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 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1126
IF U WANT A BARGAIN GO TO 14TH STREETPage 46 of 74    (34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74)

Soooooo.....I guess, you admire women like Melania.....what a life!

Hell no

Couldn't pay me enough....

glad that you turned down #45
your post just revealed your nasty green eyes that you have been doing for years on here...calling me Miss Kitty in the past, etc. basically saying I am a prostitute- not that there is anything wrong w/ THAT, IMO that's more honest than 2 bitter old biddies pretending to be something that they are not :0)
(of course, no names were mentioned)
IF U WANT A BARGAIN GO TO 14TH STREET
Posted: 5/23/2018 10:34:54 AM

I know plenty of women far more beautiful than BA that get treated with respect by men.

Says the woman who had to chase a man to get one and pay her own way to boot. I'm just not seeing any quality man in that. Dont hate BA Because men actually find her attractive enough to hit on.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1128
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:43:16 AM
^
Ty, if I pursued a man the way some of these women did, the men would think I was crazy. Sheesh what a 59 year old would do (I actually met current spouse over 3 years ago so i was 56) is drastically diff than what Rose did at 79

I find it quite hypocritical (& sadly typical of the women I used to meet at Church) that this woman brought up her Church Bible study then felt free to take some nasty shots at me.

Shouldn't Holier-Than-Thou have been the one to take the higher road?

also to add: I don't ALLOW myself to get treated disrespectfully. Just bec. some men try to be pervy, doesn't mean they were successful ;0P
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 1129
If you want a Gold Digger....lol
Posted: 5/23/2018 10:44:55 AM
You are delusional BA... the 2 old biddies you assume are jealous of you....have more class in their pinky than you can imagine. You can't fake it.
I don't need to pretend anything...my posts are who I am...in real life and on here.
I called you Miss Kitty because of your phoney hair pieces and your photo shopped pics.
But mainly because of you demeaning/bashing of other women.
I don't like it and I am tired of you being some bully on here...pretending to be a champion of women.
Done!
You are not either pretty/beautiful....you have a dark soul.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1130
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:49:52 AM
I don't use photoshop & yes I have extensions just like many other women- how does THAT affect you?

You don't like what you see as bullying, well neither do I like what I see as bullying!

I didn't start out by calling anyone Miss Kitty, you did. Now who is the bully?

Yes your comments speak for themself including the one about Melania.

I don't pretend to be a champion of women, but if someone tries to stick it to me, I will stick it right back...

If you are gonna dish it out be prepared to take it ;0P


you have a dark soul.
speak for yourself & the other anti-cht1st here :0P
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1131
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Posted: 5/23/2018 10:53:57 AM

Done!

Funny right after you typed in "done" you came back & added to your post, so now that makes you a liar as well ;0P

keep your promise & no longer address me!








n order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 whiterose0
Joined: 2/3/2009
Msg: 1132
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:05:03 AM

Ms. White Rose, just bec. it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it didn't happen to me INCLUDING when I was a regular church-go-er who was NOT ALONE w/ one man in the congregation for a second, even the Minister (to keep a lid on any possible gossip)


BA, I never implied you were not telling the truth about your experience. However, I do think you were the common denominator in your negative experiences with men. If it were just a few isolated incidents, I’d think nothing of it. Because it happened to you repeatedly, there’s something you were doing (or not doing) to encourage this disrespectful behavior from men.


Actually I kind of resent a woman my mother's age comparing herself to me. I don't compare myself to any women 24 years younger than me, I understand their time of growing up was diff than mine & they are at a diff stage of life than me.


You’re failing to understand that I was once your age. Yes, I started dating in a time before Women’s Liberation when women didn’t ask men out, but times have changed since then. It is now 2018, where it’s more socially acceptable for women to ask men out. I also resent your implication that because of my age, I am no longer interested in sex, and that is why I offer to pay my share.


I think Strat is correct, when I lost weight & colored my hair to cover the beginnings of gray, the pervs came out in full force- when I was younger & PG w/ my kids & heavier, no way.


Plenty of women color their hair, and it doesn't suddenly cause men to disrespect them. Now the weight issue is interesting, because I’ve observed the opposite of your experience. Some heavier women with low self-esteem complain that all men want from them is sex, because they’re perceived as easy targets. Yet, when these women lost weight, their self-esteem improved, and men were treating them more respectfully.
 2ufo
Joined: 12/25/2017
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:25:37 AM

...you have a dark soul.

Blackberry dark!
Or maybe razzleberry dark!

I think my soul is more of a Rainier cherry...

This gossip is horribly catty and far more fun than the debate about 'paying' and 'respect'.

I generally offer to pay and generally am nicely refused.
I don't accompany people who can't bother being respectful.
But, as usual, it's a personal call with the caveat of YMMV.

Society changes because people change it.
These are not the good old days and they never will be except in our memory.
I bet Neolithic people were looking back to Paleolithic times bemoaning the change of the world and how everything was changing for the worse.

Deal with the card you're dealt - date the guy who invites you and be ready to deal with a human being rather than some abstract theory in an either/or choice.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:26:34 AM
Well, now my day is ruined.
I've never had a bunch of men come on to me just looking for sex.
I've never had men disrespect me either.
I've been heavier, and was not disrespected then either.

It's a good thing I already know I'm super good looking, otherwise
I'd be thinking I'm not.
 2ufo
Joined: 12/25/2017
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:34:40 AM

I've never had men disrespect me either.

Good for you!
It probably means that the way you move and speak doesn't allow for disrespect.

However, if anyone does disrespect you...
simply look them slowly from foot to head, ask 'Really' in a soft, quizzical voice then walk away.
 fullmoonguy2
Joined: 6/14/2017
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:37:12 AM

I bet Neolithic people were looking back to Paleolithic times bemoaning the change of the world and how everything was changing for the worse.


Indeed.
People kept telling them to stand up straight now.
 CBGB77
Joined: 12/15/2017
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Posted: 5/23/2018 1:01:40 PM

Posted By: 2ufo on 5/23/2018 137 PM
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I bet Neolithic people were looking back to Paleolithic times bemoaning the change of the world and how everything was changing for the worse.


That's why they invented the Paleo Diet.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 1138
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Posted: 5/23/2018 1:12:42 PM
Of course I agree with Blonde. Women here don't understand men, like some of the men don't understand women.

Flowers was right on. Why on earth would a woman feel like she owes a man anything by going on a coffee date or anything else? That's crazy talk. Women have to stop thinking they're prostitutes, and that coffee is conceived of as currency. That's ludicrous. Perhaps these women are meeting anyone and everyone that contacts them and the men are doing the same, so everyone is being protective over what they think they have to offer, for the men it's money, and for the women, it's sex. If both parties didn't think so poorly of each other, dates would not be constructed this way.

If a guy thinks he needs to be whined and dined in return for taking someone on a date, perhaps he's the meal whore they like to speak about. No one owes anyone anything from paying for a date. It's an experience like everything else in life. Cheap men typically don't want to experience anything in life unless it's free. So when they want sex or a date, they fight paying for it. Really, I think it's fantastic that these men are showing their true feelings for women with their rhetoric. Unfortunately, women are being guilted to think they owe men something, and that offering their time, energy and money to make dinner isn't enough, when it takes far more effort to entertain them in their home.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 5/23/2018 1:21:07 PM
I don't understand how whether or not I pay or not pay for a date
is an indicator of how I feel about myself or whether or not I'm a prostitute.
I have my own money, why shouldn't I pay my way or offer to pay my way?
And why are men who appreciate the offer (and accept it) considered cheapskates?

Maybe I can add stupid to my list of talents.
And maybe I don't understand men.
But I do understand the men that I'm interested in, and we treat each other
with respect and refuse to keep scores and tallies about who spent what on who.

Again, if I'm going to put a price tag on what it would take for someone to buy me,
or my time, there would be few that could afford me.

Maybe the problem is not that some women (like myself apparently) set their standards
too low, but some women don't respect themselves (or men) enough to set a standard at all.
When did dating become a contest or a bidding war?
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
Msg: 1140
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Posted: 5/23/2018 1:23:09 PM

That's why they invented the Paleo Diet.


Yeabutt, who wants a diet that hails back to the time when
life expectancy was 30's?

Not me. I prefer the seefood diet.
I see food and I eat it.
Just not tons of it.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1141
no victim shaming please
Posted: 5/23/2018 2:18:01 PM

Of course I agree with Blonde. Women here don't understand men, like some of the men don't understand women.

Flowers was right on. Why on earth would a woman feel like she owes a man anything by going on a coffee date or anything else? That's crazy talk. Women have to stop thinking they're prostitutes, and that coffee is conceived of as currency. That's ludicrous. Perhaps these women are meeting anyone and everyone that contacts them and the men are doing the same, so everyone is being protective over what they think they have to offer, for the men it's money, and for the women, it's sex. If both parties didn't think so poorly of each other, dates would not be constructed this way.

If a guy thinks he needs to be whined and dined in return for taking someone on a date, perhaps he's the meal whore they like to speak about. No one owes anyone anything from paying for a date. It's an experience like everything else in life. Cheap men typically don't want to experience anything in life unless it's free. So when they want sex or a date, they fight paying for it.
Really, I think it's fantastic that these men are showing their true feelings for women with their rhetoric. Unfortunately, women are being guilted to think they owe men something, and that offering their time, energy and money to make dinner isn't enough, when it takes far more effort to entertain them in their home.


The bolded part in particular.



I don't understand how whether or not I pay or not pay for a date

I don't want to be mean to you Boo bec, I think your a good person, but it can be used as a screening tool. I once read a story you wrote & it made me wanna cry- about a person's who had a date for a wedding & he was not so nice. When any woman is kind-hearted & easy going, she does get more than her fair share of selfish men (emotionally, not just financially) so maybe at some point, when one uses a criteria of he needs to be UNselfish, it weeds them out?

I have to say for ALL WOMEN to shame them for any type of unwanted/unsolicited sexual harrassment, sexual assault, etc. is really not supportive of anyone.

A woman can be out w/ her kids, wearing a turtleneck & not making eye contact w/ anyone other than her kids & get her a$$ grabbed.
A woman can go on a date w/ no sexy outfit or suggestive talk or movements & still get unwanted advances. This stuff happens all the time maybe not to every woman but it does happen. All ages, races, sizes, shapes, etc.

I grew up in the NYC area, went to College in Brooklyn, rode the subways & worked in Manhattan for quite a few years- it was like being a walking target for every horndog during those years & the Subways were perfect 4 them.

The fact that some women in this thread tried to blame me for any unwanted attention I got speaks volumes about them.

I've know of children even who were molested, raped, had babies themself, adult women, there was even a nun who worked at a High School who was raped in a Convent whilst wearing a habit (nun's uniform) when I was a child.

Today's society, bec. of the net & all the free porn etc. I think implants ideas into men's heads, they see a blonde (or a brunetter or a redhead) & they act a little bit pervy, sometimes a lot pervy.

That is not the woman's fault.

These types of comments I saw that it must be my fault, how I dressed, moved, talked etc. is why many women & children are afraid to report rapes/assaults/sexual harassment.

Even if I wore a provocative outfit (i'm older so I don't) or had some extensions or makeup on, that gives no one a right to lie, hassle, cat call, touch, fondle , expose themself . I guess a 16 year old girl in 95 degree heat in a tank top & cut offs is asking for it?

Or the little 12 year old pre-pubescent girl in the ghetto who is repeatedly raped by her stepdad, gets thrown out by her mom when the mom finds out she is PG asked for it? (I overheard an interview in 1984 in the maternity ward after I had my 1st son, the social worker's office was next to my room) I saw the little girl after- a tiny flat chested child, no hips & she HAD A BABY her stepdad did it to her & used RELIGION AS AN EXCUSE- she couldn't even tell her mom, & the mom's response was to toss her minor 12 year old child out in the street?

I've been in public places w/ my husband, he has seen a few things too, men doing odd things & once he saw it he believed it, he does have a grown daughter 2 daughter in laws & 4 grand daughters.

So yes there are plenty of men out for sex only, sex as a sport, will view dating as a "game" just to get sex (if a woman says yes & both are truthful, fine, but if there are games played, not so much)

Those disingenuous men, the molesters, the rapists, the pervs, the whole gamut do ruin it for a nice man who wants a real relationship.
 whiterose0
Joined: 2/3/2009
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Posted: 5/23/2018 3:09:19 PM

I have to say for ALL WOMEN to shame them for any type of unwanted/unsolicited sexual harrassment, sexual assault, etc. is really not supportive of anyone.

A woman can be out w/ her kids, wearing a turtleneck & not making eye contact w/ anyone other than her kids & get her a$$ grabbed.
A woman can go on a date w/ no sexy outfit or suggestive talk or movements & still get unwanted advances. This stuff happens all the time maybe not to every woman but it does happen. All ages, races, sizes, shapes, etc.

I grew up in the NYC area, went to College in Brooklyn, rode the subways & worked in Manhattan for quite a few years- it was like being a walking target for every horndog during those years & the Subways were perfect 4 them.

The fact that some women in this thread tried to blame me for any unwanted attention I got speaks volumes about them.


The discussion was about men treating you disrespectfully in the dating realm and just wanting sex from you as opposed to a relationship. Now you're veering the conversation over to sexual harassment on the street. Those are two very different issues, and you know it. And I don't see you being very supportive of others in here either, unless they agree with your rules about never asking men out, and never offering to pay your share on dates.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 5/23/2018 3:26:28 PM
A woman can pay for a drink, and it will not preclude the guy from asking you to go back to his place, if that's the type of guy he is. In fact, he could see it as overt gesture by the woman to show she likes him and wants to take things further. To say paying gives you more of a feeling like you don't "owe" the guy anything, you never did owe him anything and you always had the right to fend off advances, if you're not interested. Click those ruby shoes together, because you have the power to control a date, no matter who pays.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1144
no victim shaming please
Posted: 5/23/2018 3:27:25 PM
^ at WHITE ROSE- it happens everywhere not just on dates in the past, men r pervs everywhere-dating non dates, in front of a partner, the minute he goes into a public restroom, etc.

On a date when I saw/heard the lies/fresh stuff, I made sure to end it fast.

I'm going to ignore you from here on in as I find you a bit of a hypocrite -I may be wrong but that is my opinion

Funny how you ignore the 12 yr old rape victim, the nun getting raped, etc.

You say I allowed men to treat me disrespectfully or inferred that

If I was in my early 20's riding the subway home from work in NYC, how is some man across the track looking at me & whipping out his man part my fault? How am I allowing that?

I cannot control young men/men/dirty old men

I do not know if you ever lived in NYC or worked or went to college there, etc.

Just keep on spinning your Gospel ;0P

to quote Whiskey River aka Miss Kitty Hater:

"done" :0D
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 5/23/2018 3:31:27 PM
A woman can pay for a drink, and it will not preclude the guy from asking you to go back to his place, if that's the type of guy he is. In fact, he could see it as overt gesture by the woman to show she likes him and wants to take things further. To say paying gives you more of a feeling like you don't "owe" the guy anything, you never did owe him anything and you always had the right to fend off advances, if you're not interested. Click those ruby shoes together, because you have the power to control a date, no matter who pays.

White rose, if a guy asks me out, he pays for it, just like I pay for dinner and things at my home for him. I'm not cheap, and don't like cheap men.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1146
Women paying for "D"
Posted: 5/23/2018 4:52:36 PM

it will not preclude the guy from asking you to go back to his place, if that's the type of guy he is. In fact, he could see it as overt gesture by the woman to show she likes him and wants to take things further.


NYer, I think you just hit on something...maybe such women are sexual predators/horny old bags & pay so they get some "D" for their "V"...
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 1147
Tall, blonde Dutch women are hot
Posted: 5/23/2018 5:40:37 PM
I dare not insult a woman by assuming in the 21st century that she can’t pay the cost of her own consumption. That would be sexism.
 Sweet_Danimal
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Posted: 5/23/2018 6:22:08 PM

I cannot control young men/men/dirty old men

It's not about control. Never was. People are who they are. It's about our own tolerance and ability to get along. We can decide to be offended by someone else, or realize we don't HAVE to give a damn. There's plenty of ways to NOT deal with people instead of fear or confront them.

I posted something on Facebook after a lady friend posted a typical passive-aggressive post-date statement about finding a guy that can protect and defend their girl instead of hurt them...
Being protective isn't a physical trait. A guy could be built like Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) and still wet themselves if confronted with a real threat. Guys don't have to be built and well-trained like full-time firemen to run into a burning building to save a dog. A lot of assumptions are made based on cheap decisions, and being below-average, I shouldn't have to go searching for trouble to prove I can be a hero. It's no different judging character. Swapping other attractive traits (build and confidence) for personality assumptions is done at your own peril, but people do it ALL the time. I probably would have trouble lifting a car off someone after a rollover accident - but I know CPR and some basic first aid, and stay aware of my surroundings well enough to get emergency crews to the correct location as quickly as possible. I also carry a first aid kit and fire extinguisher in my car.


Now you're veering the conversation over to sexual harassment on the street. Those are two very different issues, and you know it.


There's a REAL difference in being the victim of a bad dating interaction versus being a victim of random ignorance. A least in a bad dating relationship scenario, there's at least a two person interaction, an attempt to make it work. Being randomly attacked or ignored means there is no chance to prove good, bad, or otherwise. One has some degree of control - the other really doesn't. Yes, in places like New York there is a lot of complex and bizarre situations that are impossible to avoid - but grouping those abnormal random people into the same group of supposedly sane and professional sorts that are picked to date and THEN turn into douchebags on a date is really trying to fish for victim sympathy from all sides, and I won't do it. I'm just so tired of people crying 'victim' when their last five dates are practically cookie-cutouts of each other. You don't need a math degree to figure out the common denominator. It's not victim shaming if you can point out a PATTERN to that person of picking the same type of person that hurts on them, and making them face up to their own responsibility of getting into bad situations. Refusing to change, and expecting the world to change instead - gets you nowhere.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 1149
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Posted: 5/23/2018 6:39:19 PM
^
when were you ever an attractive blonde haired young woman? or a middle aged one or an almost senior one?

I haven't "dated" in years, I am remarried & slowed down on "dates" prior to remarriage

Men trying for sex since I was 14, some in dating context, some in perv street cat-calling, married men propositioning, sexual harassment, etc. All types from all walks of life.

I bet many of the women in here have encountered it plus more.

Getting into bad situations?

You mean going to work, Church, Supermarket, a friend's son's engagement party, even on a cruise ship (by the elevator) with my kids when younger & minding my own business, I could go on ad nauseum.

Bad situations.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 5/23/2018 6:43:31 PM
Holy Smokes Ladies - not sure I want to jump in the middle of this or not!!

Personally, I always feel inclined to offer to pay my half of the dinner bill on a first meet...
because I don't really consider it a "date"...
If he asks me to see me again...then yes, I expect him to pay.
If I ask him....then I expect to pay for both our dinners.

For me, as a woman, I can't preach equality if I don't live it.
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