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 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 51
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Homosexuals have much higher rates of anxiety, depression, substance abuse,.suicide, sexual promiscuity and pedophilia.



^^^ says the Texan redneck
We'll take your word as gold........


.................not





Ever notice the typical pedophile in movies is always a straight white man, not a gay man??? Hmmmmmmm
I know you say you aren't religious but you wouldn't happen to belong to a chapter of the Westboro Baptist Church?
They always have such... interesting... opinions. :)
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 52
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 1:00:14 PM

Ever notice the typical pedophile in movies is always a straight white man, not a gay man???


You saw something on the idiot box and believe it must be true.

You like gay men because you've been brainwashed by television to be afraid and resentful towards real men.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 53
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 1:03:59 PM

Homosexuals have much higher rates of anxiety, depression, substance abuse,.suicide, sexual promiscuity and pedophilia


And I wonder what legitimate research was used to arrive at this conclusion...perhaps none...other than homophobicsRUs.com.

Here's what a UC Davis psychology research paper has to the connection between homosexuality and pedophilia:


Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).
In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

In summary, each of these studies failed to support the hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html


You saw something on the idiot box and believe it must be true.


Is this why you state an opinion yet don't back it up with legitimate resources?

More information from that UC Davis paper:


sexual orientation is not a mental illness nor is it inherently associated with impaired psychological functioning.


While bigotry may not be a mental illness, the psychosis associated with the outright hatred shown by some bigots is.
 bigal80ak2
Joined: 5/2/2012
Msg: 54
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 2:19:03 PM
I think we should be asking why it is not legal everywhere. This is supposed to be a country where all people can come in live and be treated equally without hostility or prejudice. IT just bothers me we are the united states yet we seem to take every chance we can get to act divided.
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 55
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Posted: 4/26/2015 2:25:56 PM

Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room


Most children who are sexually molested do not go to the emergency room.

Child molesters typically "groom" their victims and abuse them over an extended period of time. And cases are usually not discovered until after the fact. When it is too late to do a physical examination.

When there is violence, the victims are usually murdered, so they cannot identify their abuser. And dead kids who were raped and murdered by pedophiles don't go to the emergency either.

An honest, unbiased researcher would sample men who have been convicted of sexually abusing children. And convicted pedophiles who kill little children are almost all queer.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 56
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 2:46:31 PM

Most children who are sexually molested do not go to the emergency room.


As a high school educated engineer I'm sure that your "opinion" has great weight among those in academia. I'm sure that APA totally agree's with this high school engineer educated "opinion:"


Homosexuality is a mental disorder.


Let's see what the American Psychological Association has to say aboiut homosexuality as a mental illness/disorder:


The American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL. Their first two paragraphs are:
The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.


Clearly, the APA is not an organization comprised of bigots.


Child molesters typically "groom" their victims and abuse them over an extended period of time.


Are there any statistics from legitimate sources to substantiate this?


When there is violence, the victims are usually murdered, so they cannot identify their abuser.


Actually, often the victim is related to the heterosexual offender and no one is murdered.


An honest, unbiased researcher would sample men who have been convicted of sexually abusing children.


Exactly, the "opinion" of some high school educated bigot carries so much more weight than research from psychiatric professionals in academia.


almost all queer.


The only thing queer here is the opinion of some red neck bigot.
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 57
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 7:06:56 PM

The American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality

"The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity"


Why would a professional organization dedicated to scientific study of the human mind make a statement about something as subjective as morality? This sounds more like a disclaimer than a statement of fact.
 2015cashmere
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 58
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 7:18:00 PM
Um, because homosexuality is not a "moral" issue, well, at least it isn't for intelligent folks. Apparently it's only a "moral" issue for fear mongers, nar minded folks, bigots and those that can't do their own research. I mean, folks used to think the world was flat too until they had knowledge.

An open mind is a terrible thing to waste.

An engineer...do you drive trains? Hmmm.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 59
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/26/2015 7:55:20 PM

Why would a professional organization dedicated to scientific study of the human mind make a statement about something as subjective as morality?


If this was a sincere question, rather than a trolling effort, then you would research the American Psychiatric Association position on homosexuality. And if no answer could be found there then you would perhaps contact them through email or letter to ask your question and hope for an answer explaining their position. But, this would take effort on your part. After reading your "opinions" that have no foundation in fact, nor evidence to support, then I conclude you are 1) too lazy to investigate further 2) just another internet troll 3) not smart enough to search for supportive documentation 4) a bigot with an "opinion"
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 4/27/2015 6:03:18 AM

Homosexuality is a mental disorder. After "gay marriage" gets done they will want to "marry" little boys.
You do know that "gay" marriage involves women as well as men ... don't you?

Soooo ... what makes you think a lesbian would want to marry a little boy?
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 61
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/27/2015 6:21:29 AM
The APA position on homosexuality changed based on what exactly? a breakthrough discovery about the cause of homosexuality? what major scientific studies supported this change?
Social acceptance became more prevalent, the gay advocates started applying more pressure becoming more organized etc..these were the primary cause of the change

From the APA website -
There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.

They won't even take choice completely out as a contributing factor....
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 62
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/27/2015 6:46:51 AM

The APA position on homosexuality changed based on what exactly? a breakthrough discovery about the cause of homosexuality? what major scientific studies supported this change?
Social acceptance became more prevalent, the gay advocates started applying more pressure becoming more organized etc..these were the primary cause of the change


Let me explain this so that you and your fellow homophobic bigot can understand:

The quoted passage addresses your position that being gay is a "choice" and dispels that notion by saying there is no scientific evidence to support your claim. Just as there is no scientific evidence, at this time, to support the notion that there is a "gay gene." Their explanation is that "nature and nurture" come into play in the complex nature of things.


There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.


The APA concludes that there is no difference in the incidence of pedophilia, rape, incest, psychological or neurological diseases between the gay community and the heterosexual community. This addresses the argument we were currently discussing and not your change in argument (a typical homophobic bigot tactic.)


No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are
not disorders. Research has found no inherent
association between any of these sexual orientations
and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior
and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of
human sexuality. Both have been documented
in many different cultures and historical eras.
Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray
lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed,
several decades of research and clinical experience
have led all mainstream medical and mental
health organizations in this country to conclude
that these orientations represent normal forms
of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual
relationships are normal forms of human bonding.
Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago
abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a
mental disorder




I think your argument that the APA changed its position on homosexuality in 1975 due to social pressure is absurd. Discrimination and bigotry towards the gay community was so much more pervasive then than it is now....yet, bigotry remains today.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2015 12:45:54 PM
Remember when the bigots said that black people had smaller brains, were lower on the human scale, couldn't be taught to read or write, etc., and based it on science and religion, yeah, it's pretty easy to see who likes to make up stuff and then call it truth. And so much of it is supported (for them) by religion. Funny how science is all wrong, and supported as wrong by religion, until they need something outrageously stupid to be backed up and then oh it's science which is really some made up crap they heard on some extremist blabberings by those who want certain people to be treated like less-than-humans.

No most pedophiles are not homosexuals, show your source for that untruth. Most molested children are used by someone close to them, family or friends, someone with an opportunity. Yes there are homosexuals who are also pedophiles but one thing does not mean the other. Lots of step-fathers molest their step-children, does that mean that step-fathers are pedophiles, no it does not mean that, those are two separate things that may be presence in an equation but not the same thing. Heterosexuals are not less likely to be pedophiles, they aren't more likely either, pedophiles are sexually attracted to children and some of them take action, not all pedophiles actually go on to molest children. Just like not all gay people go on to have sexual relationships with others, just like not all straight people go on to have relationships with others. Just because you want something to be true to fulfill your own prejudices, does not and never will, make it true.
 Nottinghamfellow
Joined: 4/5/2012
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Posted: 4/27/2015 3:40:16 PM
Well said daynadaze.

as they say Haters gonna Hate.

Please please please watch this all the way through. I have to warn the redneck that it is a man in a dress, but at least he is Irish, and I know the Irish are loved in USA, so way to go...

I know it will not change anyones mind, but the Republic of Ireland are having a referendum this year on the topic of gay marriage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIhsv18lrqY

ps it does mention the St Patricks day parades in New York City ;-)
 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 65
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/27/2015 3:53:59 PM
So what do we call gays who oppose same sex marriage? Many do as they are smart enough to realise that homosexuality can never be a marriage as it defies the whole definition of marriage.

Why don't the gays who are making all the noise about"equality" and "discrimination" and their misguided supporters just shut the fvck up. They are not discriminated against in my State as they can declare a de facto relationship and have the same rights as a married couple .

But NO! They won't as it has become a political issue. Their argument goes like this" poor me I was born gay and now I can't marry the person I love".

They want to change the whole definition and institution of marriage which has existed since the dawn of civilisation and predates any constitution or laws about it.

What can't they read? Marriage is the sexual union of a Man and a Woman.

Why don't the gays do something really smart and make up another term for their union. They can still have all the bells and whistles on their union day which straight people do, which is after all what they are jealous of.

For Men they could call their wedding day analiage, for the women they could call their wedding day lickeriage.
 Nottinghamfellow
Joined: 4/5/2012
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Posted: 4/27/2015 4:05:37 PM
Rob
Is it ok for homosexual people to walk down the street hand in hand in your state, in the real world in your state?

Will they get spat at or beat up, in your state?

The idea is to create ordinary life for everyone, everyone Rob.

The things the "majority" have, just ordinary life Rob, in your state and every fu cking where else you selfish bas tard.

What make you superior to anyone else Rob?

Fed up putting up!

And believe me, I don't want to get married, I have enough sex with married men sneaking off from their wife for a bit up the a ss, Rob...

Does this mean anything to you Rob?

I don't need the shite of marriage Rob but so f cuking what if others do... The bible was written by man not god, the dictionary was written by man. Definitions change over time Rob, don't be a twat...
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 67
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Posted: 4/27/2015 4:24:00 PM

So what do we call gays who oppose same sex marriage?


We call them gay. Pretty much like we call straights who are against marriage...straight.


Why don't the gays who are making all the noise about"equality" and "discrimination" and their misguided supporters just shut the fvck up.


Well, first, gays and their supporters don't have to shut up. And second, perhaps gays don't wish to be denied services and opportunities that others enjoy....like equal employment and a work environment where there is no job discrimination...like buying a pizza where ever they chose...or a cake for their wedding.


They want to change the whole definition and institution of marriage which has existed since the dawn of civilisation and predates any constitution or laws about it.


How wonderful it would be to go back to the days when two sticks were rubbed together to make a fire...which predated a match. Or back to the days when a man just chose a woman and she had no say about it.


They are not discriminated against in my State as they can declare a de facto relationship and have the same rights as a married couple .


I do believe I've read that civil unions in Australia do not grant "all" rights and privileges that married people enjoy.


Such reforms however, do not completely equalise treatment for same-sex couples, who for instance, do not have the same rights and entitlements as married heterosexual couples do with respect to workers' compensation death benefits, pensions for the partners of Defence Force veterans and access to carer's leave.[4] Despite large equality of rights, Australia does not have a national registered partnership, civil union or same-sex relationship scheme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Australia
 bamagrl68
Joined: 11/14/2010
Msg: 68
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Posted: 4/27/2015 5:59:32 PM
cold coffee- pedophilia-apples, homosexuality-oranges.
Pedophilia is the sexual attraction of an adult to a child.
Homosexuality is the sexual attraction of a person of one gender to the same gender.
I have some questions for you............
Just how far as a society would you like to see us regress?
Should women lose the right to vote?
Should it be legal again to own slaves?
Last, and most important...........
Tell me EXACTLY, FACTUALLY, how homosexual marriage is damaging to heterosexual marriage?
Divorce rates for heterosexuals is 54%, it's even higher for second and third marriages.
I challenge you to tell me how gay people being able to marry is going to make that FACT any worse?
Because you said so is neither an exact or factual reason. :D
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 69
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:58:54 PM
"Homosexuality is a mental disorder."
In a way that's true, because they cannot reproduce, which is contrary to all of Nature, but so what? Even if it was a disorder, don't people with disorders deserve to be happy with each other, providing no laws are being broken? Cancer is a disorder, don't those with cancer seek happiness?
And for those who maintain that homosexuality is a born condition, I defy you to spend any time in San Francisco, West Hollywood, Providencetown, or any other "gay " town and tell me all those people were born with those traits.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:55:48 PM

So what do we call gays who oppose same sex marriage?


The same thing I call straight people are who against marriage...they are people who don't believe in marriage.
 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 71
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Posted: 4/28/2015 3:30:21 AM

The things the "majority" have, just ordinary life Rob, in your state and every fu cking where else you selfish bas tard


Now you called me a **stard, it is really amusing when gays get offended by the definition of Marriage.


What make you superior to anyone else Rob?


Never said I was.



And believe me, I don't want to get married, I have enough sex with married men sneaking off from their wife for a bit up the a ss, Rob...

Does this mean anything to you Rob?


Yeah it means you are an adulterous faggot who thinks that shoving your****up another man's arse is perfectly NORMAL behaviour.


I don't need the shite of marriage Rob but so f cuking what if others do... The bible was written by man not god, the dictionary was written by man. Definitions change over time Rob, don't be a twat...


I never mentioned God, but seeing you did, did you know that God hates Faggots?



We call them gay. Pretty much like we call straights who are against marriage...straight


How convenient. But straight people who oppose gay marriage are automatically labelled as bigots. What a juxtaposition that is.



Well, first, gays and their supporters don't have to shut up. And second, perhaps gays don't wish to be denied services and opportunities that others enjoy....like equal employment and a work environment where there is no job discrimination...like buying a pizza where ever they chose...or a cake for their wedding


What a heap of paranoid shit.



I do believe I've read that civil unions in Australia do not grant "all" rights and privileges that married people enjoy


Nice bit of cherry picking from the inaccurate Wikipedia you produced. How convenient.


Should women lose the right to vote?


Yep, good idea as history has proven when Women got the right to vote the Western World went pear shaped.


"Homosexuality is a mental disorder"


Got that right.
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 72
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/28/2015 4:07:27 AM

I think your argument that the APA changed its position on homosexuality in 1975 due to social pressure is absurd. Discrimination and bigotry towards the gay community was so much more pervasive then than it is now....yet, bigotry remains today
I understand that's what you think, but it doesn't change anything, you were the one who brought the APA into the argument.. show some major study or breakthrough that the APA referred to when they decided to totally reverse their classification of Homosexuality as a mental disorder....



The APA concludes that there is no difference in the incidence of pedophilia, rape, incest, psychological or neurological diseases between the gay community and the heterosexual community. This addresses the argument we were currently discussing and not your change in argument (a typical homophobic bigot tactic.)
Right and prior too 1970 the APA concluded that homosexuality was a mental disorder, in 30 years they may totally reverse their position based other bs .
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 73
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/28/2015 4:20:54 AM

They want to change the whole definition and institution of marriage which has existed since the dawn of civilisation and predates any constitution or laws about it.


Since, the dawn of civilization is accepted to be somewhere around 9000 B.C.E. and the first recorded marriage around 2350 B.C.E., apparently marriage hasn't been around since the dawn of civilization. For a very long time marriage was about property resolution and procreation rather than love. Marriage for love is a relatively recent event. For a very long time a woman married to a man was the property of that man and if she wan't able to procreate it was acceptable and customary to be returned to her family and the man could chose another woman. A married man could have concubines to "satisfy" his needs" while his "wife" stayed at home to care for the home and his children.


Divorce rates for heterosexuals is 54%


For that matter, divorce is a relatively modern concept, having first been introduced into civilization somewhere around 1750 B.C.E. and certainly hasn't been around since the dawn of civilization. Widely accepted divorce is a much more modern concept and might be tied to the concept of "no fault divorce" which was first introduced in California in 1970. "No Fault Divorce" is probably the much more damaging to the "institution" of marriage than gay marriage since it has dramatically risen the divorce rate since introduced.


But straight people who oppose gay marriage are automatically labelled as bigots.


Yes, they are.


I never mentioned God, but seeing you did, did you know that God hates Faggots?


It becomes apparent that you speak directly with God. Do you hear other voices?


What a heap of paranoid shit.


For a PhD you are amazingly un-well read. In America all the incidences of discrimination against gays I've mentioned are well documented.


Nice bit of cherry picking from the inaccurate Wikipedia you produced. How convenient.


I notice you don't present any other argument to the debate...why is that?

But, if Wiki isn't enough, then how about aifs.gov?


Property and financial settlements after a de facto relationship breaks down are subject to state laws, which inevitably are not uniform.....

Somewhere near the middle of this spectrum appear de facto relationships of from one to five years' duration, together with shorter relationships that have produced offspring. The inclusion of these relationships at different points in the spectrum indicates the different legal consequences attaching to them. To further complicate matters, there are a myriad of state and federal laws that rely on different definitions applying in different circumstances, causing de facto relationships to attract more legal recognition in one state or for one purpose than they do in or for others.....


or how about this one from humanrights.gov.au???


The primary source of discrimination against same-sex couples in federal laws conferring financial and work-related entitlements is the way in which terms such as ‘spouse’, ‘de facto spouse’, ‘partner’, ‘member of a couple’ and other similar terms are defined in legislation. These definitions routinely include an opposite-sex partner and exclude a same-sex partner.

The consequence of these narrow definitions is that same-sex partners are treated differently to opposite-sex partners in a myriad of laws conferring financial and work-related entitlements. This differential treatment is contrary to one of the most fundamental principles of international law: the right to equality.....

There is a wide range of federal legislation which uses different definitions of ‘spouse’, ‘de facto spouse’, ‘marital relationship’, ‘member of a couple’, ‘partner’ and other terms used to describe a couple. There is also a range of federal legislation which uses terms like ‘spouse’ and ‘de facto spouse’ in substantive provisions, but does not define those words.

None of these laws recognise same-sex relationships.


I love this one:



"Homosexuality is a mental disorder"

Got that right.


Given the level of the debating skills shown by some I can only conclude....stupid is hereditary and cannot be fixed.
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 74
Which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage?
Posted: 4/28/2015 5:12:55 AM

I think your argument that the APA changed its position on homosexuality in 1975 due to social pressure is absurd. Discrimination and bigotry towards the gay community was so much more pervasive then than it is now....yet, bigotry remains today
I also said that the Homosexual lobby became more organized and vocal..you are very adept at researching I am sure you did and that is why you chose not to continue arguing against my statement.there are numerous accounts of gay groups protesting the 1970 APA convention, they had been lobbying for years and continued to lobby to get homosexuality removed from the classification as a mental disorder ....there was no scientific breakthrough for changing the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder...
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 75
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Posted: 4/28/2015 7:16:15 AM

I also said that the Homosexual lobby became more organized and vocal..you are very adept at researching I am sure you did and that is why you chose not to continue arguing against my statement.there are numerous accounts of gay groups protesting the 1970 APA convention


No. There was no reason to bring up 55 year old news (which, by definition-is no longer news)


.there was no scientific breakthrough for changing the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder...


Homophobia now wishes to reclassify homosexuality as a mental disorder. How sad the old hatred of the past is still present...kind of like how racism is all but over, but not.
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