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 Orione7
Joined: 12/22/2014
Msg: 101
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Would it matter with the Isrealites?
They can go home to Europe... or to their beach homes in the USA.
 NotGorshkovAgain
Joined: 4/29/2009
Msg: 102
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:40:34 AM

Well I think Joes plan to push down to the canal makes more sense every day.There are many humanitarian reasons to do so.Factor in all the drug cartels and the fear and death they bring,the private armies murdering indigenous people in remote areas....set up a functioning democratic government coupled with an economic plan,the illegals would be good to go.:)

Absolutely - because everybody knows that unlike their southern brethern, Americans would NEVER grow coco plants just to make cocaine because it is so insanely profitable to sell it to other Americans ...... it's not like they're capitalists or anything.
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 103
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Posted: 1/25/2015 8:09:13 AM
I know that the Libs like to talk about the Congressional patriots always calling for repeal of Obama(doesn't)Care.

now the Patriots can ask the same question.

in his Chaos Of the Dis-Union speech why would Hussein talk about all these things he wants to do most notably the tax hikes when he doesn't have a snowballs chance to have any of his mass tax and spending bills passed????

why? revenge??? or simple IDIOCY?
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 104
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/25/2015 8:10:21 AM
@skoochie
OMG,the holacaust screams.Who said anything about displacing or murdering them?This is about people management.Have you talked to native central Americans?They live in fear of the ruling class.A caravan of speeding SUV's approaches....jgtf out of the way or you're dead.The whole area south of the Rio Grande needs proper democracy served up.Families could reunite....
@Gorshkov
Either taking control of the cocaine trade or striking a deal to control distribution would strip any possible terrorist funding efforts in that coke triangle.Some of those groups have extremist sympathies...
 NotGorshkovAgain
Joined: 4/29/2009
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:49:02 AM
@calguy:


Either taking control of the cocaine trade or striking a deal to control distribution would strip any possible terrorist funding efforts in that coke triangle.Some of those groups have extremist sympathies...

Much better the addictive, destructive drug trade (which kills a LOT more people than terrorists do) be in the hands of responsible, 'merican businessmen because THEN it's just like, good business and stuff. Right?
 nocrapzone
Joined: 1/10/2015
Msg: 106
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Posted: 1/25/2015 11:27:53 AM

Well I think Joes plan to push down to the canal makes more sense every day.


yes, you think it's such a good idea, I am sure you will be first in line to volunteer.. right?

here's your rifle..

ah, I see, you meant a "good idea" for OTHER PEOPLE's kids to go do it..
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 107
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Posted: 1/25/2015 3:23:17 PM
@skoochie
You're right he did say that,likely temporary to avoid loss of civilian life.Once order is reestablished civilians could be allowed back.Mexico city might have to be handled as a siege.The army,police and politicians would have to be combed through.
@Gorshkov
Take it away from the cartels.Tax it.Smart card with history for access.

Skoochie you are such a drama queen.The death toll could never be allowed to exceed the Holocaust.It wouldn't be right. :)
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 108
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:05:41 PM
noWITzone said:

probably TGIF COULD be elected President in the USA, after all they elected Ron Ray-gun twice


from Newsweek: Note President Ronald Reagan's position.

Sixty-five historians have brought their far-reaching perspective to the list of American presidents, and ranked them from best to worst.

Considering a litany of factors in 10 different categories ranging from economic management to crisis management, the list places Abraham Lincoln as the greatest U.S. leader. Lincoln placed in the top three in each of the top 10 categories. Presidents were given ratings of 1 (poor) to 10 (excellent).

After Lincoln, historians placed George Washington next, followed by back-to-back Roosevelts (Franklin D. Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt, respectively) and then Harry Truman.

Modern highlights include George W. Bush ranked #36 out of 42, Ronald Reagan coming in at #10, and William Jefferson Clinton placing at #15.

James Buchanan sits at the unenviable bottom.

Here's the entire list:


Abraham Lincoln: 1


George Washington: 2


Franklin D. Roosevelt: 3


Theodore Roosevelt: 4


Harry S. Truman: 5


John F. Kennedy: 6


Thomas Jefferson: 7


Dwight D. Eisenhower: 8


Woodrow Wilson: 9


Ronald Reagan: 10
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 109
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:39:46 PM

Now if only the Governor Walker of Wisconsin, a Republican would run as a candidate... imo the best choice for the GOP.
And his v/p, a Hispanic, as a running mate......imo would be a done deal to win. But Walker has decided not to run...

As for Hillary.....she has a good chance too, but for many who are not keen on that & it just might for many pick a Republican male instead.


^^^^^^^^what I posted on 01/19/15

Remember ............he will run ......& win in getting the GOP & America connected.... with all in who is belief in what is right, fair & just...
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 110
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:47:23 PM

Remember ............he will run ......& win in getting the GOP & America connected.... with all in who is belief in what is right, fair & just...


You think Walker is what is right and fair?


Gov. Scott Walker (R) to Hand Wisconsin Power Plants to Koch Industries? (Feb 23, 2011 - NBC)
By: HenryBloggit
Time 2:31

February 23, 2011. NBC Nightly News. Despite an "I'm with Walker" astroturf campaign, the truth about Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's union busting strategy was leaked today in a prank phone call. Also revealed, Charles & David Koch's plan to buy and privitize Wisconsin power plants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBD209nYHjM
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 111
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:58:23 AM

You think Walker is what is right and fair?


In the common good, yes....
As the democrats did a recall vote against Walker & they loss again when the all the votes were counted...

As I am a retired Teamster, receiving a modest traditional pension,who worked in the Private Sector, & Not in the Public Sector. Our Union worked with business & its Contracts, out together. [collective bargaining]
And now, after 40 years...... 75% of all those companies are still thriving in the business world, with Union workers.

As Walker had said in how the Union , those that worked in the Public Sector State jobs.... were not in line to continue at a loss , and they would have to adjust to concessions, lower wages & benefits. And I have to agree with that statement for government to function.

Imo, a large sector but not all of the Unions that work in the Public sector are out of touch with reality. And they should have adjusted but did not.
And on a side note......Walker did not bust the Union men & women who worked in the Police & Fire Departments in the State of WI. I applauded him for that.
Business is business, Union or no Union, but I always worked for "prevailing wages," and in what business or state can absorb...if not.... adjust to it or find another job that does.
As the US Federal government has laws here to protect the working class, as in wages, being vested,etc etc..
So with the demise of Union, [6% Private sector 6% in Public sector] those left, the working men & women still can seek help & represented them if need be there.


And as for privatizing, it is what it is & see how what cities & states go that route too.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 112
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:22:11 AM

In the common good, yes....


So a guy working on behalf of a billionaire to take over power plants and bust unions is good for the common good. It is almost like you didn't even bother to listen to the tape.

Either way it is clear you do not care about future generations,(other than of offspring of billionaires) you got yours so screw the rest and it is clear you only care if your team wins.

That said, turning your back on future union members is something you should be really proud of, that is if you where even in a union.




And as for privatizing, it is what it is & see how what cities & states go that route too.


Exactly, you got yours why even bother with the facts around what happens when your privatize power plants.
 Ainen
Joined: 6/27/2013
Msg: 113
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Posted: 1/27/2015 6:34:47 AM

You would also have to look past the fact he (Ron Paul) is a racist.


Cite. I'm not aware of any racism by Ron Paul, but wouldn't be surprised.

Paul is a RINO, so if you're not hung up on party affiliation, you might like some of his stances based on some of your posts where you and Paul seem to be on the same side.

Hitlery seems to be the most racist candidate. As a New York senator, she condoned racist behavior by NYPD and did nothing to investigate / stop / lessen it: shooting innocent African men with hundreds of bullets, torturing and killing Vietnam vets, chokeholds, "stop and frisk" which profiles black males and violates the 4th and 2nd Amendments.

Clinton, when asked about violations of the 4th and 2nd Amendments in Chicago, attacking black residents in the name of the so-called "War on Drugs", said smugly, "Try and stop me!" If anyone was actually trying to stop drugs, the Clintons should be their first target, given Bill's history as a druggie.

Hitlery is rabidly Zionist and would continue to give billions of US tax dollars to the evil empire IsFake. I believe Paul would send fewer dollars to evil empires.

I wouldn't call this incident racist, but her joke was bigoted and inappropriate. Referring to Gandhi, Hitlery said he worked at a gas station down the street. Of course her Democrat / feminist sycophants laughed at her "wit", proving her supporters are bigots. Of course the richest 1% upper caste Hindu nationalists of India (the people who hated and assassinated Gandhi) like Clinton for letting in millions of H-1B Brahmins (plus their huge families) into the USA every year to steal tech jobs from Americans.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 114
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:04:28 AM

Cite. I'm not aware of any racism by Ron Paul, but wouldn't be surprised.


Well if you are not aware, then you are uninformed.




Paul is a RINO, so if you're not hung up on party affiliation, you might like some of his stances based on some of your posts where you and Paul seem to be on the same side.


He does have some good ideas, but he is also a racist and in some respects a bit of a loon.




Hitlery seems to be the most racist candidate.


For starters, congratulation you win the Godwin's prize with that.




As a New York senator, she condoned racist behavior by NYPD and did nothing to investigate / stop / lessen it: shooting innocent African men with hundreds of bullets, torturing and killing Vietnam vets, chokeholds, "stop and frisk" which profiles black males and violates the 4th and 2nd Amendments.


But did you leave out the fact that she did nothing to stop the terrorists from killing the cartoonist at Charlie Hebdo?

Because if you are going to try to connect someone to something that they are not responsible for, you really should go full tilt on that.
 nocrapzone
Joined: 1/10/2015
Msg: 115
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:58:17 AM

shooting innocent African men with hundreds of bullets,


hundreds? have any links to even one actual incident?
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 116
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:09:33 AM
I also figure it coming down to yet another Clinton and Bush match, with a Clinton win. I would like to see Warren give it a shot, though...
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:55:44 PM
The cruz bill will shut down your Enviro protection regulations and it would require congress AND the president not to let environmental concerns trump jobs and it will fast track all exploration effectively killing your environmental laws that protect the water, air and all of us.

The GOP and Koch bros are all for poisoning our planet for profit, do you really want them to regulate themselves? Careful who you vote for.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 118
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:28:23 PM
Warren won't get the nod flyguy.The Jews will make sure their girl Hillary gets in.
 Olwhatzhisname
Joined: 11/18/2014
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:22:31 AM
Walker's Wisconsin dilemma is that he is governing a traditionally midwest Blue state, which accounts for its lackluster job growth. The GOP has barely had 2-3 years of control to throw off that Democratic job killing ball & chain.

Wisconsin is basically like back-home West Virginia....except Wisconsin switched a couple years sooner. Even though West Virginia still has a Democrat governor, it is just starting the journey out of its midwest Blue State chronic Democrat-induced depression cellar with a GOP controlled legislature & their first GOP US Senator in 80 years.
 Ainen
Joined: 6/27/2013
Msg: 120
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:44:10 AM

The GOP and Koch bros are all for poisoning our planet for profit, do you really want them to regulate themselves? Careful who you vote for.


Without question, the best President for the environment was Nixon. Of course his behavior was by no means typical of the GOP, and most Repugnants seem to consider him a traitor, but voting for the environment should be the choice of the lesser of the two evils regardless of party.

Nixon is responsible for the Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, Endangered Species Act and other necessary legislation. He also vetoed many bills that would have authorized dams and other environmental destruction.

Hillary has a long history of environmental abuse. In Arkansas she and Bill allowed huge amounts of poultry waste and other pollution to enter the White River.

Obama has been horrible for the environment. He appointed Salazar, who authorized shooting wolves from planes.

The recent pipeline spill into the Yellowstone River (not reported by most mainstream media) shows what happens whenever politicians of both parties allow pipelines and let corporations bypass environmental regulation.

The solution is not to use products that wreck the environment, for example plastic. When there is an oil spill anywhere in the world or babies being killed in oil producting nations, look in the mirror to see who is ultimately responsible.
 nocrapzone
Joined: 1/10/2015
Msg: 121
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Posted: 1/28/2015 10:23:11 AM
+

That does not seem consistent with free market laissez-faire capitalism.

thought you were a libertarian
 Olwhatzhisname
Joined: 11/18/2014
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Posted: 1/28/2015 12:23:07 PM
The Wisconsin Legislature was Democrat controlled during Walker's first term. Democrats cried like babies, gridlocked the system, & forced a recall vote against Walker. Democrats shat in their own bed, thus unwittingly handing the GOP a majority in the Wisconsin state House & Senate, but a GOP majority only since 2013.

The GOP has barely had 2 years of control to throw off that Democratic job killing ball & chain. They say you cant fix stupid, but Wisconsin voters think it CAN be fixed..
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 123
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Posted: 1/28/2015 4:33:31 PM
@skoochie
Last time the young phenom was annoited.People were ready for something really different.Not this time.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 124
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Posted: 1/28/2015 5:09:28 PM

Last time the young phenom was annoited.People were ready for something really different.Not this time.


So nothing new here kids, just a national health care plan and pulling a country out of a recession, so meh.
 Behind-Blue-Eyes_53
Joined: 12/19/2011
Msg: 125
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:06:58 PM

Skoochie:
I see what you're doing there. You're acting like Obama's campaign was weak and he just got in because he's a fresh face. It would surprise you that it was the two Republican campaigns against him that was to blame for him getting elected. He beat them with a campaign that the majority of American voters voted for. His face wasn't fresh the second time he beat the Republicans.


In the lifetime of anyone Posting in these Forums, which Presidents didn't get Elected to a 2nd Term, Other than Bush the 1st & Carter?
Bush lost because of read my lips, no new Taxes, then He raised Taxes..
Carter lost do to the Iran Hostage Crisis.........

Truman & LBJ took over mid-term & then Won another Term, they decided to not Run for another full Term, even though they could have....

We Americans have a long History of Reelecting the Sitting President...... So BHO winning His second Term is Normal for the USA.... He won His 1st Term as a Fresh New Face that Got the Youth Vote out.......
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