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 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 351
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GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE 2015 TOLL OF GUN VIOLENCE
Total Number of Incidents: 3,104
Number of Deaths1: 957
Number of Injuries1: 1,539
Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured1: 33
Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured1: 155
Mass Shooting2: 18
Officer Involved Shooting2: 288
Home Invasion2: 158
Defensive Use2: 105
Accidental Shooting2:

Wow! In two days 40 people have been blown away, a further 52 injured and a further 8 children killed/injured in the Wild West.

2015 2nd Amendment Scoreboard

Tyrants overthrown by a well organised militia=ZERO

Citizens of the Wild West blown away=957

Why don't WE(Humanity) do something about this on going tragedy? However seeing as some posters have objected to my use of the word WE , I will have to now exclude the Wild WestFrom Humanity, as it is loathe to do anything about giving its citizens the right and tools to blow each other away.

BTW, I'm definitely Australian and I don't have to squat to pee.
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 352
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Posted: 1/28/2015 3:15:14 PM
Rob, no way that's correct. We have two home invasions this week already, one resident shot several times in an effort to make him tell them where the money was....all 60 some odd dollars they got.
The other the husband and wife beat and tied up while they ransacked the house.

4 armed robberies of conv. stores by armed gunmen.

I'm 65 miles from a metro area. And this is everyday. Not sure where you folks are living that it's not there "somewhere". You're certainly lucky.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 353
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Posted: 1/28/2015 4:43:45 PM
@bluemoon
Sorry you're insulted....this place is a giant fur pile at times:)But you and honky tonk women have made very similar statements.Something like if a guy is young enough to have come out of me he is too young to date me?And you said you've said it before...and honky tonk has....
Anyhoo that ready for prime time thread was quite aggressive wasn't it?
 gingerosity
Joined: 12/10/2011
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:21:20 AM
The last number was omitted in msg 368. For accuracy I'll post the whole table since there have been 51 casualties since it was posted 11 hours ago.

Total Number of Incidents: 3,179
Number of Deaths1: 980
Number of Injuries1: 1,567
Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured1: 33
Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured1: 160
Mass Shooting2: 18
Officer Involved Shooting2: 297
Home Invasion2: 160
Defensive Use2: 107
Accidental Shooting2: 153

1: Actual number of deaths and injuries
2: Number of INCIDENTS reported and verified
 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 355
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:52:27 PM

Some of these people are in fact wound tighter than a cheap Timex.They maintain multiple profiles is the problem with blue moon being the champ.
Robaustralia
Fire and ice
Honky Tonk woman
No buddies fools.
Little Robbie said we because he is a she and is a Canadian.


I see your Sock Puppet nocrapzone, got nuked.Did you shut the door behind you? I'm pretty sure blue moon is another one of your Sock Puppets as well

Here's a challenge for you.Here is my IP address 1.136.96.248, if you have the intelligence to track that(which I doubt) will prove I am in Australia.

Why don't you put your balls out in the wind and provide your IP address. I would bet the location would be no where near the location indicated on your profile.IP trackers of course are not 100 % accurate, however most at least give the state and country.

Are you and your Sock Puppets up to the challenge?
 NotGorshkovAgain
Joined: 4/29/2009
Msg: 356
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:30:43 PM

Here's a challenge for you.Here is my IP address 1.136.96.248, if you have the intelligence to track that(which I doubt) will prove I am in Australia

Since I am (as far as I know) the only techie in here, I'll confirm that said IP address is owned by Telstra, in Australia.

But to be fair - it proves that that IP address is in Australia. It does not establish that it is yours, or that you are.

BTW - being able to look up the owner of an IP address requires technical KNOWLEDGE, not intelligence.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 357
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:27:45 PM
The citizens of the United States of America are pleased to report that 318,935,192 of our firearms hurt nobody today.
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 358
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:55:30 PM
eric--you set your bar pretty low.


Country Guns per 100 Total Firearm-related Deaths per 100,000
United States 88.8 10.2
Switzerland 45.7 3.84
Finland 45.3 3.64
Sweden 31.6 1.47
Norway 31.3 1.78
France 31.2 3
Canada 30.8 2.44
Austria 30.4 2.94
Iceland 30.3 1.25
Germany 30.3 1.1
New Zealand 22.6 2.66
Greece 22.5 1.5
Belgium 17.2 2.43
Luxembourg 15.3 1.81
Australia 15 1.04
South Africa 12.7 9.41
Turkey 12.5 0.72
Denmark 12 1.45
Malta 11.9 2.16
Italy 11.9 1.28
Spain 10.4 0.63
Ireland 8.6 1.03
Portugal 8.5 1.77
Israel 7.3 1.86
United Kingdom 6.2 0.25
Netherlands 3.9 0.46
Japan 0.6 0.06


Japan has a record for any sane nation to aim for.
 midnite_icecream
Joined: 12/27/2014
Msg: 359
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:00:13 PM

Since I am (as far as I know) the only techie in here, I'll confirm that said IP address is owned by Telstra, in Australia.

But to be fair - it proves that that IP address is in Australia. It does not establish that it is yours, or that you are.

Like how you assumed you're the only techie here, his username and the tone and content of his post is enough for me to believe that the poster is more than likely to be from where he claims, Australia.
I've been accused of using aliases on another site in the past, which was totally false. Just made me think that people have too much time on their hands.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 360
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:13:10 PM
Humorous, lighthearted, and entertaining analysis of statistics given above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
 lyingcheat
Joined: 9/13/2009
Msg: 361
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:28:28 PM
It makes no difference where robaustralia is, that issue is just a diversion with an ad hominem flavour.
Presumably the diversion was launched because the figures he's posting make some posters uncomfortable, proving as they do, that an unregulated gun culture does not make a society 'safer' as is often claimed, but rather that an unregulated gun culture tends to endanger everyone in it.

Those that claim the USA is 'safer' overlook that 'safer' is a relative term and are clearly unable to specify what the US is 'safer' than. It's not 'safer' than Europe. It's not 'safer' than Australia. It is a bit 'safer' than Johannesburg though, and parts of the US are 'safer' than Guatemala.
But, unfortunately for the inhabitants, parts of it are as 'unsafe' as the worst nations on earth in terms of gun deaths. The figures don't lie.

Statistics can be manipulated but it's well known that 'death' statistics are fairly reliable, for obvious reasons. An ex-wife with holes in her is hard to explain away, likewise a perforated child, a suspiciously ventilated passer-by or non-moving pile of students in the corner of the cafeteria.

But many of the posters in here seem incapable of actually debating an issue, going by the floods of irrelevancies, unsupported claims, and discoursively dishonest diversions they introduce.

The poster who specialises in pithy Bumper-Sticker reasoning is my favourite. His claim that "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society" just totally cracked me up because it's so easy to contradict and demonstrate as a falsehood that it's clear no reasoning or reflection and no concern with logic, reality or truth interferes with his posting impulse.

Face it guys. Guns don't kill people, but people with guns do - and where you have a lot of guns and a lot of people with them, then a lot of people get killed.
Many of them by accident, or for no particular reason, or just because the person with the rapidly firing large capacity gun was careless, or angry, or upset.


Cool! While I was writing this he's posted another -


The citizens of the United States of America are pleased to report that 318,935,192 of our firearms hurt nobody today.


Which is presumably meant to imply that this large pulled-out-of-thin-air number of non-outcomes means there is not much to be concerned about. I wonder he feels about the fact that on the day a few loonies crashed two jumbo jets into a couple of buildings in the US there were 27,965,993 tall buildings that didn't get crashed into and 3,367,428 jumbo jets that did not get hijacked.
Not to mention that only 3000 or so people lost their lives while 320,000,000 or so didn't.

Therefore... what's all the fuss about? One wonders why the US civil aviation authority seems so concerned about such a tiny fraction of the aeronautical fleet being misused like that... and why don't people just focus on how many tall buildings didn't fall over instead of fussing over the two that did.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 362
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:26:02 PM

Posted by LyingCheat:
"...I wonder he feels about the fact that on the day a few loonies crashed two jumbo jets into a couple of buildings in the US there were 27,965,993 tall buildings that didn't get crashed into and 3,367,428 jumbo jets that did not get hijacked.
Not to mention that only 3000 or so people lost their lives while 320,000,000 or so didn't..."

Airplanes don't kill people. Crazed and radicalized Islamists do.
That is why decent, compassionate, and honorable people seek to bring them to reduce their ability to wage jihad.
Nobody sought to outlaw the tools used by the terrorists.

Buildings don't kill people. People who do everything in their power to topple buildings are who kill people.
One of the lessons learned is we needed to adapt and overcome the vicious people who seek to massacre innocents.
Buildings are now made stronger and more resistant. Nobody sought to outlaw tall buildings. We're more rational.

You have a clever, educated, and completely entertaining writing style.
It is a tragedy you are so completely on the wrong side of this freedom and U.S. Constitution topic.
 NotGorshkovAgain
Joined: 4/29/2009
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:28:34 PM

Like how you assumed you're the only techie here

I didn't assume anything. That's why I said, and I quote:

Since I am (as far as I know) the only techie in here.



his username and the tone and content of his post is enough for me to believe that the poster is more than likely to be from where he claims, Australia.
I've been accused of using aliases on another site in the past, which was totally false. Just made me think that people have too much time on their hands.

I have no doubt he is Australian. All I said was that posting an ozzie IP number doesn't prove where HE is, or where he is from.

Case in point:
My name is Gorshkov. I am Russian, and live in Russia. My IP number as I post this is 2.62.30.27. Now - what does any of that prove?

Hint: My name is not Gorshkov (it's Carter). I'm not Russian (I'm Canadian). I don't live in Russia (I'm in Kingston, Ontario). The IP number 2.62.30.27 is in a block owned by OJSC Rostelecom (true), that I just happened to pull out of my arse. (true)

So what I said, and ALL that I was saying - which is exactly true - is that posting an IP number is not proof of where you are, or where you're from. Please tell me where I was wrong?
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 364
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:38:53 PM

Please tell me where I was wrong?


They can't.

Your absolutely correct. I've worked enough internet fraud and had to utilize the techs at the servers in tracking down IP addresses.
 lyingcheat
Joined: 9/13/2009
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:53:01 PM



Airplanes don't kill people. Crazed and radicalized Islamists do.


A couple of "Crazed and radicalized Islamists" flying at 800kmph would have splattered on the outside of the building. The use of planes can't be ignored. And it hasn't been.


Nobody sought to outlaw the tools used by the terrorists.

So who is suggesting 'outlawing' guns? Do tell.
I've been talking about recognising the public safety problem and have suggested only that sensible regulation might mitigate it.
Along the way I've (as have others) produced figures to show there is a public safety problem. I've also mentioned other products (as have others) we regulate because they've been found to have some safety issue attached to them.
In the case of 'LawnDarts' - they just banned them and solved the problem that way. In the case of motor vehicle safety we continuously expend effort to make the product, and the way the product is used, safer for everyone. Because, obviously, only an idiot would suggest 'banning' cars. Or swimming pools, or planes, or tall buildings.



Which is all very interesting, but you have once again avoided the point of the post you were responding to. I only mentioned aeroplanes and tall buildings in response to your implied claim that because large numbers of guns are not used to any ill-effect then fussing over the few that are is... unnecessary? Pointless? Makes no sense?

It follows, using the same logic, that because a few loonies knocked over only a couple of buildings and killed some small number of people - when there were probably thousands of airplanes in the sky, millions of tall buildings that didn't get crashed into, and 320 million people who didn't get killed that day, then it's unnecessary for the civil aviation authority to put all those silly regulations in place hampering everyones airborne enjoyment.

This ^^^ is your logic. Tell me what's wrong with it, if you can. Tell me why your government and civil aviation authority have made a big fuss over almost nothing. Go on.
Because they were looking at the 'wrong' statistics do you think? If only they had you to help them hey?

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 robaustralia
Joined: 12/1/2014
Msg: 366
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Posted: 1/30/2015 2:54:11 AM

GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE 2015 TOLL OF GUN VIOLENCE
Total Number of Incidents: 3,265
Number of Deaths1: 1,005
Number of Injuries1: 1,607
Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured1: 34
Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured1: 164
Mass Shooting2: 19
Officer Involved Shooting2: 308
Home Invasion2: 164
Defensive Use2: 107
Accidental Shooting2


2nd Amendment scoreboard

No of tyrants overthrown by a well organised militia=ZERO

Number of deaths caused by the right to bear arms=1,005
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 367
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Posted: 1/30/2015 3:35:56 AM
^^^^^
Interesting stats....

Just glancing over the first page of incidents I found one shooting listed as two different incidents which doubled the number, kind of screws the numbers up right? Then I find out that a "incident" can be nothing more than someone reporting " I think I heard a "gunshot" no proof a gun was even used or even in the area. To be an incident the word "gun" or "shot" is all it takes.
So it doesn't bother me about your archive stats because I know it's not even close to correct and even if it were, why do you think it "bothers" anyone except the fab 5 of the cut and post brigade. Post away my forumites down under.

Number of arguements started: none

Number of questionable archives: One
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 368
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Posted: 1/30/2015 4:43:18 AM
Not really sure what your point is...Gun ownership is already regulated...what you are asking for is More Regulation.


I've been talking about recognising the public safety problem and have suggested only that sensible regulation might mitigate it.
this is the crux of the problem,who defines what is sensible, being that guns ownership is are already regulated where is the stopping point and who decides?

You are employing the usual liberal tactic of alleging a severe problem and offering regulation to prevent this alleged problem as a solution...in the process further infringing on our rights...

How do you feel about voted ID?
 gingerosity
Joined: 12/10/2011
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Posted: 1/30/2015 5:17:51 AM

Just glancing over the first page of incidents I found one shooting listed as two different incidents which doubled the number, kind of screws the numbers up right?

Care to tell us which one? http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

I just checked the 181 incidents listed for the last 72 hours by sorting them by state, city and address and found exactly zero duplicates. So either one of us has made a mistake or you just fabricated that factoid to suit your agenda. A simple reference to the offending incident should clarify it.

In any case, and as LC has pointed out several times, body bag counts are hard to get wrong.
 gingerosity
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Posted: 1/30/2015 5:34:26 AM

this is the crux of the problem,who defines what is sensible, being that guns ownership is are already regulated where is the stopping point and who decides?

You are employing the usual liberal tactic of alleging a severe problem and offering regulation to prevent this alleged problem as a solution...in the process further infringing on our rights...

I can't speak for LC, but my view is that regulation would be infringing on your rights and is not the way forward for you. Only pinko liberals would spout that sort of nonsense.

No, most Americans are reasonable and can decide for themselves what is sensible if they have all the information. If they don't have the information then I think it is a neighbourly thing to do to share it with them and talk about their concerns and how their experience differs from ours.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 371
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Posted: 1/30/2015 6:02:10 AM
I support the right to bear arms.

I am against the rabid tactics of some of the NRA to stop all sensible regulations that have been passed from actually being effective.

Most people don't know it, but those like the NRA had stopped a director of the ATF from being appointed for 7 years. So there were temporary leaders in that position.

States can't share information about background checks.

The police can't run a full background check before returning a seized gun to the owner.

The ATF can't advise Federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

Simple common sense things to stop criminals from owning guns are gutted by Congress.

This was a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/01/16/read_president_obama_s_new_proposed_executive_orders_and_legislation_on.html
federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

So people THINK there are a lot of regulations about guns, but in reality there are so many loopholes that it's easy for either the insane, unstable or criminal to evade regulations.

Obama had to issue an executive order JUST to get a director of the ATF put in place after 7 YEARS of that agency not having a leader.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/01/16/read_president_obama_s_new_proposed_executive_orders_and_legislation_on.html
federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
 StarClassic
Joined: 9/29/2014
Msg: 372
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Posted: 1/30/2015 6:37:17 AM

So who is suggesting 'outlawing' guns? Do tell.

Dianne Frightenstein for one. There are many rabid liberals with her mindset.



I've been talking about recognising the public safety problem and have suggested only that sensible regulation might mitigate it.


We've already reached the point where we must ASK big brother's PERMISSION to buy a gun. The camel not only has it's nose in the tent, it has it's whole damn head and a shoulder in. When do you propose WE, as American citizens, say Enough? Do we wait until the only thing we are ALLOWED to own are single shot rimfires and single shot shotguns?
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 373
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Posted: 1/30/2015 6:51:51 AM

In any case, and as LC has pointed out several times, body bag counts are hard to get wrong.


Well you guys were right. I saw two incidents that were similar in the same jurisdiction on the same day.
I'll own it.

I did notice though, that one incident involved a shooter who killed one and wounded another, as the perp flees the scene the police confront him and kill the perp on the street. They made two incidents out of one. On top of that they got to throw an officer involved shooting stat in there. You don't think there's some duplicity? If you don't that's fine. I also find it odd that most define a officer involved shooting as a incident where the officer has shot someone, where this site also uses incidents where the officer was the victim. Probably why that stat seemed unreasonable to me.

But anyway hope it was a great day down under.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 374
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:10:12 AM


We've already reached the point where we must ASK big brother's PERMISSION to buy a gun. The camel not only has it's nose in the tent, it has it's whole damn head and a shoulder in. When do you propose WE, as American citizens, say Enough? Do we wait until the only thing we are ALLOWED to own are single shot rimfires and single shot shotguns?


what an odd metaphor, camels and tents, okee lawrence . .

what is enough? when new gated community homes feature not only pantries but rocket launcher closets
and enough room for a new apache on the driveway? maybe an ebola detector alongside the smoke/monoxide one?

rambo on


* re stats, i looked up crimestoppers for the city of Vancouver for the month of January, the most wanted list off the top; a chick wanted for fraud, another is a car theft, oh, and a parole violation, and y'all are****ring
over the exact number of body bags, jesus
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 375
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:38:29 AM

re stats, i looked up crimestoppers for the city of Vancouver for the month of January, the most wanted list off the top; a chick wanted for fraud, another is a car theft, oh, and a parole violation


That is amazing.. it really is. I wish it were that way here. But out of curiosity I looked at crimestoppers forAtlanta and just quit counting after:

Murder-14
Armed Robbery-26
Agg. assault-8
Aggravated Battery-2
Child molestation-2
Kidnapping-1
Rape-2

I just got tired of adding them up and quit. And these were just the ones listed on crimestoppers.

No telling how many pages are on Chicago's crimestoppers.

You should be glad Vancouver is so crime free.
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