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 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 126
2016 guess.Page 6 of 8    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
Liberals have to be worried that they don't have a candidate to win in 2016. Clinton will be raked over the coals with her ineptness in foreign policy for starters. She is going to have to disagree with everything Obama has stood for(that's gonna be a hard trick) Going to be fun to see her argue AGAINST Obama's foreign policy, which she was a part of. 54% of America say that Obama has failed with his policies in the Middle East. Yes, the Democratic party will not win in 2016.
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 127
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/28/2015 10:56:40 PM
There are many Republicans that are going to run, very healthy for us to get many views and how they will handle issues. To say who someone would vote for right now is ridiculous. The issues will be contested and we will hear how republicans will be different then Obama and Clinton. I know democrats are distancing themselves from Obama so Hillary looks like a legit candidate but it is going to be very hard for her to distance herself from Obama. Look what happened in the midterms, people distanced themselves from Obama, yet they voted with his agendas. I have very good friends that know this and they are worried, but they have no one else to run. They know Hillary is going to be exposed so deeply, she will lose it and say "what does it matter"???? She and Billy, who like Nixon disgraced the office, should just keep making lots of money giving speeches and "hopefully" they can eat. I do hope there are more democrats who will run, it is a very good thing for our country to have diversity and in the end, vote for the person who we won't agree on everything, but we will feel that they are the best person to get us out of this mess Obama has created.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 128
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 4:30:54 AM
@skoochie
You are so infatuated with that woman.What does she stand for?Nobody knows.She receives good press....for?What I said earlier.
Once she actually has to say something concrete,then we shall see how the polls go.
Right now its just a fan club.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 129
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 4:59:39 AM

... but we will feel that they are the best person to get us out of this mess Obama has created.


Yeah, just look at the mess:

The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ5/pdf/PLAW-111publ5.pdf

Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/10/08/its-official-more-private-sector-jobs-created-in-2010-than-during-entire-bush-years/

Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
http://www.serve.gov/

Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008835-503544.html

Appointed first Latina to the US Supreme Court
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104648062

Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records

Signed financial reform law requiring lenders to verify applicants' credit history, income, and employment status
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008835-503544.html

Signed financial reform law prohibiting banks from engaging in proprietary trading (trading the bank's own money to turn a profit, often in conflict with their customers' interests)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008835-503544.html

Signed financial reform law allowing shareholders of publicly traded companies to vote on executive pay
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20008835-503544.html

Cut prescription drug cost for medicare recipients by 50%
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-4872&tab=summary

Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act
http://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/idea.html

Extended Benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/presidential-memorandum-extension-benefits-same-sex-domestic-partners-federal-emplo

Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in US history
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/26/obama-has-appointed-most-us-gay-officials/

etc..........


Yeah I cam totally see why you are mad, because when you look behind these and all the other things he has done, he does still appear to be a black man in the whitehouse.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 130
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 6:37:52 AM
@skoochie
2007?Wake up Rip,its 2015.I have no idea what she stands for.She did put out a little country ditty to reassure the white folks.
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 131
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 6:48:55 AM

The Wisconsin Legislature was Democrat controlled during Walker's first term. Democrats cried like babies, gridlocked the system, & forced a recall vote against Walker. Democrats shat in their own bed, thus unwittingly handing the GOP a majority in the Wisconsin state House & Senate, but a GOP majority only since 2013.


You know...the more I think about that, the more in how such a dramatic turn of events in what happen there between both parties......being a blue collar state.



The GOP has barely had 2 years of control to throw off that Democratic job killing ball & chain. They say you cant fix stupid, but Wisconsin voters think it CAN be fixed..


Yes they can.....like Truman said many years ago,"The Buck Stops here !" As it's a very hard pill for many to swallow...yet that's what it takes.... to rise up & for government to function, free enterprise, jobs & to get out of debt & solvent again.
As the old way of doing business did not.... as for the liberals, socialists, 'the Sky is Falling types' the save the World types & the ex hippies in Mad Town....you now will need to think twice.
And Walker also voted in the Bill that if you want Welfare , Food Stamps etc you first have to pass a Drug Test.... He also stop the 'free tuition ride' for said folks, aka professional students there....

Message:
^^Exaclty!!! The list of successes goes much further into the realm of economic success.


Yes... He also is the only President to sign a bill to give the VA 100% funding 2 years in a row. That has not happened in 50 years.
As for those who are the "Archie Bunker types"...... blaming others... why they can't be happy, the conspiracy types or not successful in life..wish them well & hope the will too....
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 132
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 7:03:25 AM

Yes they can.....like Truman said many years ago,"The Buck Stops here !" As it's a very hard pill for many to swallow...yet that's what it takes.... to rise up & for government to function, free enterprise, jobs & to get out of debt & solvent again.
As the old way of doing business did not.... as for the liberals, socialists, 'the Sky is Falling types' the save the World types & the ex hippies in Mad Town....you now will need to think twice.


Great point, because Kansas is sure showing the rest of the nation how well those tried and true trickle down economic principals are working.




And Walker also voted in the Bill that if you want Welfare , Food Stamps etc you first have to pass a Drug Test....


Yep, he voted for a bill that will cost tax payers millions and have no net benefit.

So if you support this, you have demonstrated yourself to be not very smart fiscally speaking or someone that think the Fourth Amendment is a joke.

Or maybe you just hate poor people and think they do not deserve the same rights as you.




He also stop the 'free tuition ride' for said folks, aka professional students there....


Yeah because the last thing people want, is poor people getting an education.
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 133
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 8:36:58 AM
Hillary, if she supports all of Obama's failures, will lose, a great time for republicans to show what they will do and how doing things different will propel our country into a safer, more prosperous, strong nation. A little less then two years and we can begin to get this country healthy. It's a shame what has happened in the last six years, but it is what it is, we have to correct it and in 2016 we will.
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 134
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 12:08:06 PM

Yeah because the last thing people want, is poor people getting an education.


Oh come on Frank......As god helps those who help themselves..... And what would Mother Theresa do with you guys ? ^^^^

And where the heck is, dame 'the sky is falling' rite at ? Must be out saving lives from those Republicans or pelicans..or is that in the South Pole ? carry on....
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 135
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 1:06:14 PM
Backed off on her? Hardly, she is definitely bad on foreign policy. People don't want Obama's agendas.
 Behind-Blue-Eyes_53
Joined: 12/19/2011
Msg: 136
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 2:30:59 PM

Skoochie:
So, it's your assertion that Obama was re-elected because he was the President? That hasn't been true for 25% of American Presidents.


Which does the Odds say is more likely to happen? 75% of the time the President is reelected....
Bill Clinton lost the House do to the AW Ban of 1994, & was elected to another Term....
BHO lost the House do to the ACA, & was elected to another Term......

In the last 70 years, two Presidents lost their Bid for another Term..... The Odds are in the Presidents Favor that They would be Elected to a 2nd Term....

In the Last 70 Years we have see-sawed back & forth.... The We elect a President from one Party for 2 Terms & then the other Party for 2 Terms..... This doesn't mean either Party has a Lock on the 2016 Elections, but the odds are in Favor of a Republican winning the 2016 Presidential Election.....
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 137
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 2:31:03 PM

Oh come on Frank......As god helps those who help themselves.....


Oh come on Bubba, you should stop believing in fairly tales, it is 2015 try and get with the times.




And what would Mother Theresa do with you guys ? ^^^^


Well seeing at Mother Theresa was nothing but a fraud, I could careless what some dead grifter thinks.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/09/27/mother-teresa-was-a-crook-and-a-fraud/




In related news, I see that Walker just cut $300M from its university system the day after he submitted a $220M proposal for a new sports arena.

Though I am sure it is all parts of gods plan and the wealth will trickle down and really what does the USA need educated people for.
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 138
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 3:53:48 PM

Well seeing at Mother Theresa was nothing but a fraud, I could careless what some dead grifter thinks.


Frank.....so you don't have a picture of her in your hallway ?



In related news, I see that Walker just cut $300M from its university system the day after he submitted a $220M proposal for a new sports arena.


Frank......if only they keep the Mil. Braves & Hank Arron from moving to Atlanta ...Or Lew Al. of the Bucks. to LA....for that matter.

As for all the out of state students going to WisMad.U. as now Mommie & Daddy now needs to look for other Universities to send them too. god bless .... maybe to Canada ? We can only hope !

Bye Frank & keep up the good work.... your friend bubba
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 139
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 7:30:11 PM
@skoochie
Yes Hillary should be pretty decent in a debate.Bibi will hand her the crib notes.You're friends of Israel but not servants.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 140
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/29/2015 9:53:57 PM
poster 158 says


Well seeing at Mother Theresa was nothing but a fraud,


So she was a "fraud/crook" because some knowledge nut blogger by the name of Morris M called her that?

Below is an excerpt from a poster in that "article" {for lack of a better term}, from which you might gain some insight.

"I read the article by Hitchens years ago and it still did not dimish my adoration for her. The reason for this is simple, she did that which most of us are not capable of - devote herself to helping the poorest. Calling her a crook is uncalled for. Yes, she did not make the best use of the money she received but neither did she go off to buy a fleet of private planes or take to slipping away from the missions for a weekend to lie on the beaches of Hawaii sipping margharitas. I like to think that she was just the woman I saw on television and in pictures. A humble nun who probably lacked the high mindedness and education to know how to best make use of the money thrust at her. Even her stand on abortion and contraceptives should have given people an idea as to her rigidness. This does not mean she was a bad person, simply ill informed and ignorant.

I doubt very much she had a solid understanding of half what Baby Doc was doing to his people. Your mortality figure means nothing given she was picking up the dying from the streets so they could at least have some comfort in their final
moments. I'm surprised the figure was not far higher than 40%. You do not have to be smart to be kind, but you still have to be extraordinary to give up your entire life to helping the poor like she did.

As you call her a crook and fraud Mr Morris M., perhaps you can help us better understand your argument by explaining how she profited."
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 141
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/30/2015 4:05:29 AM

As you call her a crook and fraud Mr Morris M., perhaps you can help us better understand your argument by explaining how she profited."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTN6_DSqfU

http://mic.com/articles/28746/mother-teresa-not-a-saint-new-study-suggests-she-was-a-fraud

http://heavy.com/news/2013/03/mother-teresa-fraud-report-calls-anything-but-a-saint/

https://celebsontheblock.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mother-teresa-troubled-saintor-pious-fraud/

https://celebsontheblock.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mother-teresa-troubled-saintor-pious-fraud/

etc

etc

ect
 NotGorshkovAgain
Joined: 4/29/2009
Msg: 142
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:43:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTN6_DSqfU

http://mic.com/articles/28746/mother-teresa-not-a-saint-new-study-suggests-she-was-a-fraud

http://heavy.com/news/2013/03/mother-teresa-fraud-report-calls-anything-but-a-saint/

https://celebsontheblock.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mother-teresa-troubled-saintor-pious-fraud/

https://celebsontheblock.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/mother-teresa-troubled-saintor-pious-fraud/

etc

etc

ect


First - you've got one of those links in there twice, which doesn't help. (celebsontheblock? REALLY?)
Second - looking at the dates of those links, it looks suspiciously like they are all reporting on the same, single report. Newsflash: Volume does NOT equal veracity. 15 people writing stories about a single report does not mean there is 15 times as much evidence. That's intelligence analysis 101.

I'm not going to bother playing your stupid games, HFX. Cut the bullkaka, and post a link to the ORIGINAL report (or reports, if they exist) and I'll be willing to look at it. But I'm not going to fall for another one of your fishing expeditions.
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 143
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/30/2015 2:30:05 PM
MITT IS OUT! he's not running.

the field is wide open now.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 144
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/30/2015 2:51:06 PM

I'm not going to bother playing your stupid games, HFX. Cut the bullkaka, and post a link to the ORIGINAL report (or reports, if they exist) and I'll be willing to look at it. But I'm not going to fall for another one of your fishing expeditions.


Great then don't, but anyone can find out she was nothing more than a front man for a money laundering operation. 10's of millions of rolled in and very little was ever accounted for.

Her so-called hospitals where nothing more than places where people died in agony with little to no actually medical treatment.


Former Catholic Sister Says Even Mother Teresa Is a Fraud
According to Susan Shields, Mother Teresa 'harmed her helpers as well as those they helped.'
By Greg Szymanski
June 6, 2007
http://arcticbeacon.com/articles/6-Jun-2007.html

If is a first hand account is not enough, then this should keep you busy for a while.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mother+teresa+was+a+fraud
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 145
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/30/2015 6:15:47 PM
Mitt is out because he has realized that Jeb can do wonders.And apparently has deep pockets behind him.And he's clean.Something Hillary can only dream about.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 146
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/30/2015 9:31:53 PM
posting 165

The links to the above blogs as sources of facts are feeble, to say the least.

Szymanski's article is the only one that has any kind of weight.
But this account from the former nun is still not compelling enough to indict MT for pre-meditated corruption/fraud.

By this story, its obvious that MT genuinely felt she was indeed carrying out her undertakings as God would have prescribed for her to do (however twisted was her interpretation). Moreover, based on the testimony provided [assuming we can call it that]; MT was adhering to the types of imperatives that are not unusual for ascetic orders such as hers; and naturally, they are somewhat extreme.

The more important questions that are begged to be asked is: was the RCC's role in all of this?
Did they not know that she was not capable of handling or distributing the proceeds?
Did they "command" her to turn over said monies to the Vatican and kept in escrow?
Did they allow her a 'free hand' merely to use her as a "marketing tool" for the RCC's agrandizement?

My point is that they could have easily intervened and put a stop to these alleged abuses taking place if they so wanted to!

In short, I don't feel that MT purposely carried out her missionary work with malice or other ill-intent; as one would still be obliged to show how she personally profited and thrived by hoarding/sequestering all this donated money.

But, I do think that she was quite misguided by her extreme views, and thus she did not have the proper judgment that would have been needed for her to carry out her mission as effectively/successfully as she could have.
***********************************

posting #166


Jeb can do wonders.


Yep, we've seen what a couple of Bushes have done; now lets go for a 3rd!


And he's clean.


Oh yes, like a freshly minted penny
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 147
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/31/2015 5:58:51 AM

The links to the above blogs as sources of facts are feeble, to say the least



links and articles in newpapers online, blogs and other forms of "evidence" are now dubious as well as some government statistics. the reason is because everyone is biased now.

in my day, the news was mostly fact finding and we had Edward R. Murrow, Chet and David, Uncle Walter and three news channels.

now everyone is on a side. we are a nation evenly divided.

therefore, all links as "proof" is nonsense.

the only thing that matters now is your opinion and the perception of reality.

my perception is that America is in a recession, we are in deep dark waters and is foundering.

you know how I know that? because I lived through America when it was truly America.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 148
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/31/2015 6:03:19 AM

In short, I don't feel that MT purposely carried out her missionary work with malice or other ill-intent; as one would still be obliged to show how she personally profited and thrived by hoarding/sequestering all this donated money.


Well she received the best medical care in the best hospitals, flew all over the world on private jets, but as a catholic she profited by getting the biggest prize a female can get from the club, she was made a saint.

Becoming a saint for some catholics is worth more than anything else.
 Orione7
Joined: 12/22/2014
Msg: 149
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/31/2015 6:03:52 AM
Thought maybe its karma... the floundering, for all you've done around the world.
Truly America... when people knew their place.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 150
2016 guess.
Posted: 1/31/2015 6:38:35 AM
@Yule
I am certain Jeb has learned a few things observing daddy and big brother in office.He released all his email correspondence to reassure supporters and backers.His wife will be an asset.

A few years have gone by since billy boy left office,more records are available to be scrutinized.... Wonder what kind of dirt will surface about Hillary and billy....should be good. :)


Edit
This time around maybe a woman will surface again....:)
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