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 SilverWings2017
Joined: 12/14/2016
Msg: 251
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As being disillusioned with relationships, I'm not disillusioned with relationships. I am disillusioned with online dating and all the creeps out there. It seems most of the good ones are already taken and we are left with the trash.

Example. A recent date I went on, the guy was hitting on the bartender and exchanging Facebook info when I went outside for a smoke. On the ride home, I made a comment that it was rude to hit on the bartender when you are on a date with someone else, and he argued, very loudly "But, I'm with you, aren't I?" and "I'm just trying to make new friends!" That was it for him.

If I hear she's just a friend one.. more... time... I will f'ing scream.
 Jackcrusto
Joined: 2/27/2017
Msg: 252
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 12:29:33 PM
forumslady and I seem to see some of the same things about some of you posters on these threads. I see a lot of people making excuses but it ain't for cheating it is to be judgemental. A dude goes with a bisexual woman you think he is worried anymore or less about her cheating than a straight woman? Yet a dude is bisexual and all bets are automatically off and you didn't catch him cheating but some bullsh!t like porn? You didn't say if I was correct or not but judging by your reaction I must of been on point. You kind of confirmed it round about because I think you know you are wrong for that.


So your focus is not that the man is a predator, but that you think she's in his business?


If they ain't married no more how does she know what he is doing? I got an ex wife and I don't have the first clue about what she is doing. You could tell me she went to a male strip club and right now is s^cking 3 d!cks at once and I couldn't tell you if that was true or not. So yeah not only when she thinks she knows exactly what he is up to and you do as well I think you're both in his business. Why is she in his business? What is what he is doing going to do for her? That help her grow as a person? That going to make her a better partner to the next man?


She is not the only one that knows his business. EVERYONE knows, because it's been in the news for it!


Oh horse sh!t you guys are buying your own bullsh!t. I just looked at the new york news and I see nothing but pedofiles and dudes who chased a women for 15 years or some sh!t. Either way they ain't together so what difference does it make to her? She can call cps and let them handle their sh!t and not worry about it yet she doesn't do that does she? Why is that? She knows she is responsible for something in that relationship and feeling guilty about it.


I've seen him with his son, so my info is first hand, plus I've seen his texts to him.


Great then the mom and son should be able to call cps and get his rights restricted sense he is such an abusive father. Hey even you could call them but you haven't brought up a case or nothing like that have you yet I'm sure all of a sudden you will now.


The husband that's bi, he put that out there for all to see, it wasn't done by my gf who has every right to discuss her life with her ex with whoever she wants to. Men with secrets would love the women in their life to feel embarrassed by them and not say anything.


Right so you aren't forthright about the stories and only reveal these so called evil men that YOU and ALL your friends happened to get with as we discuss it and I debunk your reasoning as we go along. So you can magically increase the evil until I say yes you're right, you ALL managed to get with evil men. Bird of a feather I guess. Yet I hate women. Hmmm thou dost projectith thyself a lot.

Ahahahaaha some of you f^ckers are crazy on here. The bottomline is this and you don't have a choice but to take some responsibility somewhere for any failed relationship. A. You either got with someone that fooled you, your family and your friends for years before finally revealing their evil selves at what they deemed as the perfect moment. You have resolved yourself to these types of people existing and laying in wait for someone to take the bait. This allows you to live in a world where all men or all women are just evil and out to get you. Paranoid much?

B. Or you can go with they had a bunch of warning signs and you simply ignored them for years and one day woke up and were shocked that the person you married is still the person you married. You married them so it's on you %100.

C. Or you got together and things changed inside the relationship as it progressed and it is both peoples fault.

So which is it for you and your "friends"? A, B, C or a combination of B and C?

ahhahahahaha you painted yourself in a corner dude how you getting out?
 Laidbackguy1964
Joined: 4/20/2017
Msg: 253
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 1:05:29 PM
Yep online dating sucks for men? Big list next....freeloaders, gold diggers, emotionally damaged, with men issues, single mothers looking for a meal ticket, too many of them, time wasters, ego boosters and wow what a choice for a man...spot the good woman worth dating, from the bad in that list? choices, choices hmm...finding a good woman???
I don't want a headcase...I want normal...no games, no lies, no drama. no issues..no misery...mission impossible...are all the good women taken????
oh well...dreamy song...chris isaak...wicked game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3Nl1GZzuw
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 1:57:36 PM
Silver, that guy is a loser. That was rude and wrong to do on a date. He's never going to be better than what you just saw.

Yep, there are far too many losers out there now, because the guys that are decent and know how to make a relationship work are taken. My focus is on friendships with friends. If a decent guy comes along, great. If not, I have a good life and don't need a crappy guy to drag me down and lessen the quality of my life. You can even see their creepiness in their profiles. On top of being creepy, now they're angry because no one wants them and they're lashing out at women.
 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
Msg: 255
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 2:11:36 PM

because the guys that are decent and know how to make a relationship work are taken.


Regarding all these "decent" guys who are taken.....

Have they been taken since birth?
Never been single and available?
Did the women who "took" them just happen to get there first?
Or get lucky?
Or did they just decide those guys were nice guys, period, with no "but"s to squash the deal?

And doesn't the same concept apply to women?
That all the "decent" women are taken already?
Or is that another one of those double standards?
 Nestaron
Joined: 3/22/2016
Msg: 256
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 2:20:55 PM
^hahaha oh that one is good... What a world what a world sorry had to do spaceballs reference
 Jackcrusto
Joined: 2/27/2017
Msg: 257
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 4:13:13 PM


because the guys that are decent and know how to make a relationship work are taken.



Regarding all these "decent" guys who are taken.....

Have they been taken since birth?
Never been single and available?
Did the women who "took" them just happen to get there first?
Or get lucky?
Or did they just decide those guys were nice guys, period, with no "but"s to squash the deal?

And doesn't the same concept apply to women?
That all the "decent" women are taken already?
Or is that another one of those double standards?


(my most proper deep royal voice) Look you must ignore the double standards at all costs it is the b!tches code or some sh!t. Even when the b!tches council decides that a woman be deemed a wh0re for having multiple children with different men yet the men that she had these children with are just men it is final and without question. I'm taken so I am a decent guy and only I may be allowed to approach her. <----(another double standard we are to ignore as she said she wouldn't respond to me and I'm taken) Get it?

ahahahaahaha Nucking futs


^hahaha oh that one is good... What a world what a world sorry had to do spaceballs reference


I love space balls man this sh!t is funny and all and I could care less what happens to a lot of these crazy f^cks but what I worry about is she said her friend had a kid. A son but the sex of the child really doesn't matter. The push and pull of society that when you have a failed relationship you must justify it and you are pressured to justify it in a way that it absolves yourself of all the blame is utterly ridiculous.

We make these women and single moms feel this need because if they don't justify it in this way then we baraid them with the guilt their children are in single parent homes now because of it. Like I gave the three options and in reality that is the only options anyone has man or woman. Now we put so much pressure on women they can't pick option B and/or C right?

Even though we all know that is the case. That is horrible for the psychology of women as a whole but then it is far worse for the children. We put them into a position to demonize all men and if you think about it what does this do to those young men or little boys? My dad is bad all men are bad or if my dad is bad I will grow up to be bad. Any wonder why so many men who were raised by single women end up in prison? Now you look at a little girl or a young woman. All men are bad my dad is bad what if I find a bad man like mom did?

Now when she grows up she has a higher risk of having a failed relationship. Process repeats. So really NewYorker58 has fallen prey to all the societal pressure society as a whole has put on women. Society being not only men but women do it to themselves far harder and worse than men ever could. How do we change this?
 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
Msg: 258
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 4:37:05 PM
jackcrusto-
^hahaha oh that one is good... What a world what a world sorry had to do spaceballs reference

Nesteron, I'm glad you cleared THAT up. I would have guessed The Wizard of Oz. What?! The witch says that when they throw water on her and she's melting.

"How do we change this?"
I have a tendency to be willing to tell people to go fvck themselves, but only if I have bail money in the bank.
Otherwise, I pull out the old southern phrase........"Well, Bless your heart."
Gotta' switch it up, from time to time. :D
 sun___flower
Joined: 5/8/2015
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Why are so many people disillusioned with Canadian TV?
Posted: 6/8/2017 5:10:24 PM

Watch " Breaking Bad " ....and then watch a Canadian show called " The Beachcombers " ....and then tell me which show YOU prefer

But you guys have Justin Bieber!
 Jackcrusto
Joined: 2/27/2017
Msg: 260
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 5:19:08 PM

jackcrusto-
^hahaha oh that one is good... What a world what a world sorry had to do spaceballs reference

Nesteron, I'm glad you cleared THAT up. I would have guessed The Wizard of Oz. What?! The witch says that when they throw water on her and she's melting.

"How do we change this?"
I have a tendency to be willing to tell people to go fvck themselves, but only if I have bail money in the bank.
Otherwise, I pull out the old southern phrase........"Well, Bless your heart."
Gotta' switch it up, from time to time. :D


That is the healthiest way to deal with society but now you got your kids and any potential future mates as well. I mean as a man I have a son and two daughters so the oldest two are with the first the younger one is a daughter with a girlfriend. <--- the reason I'm chubby by the way we cook together and it is just our thing we do to spend time together. Anyhoo I as a man have no problem saying daddy made mistakes he thought he was doing the right thing and it wasn't. Mommy did the same. Yet if you do that as a woman it can be more difficult. Yes Yes I'm a wh0re I had kids with more than one woman. Oh wait nevermind I'm a man so it's cool. lmao
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 261
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Posted: 6/8/2017 6:17:59 PM
Now that I've come to realize you are a woman hating troll, I am not responding to you anymore. When you can man up and put a face to your profile, maybe I would consider conversing with you, but that probably would not be enough, because you're still a woman hater.
 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
Msg: 262
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 6:18:50 PM
jackcrusto- My ex is not my oldest son's father. The short version: Young, sheltered, naive, spit happens. The other two belong to him, but my oldest was not even one when me met. He's not my favorite person and he was pretty crappy to me, but my son loves him, so I leave that to them.
I would walk through hell on pitchforks to do what is best for my children.
You're a whore?
Well, me too then, I guess.
Us baddies, we need to be ashamed.
Let's start a brothel, but I get to be in charge, you can be the muscle. ;)
ps- I cook with my children too, it's a great way to bond. Chubby? Nah, you can borrow my word, fluffy. :D :D
 Nestaron
Joined: 3/22/2016
Msg: 263
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 7:26:10 PM
I wouldn't even know where to begin to fix problems but it starts as kidlets so I imagine that is the only place it could be fixed.

Nice articles and good reads

http://themojocompany.com/2016/01/why-people-wont-admit-theyre-wrong/#sthash.jfI914ku.dpbs

It's like a person cheats blame the cheater cause he didn't. But refuse to acknowledge the cause might have partially been the victim's own doing but we wont hold them accountable cause they didn't do the action. Thanks I will take the responsibility of what happened in my role in the action even if I was the victim doesn't mean I am blameless interesting concept though.

This is what young teenage girls are doing great women in the making and who taught them parents. Kids imitate those who they most identify with guess what you have been creating ladies. Yes that is everywhere so if their boyfriends or men cheat now or later in life you know who to really look at.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4574560/Post-details-girls-abuse-boyfriends.html

See that one on teens has been going for a long time and when women tried it on me I dumped them. It didn't matter and still dont women can never do that crap to me cause I have never tolerated it and neither do my daughters.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 6/8/2017 8:05:08 PM
My feelings are that it's the cheaters fault. Being cheated on is like being punched in the face. Should a person accept responsibility for being punched....no. If someone wants to punch you, they need to deal with their aggression issues. If they want to cheat, THEY need to work on their cheating issues. As you stated, these people can be imitating their parents. It has nothing to do with the person they're cheating on. The only way for a partner to stop the other from cheating on them is by dumping them.

I don't know what you think of Dr. Phil, but he makes the cheater get into therapy. It doesn't mean they will stop, but sometimes you have a spouse that refuses to let go of a bad relationship and wants to try therapy. If they stay, they get to worry about whether their s/o will cheat again, because you never know. A person can say they'll forgive, but no one forgets, and that memory lives on in the form of anxiety over that person and when they will do it next.
 Jackcrusto
Joined: 2/27/2017
Msg: 265
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 9:42:55 PM

'Another young lady started to hit her ex-boyfriend because he wouldn’t take her back because of the abuse,' the poster added. 'He called the cops on her and they literally started laughing at him because she was very petite in comparison to him. Anyone can be abusive and I wish more people understood that.'


This is really disturbing Nestaron I mean it makes you say no wonder the male suicide rate is through the roof. At the sametime I am surprised at the societal pressures on women that their suicide rate isn't much higher. So neither gender sounds like fun.



My feelings are that it's the cheaters fault.


Is it? Were you not the one who chose this person? Were you not present during the relationship? Did the cheater start cheating day 1 and you simply ignored it till one day you were suddenly shocked you were married to a cheater or did he not cheat for years and suddenly wake up one day to start cheating? I don't think I said it isn't the cheater's fault I think I said you played a part as well and it was probably a %50/%50 deal.


Being cheated on is like being punched in the face.


Yes it is and we discussed this too didn't we? You are a slow learner aren't you?


Should a person accept responsibility for being punched....no.


SEE slow as shit. Your friends are bullsh!t. Oh yeah you will find people that are going to buy the cheating and the punching fell from the f^cking sky. I'm guilty of telling women just like you exactly what you want to hear in order to do everything from drop your panties to simply go the f^ck away. I never really buy what women like you are selling though. You know the lie that it had nothing at all to do with you. I, like probably every person you think you sold this sh!t to was pretending to buy it to get what I wanted or didn't want from you. Like right now I really don't want you mad at me. I don't like it that you hate me. I don't know why I'm going to put myself out there and do this in the hopes you take another look at what I've said in a different light from a different perspective to help yourself. So easy for me just to tell you what you want to hear and move on but it don't make it right.


these people can be imitating their parents. It has nothing to do with the person they're cheating on


Bullsh!t. Who is going to know if their parents cheated on each other or not? Kids aren't present when mommy is having sex with another man who isn't daddy and they aren't present when daddy is having sex with someone who isn't mommy so they can't very well imitate this can they? Now they can imitate dysfunction in general in a multitude of ways. Those things can be attributed to their parents running a dysfunctional home. But they ain't gonna become cheaters because mommy and/or daddy were cheaters that's just f^cking stupid.


The only way for a partner to stop the other from cheating on them is by dumping them.


I can't very well advocate staying with a cheating partner if I dumped my cheating partner now can I? What I can advocate is I played a central role in her cheating. When asked by work if I would take longer hours for a sh!tload more money I was game. I worked 100+ hours a week for months and she didn't work and I made a choice to neglect my family for what I thought was enough to be worth it. I was a f^cking fool. Young ignorant stupid idiot of a human being. Looking back on it today I traded my family for what is equal to pennies today. She socked it to me in court I let her have it all left me basically destitute and I was still bringing in a paycheck and I moved in with my parents.

Her new boyfriend and her had lots of money with my intent it be for the kids well you can't have money and kids keeping you back now can you? So on my parents porch there they were at 2 and 3 years old. Divorce wasn't even final, no sh!t. I already signed the house the cars all of it over I had a f^cking ford focus and a tv. I got to find a different job 100+ hours ain't going to work now right? Single dad and all. Found another job made more money less hours met a woman who had two kids of her own two years later and never looked back. Yeah me and that woman also had our ups and downs we've never cheated on one another and I never made that bad choice again. Learned a hard lesson, learned from my mistakes.

She never paid no child support or helped me in anyway. May not see her for a year at a time. Kids were 15, 16 and I got yelled at because I hadn't gotten one a driver's license and the other an ID early enough for her so she could go on a trip with them all of a sudden out of the blue. Even though I know god damn well they will take the paper ID as people lose their sh!t and have prepaid trips 3 years in advance all the time. Then the goofy f^ck has the nerve to call me to pay for the baggage at the airport because she didn't account for that sh!t. Really? I could blow the f^ck up with the frustrations go off on a tangent about all women are some stupid sh!t like some lying cheating whores this or that or something. However, I realize that is my kids mom and that is entirely my fault so it is my mess and I made it so I got to deal with it.


Now you want to talk about Dr. Phil? Really? You know he ain't a real doctor and sh!t right? I like to watch doctor phil and such too but it is for entertainment purposes most of that sh!t ain't exactly real I mean cash me outside howabout that?
 Nestaron
Joined: 3/22/2016
Msg: 266
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Posted: 6/8/2017 11:07:34 PM
No doubt on the suicide rate on that. The sh!t I got wind of today I was like no wonder their cheating what the heck. Immediately discussed it with my daughter and her boyfriend if either does it they will have me to deal with and I am not nice. I make them write cursive as punishment my youngest calls that a weird form of torture but it's effective.

Yeah I can understand your's jack one had the same incident just no kids over worked under paid and not enough to pay the differential of the damage done. Another lady was just cause the guy thought she was sexy, it didn't matter if I did cause I was suppose to think that I was her fiancee. That was an interesting one I didn't know what to say in that conversation never heard something so stupid, and I didn't want to laugh at her but realized how badly damaged she was inside, and she needed help but refused it even afterward and we split. When she finally got it she became emotionally more stable and has been married now for 10 years I think with no cheating, so she became a better person. What would have happened if she got the helped she should have had before she cheated it who knows right, I took responsibility for not seeing her emotional baggage or working to much.

I owned upto the stuff I did not as serious as people think but more serious cause less time with someone means connection loss, appreciation and reaffirmation with the person, love life dwindles, time of family dwindles woman feels unappreciated, undesired that is huge damage to them especially since most women dont even view themselves as beautiful to begin with and need re-assurance. I always think back coulda shoulda woulda but didn't. Try better next time I am only human.
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 10/31/2015
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Posted: 6/8/2017 11:21:24 PM
Please, for the love of God, define specifically what you mean by, "Cheating."
Adultery? Dating outside the marriage? Watching porn? Joining a Co-ed softball team? Working out at the gym?
How about making holiday plans and commitments with your side of the family and not asking if your partner had anything going on? Seeking a shrink for yourself without your partner knowing? How about buying expensive shoes or art supplies for some hobby you decided you just HAD to do instead of saving for a vacation? What about forgetting to pay a bill when it was your turn that month? Where do you find this magical straw that breaks the camels' back? --Because, guess what? That mythical straw doesn't exist. People make that decision, where and when and how they feel it's time.

For a marriage or an extended relationship, maybe it's adultery -- but for people in here, online -- it's the most vain and silly reasons -- a photo that's out of focus, a spelling error, a height or age, a word they read or a similar statement that makes them think of a bad memory with a past bad date but has abso-freakin NOTHING to do with this new person.


Why do people cheat? Because they're cheaters.


Excuses can be made for cheaters, but in the end, it's up to the cheater to have never gotten married if they know they are like this.


I saw nastiness from the husbands, the way they treated them and spoke to them. The love was gone, and there was no respect. There's no reason to treat someone with no respect if the love fades. That speaks to someone's personality.

It doesn't speak to ANYone's personality. You keep trying to nail down labels like 'Losers' or 'Abusers' or 'Cheaters' like it's something they were BORN to do. These people dated, married, had kids together, LOVED each other at one time or another. Also, these things can happen from BOTH genders, from BOTH sides of a relationship. I highly doubt ANY of these painful interactions were one-sided.

Anger and resentment are not a snap decision based on a single event - not by a long shot. Stuff like this builds over time. Tit-for-tat kind of crap. Cheap shots get exchanged by all kinds of actions. Abuse is rarely EVER physically violent exclusively. Conflict goes on for so damn long people forget how it started - and a lot of them actually refuse to search for the source - because that means examining their OWN actions, too. Cheating is rarely a reason why -- it's more like the end result of a lot of other crap that's happened.


The only way for a partner to stop the other from cheating on them is by dumping them.

Of course it is. It's the ONLY way. (That's sarcasm)
Funny how you can't be found wrong if you run away and refuse to handle the truth.
People have had affairs and still stayed married 50+ years. People stayed together though mental illness, paralysis, strokes, drug addictions, sex addictions - cripes, you name it - and there's a pair of 80-somethings out there having an anniversary party that have done it all.

This isn't woman-bashing going on - it's ignorance-bashing. People love to be so declarative about what's wrong about someone else and pick the side their friends are on, without so much as an ounce of self-reflection. You know how people stay together? What magic purpose keeps them connected above all else? It's incredibly simple. They put up with each others' sh1t and have enough respect for the other to change themselves if it's too much.

People online in here don't want to change. Our patience has disappeared faster than the profiles we swipe left. We sit in from of our glowing screens like we are Masters of the Universe, when the truth is we probably have no clue where we left the keys or what our current checking balance is, and don't want to know our weight because it's too depressing. Looking for someone who doesn't cheat is like looking for someone who doesn't fart -- there's no way to know what causes it without getting involved on a day-to-day basis, and making Masters of the Universe declarations in here won't prove any theory correct - because it means nothing if you can't figure out more than one reason why something happens.


People who do these things don't care about anyone else but themselves.

Yup. Absolutely right. But it's not JUST about lying or cheating to others on a date, a profile or message inside a dating site -- It's also lying and cheating on YOURSELF by believing certain superficial 'standards' in here are necessary for a healthy dating relationship. Most people that find love in here all tell similar success stories - that the person they met wasn't what they EXPECTED. Maybe it's time to realize this 'disillusionment' with online dating isn't someone else's fault. What you need, what you expect, what you deserve -- they are all worse lies we tell ourselves than anything anyone else could dream up. We cheat ourselves out of a happy life far more than anyone else.
 Jackcrusto
Joined: 2/27/2017
Msg: 268
Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/8/2017 11:58:52 PM
Man I identify with all that hard core man. I often think did I cause her whole life to go down in the sh!tter like that? I get made fun of to this day via my old lady mom and brother and stuff when it's just adults and this subject comes up. You remember that movie The Jerk? Well I was hurt you know so I'd been cheated on and she wanted a divorce new guy was going to fix all her problems the whole deal. So there I was like The Jerk all I need is this TV this toilet paper and this ford focus. lmao My old lady does an impression and the sh!t is hallarious. My brother and mother who seen the sh!t as I experienced it laugh their azzes off at it because it's true.

It sucked because I couldn't go back on it because that was set and signed and agreed on yet the divorce wasn't final. They had a child custody trial of I think 90 days if I remember so that part could be change when we went in to finalize. Well they swapped primaries and gave it another trial period after it was all said and done it was like a year and a half long divorce due to all this bullsh!t and it could've been done in 6 months. It was a long series of getting completely screwed talk about a bad couple of years. lmao


I owned upto the stuff I did not as serious as people think but more serious cause less time with someone means connection loss, appreciation and reaffirmation with the person, love life dwindles, time of family dwindles woman feels unappreciated, undesired that is huge damage to them especially since most women dont even view themselves as beautiful to begin with and need re-assurance. I always think back coulda shoulda woulda but didn't. Try better next time I am only human.


Man this is absolutely true. I f^cked up. Her and her boyfriend I'd say went a year and she called me talking about getting back together. I just started laughing kind of nervously uncontrollably. Divorce wasn't final still yet but I found out some time later it centered around they blew through the money and he just left her holding the bag. She married like an evangelist in a church or something like that a couple years later. That didn't last long and she started fooling around on that guy too. Crazy I know.

When me and my second wife had a year in a half break up and that is how I got my youngest child with a girfriend. Right after we broke up I got a call and you know who it was. lmao I was like really? Again I just laughed uncontrollably man and I was really trying not to. It hurt her feelings and made her mad but man there is just no way it would never happen it was way too much man. She put on a good argument or tried too. She was all like we are older now and probably go together better and blah blah blah. I couldn't even make it through the whole spill man. I was like look never gonna happen dude.

She was really sh!tty and mean after that I mean she wasn't around very much but when she was we could be civil with one another yah know? Finally after enough abuse it was after the airport incident I was like you know what our kids are old enough to be the middlemen for this sh!t we don't need to speak because I'm tired of you talking to me like a dog. I've never spoken to that woman again to this very day. Went to my son's graduation and she was right there and she tried to talk to me and I never spoke a word. Kids and my old lady talked to her but I refused as to not give her the opportunity to mistreat me again. Shame really. I tried to get along and did for the longest but after her attempt at getting back together incident she was I guess too mad to treat me like a human being that wasn't interested in her.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Why are so many people disillusioned with relationships?
Posted: 6/9/2017 1:03:39 AM
Really, so a guy works a lot of hours and that's a good excuse for a woman or anyone to cheat on their s/o? These are low life women.

My first ex-h was a student. I saw him for 1 hr at at the end of the night before going to bed, and limited time on the weekend. Never did I ever think to cheat on him, LOL!!! For guys working hard long hours, it's not to be expected that a wife will cheat. It's uncalled for and it speaks to low moral values. A guy is working long hours for the betterment of the family and that's how you repay him? So the guy has to work less hours to sit home and babysit his wife? What happened to being supportive?

So many couples work at jobs where their off hours don't coincide with each other to spend a lot of time together. They don't cheat on each other. You guys need a better class of women.
 Nestaron
Joined: 3/22/2016
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Posted: 6/9/2017 5:31:32 AM
Great now that we cleared that up is there a website or dating site that says better class of women cause my area sucks azz.


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 browneyesboo
Joined: 4/3/2017
Msg: 271
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Posted: 6/9/2017 7:10:45 AM

Please, for the love of God, define specifically what you mean by, "Cheating."


Usually in a relationship, people have boundaries and know where they are.
Generally, if you think you need to keep something secret or are uncomfortable telling your SO
about it, you know it's wrong.

Most healthy relationships certainly allow for friendships and time spent with members of the
other sex.

Cheating, IMO, would be crossing the boundaries, certainly having sex with someone else, planning
day trips and overnights without including the SO, but then the lines are pretty simple for me.

If you can't tell your SO you had lunch with a female friend, it's either because the lunch was more
than a lunch or your SO is jealous and doesn't trust you. Can't help with the jealous business, that's
another topic.

Personally, I find it hard to believe someone doesn't know what cheating is.
They do. They just want a clear line. Then they want an excuse for why they crossed it.
"Well geez, I figured I couldn't have sex, but I didn't know a make out session was out of bounds!"
Yeah, I don't buy it.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:15:00 AM
Guys, don't commit too soon!
 spot4username
Joined: 12/15/2015
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:05:31 AM

Great now that we cleared that up is there a website or dating site that says better class of women cause my area sucks azz.

I have read a number of your posts. You usually don't come across as especially bitter or jaded. I do really believe you need a profile review. Take some new photos. I honestly thought you were about ten or so years older than me. You are actually younger and wouldn't even accept an email from someone as old as me.

OT - I see disillusionment in some of my friends both male and female. They all have one thing in common - they are all the sort of people who seem to need to be with someone all the time. My friends who are comfortable being alone (like myself) don't seem to be disillusioned. We pretty much take it a day at a time. If we connect with someone... awesome... if not... that is okay too.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 274
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Posted: 6/9/2017 9:17:43 AM
Scented hand lotion and a bottle of wine.

Yep. Wallet is healthier too...
 browneyesboo
Joined: 4/3/2017
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Posted: 6/9/2017 10:07:31 AM
^^^^is that before or after the flaming cheetos?
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