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 thx1104
Joined: 4/28/2010
Msg: 581
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well .... I see a lot of outrage about this ..... and people in dismay trying to figure out the owner's motivation. Some say that it's about the site putting it's best foot forward and creating more appeal to younger women. Good theory, but people are missing the bigger picture. Zoosk also does this and more than likely this will spread to other sites. Markus has not done this without first consulting other website owners -- that's a fair bet. This is about social engineering on a huge scale. They have decided that younger men should not have to compete with older men who are wealthier for the attentions of young women. If it was just about marketing, then they could emphasize or mandate that people choose customized individual age restrictions when they sign up. This is about big companies deciding and imposing rules they feel are best for society. What the customers want is just not important. And they (Markus and others) have collectively decided that we have no choice but to accept their dictates. This really is a part of bigger picture of a bleak trend. The government and large companies want more control over our lives.
 ladyc4
Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 582
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Posted: 6/9/2013 10:02:56 AM
thx1104
While I appreciate the thought and possibly research that went into your post, I have to say that calling it some sort of massive "social engineering" conspiracy among internet dating sites is giving the issue way too much credit.
I would guess that a large part of these "controls" are simply to keep more women from 18-30 from leaving in frustration and disgust.
Hell, I'm damn near 60 and I get messages from men nearly 20 years my senior, (yes, recently!)-and while not recently, it will be interesting to see if I still get messages from young gentlemen from 18-25.
Social engineering- no, I don't think so. Finacial/business? Much more likely.
Cindy O
 AB_SEP
Joined: 9/30/2012
Msg: 583
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Posted: 6/9/2013 10:30:53 AM

That seems sorta unfair admin to make a rule nobody asked for, especially making a decisions for people that they did not make.


And in a final little insult, when a person outside this age range attempts to contact you, they receive a message saying "This person is not accepting messages from your age or gender", when in reality "this person" wasn't given a choice in the matter. For all some idealistic new signup knows, every single person he or she is interested in isn't looking for somebody in their age range. At least have the decency to say "this person has expressed no interest in restricting people of your age group. We have. Go somewhere else."
 Debyduz_
Joined: 5/4/2012
Msg: 584
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/9/2013 12:16:38 PM
I wish I could thumbs up your post AB_SEP
 Lookinghere2011
Joined: 1/7/2011
Msg: 585
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/9/2013 2:53:57 PM
Yeah it's set at -14 years of age it seems. Seems ridiculous that a 50 yr old man and 30 year old woman can't be able to contact each other if they want to and date. Especially in this day and age when women seem to have fulfilled their child bearing goals much earlier which realistically puts them in the same stage somewhat with the older man in that respect. They don't want to date (slower to mature for the most part) males still going out to parties and doing drugs all the time with a couple of children in the picture. I know married couples that are male in 4o's and female in 20's that are doing great as they found themselves to be in the same stage want and needs wise. We're all adults 19-99 and can make our own decisions who we want to contact, who we want to block etc and the features for this were in place already. A 19 year old can date a 99 yr old if they want and if they're ok with it who cares, it's legal whether or not others agree with it personally. I've been contacted by men on here looking for other men which I personally do not agree with as a lifestyle choice but I respect their right to do so. Maybe I should complain so that the ability to contact those of same sex could be banned but I bet that wouldn't happen lol.
 thx1104
Joined: 4/28/2010
Msg: 586
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/9/2013 5:47:54 PM
I think it's just wishful thinking to place this in terms of the owner being a greedy callous jerk. Unfortunately, there is something bigger than that going on. This cannot be strictly a financial decision, because the risks are too great of people being dissatisfied and going to a different website. They could have made everyone happy by just allowing each person to choose their own custom age message filters. The fact the he made this big decision implies that there will soon be nowhere else to go to avoid this kind of control and that he did indeed consult with other dating sites / companies before making this uncompetitive decision.

Hopefully, people will leave the site en masse. That is the only thing that tyrants understand -- money and power.
 princeunderconstruction
Joined: 12/7/2009
Msg: 589
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/10/2013 1:59:13 PM
You are right..And yes it is his site.And to be honest one of the better sites.But its pretty sad that a few people always ruin it for others.While nobody deserves being disrespected online.Both female and male..I think a better way would have been to let people choose the ages they want to talk with..If you are not grown up enough to handle what goes online.Both good and bad.You should not be online.Because just like in real life things go wrong and people need to deal with it. I have had a few emails from Women that others might find pretty bad.But I put on my big boy pants and dealt with it. Because the good of this site more then makes up for the bad. Making users pick the age they will talk with at sign up would have been a better way. Not trying to tell grown people what ages they belong with...And to be honest..I don't think I ever sent the first email to a way younger girl ever.But I sure have talked to a few that emailed me. Its only respectful to reply at least once. People seem to think because its online its a freedom to not be honest or real.Or even rude.Well its not...Treat people online as you would in person..Thats being real.
 Crimson_Selcouth
Joined: 4/30/2013
Msg: 590
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/10/2013 4:03:42 PM
Obviously I have not read all the pages of posting here. I will say that I to am very disappointed in the new age restrictions. Although I have no desire to date anyone younger than me (more than by a handful of years anyway), I have had some wonderful relationships with men older than me. I enjoy the stability that older men have as well as the ability to understand what is truly important in life. Most importantly, they are not intimidated when they meet a very independent woman that knows who she is and what she wants. I am not saying that all older men are this way, but the ones that I have had the pleasure of dating have been. Yet, now, I am restricted from having conversations with men that I share common interest with. In all reality, a 36 year old dating a 51 year old is not much of an age gap based on life experiences. I am disappointed and will most likely search for a site that does not restrict conversations.

As for guys that are disrespectful via messages, I have gotten those across the board. I utilize the "block" feature and the "delete" option. Works great! ;-)
 cynful46
Joined: 2/5/2011
Msg: 591
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Posted: 6/10/2013 5:42:58 PM
THIS IS NUTS !!!!!

Im 48 and I can't have a conversation with a guy I've known for years......he's 33.

What the heck is going on ?????

IF the young women dont want to be bothered by older men, THEN SET THEIR AGE LIMITS.

My word....... dont penalize US because the youngin dont know how to set up their restrictions !!!!!
 travlinman572
Joined: 10/28/2008
Msg: 592
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Posted: 6/10/2013 6:31:06 PM
Good post above. @Ladyc4, You mention getting messages from Guys 18 to about 70. Is that what Your looking for? What are Your restrictions set at? I looked, none!
 1in10000000
Joined: 5/10/2013
Msg: 593
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/10/2013 7:41:34 PM
This age restriction was just a horrible idea. It's enough to make me go somewhere else. I don't care how old my next GF is, I only care that my chances of find her just got a little lower.
 ArmyGuyDan
Joined: 5/27/2013
Msg: 594
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Posted: 6/11/2013 4:28:21 AM
I don't think I will be using this site anymore, it's a joke, the owner is a joke and soo on
 justagrlwithacat
Joined: 2/7/2011
Msg: 597
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Posted: 6/11/2013 1:52:52 PM
well I like the change. and I also like CKNW (new talk radio station here) and I see in the line up Markus will be on by phone for a discussion in 15 mins. cool.
 Film Alchemist
Joined: 9/12/2009
Msg: 598
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Posted: 6/11/2013 5:19:34 PM
If this is all about catering to female perceptions, why is there a link called "Hottest Girls That Reply!" (which you have to pay for)!
 LaidBackInPG
Joined: 2/4/2013
Msg: 599
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/11/2013 11:44:22 PM
A lot of the complaints seem to be about losing "friends", when this is a dating site, not a site to make friends.


Oh really?? Then why are there options on everyone's profile to say you're looking for friends? Why have people using that option not been banned and deleted like those just looking for an intimate encounter?

Not trying to be rude here. Just an honest question. If this site is supposed to be ONLY for dating and relationships, when will Markus get rid of the "Friends" and "Hang Out" options in the "I am looking for" pulldown menu?

It is clear to me that there is a moral attitude against sex from the top of POF.
 gentleman333
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 601
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Posted: 6/14/2013 8:48:06 PM
After all this talk, does anyone still think that the primary purpose of pof is to help you find a date? POF is a website that brings in site traffic and generates ad click-thrus, and ad revenue. To do so, it provides a free dating service.

And what an amazing service it is! For free, millions of men can swarm over the site, contacting so many alluring and available women - just a free, canned message away!! And clicking on ads that promise an immediate response!!!

But what if a precious, few, revenue-generating assets that bring in a lot of those male visitors (young, attractive females with photos), were becoming annoyed at churning through hundreds of pointless, hopeless old-guy messages, profiles without photos, profiles with idiotic photos and worthless information, profiles with private porno photos, endless demands for instant chats, and whatever other crap men want to push at them (IE and hangouts)?

What if the numbers of these women were decreasing or looking less and less satisfied with pof?

What would they need to do, to protect their revenue, and ultimately the quality of the free dating service?

Of course, in a fair and just world, the women and pof would understand that men like YOU and I are the wonderful exceptions.
 SirTampa
Joined: 5/10/2008
Msg: 603
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Posted: 6/15/2013 10:09:12 AM
canceling my subscription.
 AB_SEP
Joined: 9/30/2012
Msg: 604
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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:25:46 PM

There have actually been some very good relationships with a larger age gap of 14 years


One of the organizations which seems to believe this, oddly enough, is POF, which still gives me some pretty highly ranked chemistry matches, regular matches, and the ol' ultramatches on either end of the 14-yr age limit. So with this new solid locked down exclusion of 14+ year age gaps because (supposedly) nobody wants to date in that range is that a tacit admission that the much-ballyhooed matching software being used is out-to-lunch?

Whoops!
 Wineshire
Joined: 1/3/2012
Msg: 605
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Posted: 6/17/2013 10:32:32 PM
This new rule sucks. Just making people move on to other sites.
I hope the owners of this site wake up I guess it time for me too go check out other sites
 kitsunedawn
Joined: 8/20/2011
Msg: 606
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Posted: 6/19/2013 1:03:35 PM
I'm really to the point that I'm considering just saying screw it and deleting my profile. That random 14 year thing is just bull. Take my parents for example. My mother was twenty years older than my dad. What about grandparents? Twenty five years separated them, with my grandmother being the elder.

On one hand I can see Markus being faced with an issue. People seem to be coming here for "sex." So he passes down a heavy handed, ill conceived solution to that. Yet, it doesn't solve the problem at all, and if anything makes potential customers angry and less likely to stay around. What's more, it leaves the CORE cause of the problem untouched.

That core cause? The fact that POF has direct links to Adult Friend Finder. I was a member there (closed the profile some three years ago) and I can honestly say that people there use this place as a way to get around the required payment plan that the other site has. What's worse, POF actively encouraged people looking for sex to use AFF, suggesting complacency with the way people use POF in the first place.

Others have said it better than I. Don't force everyone into a "you have to search XYZ" age range thing. Instead make them set their own age ranges they want to search or receive messages from. I'm tired of staring at the same three women who I have NOTHING in common with, and no level of attraction to. It's gone from being "Plenty of Fish" to "Plenty of FRUSTRATION"
 JerseyGirl2008
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 607
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Posted: 6/20/2013 5:18:41 AM
Oh my.

What WILL the 20-something guys DO now that they can't send their pervy little messages to women 40 years old and above? LOL.
 WhoCaresZZZ
Joined: 6/14/2009
Msg: 609
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/24/2013 9:00:56 AM
Im a gerontophile, that means I'm ONLY attracted to guys over 50yo...

Its not my fault, I was born this way. I cant help it.



This site is useless for me, since. I can only contact 40yo and younger...


Could you please make the age filter an OPTION rather than a STUPID RULE????
 aanosaint2
Joined: 9/18/2009
Msg: 610
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/24/2013 8:46:58 PM

Im a gerontophile, that means I'm ONLY attracted to guys over 50yo...
Its not my fault, I was born this way. I cant help it.
This site is useless for me, since. I can only contact 40yo and younger...
Could you please make the age filter an OPTION rather than a STUPID RULE????


We are all adults here. We should have the options to restrict. I have a friend who I was getting to know who is 40. Just below the age limit.
 BuckeyedFella
Joined: 3/21/2011
Msg: 611
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/24/2013 9:59:20 PM
It's age discrimination, plain and simple.

If someone doesn't want to be contacted be someone older, they can set it that way in their account.
 Nothotenough4u
Joined: 6/17/2013
Msg: 612
New Age Restrictions Set By Admin: Message Restrictions
Posted: 6/26/2013 8:17:48 PM

What WILL the 20-something guys DO now that they can't send their pervy little messages to women 40 years old and above? LOL.


What wil lthe 45yr old cougars DO now that they can't message their "stud" 25 yr olds? :)
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