to get the list with their ideals at the top rather then the truth?

BS smells to much to remain hidden forever.
 Yule_liquor
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Posted: 6/8/2013 7:45:44 AM
vlad


Ill nominate scotland.


Yeah, as long as your umbilical cord stays connected to England.
Its easy to drink and be happy as long as your overlords are paying the tab!
 vlad dracul
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Ha ha good one yule. Very chucklesome indeed
Many are keen to point the finger at the Scots for taking advantage of the Barnett Formula to maintain voter-friendly policies such as free prescriptions and university attendance.

As a result, there’s some understandable anger among those who think that English taxpayers are subsiding ‘giveaways’ from the governing Scottish National Party (and, arguably, the Welsh, who enjoy many of the same perks).

Indeed, reacting to this week’s figures, Conservative MP George Henderson claimed that "it is simply wrong that English taxpayers are being asked to help subsidise for people living in Scotland a range of services not available in England".

However, it’s worth reminding ourselves that the current system for sharing out public spending was created in Westminster, and it is the Treasury that has the power to change it – after all, the Barnett Formula is merely an administrative system, and isn’t enshrined in any law.

And whatever might be said in the papers, not all Scots are in favour of the status quo. The Scottish parliament’s Commission on Scottish Devolution, led by Sir Kenneth Calman, has also criticised the current method of allocating spending.h
http://money.uk.msn.com/blog/pounds-and-sense-blogpost.aspx?post=308b2b65-11f9-4e7f-95a5-32315c9e8f8a

So the overlords have sanctioned the thing that gets me elephants.

First they giveth then they dont taketh away

Toodle mcpip
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