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 justnancy
Joined: 7/22/2008
Msg: 501
who is the number 1 sporting legend?Page 19 of 22    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22)

Ignoring everything else - I don't think any of the choices are good ones

Hmmmm...halftimedad, does this mean you read ALL 21 posts of this thread and didn't think any of the choices were good ones?
Just asking because I'm not sure what you meant by this statement.


When Gretzky was getting 200+ points a season the closest guy was getting a 100...

Nobody on the planet had dominated his or her sport like Gretzky has done with Professional NHL Hockey....

If you don't believe me, Google his career stats and then the career stats of someone you think dominated their sport to the same degree.....there is no one even close!!

It sounds like she dominated her sport in the NHL, however I don't think you can she dominated MORE than ANYONE ever in their OWN SPORT. I think every sport as it legendary figures.

"Lawrence Taylor, nicknamed L.T., a retired Hall of Fame American football player. Taylor played his entire professional career as a linebacker for the New York Giants in the NFL. He is considered to be one of the greatest players in the history of football, and has been called the greatest defensive player of all time by members of the media, former players, and coaches"

"By the time Taylor retired, he had amassed 1,088 tackles, 132.5 sacks (not counting the 9.5 sacks he recorded as a rookie because sacks did not become an official statistic until 1982), 9 interceptions, 134 return yards, 2 touchdowns, 33 forced fumbles, 11 fumble recoveries, and 34 fumble return yards."

For him to get 9-15 sacks in year was normal. In 1985 he had 18, his all time season record was in 1986 with 20.5 sacks.
Just to give you an idea, the top leader in sacks for the 2009 season goes to, Ray Edwards of the Vikings with a total of 4.0 sacks.

But wait there's more, he not only had impressive stats and considered to be one of the most feared players in the NFL, but he also CHANGED the way football is played.

John Madden wrote this of him:
"Lawrence Taylor, defensively, has had as big an impact as any player I've ever seen. He changed the way defense is played, the way pass-rushing is played, the way linebackers play and the way offenses block linebackers."

Let me give you a few examples of WHY Madden would say this:
" Taylor's explosive speed and power is credited with having changed the position of outside linebacker from a "read and react" type of position to a more attacking, aggressive position."
"Redskins coach Joe Gibbs developed the two tight end offense and the position of h-back to prevent Taylor from blitzing into the backfield. ... As Gibbs stated, "we had to try in some way have a special game plan just for Lawrence Taylor. Now you didn't do that very often in this league but I think he's one person that we learned the lesson the hard way". ... His skills at outside linebacker forced other coaches to retool their offensive schemes to manage his impact. In the late '70s and early '80s, a blitzing linebacker was almost always picked up by a running back. However, these players were usually no match for LT...
Bill Walsh in the 1982 playoffs, employed an offensive guard to block Taylor, other teams began to be copy around the league. This move, however, left a hole in the offensive protection that a middle linebacker could exploit.
Later, Walsh and other coaches began using offensive left tackles to block Taylor. Although Taylor made adjustments to his game to remain dominant, it soon became common in the NFL for offensive linemen to pick up blitzing linebackers, such as Taylor. In addition to the changes in offensive schemes Taylor influenced, he also introduced new defensive techniques to the game such as chopping the ball out of the quarterback's hands rather than tackling him."

Now that is what I would call "impacting the way a game is played".
 ticatsleafsjaysfan
Joined: 9/9/2007
Msg: 503
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who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/2/2010 3:35:40 PM
NFL isn't a sport, it's a League and if you have to ask that, then your opinion is either uninformed or biased.
 justnancy
Joined: 7/22/2008
Msg: 505
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/2/2010 4:28:45 PM

NFL isn't a sport, it's a League and if you have to ask that, then your opinion is either uninformed or biased.

TRUE.
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 507
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 12:24:09 PM
Duke Kahanomoku is considered the father of modern day surfing. He was the official international greeter of an entire kingdom. Saved several people's lives in the ocean. Won gold in the olympics (100 meter freestyle). Skipped the next one due to world war. Won gold in the next olympics and silver in the next (16 year span) losing only at a ripe age to Johnny Weissmuller. 5 medals in all. Was regarded as the epitome of humility, hospitality and aloha.
And he was the sheriff too.



Msg.504
No one's ever hit .400 in a mlb (lifetime). Ty Cobb holds the record at .366.
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 508
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 12:54:56 PM
ill leave out NFL well because its the ghey.
more like commercial man chess.

Cheers.
F.P.


Okay Frankster P, "American" football is not a sport. It doesn't involve running, jumping, hitting, no physicality at all, what constitutes a sport in your eyes, Frank P? I mean since American football does not exert any energy at all.
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 510
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 2:31:04 PM
umping, hitting, physicalllity for how long?
2 minutes a game? in how short burts? how long a game?
how many time outs? commercial breaks?
its a plastic game.


okay we got that, so what's the "real" sport for you then? I mean you obviously would excel at "yank" football, so what's the real man's game you haven't spoke of yet?
 justnancy
Joined: 7/22/2008
Msg: 511
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 2:33:21 PM

Okay Frankster P, "American" football is not a sport. It doesn't involve running, jumping, hitting, no physicality at all, what constitutes a sport in your eyes, Frank P? I mean since American football does not exert any energy at all.


Colt I think Franster P is just being rude about football because some of us stated we didn't think car racers were considered to be a sport figure since it doesn't require much physical athleticism. Rather than argue WHY he believes car racers are considered sports figures, he prefers to insult football as a sport. Obviously he hasn't grown up yet.
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 512
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 2:46:47 PM
Colt I think Franster P is just being rude about football because some of us stated we didn't think car racers were considered to be a sport figure since it doesn't require much physical athleticism. Rather than argue WHY he believes car racers are considered sports figures, he prefers to insult football as a sport. Obviously he hasn't grown up yet.



I know. nance, so race car driving is more physical than humans hitting each other? Is that what he's saying? Don't get me wrong you can get f*&ked up in a car, but to me driving a car requires less athleticism than actually getting out on a field running around, I'm not discounting race car driving but machines are involved in that sport,
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 513
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 3:19:16 PM
I know. nance, so race car driving is more physical than humans hitting each other? Is that what he's saying? Don't get me wrong you can get f*&ked up in a car, but to me driving a car requires less athleticism than actually getting out on a field running around, I'm not discounting race car driving but machines are involved in that sport,

Racing in a car on a track is a very violent activity, there is no person to person contact but the ride in the seat is not a soft cushy one. Racing a road coarse is a full on thrash fest and after 10-15 laps most people have had enough.

Until you have spent time in a race car when it is being driven close to its limit you have no idea what it is like.


If you measure legends by the sacrifices, commitment and ability, then I would have to say it would be 26 time Isle of Man TT winner Joey Dunlop.

Think race cars are a crazy ride, try going as fast as you can on a bike around country roads and city streets, with nothing more than a couple of hay bails between you and light pole or a stone wall.

Where just one lap is going to take you 17+ minutes.
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 514
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 3:33:10 PM
Racing in a car on a track is a very violent activity, there is no person to person contact but the ride in the seat is not a soft cushy one. Racing a road coarse is a full on thrash fest and after 10-15 laps most people have had enough.



I said you can get messed up in cars, as far as bike racing i think that's more physical than race car driving, theirs a more human element to that sport, Like I said I'm not "discounting" racecar driving but at the same time I am going to stick to my word there is not much athleticism when all you have to do is put the peddle to the metal(there is a strategy to win a car race).
 justnancy
Joined: 7/22/2008
Msg: 515
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/3/2010 4:22:50 PM
Ditto. ^^^ what Colt said.
 colt8301
Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 517
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/4/2010 5:15:57 PM
Formula drivers train for hours a day, the top ones
Have to, to cope with the stress on the body, the G forces.
Must be the cultural differences.

AFL and the real football are mans games.


okay cultural differences, you just hate American football and you think we are soft, just say it.
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 519
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/16/2010 1:45:14 PM

I said you can get messed up in cars, as far as bike racing i think that's more physical than race car driving,

If you would have seen Will Powers hands after the Brazilian IRL race this weekend it may have changed your mind about how physical race car drivers have it.

That dudes hands where messed up.

Blisters and open wounds.
 Pris Lima
Joined: 3/14/2010
Msg: 520
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/20/2010 2:04:29 PM
Valentino Rossi
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 521
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/20/2010 4:34:19 PM

Valentino Rossi

That guy was born a racer.

Very few can and have dominated like the Dr. and on multiple manufactures as well.

Great profile of Rossi and Biaggi in the documentary Faster along with some great incites in to Moto GP and how they transitioned from the two stroke to the four. Also cool to see the difference in their heart rates. It was like Rossi was out for a Sunday drive and still kickin azz.

Faster will give anyone a new appreciation for how crazy a Moto GP pilot must be.
 guyinacorner
Joined: 8/20/2008
Msg: 522
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/24/2010 2:36:01 PM
ALI
what can I say wether in the ring or mouthing off the establishment he was the standard for all athletes.

randy couture gets number 2 for longevity
 AZ Yankee
Joined: 3/16/2010
Msg: 523
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/27/2010 7:22:22 PM
Greatest 'scorer'...not greatest player...if you had 5 Mark Messiers play against 5 Wayne Gretzkys the Messiers would win 100 to 0.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 524
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 3/28/2010 7:45:32 PM
Sorry, but 5 Messiers would mean 5 guys who wouldn't pass and wouldn't go back to play defence. They'd all be hanging around the blue line while the 5 Gretzky's racked up 50 goals a period.

We had him here for 3 years. The most selfish player to ever put on a Canucks uniform.
 Tah,
Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 525
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 4/12/2010 6:52:00 PM
I've grown somewhat as i now feel that there can be no number 1 sporting legend as sport is not about winning or being the best, it's about trying your best and enjoying yourself, about growing, about friendships and achievments, about working with and helping others
Being no 1 detracts from that, takes the sport out of sportmanship!
 funnestguyme
Joined: 3/3/2010
Msg: 527
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 4/19/2010 10:03:14 PM
Ty Cobb's lifetime average was .367 not .400.
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 530
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 12/5/2011 8:49:17 AM
Kelly Slater.
11 world championships.
 travelingmkey
Joined: 4/27/2008
Msg: 532
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who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 12/22/2011 7:56:46 PM
Ali then Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Babe Ruth and Vince Lombardi.
 bamagrl68
Joined: 11/14/2010
Msg: 533
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 1/2/2012 3:22:52 PM
pappy9(d113867)- I would say Babe Didrikson. No other athlete I know of excelled more than she did, in as many sports. She was great at every thing she tried.
 BrookfieldGentlemanTom
Joined: 12/17/2011
Msg: 535
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 1/8/2012 1:04:53 PM
most people know it.

our favorite sport is football.

best running back of all time?


BIG JIM BROWN FROM THE CLEVELAND BROWNS.


ESPN agrees and named it him that.
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
Msg: 537
who is the number 1 sporting legend?
Posted: 1/9/2012 6:17:20 PM
^^^
What about the phantom punch?
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