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 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
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That"s how you interpret it? Really? I am not even a Bush fan and I can't see how you came to that conclusion unless it is just your latest volley into the who can be the most left leaning and PC wars of this Off Topic section.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 2002
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Posted: 6/14/2015 7:47:04 PM
That wasn't just his take on it. Every pundit today made the same observation - even the conservative columnists.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 6/14/2015 10:11:33 PM
It's awfully early for a Bush to be running, and maybe he's just getting his feet wet for down the line, but I can't imagine anyone wanting another Bush with the memory of GW is fresh in everyone's mind. There are so many wanting that nomination, it's a crowded field, Jeb doesn't seem to have a shot, then again there are lot of dozeies running too, so maybe Jeb will look sane. This is going to be interesting, and exhausting.

I don't know anything yet about the guy running against Hillary, don't even know his name yet, but it cracked me up when he said he'd have a revolving first lady position open. Boy would that get a lot of knickers in a knot!
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 2004
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Posted: 6/15/2015 3:26:53 AM
It seems more about trying to avoid the three Bushes as president appearance of a monarchy/dynasty than "failure." A lot of people think that Bush was great ( and that Obama is just a continuation of all Bush policies)and even some Dems are saying that maybe he was right ( and that Clinton would have done the same)about Iraq in light of what is happening in the region now.
 Orione7
Joined: 12/22/2014
Msg: 2005
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Posted: 6/15/2015 5:08:11 AM
Ummmm no... a lot that is happening in the region now would have been avoided if you had left Iraq alone..
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 2006
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Posted: 6/15/2015 8:20:10 AM
I'm waiting for Karl Rove to spout about the branding of Bush. and I don't mean a cattle brand, I mean as an advertising issue.
 cotter
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Posted: 6/15/2015 9:07:45 AM
gto ... I don't look for Rove to get involved with Jeb's campaign. If he does, he'd be a fool because it's not smart to hook up with such a loser.

Jeb is going to take a beating for being married to a "Brown" and his view on immigration will not pass the Teadippers test.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 2008
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:03:37 AM
The Bush name is associated with the term "read my lips-no new taxes."

The Bush name is associated with giving the 1% and corporate America a tax cut to the tune of $6.6 trillion while starting two fraudulent wars built on lies to the tune of $6 trillion. The Bush name is associated with ignoring all signs of the mortgage meltdown...signs the securities industry saw as early as 2005...signs CITI saw that sent it into a buying spree of CDS's to bet against all the CDO's it sold its' customers. The Bush name is associated with the unfunded Medicare Part D which cost the American taxpayer $1 trillion.

The Bush name is associated with "The Great Recession" (which is buzz word for "the great depression.) No wonder Jeb distances himself from the Bush name.

GWB was unwelcome by the GOP during the 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, and now the 2016 elections.


A lot of people think that Bush was great ( and that Obama is just a continuation of all Bush policies)and even some Dems are saying that maybe he was right ( and that Clinton would have done the same)about Iraq in light of what is happening in the region now.


A lot of people think GWB was great? My guess is it's the uneducated masses of GOP teapuppets that feel this way...but certianly no Democrats (unless we're speaking of the dixie democrats-which are southern democrats too lazy to change their party affiliation.)

I just cannot imagine one Democrat thinking Bush was right to overturn the stable government of Iraq (based on lies of weapons of mass destruction) and committing to the new Iraq government that we would leave Iraq by 2011 (BTW the troop withdrawal began in 2007 by Bush) without destabilizing the region...Or think that America would, or could afford, to leave an occupying force in Iraq till????2020???
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 2009
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:47:57 PM
I love the leftists criticizing Jeb Bush's logo.
Have you looked at Hillary's?
It's an "H", no "C" and a red (Republican) arrow pointed to the right.
What is wrong with the name "Clinton" oh yeah it's linked with the terms misogyny, corruption, lies, rape, deception...

It's called marketing folks get over it.

And speaking of the "1%"... There is no politician more beholding to Wall Street than Hillary. Who by the the way is a .01 percenter. How much money have ol Hill/Bill taken in with their Clinton Slush Fund?

You just couldn't can't write this stuff any better!
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:57:57 PM

Have you looked at Hillary's?
It's an "H", no "C" and a red (Republican) arrow pointed to the right.
What is wrong with the name "Clinton" oh yeah it's linked with the terms misogyny, corruption, lies, rape, deception...


This is the problem with conservatives (even those from Canada) they can only think on one level at a time.

Bernie is the choice of many Democrats and the sad thing for teapuppets is they can only attack his beliefs not his personal life.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
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Posted: 6/15/2015 2:41:18 PM

You just couldn't can't write this stuff any better!


Actually you can.

All you need to do is have someone who backs 99% of the GOP candidates saying it.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
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Posted: 6/15/2015 3:31:37 PM

This is the problem with conservatives (even those from Canada) they can only think on one level at a time.

It's like I pointed out before... One of "Mungo's Rules" (or formally, "Mungo's Rules for Understanding Conservatives")...

Conservatives think in "binary"... black and white... "0" and "1"... There is no grey and there are no fractions... The real world consists of "what they believe"... and the complete anti-thesis of those beliefs... nothing in between is real... it is just the "slippery slope" between "righteousness" (aka "what they believe") and "chaos" (the anti-thesis of those beliefs)... a "straight pipe" to the "sewer" of all their hatreds...

Of course... where that comes from is little mystery... as the minion so adroitly illustrated earlier... Conservatives can't handle complexity... they aren't "complexity minded"... They require simplicity... they are "simple minded"... Hence, this "binary" pattern of thinking...
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 6/15/2015 4:05:34 PM

It's like I pointed out before... One of "Mungo's Rules" (or formally, "Mungo's Rules for Understanding Conservatives")..


Which reminds me of another of "mungo's rules": Democrats say things that pizzoff Republicans and Republicans say things that pizzoff Republicans...to wit...as I was watching network news on Jeb's 2016 campaign kickoff there was a heckler riding Bush about immigration reform...and Bush said his presidency would enact meaningful immigration reform...after I heard that I thought...."well there goes all his teapuppet support"...the teapuppets now will now call Jeb a RINO (yea, I know, they already call Jeb a RINO)
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
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Posted: 6/15/2015 6:30:34 PM
"And speaking of the "1%"... There is no politician more beholding to Wall Street than Hillary"

^^^^^ That is just part of the smugness the Clintons have. And the liberal sheep just ignore and suck up her lies.
 cotter
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:03:27 PM
Message 2196 ...

And speaking of the "1%"... There is no politician more beholding to Wall Street than Hillary"


^^^^^ That is just part of the smugness the Clintons have. And the liberal sheep just ignore and suck up her lies.
Not all "libruls" are so supportive of Hillary, so get over it already.

However, the way you talk about it, you appear to be shaking in your shoes that she will actually win the White House. We're all aware that all the (so called and self-proclaimed) "moralists" will simply have a shyte fit.

You do realize though, that no matter how much you put the past president down, all of his past discretions are nothing compared to the problems the Republicans have in their closets.

 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:50:35 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this conversation has stopped being about 2014 and that a new thread should be started.


The one thing we can be sure of is that the American voters will be given a choice between a very - almost comically - right wing candidate, and a Republican. The GOP has gone so far, they're not even on the political spectrum anymore. They should just change the name to Sith or Death Eaters or something.
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:58:23 PM
Ahh, the emoticon poster. Shaking in my boots to speak factual as far as who is in bed with Wall Street????? And then for Shillary to say how she is so against the people she is in bed with? The education you and the other liberals will learn. You have said many times how you are not a big fan of Shillary, is her being in bed with Wall Street one of them? She is not the crusader for the "little people" that I am sure she goes home every night speaking about the American people. She could care less. If that doesn't bother people, nothing will. Not even a phone call at 3 in the morning. No, not worried about Shillary, but I know the liberal leadership is.
 daynadaze
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Posted: 6/15/2015 9:52:37 PM

The education you and the other liberals will learn.


Say what? And just who are these 'little people'?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 6/16/2015 5:12:51 AM

Am I the only one who thinks this conversation has stopped being about 2014 and that a new thread should be started.


Well, if the conversation was about the 2014 election the discussion may have died a natural death. But, the actual discussion is about how the GOP would implode on itself after the 2014 elections. It was about how, after claims they could govern, the post 2014 election results have shown they cannot lead, even after winning majorities in both houses of congress.

The GOP now has a field of 10 or so candidates running for the 2016 presidency with more to come. They are falling all over themselves attempting to out-conservative themselves...all except Jeb...who is attempting to position himself as a uber-conservative-who is moderate...a confusing stance...and one which is guaranteed to alienate the teapuppets...the rest of the uber-conservative candidates will alienate the moderate GOP base...they will alienate every minority, many women, most young voters, and every moderate voter that might lean republican.

The GOP is attempting to define the democrat candidate as Clinton, forgetting that Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders are also viable democrat candidates...heck, Bernie already does better than any republican candidate in the polls. Yet, republican teapuppets, in their simplistic manner, can only see Clinton as their opponent.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
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Posted: 6/16/2015 5:54:40 AM

Ahh, the emoticon poster.




Shaking in my boots to speak factual as far as who is in bed with Wall Street?????


Oh, look kids, extra ?'s, he must mean business.




And then for Shillary to say how she is so against the people she is in bed with?


And changing names, does your mom know you are using the computer?




The education you and the other liberals will learn.


The education you will learn?




You have said many times how you are not a big fan of Shillary, is her being in bed with Wall Street one of them?


You have dodged questions repeatable with regards to which candidate you support. Is that because there is not one you can list that does not make you look either simple or a hypocrite?




She is not the crusader for the "little people" that I am sure she goes home every night speaking about the American people.


Name one GOP candidate that you think is for the "little people".




She could care less. If that doesn't bother people, nothing will. Not even a phone call at 3 in the morning. No, not worried about Shillary, but I know the liberal leadership is.


Is Benghazi a scandal yet?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 6/16/2015 9:53:17 AM

You have dodged questions repeatable with regards to which candidate you support.


I'm sure his candidate is "Trump"


Is that because there is not one you can list that does not make you look either simple or a hypocrite?


It's because the list of GOP hopefuls share his moral values...like, denying a woman the right to make choices about her own healthcare...like, denying equal rights for gays...like, envisioning a Christian empire...like, healthcare for all-who can afford it...and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on....
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 2022
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:07:04 PM

Are Key Republican Leaders in D.C. Being Blackmailed?

Are key Republican leaders in D.C. from the Senate, House and Supreme Court being blackmailed? Tell me you haven’t thought the exact same thing? Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in DC. Rotten like a dead fish left at the front door of a Congressmen’s office by the Obama Crime Family. Rotten like a photo of a Supreme Court Justice with his robe down at his ankles.

Because what’s happening just isn’t normal. Please tell me how it’s possible that President Obama and his socialist cabal suffered the most massive and historic defeat in modern political history only 9 months ago- and since then they’ve gotten everything they’ve ever wanted handed to them on a silver platter. Does that make sense to you?

How’s it possible that the GOP- the party that won in a massive historic landslide gained nothing and won nothing? Not one victory. Zero. Zilch. Or in a language Democrats understand “Nada.”

Not only did Obama’s party lose badly…they lost everywhere from top to bottom. Senate. House. State Legislatures. Mayors. Governors. You name it. They lost the Governorships of deep blue Maryland and Massachusetts. They were destroyed.

And it was all about Obama. He wasn’t defeated- he was repudiated. Democrat Senate candidates refused his help. Democrats would not stand next to him on the same stage. Democrats treated Obama like a New Jersey toxic waste dump. Democrats treated Obama like a rotten fish.

Since then…conservatives have lost everything. Name something we won or achieved after that smashing victory? Name one thing. Name anything. I dare you. I double dare you.

And you don’t think someone has photos of GOP leaders in bed with little boys?

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2015/06/30/are-key-republican-leaders-in-dc-being-blackmailed-n2018837/page/full

Oh my... the teabaggers are completely losing their minds...

They thought they had it all... "In the bag"... "Top of the world"... and THIS is what they are reduced to... after "destroying" the Dems in "the most massive and historic defeat in modern political history"...
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:16:41 AM
^^^

I think the Reich-wing made enough really loud pooty noise that they finally got the average voter's attention. And the average voter didn't like too much what they were selling. . . .

Plus, you gotta remember, this is the party that unskews. If you don't like a fact, just keep redoing the numbers until you do.
 cotter
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:47:08 AM

America was demanding that conservative ideas be adopted.
Wasn't it the conservatives who wanted the government to have the possibilities to spy on us? I know they were the ones who were in control when they called us in and told us to spy on our patients.

The teadippers need to decide what they want ...

They want to know what's in Hilliary's emails but we shouldn't know about perverts like Hastert!
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 2025
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Posted: 7/14/2015 1:29:57 AM
Well... well... well...

After all that crowing... all that self-assured swagger... that they really had Obama "by the short and curlies"... comes this...

Iran nuclear deal: Historic agreement reached in Vienna

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-nuclear-deal-historic-agreement-reached-in-vienna-1.3150699

A deal with Iran that all the other major powers agree with... Soon to be passed through the Security Council...

Now this... on top of Obamacare (time to reclaim the word) and same sex marriage... It's starting to look like a "legacy"... and not an unimpressive one...

I suppose that alone will drive the Teabaggers over the top (cue the "muslim terrorist" chorus)... I'm almost starting to feel sorry for them... almost...
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