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 Tsar850
Joined: 3/23/2013
Msg: 155
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By the way, what is your demeaning term for a male who dresses provocatively, has sex, swears and drinks?


That would be a wh0re dog......However there is no excuse for rape. I went out with a lady a few times and twice she said to stop after we had been at foreplay for over a hour and of course I did.

However I didn't give her the third chance to treat me like a door mat. Each person has to be responsible for their own actions.
 Midwest_Southwest
Joined: 9/9/2012
Msg: 156
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/8/2013 8:16:26 PM
True, 4ms4me.

I think the message that was heard above all is: “We are anonymous, We are knightsec, the wicked should expect us.” “We are Legion. Expect us." I salute them.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 4/9/2013 10:25:22 AM

So girls, the message seems to be, go ahead and dress, act, talk, and drink like a tramp because anything that happens to you will not be your fault. Unfortunately, when you wash up on a beach or are found in a roadside ditch, you'll be just as dead.
So taking advantage of a person is about how they dress, act, talk ... or drink?

So what the poster is saying is that no man, woman or child would ever be inappropriately invaded if they just dress right, act right, talk right and don't "drink like a tramp"?

And it appears that if you do just happen to dress, act, talk, and "drink like a tramp" (with your friends at your side) then you also deserve to wash up on a beach or be found in a roadside ditch because obviously you asked for it ... because obviously there are people out there who have the right to do that ... right?

I know an older gentleman who always had a very high sexual drive (not a "friend") who insists that if women wouldn't dress provacatively they would not have men making inappropriate moves on them. He just doesn't seem to understand that "rape" and "illegal invasion of others' bodies" is not about being "turned on" by the opposite sex. It is about taking advantage of another human being ... having power over another (weaker) human being.

In the case of Steubeville, the football team there just seems to always get a free pass and this time they didn't.

Doen't it make you wonder what model they were following when they felt they could break the law and yet remain "untouched"? The above poster who mentioned that it takes a village to raise a child was spot on. Those boys were modeling behavior that they have seen in that town for years. That's why they were so shocked they were prosecuted.

I went out with a lady a few times and twice she said to stop after we had been at foreplay for over a hour and of course I did.
Of course you did! (I mean, who would go into a public forum and admit othersie?)

Is the lady (female) the only one responsible for saying "stop" ... or does that responsibility also occasionally fall on the male of the species?
 Midwest_Southwest
Joined: 9/9/2012
Msg: 158
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/10/2013 3:48:38 PM
This is a great response on the Steubenville case, all within 27 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZxv5WCWivM
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 159
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/12/2013 5:14:51 AM


So, what is the girls responsibility??? 10%? 20%? 30%/40%? 50%?...I mean if she's responsible for putting herself in a bad position...then what did she do to earn getting raped and to what degree is she responsible?


Post #160
I would say 7.87 % only


Well now...there you have it...she was responsible for her rape...
 enigoM
Joined: 2/18/2013
Msg: 160
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/12/2013 6:00:29 AM
The girl is 0% responsible ,people are crazy..just because a girl drinks to much dresses a certain way passes out or whatever she has no reasonable expectation of being raped..you guys are nuts..no one deserves to be raped...a girl should be able to pass out scantily clad ,partially nude or nude and not expect to be raped..the guys that take advantage of anyone for that reason or any other are sick Bstrds...normal people would cover her up and protect her...
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
Msg: 161
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Posted: 4/12/2013 7:36:28 AM
Well I suggest that we then start to use this sort of logic for when men start to get mugged for their wallets or when this idea starts to catch on, we can then blame men for having a nice car for being shot in a car jacking. Or perhaps home invasions can now be defended with this mentality. I mean isnt that the same thing that some of these men are suggesting. That this young girl flaunted what she had and when those poor, helpless little boys were sooo overcome by their desires for what she had, they cant be held responsible for what she "made" them do with all her whorish behaviour.

So to the gentlemen that support the she was partially responsible theory, are you ready for getting a taste of your own medicine when you get mugged because you were wearing a $200 coat or when you get carjacked and shot driving you nice car? Still going to feel the same way about culpability?
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 162
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/12/2013 9:14:20 AM
^^^^^^
"Well I suggest that we then start to use this sort of logic for when men start to get mugged for their wallets or when this idea starts to catch on, we can then blame men for having a nice car for being shot in a car jacking."

If you go walking around at night in bad neighborhoods wearing a $50,000 gold Rolex watch, your chances of getting mugged go up accordingly, and most savvy people know this without needing it to be proven to them. There are some who will learn the hard way.
Young people do not have that level of life experience, they need parents, teachers, older siblings to guide them through their formative years. If not, they too may learn the hard way.
I have a daughter, now 20, and if she went somewhere and got passed-out drunk, who knows what could happen to her? She knows it too, and HAS known for years.
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
Msg: 163
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Posted: 4/12/2013 9:38:43 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

But we dont call these men sluts and whores and do whatever it takes to not prosecute those that assaulted these men now do we? Hiding behind some moral hi handedness about how they should have known better or better yet, try to mitigate away the assault by blaming the victim for driving a car they should have known would be attractive to these criminals, or by having a wallet to begin with as some sort of blame shift away from the perpetrators.


I have to wonder if the fact that some men do get angry and frustrated when it comes to getting their sexual needs met that they empathize with the male doing the assault, so they try to minimize what happened in order to justify their own feelings, because that would mean they are just as bad as those doing the assault.
 4ms4me
Joined: 4/24/2010
Msg: 165
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:16:52 AM

But we dont call these men sluts and whores

There's another case where four 17 & 18 year old football players are being charged with rape of two 13-year-old girls. Naturally, there's a contingent who are blaming the girls, saying they dressed provocatively and flirted with the boys so they pretty much got what they were asking for. Someone noted that it was a pretty sad society when raped females are sluts, but boys are just doing what boys do.


the guys that take advantage of anyone for that reason or any other are sick Bstrds...normal people would cover her up and protect her...

+1
Thank you, Enigo.
 Midwest_Southwest
Joined: 9/9/2012
Msg: 167
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Posted: 4/12/2013 3:46:14 PM

If you go walking around at night in bad neighborhoods wearing a $50,000 gold Rolex watch, your chances of getting mugged go up accordingly, and most savvy people know this without needing it to be proven to them. There are some who will learn the hard way.
Young people do not have that level of life experience, they need parents, teachers, older siblings to guide them through their formative years. If not, they too may learn the hard way.
I have a daughter, now 20, and if she went somewhere and got passed-out drunk, who knows what could happen to her? She knows it too, and HAS known for years.


Another analogy- a closer analogy- is the 14-16 year old boy who goes to a party with school mates, gets drunk and passes out, and the other kids at the party, say, take his wallet phone and watch, or maybe take off his clothes and photograph or videotape him, perhaps doing sexual things to him.

I don’t think we even consider that possibility, because it doesn’t happen, or if does, it happens so much more rarely than girls are violated. The problem is that SOME people excuse violating girls and women, or shift responsibility to them, in a way that they don’t to boys and men.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 169
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/13/2013 6:44:49 AM

Another teen gang raped. This time in Nova Scotia. The rapists took photos, published them online and the victim was vilified and bullied.

Her rapists were not charged. 18 months later she hanged herself.
Her father is devastated. RMCP have only now made arrests.

Too little, too late.

Actually if you knew a bit more about the case you would probably say:

Too much, too late.

As one look at that girls twitter and tumbler feed would show you she was no innocent little girl, she was a sexually promiscuous young lady who was into lots of bad stuff and was not shy about telling the world about it.

There was no photos, there was a photo and from what I understand it was no more pornographic than stuff she was already posting on her own.


While someone taking their life is a tragedy, it is no worse that innocent people getting dragged back through the mud because of media fueled misguided outrage.

Now while no one can be guilty of dressing or acting a certain way, if people took a little peek behind the curtain they would see there is some serious doubt with regards to her story.

So I would say the reason why those boys did not get charged, is because there was overwhelming evidence that no crime happened other than some drunk kids had sex and someone took a photo.
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 170
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/13/2013 6:49:59 AM
^^

either that, or the perps were related to some of the local cops or politicians, so case files got "lost", etc.
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 171
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Posted: 4/13/2013 6:50:21 AM
^^

either that, or the perps were related to some of the local cops or politicians, and thus case files, reports, and photos mysteriously got "lost", etc....

this happens all too often.. a bit less than in Iran, perhaps, but still too often
 NDTfan
Joined: 6/5/2012
Msg: 172
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/13/2013 7:01:48 AM

As one look at that girls twitter and tumbler feed would show you she was no innocent little girl, she was a sexually promiscuous young lady who was into lots of bad stuff and was not shy about telling the world about it.


So I guess only "innocent little girls" can be raped.

If you knew about the case, you would know that she was 15 and drunk.... both conditions that prove rape. You'd also know that the suspects have admitted that she was throwing up during the attack which either meant that she was incredibly intoxicated and could not legally give consent or that she was undergoing trauma which would imply that the act was not consensual at all.

The RCMP spokesman also said that the boys "knew what they did was wrong and were sorry". So if it was consensual, what were for they sorry for?

These 4 are obviously not innocent.

And back to the "innocent little girl" comment. Even if a woman fcuks 500 men, it's still rape if she says no to the 501st.

And until EVERYONE understands that anything but a direct invitation by a mentally capable person is rape, then rapists are going to keep justifying their rapes by pointing at every other factor. Because they know their apologists (people just like you) are going to back them up.

Disgusting.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:08:10 AM

As one look at that girls twitter and tumbler feed would show you she was no innocent little girl, she was a sexually promiscuous young lady who was into lots of bad stuff and was not shy about telling the world about it.


You're right. Women/girls who like having sex are impossible to rape. Revolutionary thinking.


There was no photos, there was a photo and from what I understand it was no more pornographic than stuff she was already posting on her own.


So there was a photo, then? And it was pornographic? You realize it's a crime to distribute these sort of photos? I can post whatever photos I want on line, but you can't. Someone committed a crime but you think it's not a big deal because the girl was a tramp. Nice.


So I would say the reason why those boys did not get charged, is because there was overwhelming evidence that no crime happened other than some drunk kids had sex and someone took a photo.


Really? What kind of overwhelming evidence? Because in reality the evidence is very similar to the Stuebenville case.


The statement posted by Anonymous today claimed that one of the boys "has made several public statements admitting that he did have sex with [Rehtaeh] on the night in question" and that "she was throwing up during the act."

The confession includes the names of three other boys who allegedly "took turns having sex with [Rehtaeh]."

Anonymous said it shared the information it pieced together, including screenshots of the confession, with law enforcement.


Maybe you need to hear it again...if someone is puking on themselves, it's a good bet they're not in a position to agree to have sex with you and your four friends at a party with people taking pictures and then sharing those pictures with the world. Just a thought.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:40:46 AM

So girls, the message seems to be, go ahead and dress, act, talk, and drink like a tramp because anything that happens to you will not be your fault.
Does the same apply to men?

If a man gets fall-down drunk, is it okay for more powerful people to take advantage of him? Rob him, undress him, sodomize him, photo it and post the photos.

Hey ... it's what he gets for being so weak that he can't overpower those taking advantage of him ... right?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 175
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Posted: 4/13/2013 12:18:32 PM

The RCMP spokesman also said that the boys "knew what they did was wrong and were sorry". So if it was consensual, what were for they sorry for?

Getting drunk

Being a horny teenager and letting a girl seduced them into a situation that all parties later regretted posting a picture that was related to the situation.

Kids to dumb stuff, both boys and girls and to think that the blame lays completely on one side of the table is a narrow minded view at best.

Intimidated by a police officer so will say anything.

Etc....
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So there was a photo, then? And it was pornographic?

If it was pornographic, why was on one charged either with possession or distribution?

Have you considered the possibly that the photo was in fact not pornographic?




You realize it's a crime to distribute these sort of photos?

Yep it sure is, so again why no charges?

As if someone does not considered the possibility that the image was not actually pornographic then all they have proved is they have failed to consider a very logical possibility and proved they are not thinking rationally.




I can post whatever photos I want on line, but you can't...

So it is not child porn if the kid post their own picture?




Someone committed a crime but you think it's not a big deal because the girl was a tramp. Nice.

No, I am putting out there a very logical possibility that people are acting on limited information, it is you that is acting just like the mob and attacking anyone that gets in the way of the possibility that a pretty white may not be as innocent as she is being portrayed out to be.




Really? What kind of overwhelming evidence? Because in reality the evidence is very similar to the Stuebenville case.

The simple fact, that there is a very good chance that this was a case of kids getting drunk / stoned and having sex.




Maybe you need to hear it again...if someone is puking on themselves, it's a good bet they're not in a position to agree to have sex with you and your four friends at a party with people taking pictures and then sharing those pictures with the world. Just a thought.

So now there are multiple photos?

Or are you just exaggerating for effect?

Your statement is a good example of how misinformation spreads.



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Either way I had a feeling I would get jumped on for offering up logical possibility here, but hey far be it for me to get in the way of selective outrage, I guess it is a good thing though that most people limit this behavior to pretty white girls because there would be no way they could keep up if they cared about the all the others.

This hyperbole is nothing more than Missing white woman syndrome (MWWS) on steroids.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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Posted: 4/13/2013 1:51:20 PM
Being a horny teenager and letting a girl seduced them into a situation that all parties later regretted posting a picture that was related to the situation.


What a horrible thing to say. The girl said she was raped, pictures show her getting raped. People now admit to raping her and to seeing her being raped. But you assume that she was a willing participant even though she was puking drunk. Gross gross gross.


Either way I had a feeling I would get jumped on for offering up logical possibility here


I get that feeling to when I say really stupid things. A "logical possibility" to you is that a girl complained to the rcmp that she was raped, dropped out of school, moved, endured two years of bullying and then killed herself because she consented to having sex with four boys while puking drunk and then allowing the photos to be placed on line for everyone to see. And this is logical? F'ck me.


If it was pornographic, why was on one charged either with possession or distribution?

Have you considered the possibly that the photo was in fact not pornographic?


Yeah. Like they were just photos of her and her friends drinking and having fun? Yeah. And then she killed herself because people teased her for doing what everyone else was doing. Well thought out.

Why was no one charged with a crime? Because they RCMP is utterly and totally incompetent and is stuck in the same misogynistic bs that people in Stuebenville are. As we speak the force is being sued by 300 female members for sexual harrassement. Several dozen officers are being investigated for years of sexual harrassement and abuse of native women and girls in BC. That, plus they have no idea what constitutes reasonable grounds for pressing charges. From the Calgary Herald today...


An earlier RCMP statement said photos online don't constitute proof.

That's news to Calgary police detectives contacted Friday. Of course, photos can be proof. Boasting online and in texts is proof - as the Steubenville, Ohio rape case that saw two young star football players jailed recently, will attest.


Incompetence is why no one was never charged. Obvious, brutal and culpable incompetence.


I guess it is a good thing though that most people limit this behavior to pretty white girls because there would be no way they could keep up if they cared about the all the others.


Absolutely moronic nonsensical straw man distraction bs. You're what's wrong with men.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 178
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Posted: 4/13/2013 9:31:33 PM
I'm very familiar with Steubenville and how the football players are basically untouchable. My brother's wife 's brother (my brother's brother-in-law) worked in the school system back in the 60's ... eventually held a pretty high position.

He was from Cincinnati, Ohio ... told us he had never seen anything like it ... how the football players (school athletes) were all basically untouchable. That was definitely a situation waiting to happen even years ago. That was before the technology of today that makes it possible for even a cell phone to photograph all blunders and lapses in judgment and then immediately send them out pretty much into view of the whole world!
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 179
Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/14/2013 7:22:48 AM


Being a horny teenager and letting a girl seduced them into a situation that all parties later regretted posting a picture that was related to the situation.


What a horrible thing to say. The girl said she was raped, pictures show her getting raped. People now admit to raping her and to seeing her being raped. But you assume that she was a willing participant even though she was puking drunk. Gross gross gross.

I was talking about the boys being horny teenagers.

Has ever a girl claimed she was raped when in fact it did not happen?

Also are you claiming there where several photos taken, or are you once again exaggerating for effect?

I also am the one that is not assuming anything, I am the one that is looking at the information I have available to me and proposing a logical scenario as to why no charges where laid.

You are the one claiming you know exactly what happened and you seem to be basing that on opinions and not facts, which is clear in your many misrepresentations of the case.





Either way I had a feeling I would get jumped on for offering up logical possibility here


I get that feeling to when I say really stupid things. A "logical possibility" to you is that a girl complained to the rcmp that she was raped, dropped out of school, moved, endured two years of bullying and then killed herself because she consented to having sex with four boys while puking drunk and then allowing the photos to be placed on line for everyone to see. And this is logical? F'ck me.

Again you are showing how these stories get blow out of proportion with your assumptions and exaggerations.

She did not drop out of school, she transferred to another school.

To make the claim that she killed herself because she was raped, brings up the questions as then why do not all people who are raped kill themselves?

That's news to Calgary police detectives contacted Friday. Of course, photos can be proof. Boasting online and in texts is proof - as the Steubenville, Ohio rape case that saw two young star football players jailed recently, will attest.




I guess it is a good thing though that most people limit this behavior to pretty white girls because there would be no way they could keep up if they cared about the all the others.

Absolutely moronic nonsensical straw man distraction bs. You're what's wrong with men.

Actually you are displaying the very behavior that is described with MWG Syndrome, so stay classy and keep those personal insults coming, as I enjoy the irony of someone showing outrage to bullies while showing they are one themselves.
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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Posted: 4/14/2013 9:27:01 AM

Has ever a girl claimed she was raped when in fact it did not happen?


Yeah, you're right Aristotle. Because that has happened before the logical assumption is that it has happened here. Well thought out. This is why people get away with rape all the time. If there is no investigation it is very difficult to determine if she was raped or not. So when you say stuff like this it is a diservice to all rape victims.


Also are you claiming there where several photos taken, or are you once again exaggerating for effect?


Are you saying then that it actually matters how many pornographic images were distributed? Because that would be just incredibly offensive at best. First you said the image(s) weren't even pornographic. I think you've realized that you got that one wrong. Now you're saying that if there were only one image it should somehow make a difference. So to answer your really stupid question...there might have been more than one....


When it came to the photo or photos taken that night, “nothing was done about that because they couldn’t prove who had pressed the photo button on the phone,” she said.

She was told that the distribution of the photos is “not really a criminal issue, it’s more of a community issue,” she said.

Even though she was 15 at the time, which is child pornography.


You also said that the girl had a slutty blog or web site where she posted her own pornographic images. Does this also matter somehow? Does that make it less likely that she was raped? But most importantly...do you have proof of this somewhere? Because I can't find anything supporting your claim. Or is this just insider info? It actually doesn't matter one way or the other because it's like saying she was wearing sexy clothes...it's totally immaterial. In fact, it wouldn't even be allowed to be entered into evidence if she had gotten a trial. I'm so glad legal precedent has trumps guys like you.


You are the one claiming you know exactly what happened and you seem to be basing that on opinions and not facts, which is clear in your many misrepresentations of the case.


Here's what we know as fact right now...there was a pornographic image or images showing her having sex with four boys distributed against her wishes. She was drunk and thowing up on the night it happened. One of the boys has since admitted she was raped. She had to leave her school and city because other students sent mean texts and posted mean things on social media about her being a slut. The RCMP did not investigate because they don't understand what consitutes evidence. There is the exact same evidence as in the Stuebenville case which has resulted in convictions. The rcmp did not even interview the boys in question and ask if they raped her. However they have since reopened the investigation which is really an extraordinary move since the plaintiff is dead. Investigations are typically not opened without a plaintiff. So you know something has given them cause for further investigation.

Keep in mind that these are the same RCMP trained investigators that required no less than 40 murdered prostitutes and several surviving protitutes running screaming out of hospitals to open an investigation into Robert Pickton.

So if after all this your logical conclusion is that it must not have happened and the girl is a slut and asked for this to happen then that's all anyone needs to know about you.


She did not drop out of school, she transferred to another school.


Do you even hear yourself typing? This is not a point in your favour. She had to change schools!


To make the claim that she killed herself because she was raped, brings up the questions as then why do not all people who are raped kill themselves?


For real? Come on man. In fact rape victims do kill themselves at a statistically significant higher rate than non rape victims, especially so when mental health issues are considered. But seriously...you have to be really behind in school to ask that one.


so stay classy and keep those personal insults coming, as I enjoy the irony of someone showing outrage to bullies while showing they are one themselves


Nope. Bullies pick on innocent people.
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 181
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Posted: 4/14/2013 9:37:44 AM

The RCMP did not investigate because they don't understand what consitutes evidence. There is the exact same evidence as in the Stuebenville case which has resulted in convictions. The rcmp did not even interview the boys in question and ask if they raped her. However they have since reopened the investigation which is really an extraordinary move since the plaintiff is dead. Investigations are typically not opened without a plaintiff. So you know something has given them cause for further investigation.

Keep in mind that these are the same RCMP trained investigators that required no less than 40 murdered prostitutes and several surviving protitutes running screaming out of hospitals to open an investigation into Robert Pickton.


yes the US appears to do a better job on crime than Canada does, in general, even more so in white collar cases


In Canada, Conrad Black would never even have had to attend court, never been charged.

he'd only have picked up a few more Orders of Canada, sort of like the criminal ex-PM (influence-peddling to BDC) Jean Chretien

and ex-PM Brian Mulroney, picking up envelopes stuffed with cash in motel rooms, from lobbyists
 PittsburghVixen
Joined: 12/9/2012
Msg: 182
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Posted: 4/14/2013 10:16:34 AM

Your statement is a good example of how misinformation spreads.

Pot...meet kettle.

msg 189: + 1.
 NDTfan
Joined: 6/5/2012
Msg: 183
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Posted: 4/14/2013 11:22:31 AM

I was talking about the boys being horny teenagers.


So if you're a horny teenager, you can just fcuk a drunk underage girl and claim that being drunk and underage seduced you into doing it?

Nice logic, scooter.


Has ever a girl claimed she was raped when in fact it did not happen?


Yup. According to the FBI, 8 percent of rape cases were unfounded, which means that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. And if "overwhelming" evidence in your case is based on whether or not charges were filed then 92 times out of 100 there's overwhelming evidence of rape. They also say that in only 2 percent of the cases that it can be demonstrably proven that the women made a false allegation. So it would make someone pretty fcuking obtuse to claim that since some women lie then all rape allegations are suspect.

Not to mention all the women who NEVER come forward because there are so many people who still believe this archaic, misogynistic blame the victim crap.


I also am the one that is not assuming anything, I am the one that is looking at the information I have available to me and proposing a logical scenario as to why no charges where laid.


So it's logical to assume that since some women lie about rape they all do.... but it's not logical that the reason no charges were laid were because a lot of police officers have the same attitude you do toward rape and didn't think it was a big enough deal to lay charges.

The police have come right out and said why they didn't lay charges:
1. Because even though she WAS underage she didn't LOOK underage.
2. Because even though they knew which phone the pictures were sent from they could not prove who was in possession of it at the time the picture was taken
3. Because they interviewed the boys (10 months later and together) and they were "sorry".


So that's bad news for 12 year old girls who develop early, GREAT news for people convicted of having child porn on their computers/phones, great news for suspects get to spend 10 months/be interviewed together to corroborate their story.... oh and who didn't "really' do anything wrong but are very sorry for that.


You are the one claiming you know exactly what happened and you seem to be basing that on opinions and not facts, which is clear in your many misrepresentations of the case.


The FACTS are that she was underage, and unable to provide legal consent because of this, that she was drinking heavily and was unable to provide legal consent because of that, and that a the cops didn't do their jobs..... most likely because of the same horrific attitude you're displaying.


To make the claim that she killed herself because she was raped, brings up the questions as then why do not all people who are raped kill themselves?


What a f****ing stupid question. Are you trying to imply people can't commit suicide because of rape and it's after effects because not everyone does it?!

So I have a question for you....

If a man follows you come from a bar because he likes the ways your a** wiggles and decides you're doing it just for him. And he brings a friend who takes pictures, and you're professional and personal reputation is shot, and you get pointed at and laughed at on the street, it's your own fault? Because you went to a bar and in doing so, seduced a horny guy into taking what he imagined you were offering? And then have some dillhole defend what he did to you by saying "Hey, don't you like to walk around shirtless sometimes and post pictures of yourself with beer and weed? What did you expect?!?!?!"
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