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 no_1_bby
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Until you encounter real problems like that, why not just take sex for the way it more less has been and quit trying to customize it to be just right for you?

Because if it isn't customized to be just right for me, it's not enjoyable FOR me. Really? What a strange question.

I've had partners with PE, anorgasma, phimosis, and low sex drive issues... and I've managed to customize things to accommodate their needs and mine, so that it's fun and pleasurable for everyone involved.

Oh and for the record..

What would woman think if the man got hard put it in and did nothing after that?

I prefer to get him hard, put him in and tell him to stay still.. it's a common occurrence with my partners. Why? Because I like it that way. So do they. Is it that way all the time? Nope. They like me to have my way with them though. I like to have my way with them. I also like them to have their way with me.
 salty_blumist
Joined: 11/26/2012
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Posted: 11/5/2013 11:43:02 AM
Good for you then no_1_bby. My hats off to you for taking initiative like you do. And it's so ironic your a red head lol, as I have yet to find a red head who isn't lots of fun in bed!!! But, this woman I'm talking about was speaking to Sue Johanson one night many years ago on the Sunday night sex show. Her man didn't seem to know what thrusting was after penetration. I would have thought that would come somewhat instinctual. However, me encountering woman who actually aren't afraid to take control is somewhat of a rarity. It seems most woman always expect the man to be in control most of the time. But during sex, it's us men who do most of the moving as far as thrusting goes. We can and usually do thrust in most positions unless the woman allows us to take a break from it and does some of her own. That's lots of effort and physical exertion were making to do that. I'm not complaining about doing it, I love doing it! I'm just stating the way I've come to know sex as. But after all the effort we make this way, still some woman it sounds still aren't satisfied (proof, this post). It just seems some people are never satisfied and feel the need to debate anything even if it could be a case of something that some more appreciative types would consider well enough. The nerve of some people to be so demanding.
 Archiver
Joined: 3/10/2013
Msg: 28
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Posted: 11/5/2013 12:36:53 PM

salty_blumist: We can and usually do thrust in most positions unless the woman allows us to take a break from it and does some of her own. That's lots of effort and physical exertion were making to do that. I'm not complaining about doing it, I love doing it! I'm just stating the way I've come to know sex as. But after all the effort we make this way, still some woman it sounds still aren't satisfied (proof, this post). It just seems some people are never satisfied and feel the need to debate anything even if it could be a case of something that some more appreciative types would consider well enough. The nerve of some people to be so demanding.


Duh! Maybe you could learn a new way? Jack-hammer thrusting is not what it is all about. That is the point of this entire thread. Sex is not really instinctual. It is a learned art.
 no_1_bby
Joined: 5/3/2006
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Posted: 11/5/2013 12:55:39 PM

Good for you then no_1_bby. My hats off to you for taking initiative like you do.

Read the forums. There are lots of women like me here.


However, me encountering woman who actually aren't afraid to take control is somewhat of a rarity. It seems most woman always expect the man to be in control most of the time.

I prefer submissive bi men as partners. I do take control a lot of the time. I also like them to take control some of the time. They know what I want, when I want it.


But during sex, it's us men who do most of the moving as far as thrusting goes. We can and usually do thrust in most positions unless the woman allows us to take a break from it and does some of her own.

The only position I'm relatively still in is missionary. Please note I said "relatively still". I give as good if not better than I get. The current guy is fairly athletic.. plays ball, umpires, plays hockey, referees, etc. Oh.. and he's 19 years younger. We usually both end up drenched with sweat after sex. He hasn't quite learned the hip-smashing thrust my ex had, and I don't expect him to since he's not the ex. He has some pretty amazing moves of his own.


That's lots of effort and physical exertion were making to do that. I'm not complaining about doing it, I love doing it! I'm just stating the way I've come to know sex as.

Sounds like a complaint to me. *grins*


But after all the effort we make this way, still some woman it sounds still aren't satisfied (proof, this post).

You can make 100% of the effort 100% of the time... if it's not something I want or enjoy, no.. I won't be satisfied. You want to satisfy a woman..? Talk to her and find out what she likes, what she needs, what she wants. Then do that.

Don't f*ck her like a porn star, unless she asks for it.

Don't f*ck her like you f*cked your ex. No.. seriously. Just don't do it. And for the love of all things fun and sexy.. don't compare her to your ex. Not if you want to be invited back for another go-round.

I wasn't always bold enough to speak up. I had a lot of bad sex in my 20s. Wasn't until my mid to late 30s until now that I found my voice, found what works for me, and started to speak up about what I need. Apparently I'm really vocal about it
 aanarchist
Joined: 8/23/2013
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Posted: 11/9/2013 1:13:43 AM
i heard a profound radio podcast or whatever it was called once explaining how society destroys the heart of men from early age. being told that men are not allowed to feel like a woman, that they aren't allowed to cry, that their emotions are unimportant and should be kept to themselves, only being aknowledged when they were causing trouble. many buy into it and become the walking bricks that many men are today, and then the very women who consistently discouraged those men from being emotional in any way are now complaining that they are cold, bottled up and emotionally unavailable. if you want your man to be able to "make love" to you, then you have to help him understand that it's ok to feel, or teach him how to feel, it's usually a lost cause because those things were ingrained in a man from since he was a toddler. i still remember my father yelling at me for crying when i was like 6 years old, and my every thought and feeling diminished by my school teachers and peers. lucky for me i'm an empath and retained my ability to feel emotion, no matter how much i disliked it and saw it as a weakness. today i rejoice in my ability to feel, for many do not have such a luxury. oh also i guess i can get why watching too much porn can make a guy stupid at sex, i figure a healthy dose of really sappy romance flicks might help balance him out, i'm being completely serious.

philosophy aside, communication derpderpderpderp. you have to be an idiot to be in a relationship and lack basic communication skills. ask each other what you enjoy and what you're willing and unwilling to try.
 Theme_Pack
Joined: 5/3/2013
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Posted: 11/9/2013 4:05:34 AM
She's just upset because the new vagina for the young fellas is anal. I use these words of wisdom "loosely" .
 OutMind
Joined: 2/13/2007
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Posted: 11/11/2013 12:57:23 PM

This thread validates my personal belief that older men are much better at this sort of thing. Young men have little command of there emotions, that comes with age, little experience, and no life history. All these make you a better lover. They will likely learn with time, and if older women want to educate them, by all means knock yourself out. I would rather be the one who is getting the education, thus I always choose older men.


Best statement so far.

There's a saying in Spanish "Más sabe el diablo por viejo, que por diablo."

Which means, more knows the devil because he's old, than because he's the devil.

Experience is a beautiful thing. When I first started to have sex, I was clueless, and with each experience came more knowledge. And to this day the one thing that holds true to having long lasting sex is to always please your woman. She is pleased, whether one night is fvcking her brains out, or next a slow tantric evening of massage oils and slow penetration, with in between pauses and a multitude of orgasms, everything is possible as long as she is satisfied.
 DoubleParked
Joined: 10/22/2008
Msg: 33
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Posted: 11/11/2013 2:37:05 PM
I read an article this week by a woman my age who has emerged to say that she is discouraged with her younger lovers who seem to make love like porn stars. She says the effects of porn culture on real life relationships is disheartening.


I'm wondering if the 'effects of porn culture' is that the participants, who are now in an IRL sexual situation, find themselves detached from the IRL partner, are 'seeing' themselves and their partner as if a camera were recording them and so are trying to find the best angles and expressions of lust and longing and ecstatic release. They feel the need to give the appearance of having great sex, rather than concentrating on actually having an exciting sexual experience with the IRL partner.

Fine if you're actually IN a porn film, but it has nothing to do with real live sex and nothing to do with making love.
 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
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Posted: 11/11/2013 3:29:39 PM
There is a lot to be said for the enthusiasm of youth and the sense of exploring the unknown.

Porn does take something away from sex. What you think is something special is just another video clip.
 no_1_bby
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Posted: 11/12/2013 8:03:58 AM


This thread validates my personal belief that older men are much better at this sort of thing. Young men have little command of there emotions, that comes with age, little experience, and no life history. All these make you a better lover. They will likely learn with time, and if older women want to educate them, by all means knock yourself out. I would rather be the one who is getting the education, thus I always choose older men.


Best statement so far.

There's a saying in Spanish "Más sabe el diablo por viejo, que por diablo."

Which means, more knows the devil because he's old, than because he's the devil.

Experience is a beautiful thing. When I first started to have sex, I was clueless, and with each experience came more knowledge. And to this day the one thing that holds true to having long lasting sex is to always please your woman. She is pleased, whether one night is fvcking her brains out, or next a slow tantric evening of massage oils and slow penetration, with in between pauses and a multitude of orgasms, everything is possible as long as she is satisfied.

I happen to disagree with you that age=experience therefore a better lover. Yes.. experience does make you a better partner/lover. Age does not mean experience.

I married a man who was a virgin when we met. He was 23 turning 24. For a virgin his skill set was extensive, to the point I doubted him actually being a virgin.

My last partner was about that same age when we met, 24. He has done things to/with me that no man my age or older has ever done.

What makes a good lover? Unselfishness, willingness to learn and explore, openness, enthusiasm, excitement, respect, etc. Those can be found in someone of any age and are not the sole provenance of the more mature.

Most of my partners who have been my age or slightly older have been lacking in so many of those areas, to the point that I do not wish to pursue them anymore. I'm not excited about that idea at all. Most have compared me openly to their previous partners, usually to complain that I don't do what their ex did or was capable of. Most have no interest in exploring outside the basics of kiss a little, finger a little, maybe oral if I'm lucky, and missionary until they are satisfied. That doesn't work for me. Most of them have been incredibly selfish in the bedroom.

My current is a lot younger than I am... and while it's not as good as my previous (who has extraordinarily large shoes to fill), it is getting better and he is learning. He just doesn't have the same skill set or mind to run it as the other one does.
 Theme_Pack
Joined: 5/3/2013
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Posted: 11/12/2013 9:27:28 AM
Just because you are old and experienced doesn't mean you are good....Hence the Cougar theory...
 Proteaus
Joined: 6/9/2009
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Posted: 11/21/2013 2:56:15 AM
To Opp : They already re-educated the younger males in society , it starts in grade school . They take the masculinity out of being a male so what do they have left as role models . Especially since so many fathers are forcibly removed from their sons lives . You are beginning to see the results of a culture that looks at fathers as non essential in raising children , enjoy .
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/21/2013 4:50:53 AM
^^ Nice little rant....but what has it got to do with how a man phucks???
Did your father teach you?
Almost every man I know will say either a woman taught him....or he was astute enough to pay attention to women's like/dislikes and taught himself!! Not one man has ever said to me his Dad taught him how to be a good lover!!
 Tarnished_Knight
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Posted: 11/21/2013 9:50:34 PM
Ms. Micki:

True That!

Dear ol' dad ne'er made mention of any of that birds and bees stuff.
I think I had more father - son conversation concerning that topic with my son long before he ever left the roost.

TK
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 deerdog1
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Posted: 11/22/2013 6:48:08 AM
Ms Micki ..dear old dad never taught me a thing about the mechanics of sex ..but one thing that he did teach me that I remember to this day ...after he caught me and one of my girl friends messing around ..he said son always treat girls with respect .. the ones that will give themselves to you as well as the ones that wont give themselves to you all have their reasons ..If you choose to play around with a girl try to make sure she does not end up regretting it
 Proteaus
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Posted: 11/22/2013 6:54:00 AM
Pretty simple when the young man is home alone being raised by his single mother and she is at work , I give you one guess what he is probably looking at on his mothers computer . He probably learn from the internet , nothing like dealing with ignorant individuals .
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/22/2013 7:18:41 AM
Yeah cuz teenage boys with Dad's at home never look at porn on the internet!!!

Put your baggage in the closet and move on dude!
 grizzelda
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Posted: 11/22/2013 7:19:16 AM

Pretty simple when the young man is home alone being raised by his single mother and she is at work , I give you one guess what he is probably looking at on his mothers computer . He probably learn from the internet , nothing like dealing with ignorant individuals .


Are you really suggesting that this isn't the average behavior of most teenage boys regardless of their being in a single parent home or not? Your incredible bias against women is showing, you may want to adjust your skirt so it doesn't show as much...
 the_lone_wolf_66
Joined: 12/4/2013
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Posted: 12/8/2013 6:25:25 PM

women not forced to fake orgasms

Sorry, I was gone for a while... When did they establish that rule? What happens if she doesn't fake? And who is forcing?

Maybe the education should start right there. What logically happens when women fake it? The man obviously did not do the right thing for that particular woman, but the show she puts on gives him positive feedback. Is it more likely that he will do something totally different next time or that he will do close to the same thing? And if it's the latter, what are the odds that it works for her this time? You are not doing anybody - including yourself - a favor by lying.

I can't speak for the pornstar thing as I don't have a camera rolling nor another guy tag teaming when I have sex. I just do what I feel like.

One thing I can say though from my limited life experience is that everybody is different. What you consider romantic and loving may be another person's sedative. What you consider cold or disgusting may get another woman's juices flowing. It's not that hard to get a feel for how kinky a person is, long before you end up in bed.
 Archiver
Joined: 3/10/2013
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Posted: 12/9/2013 9:26:15 AM
Faking serves no one. It certainly doesn't help the faker, who will continue to be frustrated. Communication is key because as Lone_wolf said, "everybody is different". Talk to your partner! Show your partner what feels good and what it takes to get off!
 forumiteinca
Joined: 12/4/2013
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Posted: 12/9/2013 9:31:49 AM
Oh... the problems some people have. I wish this was one I had to deal with. My biggest problem is getting another person in to bed with me. Once I get that problem licked, I will move on to the issue of technique.

One step at a time....
 HUMHUMA
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Posted: 1/15/2019 3:43:05 AM
Porn is just that...a movie to watch and jerk off too....course that's my opinion....I have never wanted to act like one of the actors and have never been asked to be like them....BUT in saying that they get paid the bucks to do what they do...it's their business and those who use them as teaching films could be making mistakes....real life is what it is....it's up to a man to satisfy a woman and visa versa....on a human level and not like a movie....making a woman feel secure and appreciated sexually is a whole different thing....specially finding out what she likes....lol
 Inicia
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:36:06 PM
Can't say Making love like Porn Stars- its an Oxymoron. Discussing it needs a full blown education ion life and the subjective mutual reality of love- not the objectified aspect of inanimate sexual act..In absence of mutual subjective reality sex indeed becomes an object and the participants actors playing a role for whatever reward they individually seek..
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