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 mike11091
Joined: 8/25/2013
Msg: 176
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I don't think it's inhumane to keep a domesticated animal indoors.

They are...domesticated...they might have animal instincts, that's true, but releasing them into the wild would be more cruel.

Imagine a Labrador chasing a bobcat.

Being vilified for keeping a dog outside...well, that's just a matter of what type of dog you're dealing with.

Some breeds NEED to be outside, regardless, while other breeds should be kept in when it's cold. Either way, I've found that Outdoor dogs seem to always want in while Indoor dogs always seem to want out.
 BLonde^j^AngeL
Joined: 1/2/2015
Msg: 177
views on dogs living indoors
Posted: 1/29/2015 6:03:42 AM

You're darn tootin' that I control my cat's outdoor activities. I love him too much to let him risk becoming a flat cat. Smokey knows he can go out when on his leash and does quite well on it. Thor is different in that he was a stray that we took in. For the first year he wouldn't go outside. I joked that he was afraid we wouldn't let him back in. When he does venture out with my son or I he doesn't leave the yard. And BA is right, cats sleep a lot. Right now I'm researching to get better cast tree. Yeah, they lead horrible lives.


Thanks for sharing, I forgot to add, not only are there harnesses for cats BUT

there are strollers that are enclosed w/ mesh for cats & dogs
I'm thinking of getting one in the spring so I can take my cats (not all at once) for walks around the area & esp. the FiV+ ones, not have them get germs, or a dog jump on them, plus I get exercise pushing them around. If I find any of them to really like it, I'd even take them for long walks into town.

Coming into contact w/ various strangers while toting around a well-behaved, friendly cat can be an advertisement in a way for the local animal shelter & perhaps encourage another adoption.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 178
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Posted: 1/29/2015 6:14:21 AM

Some breeds NEED to be outside, regardless, while other breeds should be kept in when it's cold. Either way, I've found that Outdoor dogs seem to always want in while Indoor dogs always seem to want out.


An old friend of mine used to say that "Dogs just want to be on the OTHER side of the door!!!"

SO true!!!! LOL
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 179
views on dogs living indoors
Posted: 1/29/2015 6:22:29 AM
@ ApriLikesWhiteRosesOnly

Do you know what is a dog door?


doggy door generally refer to as a "Varmint Door" which means that there are more creatures coming through it than your dog, it doesn't mean that your dog isn't your prisoner, it only means that more animals like raccoons, possums, snakes or the occasional chupacabra have access to your home



@theforumfiend

You're darn tootin' that I control my cat's outdoor activities.


either that or you will begin to notice that squirrels, birds and small children are disappearing from the neighborhood, Cats are basically nothing more than little furry narcoleptic serial killers



@ Dee4166


As for all of those who find that just HORRIFYING, I just want to know how you feel about allowing cows and horses and chickens in the house? Those, too, are domesticated animals that have even LESS protection against the elements than the average dog does, yet I don't hear anyone here "defending" their "right" to be indoors????!!!!??? LOL


such questions generally tend to pop a pet owner into reality, that it's not about the pet in the house but more about the pet owner having control over other humans that dare to enter their domain ....when it comes to horses a pet owner probably wouldn't even allow "Mr Ed" into the house and he could talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU




@tickle_me_pank


First of all, the dogs aren't "locked in the house for the rest of their lives" so why the histrionics? Are you on your period this week? Secondly, based on your inane rhetoric I have to assume that you are either pretending to be stupid just to incite what you think is a "debate", or that you really are some kind of a socially challenged PETA freak. You do realize that dogs are incapable of managing the lives of humans.... right?

In either case, so far you've not said anything intelligent although you've had more than enough opportunity, so I'll not bother answering any more of your effete swill.

Enjoy having the last word though. Make sure it's something really nasty. I'm sure it will make you feel like a man again.


jeezzzz ......tickle me pank......so much hostility during a simple discussion, .....hostile uphappy humans generally breeds hostile and unhappy pets, and for help who is the pet going to call?...Ghostbusters?

just because humans can have pets, doesn't mean all humans should have them
 ApriLikesWhiteRosesOnly
Joined: 1/8/2015
Msg: 180
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:02:18 AM

just because humans can have pets, doesn't mean all humans should have them


AWESOME!... Finally I agree with you on something.!

AND... People who think like OP's boyfriend should NEVER be allowed to have pets.!

NOW I am done.! lol

Have a nice weekend.!
 ladyc4
Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 181
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:21:45 PM
the next step...
I LOVE IT!
When they were alive,( my DH and the cat)-the cat used to grap hold of his pantlegs and try to keep him from getting dressed. Once his shoes were on, the cat would latch on and try to kill his shoes.
Somehow or other, as many times as he attacked my ankles, that cat NEVER did when I was wearing nylons that would have been wrecked.
I have many good memories of dogs as well. I remember that my mom's Golden often spent time in "jail" for (accidental) child abuse and intentional tomato murder.
I remember wagging tails CLEARING the coffee table.
Thanks for the chuckle!
Cindy O
 SunshineGirl__
Joined: 10/7/2014
Msg: 182
views on dogs living indoors
Posted: 1/29/2015 2:12:22 PM

What, they didn't wash the plates, just let the dog lick them off?..

Or do animals leave germs on there that Soap & Water can't get off?

I don't think it's good for Dogs & Cats to be given Human Food, it's not the Right Diet for them, but still the Phobias some People carry around in their Heads..........


Hey, if you want to eat off plates that have been on the floor and licked off by a dog, go for it. Bon appetite! Since you’ve pretended to diagnose me because I won’t do it I would be willing to bet that you do.


Cats are basically nothing more than little furry narcoleptic serial killers


That’s funny! :D
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:48:08 PM
Good one next step.....LOL
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 184
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Posted: 1/30/2015 5:16:28 AM
@ApriLikesWhiteRosesOnly

AWESOME!... Finally I agree with you on something.!


cool...now let's all hold hands and sing "We are The World"

We Are The World
We Are The Children
meow meow arf arf meow meow meow meowwwwwwwwwww (sorry... I forgot the words)




AND... People who think like OP's boyfriend should NEVER be allowed to have pets.!


the OP's boyfriend's message was very clear .....once you allow animals to sleep in your home...it becomes a barn
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 185
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Posted: 1/30/2015 5:44:03 AM
I let my puppy lick off my plate - then I pop it back in my Mouth :)
Could not be with someone who just tolerated my 4 legged family ..
I work from home so no my lil creature is not locked up for hours, she has a social network, friends and a BF.
Damn she is doing better than some Humans!
Just don't get involved with an animal lover and expect them to change for you.
 DietFree
Joined: 11/1/2012
Msg: 186
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Posted: 1/30/2015 5:57:00 AM

I let my puppy lick off my plate - then I pop it back in my Mouth :)


Ewwwwww!!!
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 187
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Posted: 1/31/2015 6:37:17 PM
I hope all you dirt warriors are past rearing your children. But the Opie is not. The "dirt freak" she's thinking of settling down with would/could do enormous damage to her (his) children.


Early Exposure To Pets, Dirt & Germs Are Good For Babies

June 9, 2014 | by Janet Fang
Photo credit: Fotofolia via JHM Media

Babies who are exposed to animal dander, roach allergens, and household germs during their first year appear to have lower allergy and asthma risk, a new study shows.

You’re probably familiar with the hygiene hypothesis: Children who grow up in germ-free, too-clean environments develop hypersensitive immune systems. Previous work has shown that children growing up on farms, with regular exposure to microbes in soil, have lower allergy and asthma rates. Other studies, however, found increased risk among inner-city children who are exposed to high levels of roach and mouse allergens. So, what gives?

The Urban Environment and Childhood Asthma study examined a birth cohort of 560 children at high risk for asthma in Baltimore, Boston, New York, and St. Louis over three years. They measured allergen exposure and the bacterial content of house dust, and they monitored the infants for allergies and wheezing using physical exams and blood and skin-prick tests.

A team of researchers looking through these data found that infants who grew up in homes with****oach droppings and mouse and cat dander in their first year have lower rates of wheezing at age three, compared with infants who were unexposed to these allergens. Furthermore, exposure to all three allergens lowered risk more than exposure to just one or two.

About 40 percent of allergy-free, wheeze-free kids grew up in homes with the highest levels of allergens and the richest array of bacterial species. By contrast, only 8 percent of children who suffered from both symptoms had been exposed to those similar substances during their first year. Wheezing, in particular, was three times as common among children growing up without exposure.

The protective effects, however, disappear if infants encounter them after their first year. “The timing of initial exposure may be critical,” Robert Wood of Johns Hopkins Children’s Center says in a news release. “Not only are many of our immune responses shaped in the first year of life, but also that certain bacteria and allergens play an important role in stimulating and training the immune system to behave a certain way.”

The work was published in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology last week.



http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/early-exposure-pets-dirt-germs-are-good-babies
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
Msg: 188
views on dogs living indoors
Posted: 1/31/2015 6:47:10 PM
I've said this for years. Kids need to eat dirt, suck on a worm, play on dog poop to help build their immune system. My daughter inlaw would bleach her floors every night, I put a stop to that by telling her it was doing more harm than good. We never had all these allergies and asthma when I was a kid, or with my own kids.

As to the dogs, some are indoor dogs and some are outdoor. Both need to play with children.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 189
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:31:32 AM

and they can be a big comfort to the lonely.

They also work to triangulate a relationship when all else fails.

Still don't want one inside.
 Dan198508
Joined: 11/7/2014
Msg: 190
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:19:13 AM

CTRLvector ,
Wow, so much negativity.

I'M NOT AVERAGE. There's a reason I list physical activities in my profile, I like them, I do them, regularly, frequently. In a pinch, I could walk 10 to 15 miles, and I would be tired, but not in a great deal of pain.

You have no idea how much walking I do, and have done in my life. No, I don't take gear with me, ok?


CTRLvector got it half right, the thermometer won't read -10F in an unheated shelter, but it won't read -10F outside either. The only case where windchill lowers measured temperature is with wet bulb temperature where the water evaporates off the thermometer, taking further energy from it but in icy conditions thats not possible.
 bamagrl68
Joined: 11/14/2010
Msg: 191
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Posted: 2/2/2015 10:15:57 PM
Bluemoon24 7- Yes, they do, dogs are social animals, being kept outside with very little attention makes them aggressive. and I'm just going to say it, I think it cruel.
There are two clearly divided sides here-One in favor of having them inside, others out, but even if they are outside dogs they need attention, love and exercise.
I found a link with numbers that just don't lie.
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/chaining_tethering/facts/chaining_tethering_facts.html
If people want to keep their dogs outside, they need to make sure they have safe shelter, go outside and spend time with them, walk them, chaining up a dog should not be an option.
If you don't want to spend time with a pet, you shouldn't have one, period.
 rusticman54
Joined: 4/6/2015
Msg: 192
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Posted: 4/25/2015 11:08:34 AM
I avoid dating women with indoor pets. I've tried it, it never works out.
No Dogs In My Bed.
 purplerider1200
Joined: 9/10/2011
Msg: 193
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Posted: 4/25/2015 1:54:20 PM
My three live inside. Over the years of dealing with customers, the ones that have no critters are harder to deal with. (And more likely to NOT pay me.) I'd rather be around pet owners. They are more compassionate, and understanding. And adds a conversation point.
 newoldgirl
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 194
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Posted: 4/25/2015 4:31:54 PM

Is this a fundamental difference between two people, that makes them incompatible?


I think so, yes. Both parties think the other person should make the concession. They are both right, and yet they are both wrong.


Is she selfish/foolish for considering leaving the relationship?


Nope. He isn't foolish or selfish either. Lots of folks simply don't like animals in the house.


Neither person is willing to "give in" ....is this relationship at dead end?


IME, pets can be a VERY divisive subject. It's too bad the parties didn't think about this early in the relationship. Or perhaps they did, and each assumed the other would "cave".
 newoldgirl
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 195
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Posted: 4/25/2015 4:39:59 PM

' I'd rather be around pet owners. They are more compassionate, and understanding.


That is a commonly held belief particular to pet owners. It is also complete BS.

One pet lover actually told me that if you have never owned a dog, you have never known true love. WTF! What kind of person says that to someone who is a mother?
 SLAFFA
Joined: 8/13/2007
Msg: 196
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Posted: 4/25/2015 5:18:44 PM
Man's Best Friend?

TRUE!

And I find it ironic that men are often referred to as dogs and that only [?] women are referred to as being "catty".

If only more women had some of the qualities that "many" dogs possess...

I supposed most female dog lovers are likely to have the same opinion about men?
 purplerider1200
Joined: 9/10/2011
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Posted: 4/25/2015 6:05:17 PM
That is a commonly held belief particular to pet owners. It is also complete BS.
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Since my life experiences have shown me that, I'll stick to my own conclusions.
 63T
Joined: 5/28/2006
Msg: 198
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Posted: 4/25/2015 6:28:48 PM
Forumgirl519;

Is this a fundamental difference between two people, that makes them incompatible?

The situation with the dogs is not the cause of incompatibility but an object of his heightened anxiety. It is his anxiety that will require attention. He may have an overactive amygdala.

Is she selfish/foolish for considering leaving the relationship?

Both will need to recognize that he suffers from heightened anxiety surrounding his perception of "dirty" and "gross" and "disrespected". He is apprehensive at a perceived threat or fear that the dogs (living indoors) evoke. This may require third party intervention. If neither are unwilling or unable to prepare for this, then it may be prudent to consider other options.

Neither person is willing to "give in" ....is this relationship at dead end?

This is not entirely true. He did attempt to compromise. However, when his anxiety reached a very high level, he succumbed to the anxiety. This is counterproductive to overcoming anxiety and it only reinforces the avoidance behaviour, "he recently decided that her dog will NOT be allowed into his home, under any circumstance".

In order to resolve, he will need to elevate his level of anxiety and then stay with it until it subsides, naturally.
This will need to be repeated many times until his level of anxiety is tolerable or non-existent. May be very difficult to achieve without intervention (CBT) from a qualified therapist.

Hope this helps
 platypus_man
Joined: 8/29/2007
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Posted: 5/5/2015 1:12:23 PM
When I was a kid, we had a dog. A nice, friendly dog. Who generally stayed off the furniture, but we would catch her on the sofa when we came home sometimes. And I remember distinctly the smell of her feces on the pillow. You couldn't see it. But the smell was distinctive. Mom would also, on occasion, find the dog on the beds, too. Since then, I don't want a dog in the house. Say whatever you want. Animals will get their germs all over the place; remember they lick their a$$es. So whenever one licks you, you know what's on you. And if your dog is your buddy and is all over you? You're covered with it. Food for thought.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 200
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Posted: 5/5/2015 5:32:23 PM

My view on dogs living indoors? Fleas..........


On you or the dog? There is flea treatment available. If you found out you had bed bugs, would you sleep outside from that point on?
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