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 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
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Pig - LMAOOOO


:)~


This isn't the 1900's or even the 1950's anymore.



Aw, come on. Don't you want to go to "The Hop" for a burger, then maybe the drive-in to do some "necking" in my car? Perhaps we could even go steady.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
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Posted: 5/22/2018 8:55:12 AM
ponyelvis wrote:
Don't worry, most of us wouldn't date you either, you're nothing special. Also, what if they guy is short on money himself? He's still supposed to just pay for you to have a meal or watch a movie? And then what if it's a first date and you never answer another call from him? He's supposed to just pay for you to go out when he's never going to see you again?

Here's the thing, princess... On POF, we're all strangers. If you're expecting to get the same treatment that we'd give our actual girlfriends, well, you're living in a fantasy. There's a huge difference between paying for someone that we're in an ongoing relationship with and paying for someone that we're probably never going to see again.

Want everything paid for you? Then try actually investing in trying to make a relationship happen. You expect the guy to cover the entire cost, but what are you bringing to the table? What's in it for him? And I'm not talking about sex. What does he actually gain from paying completely for your date when he doesn't even know that you're ever going to talk to him again, especially since that's become the norm in today's dating world?
Since it's been so long since I've "officially" dated, I guess I'm just way behind the times, but I really still don't get this sentiment...that seems to be so strong here.

First of all, a guy needs to vet his dates as much as possible and if there's a feeling that she's a "meal whore" then just move on. If you have a feeling she's out of your league, better keep that $ in your wallet. If you think you're gonna "never see her again," beforehand? Then don't go.

Second of all, just go on coffee dates up front to minimize the cost. If men still quibble about springing for a lousy Starbucks date on the first date or two, then they're f'n cheap, or have no money. Either way, you're probaby not worth another date.

And there are men who have the $, but argue "principle," whatever...fair enough, but for all of the above, while you are arguing these points, other men are paying for initial dates/meets and scooping up these women from under your nose.

And finally, then there are those men who attract women no matter what, that still have these sentiments, more power to ya, but you are in the minority and what works for you probably won't work for most men.

And if the woman volunteers to pay, or split....no problem. '

And yes, you are paying for the chance to chat with awoman you are attracted to, period. Otherwise you wouldn't be asking her out. Just because so many men seem to screw up this *audition* (and yes, it IS an audition) and get rejected... doesn't mean the woman is just using you to wine and dine her. I still believe the existence of true "meal whores" isn't that prevalent; most women probably find that not only going on dud dates, but rejecting men to be awkward and potentially stressful so why would they ask for that?

I personally would be glad to pay for a date, simply to enjoy good conversation of a woman I was attracted to, and to have a chance to sell myself. The only way I would feel gypped would be if she was a dud in the convo department.

I really don't get the "who pays" controversy.

The only way it makes sense to me is there are a fair amount of men who look at the womens' equality movement, and feel that with womens' "equality," they should be benefitting. Women should now be chasing THEM, and paying for dates with THEM. ...And they are resentful when that's not happening.

That may be theoretically true, but what they are not factoring in, is there are STILL plenty of men happy to do the chasin' and payin' and thus are getting probably more than their fair share of the women out there.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:08:26 AM

Aw, come on. Don't you want to go to "The Hop" for a burger, then maybe the drive-in to do some "necking" in my car? Perhaps we could even go steady.


Well, when you put it that way.
I wouldn't mind a little time hop.
hahahahaha!
 whiterose0
Joined: 2/3/2009
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Posted: 5/22/2018 10:33:27 AM

I have always offered to pay...I would say 98% refuse but they can't ever walk away...thinking I took advantage of them.

I have argued on here with women(mostly BA) that think it is owed to them just because they have the "magic V"...
Gawd...makes me cringe just typing that nonsense.


I know we've butted heads before, but I have to agree with you on this issue. I think we as ladies should always offer to contribute to the bill, even if the man asks us out. Yes, about 98% of men over age 60 will turn us down, but they still appreciate the offer.

It sends a strong message to men that we are gracious, not self-entitled, and don't take them for granted; that their companionship means just as much as ours. In addition, we have enough self-respect and class not to reduce our value as women to our private parts.
 Inicia
Joined: 4/12/2015
Msg: 1105
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Posted: 5/22/2018 11:45:54 AM
Auditions,(auditions are for a paid role not to pay someone for a possible lead role in their fantasy/fiction movie/play)chance to chat? https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tubes/shesabeauty.html wake up- GET OUT lol
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1106
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Posted: 5/22/2018 12:03:21 PM

I have argued on here with women(mostly BA) that think it is owed to them just because they have the "magic V"...


https://youtu.be/e4Cs3Pp7mYg

Men have fought for it...
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 1107
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Posted: 5/22/2018 3:36:26 PM

I know we've butted heads before, but I have to agree with you on this issue.

And that's alright....people don't have to agree on everything on here.
I am not here to change anyone else's mind...just express mine.

I have always been more than generous and have dated some quality men...and you're right.
They do appreciate a gal that pays her way.
I bought breakfast for a man friend...last time we met up and tomorrow he is buying lunch...even then I will probably leave a good tip.
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 1108
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Posted: 5/22/2018 5:22:18 PM

Men have fought for it...


Do women like you really want to teach their sons that they have to fight for access to a vagina? That’s a very sad way to look at things. How about teaching your sons that if they just be themselves and see women as fellow human beings not to put on pedestals, they will find a woman who’s right for them.
 fullmoonguy2
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Posted: 5/22/2018 6:06:49 PM

tomorrow he is buying lunch...even then I will probably leave a good tip.


Even if you get poor service at the restaurant?
 _Rise_Above_This_
Joined: 1/14/2018
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:02:53 PM

Men have fought for it...

Blueberry pie?
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:30:58 PM
If you get bad service, you DEMAND to be taken to better restaurant!☺
 flowersinthelake
Joined: 5/11/2018
Msg: 1112
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Posted: 5/23/2018 3:02:43 AM
I would like you (anybody) to take an exercise on reality checks. The next time you consider 'offering' to pay your share of the bill for a meal your date is paying his 'share' for anyway, I want you to think about how much it costs you to get the groceries, the price of the groceries you cover 100%, the cooking fuel you'll use to make the meal, your effort, time, and time in setting up a romantic ambience, cooking for him, pleasing him with your culinary expertise and hosting skills, without a solitary dime from him, and ask yourself if going dutch or offering your share is worth it. There are accounting-related apps to help you figure that out.

If you're measuring your vag - value based half of a $60 dinner date, because you're afraid you'll have to give him a little fuqqi, it states something more about you than it does about the women who take relationships and companionships more seriously. Your view about men SUCKS. The problem is your lack of commitment and reverence for the value of relationships feminists of others kinds take very seriously.

The next time one of you goes on some self-righteous rant how "not self-entitled" you are, look at how you criticize other women for knowing their worth as whole human beings and teh rfact that they don't base their worth if they don't offer up to pay half. If they like the guy, that guy will stay in her life and the genoristy she provides will complement his -- it's called reciprocity.
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 1113
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Posted: 5/23/2018 3:07:09 AM
^^^ I’ve mentioned many times before that men are also capable of cooking for women, so that argument doesn’t hold up. If cook a woman a nice meal in my home, does that mean I’m entitled to a free dinner out?
going dutch, greecey men, and turkeys russia women to bed.
Posted: 5/23/2018 6:13:27 AM

does that mean I’m entitled to a free dinner out?

you are entitled to any entitlement you want to seek. You just aren't entitled to complain about the consequences of seeking those entitlements. You gave your laundry list earlier of the type of woman you seek, If she never appears, that's on you. Just like I'm entitled to expect a man to treat me with nothing but respect. To me, that doesn't include going dutch. I've never had a guy tell me we were going dutch, that would go over like a ton of bricks and most guys have too much pride to even suggest it. I'm prepared to live with the consequences of that decision because I don't date cheap pricks anyway.

Don't let me hear you complain again on here about how women won't date you. That's one of those consequences you will have to learn to live with. You want a date? Make yourself dateable. I live in the real world, and here, men pay for the dates. It's only on POF people argue that they don't. I spoke about the poll on my facebook page. That poll started because a woman[who has low self esteem] told me she was going on a lunch date and they were going dutch at his request. Every guy on there told her, "don't date a guy like that".
 browneyesboo
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Posted: 5/23/2018 7:25:43 AM

I would like you (anybody) to take an exercise on reality checks. The next time you consider 'offering' to pay your share of the bill for a meal your date is paying his 'share' for anyway, I want you to think about how much it costs you to get the groceries, the price of the groceries you cover 100%, the cooking fuel you'll use to make the meal, your effort, time, and time in setting up a romantic ambience, cooking for him, pleasing him with your culinary expertise and hosting skills, without a solitary dime from him, and ask yourself if going dutch or offering your share is worth it. There are accounting-related apps to help you figure that out.


Yeah. I don't get this. Who keeps track of this? Do you do this when you have friends over? How about family?
When I have someone over for dinner, I'm considering it something I want to do, it's not a business write off for me.

I suppose if they sleep over, I'll have to consider the time and effort it took me to buy sheets, make the bed, vacuum the dust bunnies,
clean the bathroom, dust my ditties and create a proper ambience.

And don't get me started if it's a cookout. Having to mow the lawn, buy lawn chairs, chase skeeters away.

I don't base my worth on anybody's standards.
If I were to "sell" myself, not sure anyone could afford me.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
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Posted: 5/23/2018 7:38:46 AM
LOL....Boo...read Flowers profile...She's either a Troll or selling herself to the highest bidder.
Remember the dark haired one...who went on and on about "cooking"....?



If I were to "sell" myself, not sure anyone could afford me

well said...


Even if you get poor service at the restaurant?

I have never not left a tip....
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 1117
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:00:18 AM
Somewhere, cooking at home for a woman doesn’t make me a cheap prick - it costs money, and I have to put in effort. I know why I have trouble dating. It’s because I’m on the autistic spectrum. Bullshit that it’s because I want to go Dutch. Surveys have shown that there are a lot of women out there who will split the bill, and many women on this forum have said likewise. The last coffee meet up I had she offered to pay for me. Money is not a big issue for every woman. My sister is dating a guy who lost his job and is now unemployed because he’s overqualified. She says that he doesn’t have to buy her love.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1118
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:11:34 AM
I am far from wealthy but have some income from 2 pensions...I am going to visit NY 4 the summer...I have a good, kind hearted friend in NY.

There is a drag show in NY we wanted to go to- I just spent $140 for BOTH our tickets (doesn't even include dinner) We r both hetero females, so we r not looking to get sex from eachother

Sometimes I spend $ on a friend/family member, sometimes I don't there are no strings attached, I don't b1tch/moan about it either

HOWEVER since 2005 i have read cheapskates b1tch & moan over the price of a cup of coffee & then in the same breath wonder why they don't get laid/get a relationship.

WTF is wrong w/ them?

I get some of the women here like to pay their own way, etc. & yes maybe they r older & sex is not a factor....

But for many years I have had all kinds of men hit on me/try to get sex, & sex only, not in the context of a relationship. Many have lied & pulled all kinds of stunts thinking I'd be dumb enough.

If I wanted to have sex only I would have done that from a man who was handsome/generous, I opted only in the context of a relationship.

Men who were in my age bracket during my entire dating life who wanted a relationship didn't do it whilst quibbling over the price of a cup of coffee.

I guess if I were older & just wanted companionship, it would work out like me & my friend in NY, today you get the $140 drag queen show tickets, 2morrow I will get lunch at the Culinary institute & no resentments.

I also understand that some are on a fixed income, or have alimony or child support & mortgages etc. yet funny how some men (& women) have restrictions & yet want a partner that is unrestricted ;0P

Refreshing to want to share within one's means or "do a mitzvah" is great- it's the constant b1tching & moaning men do about the cost of coffee or an inexpensive meal out (that even myself w/ my modest income & my spouses modest income) can afford- bec. after all we prioritize what & who is important to us. If a woman's "V" is so important that they (certain males) go on about it all the time, then they should act accordingly, if not they should STFU.

And once again, there is always Airforce Amy in Parumph, NV, or a free porn site & lube from the Dollar Tree.

I did not create anyone else's socio-economic situation, so I don'r care for it to be inflicted upon me anymore than i would inflict mine on them.

Now if my hub, relative or friend wants to do something nice 4 me or gift me, I can accept it w/ no strings attached- I can say yes or no. The same can go for dating.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1119
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:33:05 AM

you are entitled to any entitlement you want to seek. You just aren't entitled to complain about the consequences of seeking those entitlements. You gave your laundry list earlier of the type of woman you seek, If she never appears, that's on you. Just like I'm entitled to expect a man to treat me with nothing but respect. To me, that doesn't include going dutch. I've never had a guy tell me we were going dutch, that would go over like a ton of bricks and most guys have too much pride to even suggest it. I'm prepared to live with the consequences of that decision because I don't date cheap pricks anyway.

Don't let me hear you complain again on here about how women won't date you. That's one of those consequences you will have to learn to live with. You want a date? Make yourself dateable. I live in the real world, and here, men pay for the dates. It's only on POF people argue that they don't. I spoke about the poll on my facebook page. That poll started because a woman[who has low self esteem] told me she was going on a lunch date and they were going dutch at his request. Every guy on there told her, "don't date a guy like that".


All he wants is sex, not a relationship- if she brought it up & offered like some of the women in here say they do, he could have accepted it- but to demand it up front, sorry.

I am not demanding my friend who I am treating to the drag show do anything 4 me in return, if she does, I can accept.

Someone once told me "Accept, don't expect"

If all a man can do or wants to do is "Dutch" he should tell her ahead of time & as Strato says not complain about the consequences.
It's the lying/manipulations by PUA types that is despicable...
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 5/23/2018 9:24:58 AM

https://youtu.be/e4Cs3Pp7mYg

Men have fought for it...


Some men fight just for the fun of it.


What won't men fight over?
 whiterose0
Joined: 2/3/2009
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Posted: 5/23/2018 9:41:06 AM

But for many years I have had all kinds of men hit on me/try to get sex, & sex only, not in the context of a relationship. Many have lied & pulled all kinds of stunts thinking I'd be dumb enough.


I've never had any man treat me that way. I'm only speculating, but perhaps it's because you enjoy making vulgar references to men's and women's genitals, and you come across to these men as sexually uninhibited, and up for a roll in the hay?
IF U WANT A BARGAIN GO TO 14TH STREET
Posted: 5/23/2018 9:56:27 AM

I'm only speculating, but perhaps it's because you enjoy making vulgar references to men's and women's genitals, and you come across to these men as sexually uninhibited, and up for a roll in the hay?

I'm only speculating but I think It's because BA is a beautiful woman. If men have never tried to trick YOU into having sex perhaps they just didn't find you that attractive.
 whiterose0
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:08:08 AM
^^^^ I've never had any problem attracting quality men. I know plenty of women far more beautiful than BA that get treated with respect by men.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 1124
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:08:36 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder...It's the total package...that is important.
Man or Woman.
If you feel anyone tricked you into having "sex".....aren't you being a "whiner"...as much as those cheapskate men?
How undesirable to whine about something...you participated in.
Maybe....I took advantage of men for sex...now what?

Listen up....I don't date men that won't pay for a cup of coffee. It's not discussed ahead of time.
In fact, if he even suggests...women are users in his profile...I would not agree to meet him.
If I do meet him and he bashes his ex...he's not what I am looking for.
If a man thinks...paying for a meal will get him laid....he's delusional.

Second....when I meet them....they don't ask for my share...I offer.
I have met with wealthy men...who try to buy me and brag about their stuff...ugh!
I have met with handsome men...if they haven't got good morals/character...that's more important to me than looks/money.
I have married a poor man...lived with a poor man....been poor and I must add...Happy>

Plus...How dare you assume...sex isn't as important to someone if we offer to pay our own way.
And to bring up 'age'...and what is important to them because of it...is nonsense.

I have always been an independent woman...I had a bf once....that insisted on buying me things.
He bought a Sirius for my car and paid a year subscription.
Tickets to a weekend of a music fest...prime seating...etc....
Now...I didn't graciously accept these gifts...I paid him back because I couldn't be that person to use him for his money. If he was going to be long term...in my eyes...different matter.
He already suspected I wasn't that into him...money don't buy "love".

Soooooo.....I guess, you admire women like Melania.....what a life!
Couldn't pay me enough....
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1125
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:22:15 AM

I've never had any man treat me that way. I'm only speculating, but perhaps it's because you enjoy making vulgar references to men's and women's genitals, and you come across to these men as sexually uninhibited, and up for a roll in the hay?


How I post in the POF forums is no way an indicator of how I speak IRL, & the only recent reference I have made to "genitals" is "V" & oh I think I may have said VAGINA once- that is a part of one's body, just like an ear or elbow- those who have been in here 4 a while may notice I have very rarely in the past post in the sex forums & rarely do I discuss my "intimate" life, I may make hints. I've actually been called a prude or Victorian by various forum members over the years.

Ms. White Rose, just bec. it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it didn't happen to me INCLUDING when I was a regular church-go-er who was NOT ALONE w/ one man in the congregation for a second, even the Minister (to keep a lid on any possible gossip)

In my experience, the more pure/conservative a woman seems to be, the more the pervs/pua lust after them.

It's like a feather in their dirty old man cap...of course if you turn them down, then they get p1$$y

Actually I kind of resent a woman my mother's age comparing herself to me. I don't compare myself to any women 24 years younger than me, I understand their time of growing up was diff than mine & they are at a diff stage of life than me.


If men have never tried to trick YOU into having sex perhaps they just didn't find you that attractive.

I think Strat is correct, when I lost weight & colored my hair to cover the beginnings of gray, the pervs came out in full force- when I was younger & PG w/ my kids & heavier, no way.

If I posted some of my personal stories, I may come off as "bragadacious" so I won't. That & $4 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbux...

I get what you did w/ the church group but others may have construed it as you used a Christian Fellowship to trawl for a man, if anything ever happened to him or your relationship, will that group be so welcoming to you again?

That woman who invited everyone for lunch at her house, your way of repaying her hospitality was to act like a Jezebel & spirit away the 1 available man? How would you like it if someone said THAT about you? See how THAT works? You don't want to be judged, but you are a bit judgy yourself IMO (so are a few other in here)

Because men find me attractive I must be evil, easy, etc?
Are you still attending Bible Study? If so please read Susanna & the 2 judges! (? Book of Daniel)
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