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 Blackwood85
Joined: 5/20/2013
Msg: 376
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Paying for a BLOW JOBPage 16 of 73    (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42)


Money is all relative, for some with enough of it. Guess you haven't had one.

I've had both 500 dollars and enough head to know that it isn't worth 500 dollars. Sex is relative, I guess you don't get any.


Agreed.

I've had some damn good blowjobs in my lifetime and none of them were worth 500 bucks, that may not be a lot to some people but 500 dollars is still 500 dollars that can be used for bills or for groceries or just extra spending money. That's a new game system, some video games that's gas in my car, an oil change. I can go to a bar/club get drunk and have a one night stand along with a blowjob for free. Hell I should be paid for the use of my tongue, it's get tiring being down there for awhile especially when I'm prone to muscle spasms. I should be paid for time and labor.
 Zuglo65
Joined: 4/19/2012
Msg: 377
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:45:41 AM

His answer - he didn't ask me out, he asked if I wanted to see him. In other words, hang out at my house.

Did he actually said that? If yes, I agree with you. If not, than I have to wonder what is soooo wrong meeting at the park or somewhere similar?
But of course if he can't even afford a coffee, he really should just stay home.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 378
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:54:58 AM
Wow!!!
Very enlightening that there's so much prostitution going on on today's marriages...

Now I REALLY feel like I'm missing out....

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all seriousness, I don't ever want to be in ANY relationship with someone where I am "bargaining" sex for money/goods...wtf????

If I was going to do that, then I would have become a high paid escort in my 20's and would probably be warming myself in the brilliant sun in my villa in Greece right now...rather than freezing my ASS of here in good old Montreal....lol

So glad that all of the work I have done for equal rights for women has resulted in THAT....

Just...wow!!!
 Never_in_Life
Joined: 1/13/2015
Msg: 379
Paying for dee to lighten up a bit.
Posted: 2/15/2015 7:55:00 AM

Changing the title is so tenth grade.

I agree. It's ridiculously immature and has no place in a forum where serious discourse is paramount.
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 380
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 8:04:18 AM

It takes 2 people to build a good sex life. And build is the operative word.


And also... if to build because of money & control.... is the only operative then methinks , if one still lives in that mind set, best of luck cuz you’ll need it. Or b&m here...as we get it in your m o.

Imo & in the quality of life experiences, in very good & not so good, depending what you think is... there are those your feel good about being with another and naturally feel the same way too..... besides wanting to jump their bones cuz you paid for lunch...or were you thinking it a sex date ? Like your were in some 3rd world country....^^^^

And if you date & don’t feel any chemistry besides wanting sex right at the get go, then to each your own in that mind-set...whether your just in it for the short term affair... in one’s level's of involvement. And what they prefer in their partners,friends, etc..I get that too.... like other's have noticed & replied here as well....carry on...
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 381
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 8:38:15 AM
Paying while dating, about 90% of the time I have paid 100%.

For me it's more about being equitable. In the end, it's about how reasonable someone is about what they want to do together. So as long as my companion was being reasonable, it never bothered me.

Most of the time I was earning 2-5 times the money of the person I was dating. If you look at disposable income, that meant I had 10-15 TIMES the money they had available to spend.

So it would not only make no sense it seemed downright hateful to push someone I liked to spend what little money they had to go to a place I wanted. And the age I grew up in, men paid for dating, so it feels normal to me.

I have dated women that made comparable money, the last time was in 2010. Sharing costs me more money that it did when I paid 100% of everything. Because that woman had very expense tastes. Sharing 1/2 of a $240 hotel is going to more than 100% of a $70 hotel. Multiple that times everything, like a dinner cruise on Lake Michigan can cost $300 for two.

Here is a video of the Turbojet Hydrofoil Ferry to Macau China from Hong Kong we took in 2010 with that woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86HrvaUNCJg

It's fun to do, but it starts getting expense even when you are sharing the costs. So I think it's more about consideration for the person you are with.
 JoeBnD
Joined: 3/23/2012
Msg: 382
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 8:56:10 AM
I didn't see this until just now:

You've been bad, so here's the scoop. All you get is snowman poop!

Ha Ha! Snowing here so I think it's coming your way. But since your a sport! *big kiss*

Happy Valentine's Day! <3

As Always,
Le Pew


Nope, no snow here. Just 50 degree weather. I am going up to the resort today for about a half-day (not too motivated) to ski on the 15 remaining inches. Damn northeast stole all of our snow!


PS: In case you thought I was kidding - https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/1553407_643805002432778_1028794376791776133_o.jpg
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 383
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 9:07:17 AM

Having just returned from Target....I have to say...seeing those "sad sacks" nervously deliberating the plethora of inexpensive tokens....always fills my heart with hope.
Could be because I have learned that love can never be expressed in monetary terms....a token is just that...
but the gift....is the love itself.


trying to avoid the seasonal centre isle of the local pharmacy (similar to a walgreens) where peeps were
snapping up chocolate, i turned right to deke down the card isle, what was i thinking, lolz

and there was the perfect hallmark moment, three men aged between 35 - 60 not grabbing the first card that looked ok and then escaping to the check out, newp, heads bent, each was intently reading the insides of the card they had chosen . .

gift schmift - like Walts, i prefer flower toes left in the dirt, what i did get was a 5 inch tall plastic Richard
Sherman with a removable helmut, legion of BOOM! Kj, indeed it is about the love itself
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 384
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Paying for Never in Life to stfu!!!
Posted: 2/15/2015 11:12:28 AM
Saw what you did there....ha...ha.....
 slowitalldown
Joined: 1/25/2013
Msg: 385
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Posted: 2/15/2015 11:13:05 AM

And also... if to build because of money & control.


That doesn't even make sense. You build a good sex life by building intimacy between two people- it all starts in the brain. And by being sensitive to your partner and finding out what really turns him/her on. And experimenting together. And being comfortable enough with each other that you can be open about your fantasies, etc.

A sex life built on money and control (unless its the kind of control which involves a safe word ;) ) is not a good sex life.
 norwegianguy123
Joined: 10/27/2014
Msg: 386
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 11:48:59 AM

So it would not only make no sense it seemed downright hateful to push someone I liked to spend what little money they had to go to a place I wanted.

There is that, very true. If you're picking out fancy expensive restaurants or other destinations, and she just works at a salon and raising a kid, yeah -- I understand. But that's your choice, and sure, given the conditions, of course you're going to pay for at least most of it. Of course, such places don't have to be one's choice, especially when it's just the first few dates in the pre-season of possibly Dating that person. It certainly can be a mutual choice, and to a bowling alley, and on that 2nd date she gets 1 round of pitchers during it (while you get one too).

And the age I grew up in, men paid for dating, so it feels normal to me.

I think it feels normal for many generations, under basic normal circumstances (dinner-bar, dinner-movie, dinner-my-place, bike ride-mini golf-ice-cream, etc). :) The forums are a way to say "Wait a sec -- maybe I've been too comfortable about this... I'll speak my mind here, not to a date."

I have dated women that made comparable money, the last time was in 2010. ... Sharing 1/2 of a $240 hotel is going to more than 100% of a $70 hotel. Multiple that times everything, like a dinner cruise on Lake Michigan can cost $300 for two.

Did you pretty much pay for everything though? Obviously if she worked at a salon raising a kid while making $26k a year, you would be... but if she's a successful business lady making some good dough, I would hope she would contribute there -- as you said about being comfortable from your generation of a guy always paying, it's because those types of gals hardly existed. :)
 Never_in_Life
Joined: 1/13/2015
Msg: 387
Wrong dee.
Posted: 2/15/2015 12:36:10 PM
I know you did...
 Blackwood85
Joined: 5/20/2013
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Wrong dee.
Posted: 2/15/2015 4:13:49 PM


I think it feels normal for many generations, under basic normal circumstances (dinner-bar, dinner-movie, dinner-my-place, bike ride-mini golf-ice-cream, etc). :) The forums are a way to say "Wait a sec -- maybe I've been too comfortable about this... I'll speak my mind here, not to a date."


^This pretty much sums it up. People tend to do a lot of things in regards to dating whether it works or not simply out of tradition whether it works or not doesn't matter, to hell with the results.
 TALL_IQ2
Joined: 12/22/2014
Msg: 389
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Posted: 2/15/2015 4:21:43 PM
["You build a good sex life by building intimacy between two people- it all starts in the brain. And by being sensitive to your partner and finding out what really turns him/her on. And experimenting together. And being comfortable enough with each other that you can be open about your fantasies, etc']

Is that all communicated well enough by the third date? Many people wish for that kind of meaningful intercourse...

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 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 390
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Posted: 2/15/2015 5:14:26 PM
"You build a good sex life by building intimacy between two people- it all starts in the brain. And by being sensitive to your partner and finding out what really turns him/her on. And experimenting together. And being comfortable enough with each other that you can be open about your fantasies, etc'----Is that all communicated well enough by the third date?"

>>>>If one turns a friend into a relationship, I could see this beginning in the initial dates. If one dates a stranger, but is really good at reading people by not burdening the whole works with their whiny little wants, that person can likely begin building a good sex life (well, actually, they began it by being a healthy-minded human being) soon enough.

and the rest...just have to be horny enough :)
 PenelopeLeChat
Joined: 7/29/2014
Msg: 391
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Posted: 2/15/2015 5:43:19 PM
JoeBnD

WHOA! You were NOT joking! How many inches do you usually have now. (bwahahaha)

Sorry but I did try to ask with a straight face!

LePew
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 392
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Posted: 2/15/2015 6:03:52 PM
Men spend money on what is important to them.
I expect you to spend money when we start dating.
We become a monogamous couple, things change.
Of course, even before monogamy I would cook for you or sew your split pants or have you over for a movie and a fancy dessert that I made or invite you to the symphony on my season tickets. But I m not pulling out my wallet. Sorry.
If you can't afford the concert and drinks, don't ask me out to a concert and drinks and the ask me to buy the drinks.
I am not compatible with most of you, it appears.
My friend told me to try a pay site. But I am a slow learner when it comes to giving people and things the benefit of the doubt
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 393
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Posted: 2/15/2015 6:14:42 PM

My friend told me to try a pay site.


Does that mean you would be willing to pay to look at guy's profiles (which are often the same people here) at whatever that costs per month, but it's up to the guy to pay for dates? Interesting.
 ClooneysTutor
Joined: 3/30/2014
Msg: 394
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Posted: 2/15/2015 6:51:02 PM
Deetristate,

Would you take your profile down while Mr Fantastic lives up to your expectations?

What if Mr Fantastic asked you to take your profile down after a 2nd date so he could get to know you better?

Would you call him desperate? Controlling?

See, the big elephant in the room is parallel daters.

Why should a man compete with other men, using his wallet?

Why should a woman put out faster to prove she likes a guy more then the other women he might be dating?

If dating is truly a competition and survival of the fittest? Well, this soldier ain't going broke proving anything.

Peace:)
 CuriousInDB
Joined: 7/12/2014
Msg: 395
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:03:15 PM
^^^I always wonder about this when you post about a woman taking a profile down after a second date. What is the reason?
Clooneystutor:



What if Mr Fantastic asked you to take your profile down after a 2nd date so he could get to know you better?

Would you call him desperate? Controlling?

Yes, I would consider a man controlling if he asked me to take my profile down, second date, any date. I don't date more than one man at a time. I don't think I'd call that man desperate, but I'd know he was insecure. I don't know why anyone would want to date someone if they had the initial impression that person was ... well, having her dates "compete with other men, using his wallet." Same as I don't date these guys when I know they're making 5 "first dates" a week.

How does taking a profile down have anything to do with "getting to know someone better"? I'm wondering if you take your profile down when you're seeing someone (and I'm pretty sure you're always seeing someone).

You know I like you; I just don't get it. Comes off as real insecure to me.

EDIT: Wonder what the shelf life is on Mr. Wonderfuls? I'm saying about 4-6 weeks.

Yeah, I just lost one of those guys a few months ago. Wanted to tell me where to go, who I could be friends with. Not comparing the two of you. No, he's just another POF nutbar (hope he's reading this, really) because he's been harassing me ever since. I had to call the law yesterday.

Oh, right. I don't care who pays for dinner or anything else.
 ClooneysTutor
Joined: 3/30/2014
Msg: 396
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:10:01 PM
^^^^
Ok. Leave the profile up and go Dutch after a couple of dates? Take turns perhaps?

That's fair too, right?

I like you too:)

Yes, I would take my profile down, which seems to be an arcane art on PoF?
 the_summerwind
Joined: 9/11/2014
Msg: 397
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Posted: 2/15/2015 7:47:43 PM
slow@

And also... if to build because of money & control.

That doesn't even make sense. You build a good sex life by building intimacy between two people- it all starts in the brain. And by being sensitive to your partner and finding out what really turns him/her on. And experimenting together. And being comfortable enough with each other that you can be open about your fantasies, etc.


I know that silly ! It was not meant to make sense... Mercy.......as that was just a opinion in those that think that.. yet there are those how will use their money & control to dictate the relationship to their advantage... understand ?



A sex life built on money and control (unless its the kind of control which involves a safe word ;) ) is not a good sex life.


Their ya go... now you get what I meant....carry on

PS Hey Carla, your looking prettier all the time....do you do house calls ?
 rockin-trucker82
Joined: 1/4/2014
Msg: 398
Paying for a date
Posted: 2/15/2015 7:54:04 PM

How does taking a profile down have anything to do with "getting to know someone better"? I'm wondering if you take your profile down when you're seeing someone (and I'm pretty sure you're always seeing someone).


It doesn't. But it shows a commitment to the willingness to get to know them better. They can be more sure that the next date they take you on is going to be your only date that day.

It's like the angle I keep trying to take. Why pay all this money for someone who's already got her next date planned? I'd happily pay for my girlfriend or potential girlfriend, every time, unless she wanted to pay... But for some reason, nobody here wants to pay attention to the part where you're two strangers meeting. Why should I pay for cloony's future girlfriend? Shouldn't I be paying for mine?

Maybe if more people were willing to focus on one person at a time, you don't even have to have a second date, just slow down and wait to see how that date goes before you start looking for your next one. Give that date an opportunity to succeed before going into it already planning on failure.
 TrustInKarma
Joined: 12/26/2014
Msg: 399
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Posted: 2/15/2015 8:04:48 PM
zuglo, he said "I didn't say I wanted to go out, I said I wanted to see you". Since he is in the military and lives in the barracks, that would only leave my place. I did suggest going for a walk and low-cost options, but he found fault with everything. And I had met him twice before, both were dates on which he didn't spend a dime, which was fine, but it I'm not even worth a happy meal or a $3 cup of coffee at Starbucks at this point, why bother to have this go on?
 TALL_IQ2
Joined: 12/22/2014
Msg: 400
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Posted: 2/15/2015 8:23:39 PM
["he said "I didn't say I wanted to go out, I said I wanted to see you". Since he is in the military and lives in the barracks, that would only leave my place. I did suggest going for a walk and low-cost options, but he found fault with everything. And I had met him twice before, both were dates on which he didn't spend a dime"]

Sounds like a modern man who doesn't have much time or money to waste with online multiple daters.
You asked what to do about him before, and some told you to go ahead and make his day, since he will likely go away overseas next deployment may be to Syria or Libya. Some of them may not come back from those.

You seem intrigued by his focus on you. Why not tell him YOU will pay for a Happy Meal??

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