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 aufootballgirl
Joined: 8/19/2011
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In 2008, I was in a rollover where the driver fell asleep at the wheel. Like you I was concerned with surgeries and spinal injections. Untimately, after a year of PT which made it worse, chiro and massage was a temp fix, 2 shoulder surgeries; I found out after 2 years of feeling like a knife in my shoulder blade, my problem was nerves in my neck were radiating pain down my shoulder blade. I had a radio frequency done on my neck which is where they burn your nerve ending to stop the pain signals and it was a temp success. I will tell you now..it was NOT pleasant and took some recovery time as it inflamed the nerves till the inflamation went down. The doctor said hopefully when the nerves regenerated, I would not have pain but would probably have to continue doing the produre for. I have done it 3 times and need it again. I have found Salon Pas patches at the drug store are the BEST! Ice is also great...20 mins at a time. Trust me I tried EVERYTHING to get relief.

In Aug of 2012, I was rear ended and have pain in the same are as you and numbness and tingling and PAIN. The chiro has help minimally. Funny I saw this thread, I had this very thing done yesterday. In my case it didn't relieve the pain and by last night I was in tears and not better this morning. I bet the dr will consider the radio frequency on my lumbar as well. I apologize for the run on sentences but I am in so much pain I can't think straight!

One word of advise if you haven't already done so, Do not retained an attorney until you do due diligence. In my case in 2008, If I had I would have lost $8,000. The guy had the state minimums in ins of $25,000 and my bills and lost wages were at least a half million to a million. He filed bankrupty to avoid resposibilty and left me holding the bag. You can by law at least in GA, give written request to their ins co and find out how much coverage they have. If they have very little ins do not get an attorney or you will only short yourself. You can not get more ins money than what they have coverage.

Feel free to pm me as I will probably not be back on. I feel for you as I am in the same boat and wanted to share my experience with you so you can be educated as I wasn't as I had never been through this before 2008 and figured it out myself. People mean well when they say get an attorney but it can be a really bad mistake especially with the economy and I would imagine many people have reduced coverage to save some money. I will be glad to help you in any way I can! :-)

Christie
 Skyr
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Lower Back Pain Lumbar Epidural.
Posted: 2/23/2013 8:58:02 AM
Posted By: tickle_me_pank on 2/23/2013 11:15:59 PM

Wow, steroids shot into your spinal chord, sounds delicious. That must come with some fascinating side-effects.


No one injects into the spinal cord. The closest they'd get is an intrathecal injection (into the subarachnoid space).

For an epidural:
'epi'= above/on/next to
'dura'= the outermost covering around the spinal cord.
 Asus999
Joined: 7/22/2012
Msg: 23
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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:25:12 AM
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Feel free to pm me as I will probably not be back on. I will be glad to help you in any way I can! :-)


I tried to PM, but alas, you have the infamous email settings where local folks can only email you :o(
 arwen52
Joined: 3/13/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:09:53 PM
It's only 1 month and they're talking surgery and epidurals? Someone is trying to make a lot of money off of this.

Find a good physical therapist and a good massage therapist and don't let the massage therapist do any rough stuff on you.

Forget about "core" exercises. The research shows that they are not helpful.

There's a book called Explain Pain by Moseley and Butler. It's $75 - you can get your library to get it for you through the interlibrary loan system. It will give you some very good information.

Good luck. Too bad you aren't in my neighborhood. I deal with this kind of stuff all the time.
 southmeetswest
Joined: 4/26/2010
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:56:37 PM
asus,

have a history of lower back problems. way back in 87 severely ruptured disc at 5th lumbar. Did the ortho, the chiro, the neuro.the neuro said i should have surgery, the ortho recommended pt, the chiro, well, i was in too much pain for the adjustments.
took muscle relaxers, pain meds, physical therapy, yada, yada, yada. (hate taking meds) (hate pain meds)
Time is a factor here, it takes time and treatments to stop the acute phase of inflammation. The swelling will recede, the pain will recede.

did the steroid injections, 3 times all 3 worked wonders for me for anywhere from 6 months to 1.5 years.
eventually i got better better but i still had a lot of low grade pain and limited lifestyle because anything could trigger a flare up.
went back to surgeon 8 years later saying i have to do something to rid myself of all the pain. of course he said he couldn't do anything at that point. ended up getting a recommendation from my hair dresser on a great chiro.
that was 8 years ago. i have been pain free since the first visit. i go in and get tweaked when i get a little backache that won't go away in 24 hrs of icing and ibuprofen.

my thoughts, follow/explore the pathways suggested by your docs. except the surgical one! if you get tempted about surgery, read all you can from people who have had surgery, and realize the risks are greater for bad outcomes than good with surgery.

try using ibuprofen or anti-inflammatory meds instead of pain pills and muscle relaxers. Ice, Ice, Ice, not heat.
ice for 15 min., gentle stretching, and ibuprofen is my recipe
be willing to ice 3-4 or more times a day. buy a belt that velcros around your hips.

stay out of the car, truck. try not to sit too much, use good body mechanics, keep mental stress down as that tightens muscles all over our bodies. get a great mattress, not a good one, a great one. tempur-pedic is my top choice and would not ever have another. lose any extra weight, that helps alot.
do yoga, do hypnosis, do acupuncture.

I like to remind myself that The Power that made the body Heals the body. That means you take care of your body so your body can heal itself.

kaylee
 melodyof_k
Joined: 5/2/2012
Msg: 26
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Posted: 2/23/2013 6:03:09 PM
HI
take a look at my thread by Melody in the

Health and Fitness Forum

many good answers there.

I would agree with Red Jello
even as far to say...NO chiropracter at all.
I did go to one

the core excersizes are good.
all they do is have you lay down and breath a certain way to strengthen your core muscles.
it does not hurt you.

I have had the steroid injections.
they do not hurt. they will give you something to relax and not feel the injection at all.

I will also stay away from any surgery as long as I can.
But if nothing else works...go to a good neurologist for a reccomendation.
also....taking an oral steroid helped me for about a week.
dont over do it on non pain days...it will hit you a few days later.

good that you had your MRI..that is an important step.
much healing send you way.
I am still suffering from this but after my second shot I am feeling alot better. they told me to give it 2 weeks to make sure it works

question..can it take that long to work?
if i am not supposed to put a question on this persons post pleases ignore this

Red Jello's advice has helped me.
why have a chiro push on your spine which is already a source of pain?
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:36:35 AM
The lawyer has suggested maybe getting 3 sets of epidural injections done to help with the pain.


The lawyer is suggesting injections?!?!?
Who seeks med advice from a lawyer?

Is he using your pain to build up the bills for damages?
Do you want to get money or get better?

the "epidurals" are steroid injections. There are many serious risks associated with them.

You need to see a PHYSICAL THERAPIST now!!
Build up your muscles BEFORE taking any other course of action.
The lawyer had you go to a chiropractor BEFORE seeing an ortho?
Unbelievable! You can do more damage.
You need a lumbar MRI before any decision on injections or surgery (absolute last resort).
 melodyof_k
Joined: 5/2/2012
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:03:35 AM
you are following a lawyers advise on a medical condition?
this can be a serious condition.
back pain can go on for years.

getting an epidural from a specialist who mainly focuses his work on doing epidurals all day long for years is not dangerous. It is done differently theses days and the specialist sees exactly where the injection is going by a visual moniter. your nerve wont be touched. it brings down the inflamation and helps healing. but it does not always work. nothing always works.
Steriods are not good for your body so they will probably limit you to 3 injections per year or per a certain amount of months depending upon your age.

I would not go to a chiro in your condition.
what exactly did the dr say your pain is caused by? Usually after having an MRI they can tell.
 Asus999
Joined: 7/22/2012
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:30:05 AM

You need a lumbar MRI before any decision on injections or surgery (absolute last resort).


Have you read any of the thread, before chiming in and screaming out the law and making a prat of yourself with all your assumptions? Please do not participate any further in this thread, if you can't be bothered to read what has been discussed.


what exactly did the dr say your pain is caused by? Usually after having an MRI they can tell.


Yes, after the MRI they determined issues with L1->L5. One of my vertebrae is fractured and will need surgery further down the road to stabilize it, should it continue to be bothersome. But I want to avoid any surgery at all costs if possible.
 Asus999
Joined: 7/22/2012
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:00:48 AM

I would suggest that if you are trying to avoid surgery, to at least give the epidural a try.


Thank you, I'm just waiting for the doctor to get back to me, with regards to appointment times etc. Touch wood, hopefully either this week or next. I've been watching the procedure on YouTube and I think I need to stop. Those needles look mighty long :o( Got to think about the benefits of the procedure.
 zenpeacelove
Joined: 9/16/2011
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:11:28 AM
I have had them done and I personally did not gain any relief from them. They also have nerve block injections that basically use close to the same technique, but they try to bathe the irritated nerve roots with numbing meds instead of steroids. I did have very brief success with that, but only while I was almost completely numb, lol.
I would say since steroids come with rather nasty side effects which you get to read and sign off on if you decide in favor of this procedure, I would try other non invasive things first...If you have a fracture then even stuff like a Chiropractor will probably have to wait. Don't feel like you are a bad person if you try some medications, just be aware that even OTC stuff comes with side effects.
Just know that it may be a long road and be prepared. Gather lots of information and do what you think is best for yourself. Best of luck on your journey and I wish you a good recovery.
 Asus999
Joined: 7/22/2012
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:10:36 PM

Best of luck on your journey and I wish you a good recovery.


Thank you, very much appreciated :o)


You will be fine, just try not to look at the needles.


LOL, thank you :o) I have the pre-epidural assessment appointment for next Monday. Shall see how it goes.
 melodyof_k
Joined: 5/2/2012
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:21:03 PM
oh I agree....
it didnt hurt at all...
do not look at the needles.
you wont feel a thing...
tell them, as I did, that you are a bit nervous about the needle and you want to make sure they give you enough meds to relax you or make you sleep.
 Deadliest_Snatch
Joined: 10/25/2012
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Posted: 2/26/2013 6:56:55 PM
Have you read any of the thread, before chiming in and screaming out the law and making a prat of yourself with all your assumptions? Please do not participate any further in this thread, if you can't be bothered to read what has been discussed.


News Flash: Posters are NOT required to read every response in a thread. They ARE required to stay on-topic to the Opening Post (OP), therefore, one would assume respondents read the OP (sometimes they only read the thread title).

It's not the fault of the poster if the Original Poster/ Author of the thread fails to gather his/ her thoughts and include the pertinent information in the Opening Post. The forums are littered with half-assed threads to which the author adds info later.

No matter how precious the thread may be, it is not "owned" by the Original Poster and not subject to filtering as to who may or may not respond or in which manner they may do so. Name calling is also not good form when someone is responding, whether you like their perspective or not!

Next time, maybe you should not be bothered to start a thread if you can't make a cogent Opening Post with the pertinent facts included.

I still find it hilarious that your lawyer was the first one from whom you sought medical advice.
Seeing a chiropractor when you have a broken vertebrae may make you a party in contributory negligence to damage inflicted AFTER your car accident.
 aussieblues
Joined: 11/22/2011
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:12:09 PM
In a motorbike stack I broke my spine..Had a spinal fusion at L4,L5,S1 after trying the epidurals which had no effect for me.My surgery was a complete success. I have some residual nerve damage which causes pain if I wear heels, climb stairs or hills. But as a woman who has one arm longer than the other it beats the hell out of turning circles in a wheelchair.
The core muscle strengthening exercises are really very important. Your body will strengthen and protect the region which gives you pain. The rest of your body will adjust in sympatico.
Good luck with it.
 Romeolovesya
Joined: 2/16/2013
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Posted: 3/11/2013 10:48:27 PM
my surgery was a nil....it was done in 2001. Best thing for me excercise. lunges situps leg lifts cat stretches. and what ever any back and stomach excercised you can find... staying mobile....my pain has never
lleft the day it happened. the sooner you can strengthen your back up the sooner you can get off of meds other wise it will waste ten years of your. life like i lost after finally accepting the fact that tin will always be thete...i have my rough days...but it feels good to be free from drugs
 1bellanella
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Posted: 3/13/2013 9:19:38 AM
My advice... Listen to your doctor regarding health matters, not your lawyer.
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