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 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Ah dear auld brum. That be your neck of the woods is it not missus? Now i have only been to brum twice. Although i will
own up to listening to my mates in lahndahn when i lived and worked there. They being londoners do not really like
anyone from anywhere else. And on the guzzle down bethnal green on a sunday manys the time i was told that brum was nearly
as bad as sahf o the rivah.

First time in brum was after a drink on a friday night after work when the suggestion of 'lets go to the F.A cup semi final at villa park to
see spurs v leicester' resulted in 3 of us waking up in new street station about 6 ish in the morning still in our working clothes.
I mind the bull ring was a bit shitty though.

Second time was when the hibees played villa pre season. 5 of us travelled by coach from london. 4 ****in hours it took us. Then
the polis were complete and utter tossers. Back to new street and got the shit kicked out of us by a mob of young black geezers outside
a mcdonalds. Into a pub with an irish name to clean up. It was villas lads boozer.

So i have to admit i find the place accursed.

But yep that was journalism worthy of hacks at the scunthorpe daily bugle. But...............
I wonder if the daftie read this article. It was reprinted in one of the weekend rags. So c'mon missus give us the hard sell and tell us why we should
COME TO BRUM

"I have just returned to London, where I have lived since I was 11. I have been away for four years, living as an ethnic minority in a monocultural part of the world, amassing a host of stories to tell to disbelieving friends. On the whole, I am glad to return. I shan't miss some locals' assumptions that, being a white woman, if I was outside after dark, as I occasionally was, usually to walk the few metres between my house and the church, I must be a prostitute eager to give them a blow job. I shan't miss the abuse my priest husband received: the daubing of "Dirty white dogs" in red paint on the church door, the barrage of stones thrown at him by children shouting "Satan". He was called a "f***ing white **stard" more than once, though, notably, never when in a cassock. I will also not miss the way our garden acted as the local rubbish dump, with items ranging from duvets and TV sets, to rats (dead or twitching) glued to cardboard strips, a popular local method of vermin control to stem the large numbers of them which scuttled between the rubbish piled in gardens and on pavements. Yes, I am very glad to have left Britain's second city."
http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/3650/full
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 13
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Posted: 1/12/2015 5:05:57 AM

@ Jo Van: You are not now, and have never been the only person who "gets it" about religon. Why do you insist on posting as if you are?

WB., BTW,
I don't "insist", but I don't post my views for the "benefit" of those who do "get it", I post for the vast majority, who still don't.
Paradoxically, I'm only "preaching to the converted"
I try to do so in a way that might make somebody investigate further, for themselves.

Particularly as the normal response to these kinds of atrocities, is for the various "faiths" to 'close ranks', and declare this to be the work of "extremists", and how the vast majority of believers don't act in this way.
That may be true.

BUT, as all of the instructions to kill "non-believers" come directly from "god", and still appear in the "sacred" books, including the bible, which apparently can't be changed, or edited, because they're supposedly the "word of god", I felt it was worth pointing this out.

Religions have been with us for so long, they have been accepted as "fact". 30% of our state schools are still "faith schools", and an even larger, and growing number of "private" "academies" have been set up to "teach" religious beliefs, to yet another generation.

People like Peter Hitchin still don't "get it".
I've seen him proselytising for the "christian" church, he's a big "believer" himself, and yet here he is, yet again, using words like "islamification". Like most xenophobes, he imagines "christianity" to be a very "English" thing.

The most vociferous advocates for the establishment and growth of islam, here, have been the christian churches and the 'establishment'..
The archbishops, and of course "prince Charlie", our future "monarch", who has stated his intent to change the title from "Defender of THE Faith", singular, to "Defender of Faith", -plural, to include ALL faith.
He likes the idea of "faith", because without it, there would presumably be no such thing as "the divine right of kings". etc.
It was PC who got personally involved in my town, to over-turn a council planning application refusal, for yet another "mosque", though it's been dubbed a "Center for Islamic Studies". Not that there's much difference with a minaret, and our many 'dreaming spires'. Current cost about £80 million (I think), and still climbing. It's not finished yet, it's only been about 8 years.

I don't think most people think about it enough, they just accept that "religion/faith is a good thing".
-And that (IMO) is part of the problem.
These idiots (terrorists/jihadis) don't see themselves as "extremists",
they see themselves as "the most devout", the most pious, or the most "good",
-because they are the only ones who are following "god's instructions", to the letter!

This is a great reference aid, for anyone who doesn't believe me:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/

As long as I live in a society dominated by religions, where, what can only be accurately described as primitive superstitious belief, has been "embraced" by the establishment, to the extent that we are still officially a "christian" state, and that state has established a "jewish state", (Israel) and a "muslim state" (Pakistan), I shall continue to take the piss.
Charlie Hebdot mocks ALL religions, not just islam,
I applaud that.
Je suis Charlie.
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 1/12/2015 11:39:26 AM
Ach maybe we should go back in time and resurect a time when you could imagine there's no heaven? It's easy if you try.
No even a hundred years ago we had religion free societys.
Oh where are you lenin/stalin and soviet russia? Come back that coolest of cats chairman meow and the cultural revolution.
And a longing for the day when pol pot called who he wanted 'a black kettle' in cambodia.

No vicars doing charitable acts, no catholic church doing what it did best. No rabbis waffling on about being gods chosen.
And no barking imams telling young gadgies if they want a shot on the swings with loads of wimmin then kill yourself.

If only those religion free utopias had been listened to. The poor fools in russia loved john leningrads songs imagine
voting it best song every year behing the seminal vinyl album Tractor Production in the Trans Caucasus by comrade
singer ivana fookoff.
If only the poor fools realised it mocked them in favour of 'god'.


"Imagine"

Imagine there's no politburo
It's easy if you try
No coal or salt mines below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the comrade peasants
Living for today...

Imagine there's no soviet satellite states
It isn't hard to do just don't say it out loud
Nothing to queue to buy for
And no nkvd too
Imagine all the workers of the world uniting
Living life in the gulag in spiritual peace...

Denounced because I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday your anti bourgeoisie anti kulak village will be deported and come
And the gulag will be as one

Imagine no possessions
It's easy living in the godless anti capatilist workers paradise
No need for greed or hunger in the parties new 5 year plan
A fraternal anti bourgeoisie brotherhood of man
Imagine all the party apparatchiks
Sharing all the world...

The secret police said I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday your collective gets denounced
And in the gulag we can die as one.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 1/13/2015 3:57:02 AM
DT - agree with everything you say but nope - very few of us embraced multi-culturalism. We were never allowed a vote on the EU and immigration. I don't know anyone in real life who wants this level of immigration.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 1/13/2015 9:26:27 AM
How can you disagree with my experiences? If my friends and acquaintances tell me something, in this case they don't want this level of immigration, then that is quite simply a fact. If you are suggesting that voting for successive political parties who have pretty much the same views means we are supporting that idea, it is simply because there has been no choice. Now that UKIP is on the scene there is some choice but it is a difficult one to make for many people. In reality we have been given no choice and are still being denied a voice on this. The idea that Cameron will honour his commitment to a referendum is just for the birds. So yes, sorry, but the UK will be Muslim in near history as will much of the rest of the world. Sad.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/16/2015 10:42:25 PM
So maya if what ye say be uneconomical with the truth then you will not catch VD in brum.
So to speak of course.

Now that american expert gadgie who talked of brum actually being brumistan and making
a bit of a div of himself i be reading the following.

"WHITE working class Brummies fear parts of their city have become no-go areas for them.

The shock claim has been made in a bombshell Government report into how poor white people feel about immigration.

The study has also revealed that hard-working white Brummies fear politicians have betrayed them in favour of refugees and single mothers."
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/the-area-of-birmingham-that-are-no-go-areas-for-white-237564

I have to admit to hee hawing a wee bit at the refugees/single mothers comparison. The article is about a place called castle vale.
Be there any truth in't article or is it a load of jackson pollocks?

You have to remember for every ozzy osborne there is a jasper carrot equivalent and brum IS guilty of some gawd (any religion welcome)
awful crimes against humanity. Well the uk anyway.

Crossroads.
I rest my case.

Although i do mind hearing that yonks ago birmingham city fans used to chant at rival fans 'you'r going home like sandy richardson'.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:10:45 PM
Oh and talking of so called 'no go' areas i was having a wee read the other night and found a couple of things.
I would think that a fair majority of muslims just want to get on with life. Earn some wages, look after the
family and basically just enjoy their time on the planet.

Up here in scotland we do not have the mass immigration that england encountered. Apart from pollockshields
where there is a sizeable pakistani muslim concentration. But looking around some of the small towns in the
north of englandshire they seem to me to be getting ghettoised. In parts of englandshire it seems integration
has just not worked. (Cue oxford calling oxford calling waffling about brits in spain but that is a non argument).

Multi racial and multi culti are two differant things as far as i am concerned. But how long until the near basket
case uk becomes the apparently full basket case that is sweden?

Personally mystic Vlad sees lots of trouble ahead. And it does seem to be heading to a final conflict between islam
and the rest of us.

"The Swedish police recently released a map of 55 areas where they publicly admit to having surrendered control to the criminal gangs. These areas have long had problems with mailmen, fire trucks and ambulances being attacked when trying to enter, which has led to them routinely requesting police escort.

These no-go zones are primarily so-called “exclusion areas” which is the politically correct term for the 186 ghettos that have sprung up around Sweden in the past two decades. These areas are predominantly populated by immigrants from muslim countries with low education and even lower employment rates.

Edit 2: Some readers have expressed disbelief that things really could be this bad in Sweden. Well, the ambulance union is now demanding military protection gear to enter these no-go zones. If the police releasing an official report isn’t enough, perhaps you will at least listen to the people having to work in these areas?"
http://swedenreport.org/2014/10/29/swedish-police-55-official-no-go-zones/

Now if only we had someone like iron erna. Although an elitist windbag has told norwegian women that it is their fault if muslim men rape them. Its how
they dress you see?

"The new Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg, known more affectionately as “Iron Erna” began a program which targets and deports immigrants who have ties to radical groups or have committed violent crimes while in Norway.
While many in the West suggest this is a racist move, it's worked in a dramatic fashion and with national, not racial, identification and violent crime figures have dropped dramatically.
“Oslo Local News” reports violent crime has decreased by 31 per cent after a record number of immigrants were deported by Norwegian authorities.

But not everyone in Norway is happy with the fall in violent crime. One academic, Dr Unni Wikan, Professor of Social Anthropology at the University of Oslo slammed the new policy saying:
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.” "
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 1/17/2015 2:19:36 AM
One of the problems with immigration is the lack of integration and I don't think for many immigrants who have a strong faith belief there is much option. I read somewhere that Muslims want / need to live close to a mosque so that they can pray 5 times a day - sounds a but like an excuse but plausible. Same for Sikhs and others I guess.
 GeordieColin
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Posted: 1/17/2015 5:07:44 PM
Was all of the motivation from these nutter radicals born out of the financial interests of the financial world wishing to muscle into the the prospects of muslim countries?
When I was about 8 I recall asking a family member what was it like working in the middle east.
He told me it was horrible the hostility that they met by being none Muslim and western. Oil interests in the middle east from outsiders has always been there. International control has only became a big issue over the last few decades.
Finance and oil.
It will only get worse.
We invited these outrages from the middle east and the extremist idiots are simply a product from that
 Marquis_de_Michaelmas
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Posted: 1/18/2015 6:31:27 AM
Cornwall Islamic Community Centre Truro; perhaps the allure of a MP's second home is diminishing in Cornwall?
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