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 thompson1919
Joined: 11/30/2014
Msg: 226
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)Page 10 of 15    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15)
MGTOW is a movement philosophy I subscribe to and have my whole life. Men go their own way doesn't mean they forego women or that they become gay. It means they don't do things relationship wise that don't benefit themselves. Like getting married to a woman who makes less than themselves. So married men can and are members of MGTOW. They are also the equivalent of many Feminist organizations that are very interested in men's rights. Men got their own way is a little misleading it's more like men doing things their own way. I'm against getting married at all. As in even if I married someone who makes and has as much as myself what is there to keep her from quiting and losing it all? Basically it's men that believe in benefiting from their own hard work and what they make and earn is theirs and what their partner make and earn belongs to them. Relationship status aside. They also believe in not abiding to societal norms or religious doctrine that leads men to believe they should get married and lose half their assets when the marriage or relationship ends. Men doing things on their term their way or no way at all. It's what the organization believes and it's what I've always live by.
 Rooftop123423
Joined: 11/2/2016
Msg: 227
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)
Posted: 11/8/2016 3:27:57 AM
MGTOW is stupid, feminine is even more stupid and Men's rights is retarded. In end take responsibility for your own choices and actions.
 kidreason29
Joined: 9/25/2015
Msg: 228
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)
Posted: 11/28/2016 10:50:21 PM
real MGTOW, wouldn't actually use mgtow
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
Msg: 229
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Posted: 11/29/2016 3:40:12 AM
I would imagine that 'real men' whose values and behavior are legitimate and laudable...even if some female-movement was in fact dumb, would not "go their own way"; They'd be confused about what that was supposed to even mean - "going their own way"; They'd wonder exactly which way was that?; They'd wonder if it was supposed to be some way leading away from females in some sense, and of course therefore figure that it didn't make any sense to go any way which led away from females...

...Just as Feminists shoot themselves in the foot by continuing to call the whole thing 'Feminism' in the first place, whoever first came up with the label 'men going their own way' for a countering men's movement was being kind of dorky. "Going their own way"? Like...huh? Sounds too much like Eric Cartman saying "screw you guys, I'm going home".
 Laidbackguy1964
Joined: 4/20/2017
Msg: 230
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)
Posted: 6/29/2017 6:10:48 AM
Oh wow what a gem to find:) will check out all the comments now...hope to see some interesting one's:) It's bound to get some hateful comments from society's sheep and white knights, but hopefully some supportive comments too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qKR-A8L3J0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-e2FCa6QM
Oh shocking news...how bad can things get for men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71TsgQavVkM
Judge Judy not a feminist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eHLnb6kYnc
The wage gap is a myth
 PopCultureGeek
Joined: 11/27/2016
Msg: 231
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:50:00 AM
I have felt strongly tempted about joining MGTOW because me personally, I've always hated, resented, detested having to be the hunter
 Mister0Independent
Joined: 7/2/2017
Msg: 232
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Posted: 8/15/2017 5:04:59 PM
Some very famous historical figures were actually MGTOWs. For example, Isaac Newton, Arthur Schopenhauer, and Nikola Tesla went their own way.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 233
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)
Posted: 8/16/2017 10:17:14 AM
Probably every celebrity, political figure, historical figure men or women were GYOW. as when you go someone else's way you are just one of the crowd. it is not a crowd of men GTOW it is individual people who say I go my way. Any one who has to pick a group and join "said philosophy Of groups has ceased following Own way" so very oxymoronic philosophy. just saying. LOL Their Own is impossible unless it has do do with being a shareholder or board member or rule policy maker... too fricken funny. once you start following that is what you do not a leader of self any more. Good luck in your endeavors of being a group member and following tenets. it is getting funnier and funnier lol
 PopCultureGeek
Joined: 11/27/2016
Msg: 234
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Posted: 9/8/2017 5:50:35 PM
I hate, resent hunting or being the hunter, that's just how I am, that's why I joined MGTOW.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 235
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Posted: 9/10/2017 6:41:33 AM
hunt-prey-relationships??? hmm? Good for you!! Wise choice in sync with your perception!
 PopCultureGeek
Joined: 11/27/2016
Msg: 236
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Posted: 9/10/2017 7:15:58 AM
apparently you don't know what I mean, i'm speaking of my strong hatred and resentment towards the gender role that guys have to be the initiators, I've always felt that way about that gender role, social-norm.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 237
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Posted: 9/10/2017 9:55:57 AM
yes, viewing relationships in hunt prey mentality- is gender role perception. regardless as women hunting and preying to find "good partners " or men hunting and preying to find "good partners" both- very popular gender perceptions, and certain roles such as women "allowing" men to initiate, or a submissive role in any sexual preference do exist. Submissive roles and dominant roles are standard. The belief that someone must be ultimate final word, deciding this dynamic very early in partnerships is also very standard. There is much backlash in society as many changing, fluid roles are surfacing, regardless of, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, political, creed etc.Power dynamics are very well established- and choosing to abjure power or control creates problems. Often leaving participants, in these roles: established historically: confused and resentful:feeling of rock and a hard place. No win- yet believing one has to win or lose, in itself is a role of the power game: Pick your fence and hope on. You choose going your own male way, eliminating females role as equal contributors in relationships.. claim it as you did. Yes, resentment often arises for all when social norms are challenged. And yes, often movements are attempting to change status quo. hopefully, MGTOW support creates "positive effects" for all concerned. Let us hope it does not drive a deeper wedge or feed the warlike mentality between sexes, which too, is a social norm, and standard accepted condition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVxTuZlyEr4

The change in early divorce laws that historically protected men did change. Yet the laws are changing again, and will continue to change, as roles of breadwinner, caregiver power dynamics change. Men and women are now sharing many relationship tasks and responsibilities. And divorce is a 67 year young phenomenon in the 525 yrs since CC tripped over this continent, hence the European invasion of basically egalitarian society implementing E laws of marriage- property ownership, and fiscal value- as a result people no longer stay in a "bad" legal partnership. I see nothing problematic with this as an accepted choice. And the ability to change laws as we address the' "negative effects" of implementations come to fruition and are understood
There is a forum "Haters ..around us".. In relationships topic.. let me know if you can view anything past page 4 of forum??.. as I can't
 LGL1975
Joined: 6/7/2015
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:22:00 AM
MGTOW is controlled opposition.

The elite use ideologies like feminism and black life matters to divide people. So instead of people working together to overthrow a corrupt establishment they fight one another.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 239
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:55:46 AM
yes these are indeed ideologies but- men certainly can be feminist and join movement whites can certainly believe and join black life matter movements they are not deemed in principle or tenets exclusionary and actually welcome diversity not opposition ideologies, they are working within the functional structures to change discriminatory status quo not pitting one against the other as a team.. can i as a woman be considered to belong or is it even an appropriate tenet of group for me to be a member- as a controlled opposition it is exclusionary in nature and principle- while feminism and black lives matter are not exclusionary in nature principles or tenets.
 PopCultureGeek
Joined: 11/27/2016
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:08:25 AM
ya but c'mon, even though it's 2017 and humanity has made huge progression technologically, health-care wise, women still remain stubbornly passive when it comes to meeting men.
 PopCultureGeek
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Posted: 9/29/2017 3:49:10 PM
as long as men have to be the hunters, I will remain MGTOW
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 242
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Posted: 10/17/2017 9:27:08 PM
So I see a big issue is men divorcing and losing money. I think the bigger issue is not liking women. A guy could so easily protect his money with a prenup. Btw, women lose money in divorces also. I do believe if you're a stay-at-home mom where the husband agreed to that, you should be sharing what your husband made and saved.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 243
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Posted: 10/25/2017 7:51:08 AM

I think the bigger issue is not liking women.
so true

any relationship to be successful both parties need to be reciprocal. If your only basis for a relationship is on incomes/wealth and maintaining separateness-and finding value in $ only as your ultimate desire and protection-love and companionship can be evasive-

for those with such a mindset i suggest only having relationships with your economic superior and maintaining your independence in said relationship.

Then you will never fear an interest in your money-they are better off than you-they could care less about your comparative trickle, struggles and fear associated with your pitiful income and they need never contribute to assist you as you are not partners.. Anyone this concerned about losing a portion of their income really does not have it to lose. lol.

A little history lesson DOWRY's basing a woman's value on only what properties wealth/prestige and offspring she could add or produce for a family name.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 10/29/2017 8:01:26 PM
That would be great to date someone with the same income or more for guys that are scared women want them for their money, that they don't have anyway. I had a guy message me and say that he only sees broke women online. He's a homebody with no interests, so I don't know how that would really impact him since there's nothing to pay her way for. He was too funny as he was trying to see what my finances were.
 basilisk123
Joined: 12/17/2011
Msg: 245
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Posted: 10/29/2017 11:40:41 PM
I think many men become tired of the mental games some women pull on their minds. For example, just the other day a female coworker told me that she was messing with one of our fellow coworkers so that she can get her boyfriend to pay attention to her more. Then she was complaining later that the guy she was using would not leave her alone after she got what she wanted. That is some messed up stuff right there. Even though I am friends with all involved, I felt disgusted with the matter.

There are more than financial reasons why some guys give up on dating. Sometimes they run into women who repeatedly play head games with them, and they get too frustrated to ever try again.

I also find it very alarming if a partner who I haven't even met yet is concerned about how much money I make. All they need to know is I have a job, vehicle, and I can support myself, that's it.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 10/30/2017 12:26:37 AM
That's really childish of her. She sounds like an @hole.
 reason782
Joined: 1/28/2017
Msg: 247
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Posted: 10/30/2017 1:53:05 AM

The elite use ideologies like feminism and black life matters to divide people. So instead of people working together to overthrow a corrupt establishment they fight one another.


a persons own inner conflict causes them to cling to ideologies, identities, ideas, even if true, there should be no clinging of ideas.
 reason782
Joined: 1/28/2017
Msg: 248
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Posted: 10/30/2017 1:54:34 AM
there should be no clinging of ideas.

one could cling to the idea of 'there should be no clinging of ideas', but a state of no cling is possible once one lets go of conflict
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 10/30/2017 8:44:47 PM
People can be like sheep 🐑 and want to follow someone. They're more comfortable that way, even if it's not to their benefit. McD quoting how many burgers were sold encourages people to eat their burgers🍔 Same goes for the old cereal 🍲 commercial where the kid exclaims, Mikey liked it!
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 10/31/2017 1:35:37 AM

So I see a big issue is men divorcing and losing money.

Yeah, they lose a lot of money just with kids. One of my friends loses a lot of money, and she's married with other kids, too.

A guy could so easily protect his money with a prenup.

It's not so easy to get a gal to sign a prenup. :)

Btw, women lose money in divorces also. I do believe if you're a stay-at-home mom where the husband agreed to that, you should be sharing what your husband made and saved.

Women can lose money in them, but when they're a stay-at-home mom they don't. They gain $$ much of the time. Obviously there's wacky situations out there. But if you're going to get full custody of the kid, no, you shouldn't take half of what he makes. She doesn't have to be a stay-at-home mom-only post-divorce; that shouldn't be assumed. Some guys pay out the arse with their salaries post-divorce because of kids. It can get quite insane. Like basketball players having to dole out Tons of $$, way more than needed for merely raising kids. Other women are willing to have as much custody and their way with the kids as possible and not want to get any $$ from average Joe and begrudingly be generally OK with it. Situations vary a lot.

For example, just the other day a female coworker told me that she was messing with one of our fellow coworkers so that she can get her boyfriend to pay attention to her more.

That's nuts! Crazy gal. I'd go off on her - lol.

Even though I am friends with all involved, I felt disgusted with the matter.

I'd sit her down with a drink and lay it out to her to connect the dots, if I were to consider myself to be a friend of hers in any way. I couldn't respect someone who's that warped & f'd up as a person like that.

There are more than financial reasons why some guys give up on dating. Sometimes they run into women who repeatedly play head games with them, and they get too frustrated to ever try again.

Yeah, but a lot of times you hear so-and-so was "playing head games with me" -- it's not like your first example there. Much of the time the gal (or guy's) head is just wishy-washy on attraction, and they're just frustrated about it -- and call it playing games with them... when in reality, if they didn't really like the gal all that much but she was an OK dating option, that wouldn't be how they'd see it or feel it.

I think gals run into that a lot Online, since there's far more guys than gals -- and some gals will get the faux impression that they're a better catch than they actually are. So they'll get dates more easily with such a tilted gender ratio -- and able to land a date or two with guys a bit out of their league, but, "WTH? They just play games with me!" Which, most of the time, they're just not that into you besides going out on a date or two with -- and you're sick of That (which anyone would).

So I would say in the same to guys who feel that way too much: Don't chase gals out of your league or are of a certain unique type that gets your attraction but when you think about it, has a higher % of oddness.
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