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 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 976
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Posted by Skoochie:
"...You feel that Cliven Bumdy should be allowed to have his guns in case the government comes to get his tax money, but when folks in Ferguson want to take a forceful stand, you admonish them. You say that they should be singing songs and lighting candles. But, Cliven Bundy's band of right wingers were perfectly fine setting up sniper roosts to shoot at law enforcement and threatening to put women on the front line to die first, if law enforcement dare to step foot on their property..."

I don't recall posting extensively about Cliven Bumby or Cliven Bundy in the past.
One discussion touched upon retaliatory killing of his cattle by government agents, which was sad.

Please post the URL and message number and I will very gladly revisit that discussion, if beyond a passing mention of the cattle. In any case, those ranchers did not attack shopkeepers, attempt to steal guns from police, cause themselves to get killed, and then continue hostilities by setting neighborhoods on fire, murdering court witnesses, and shooting at law enforcement. In fact, the only shots fired were likely by the government agents shooting the innocent cattle for reasons unknown.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 977
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Posted: 3/13/2015 1:16:30 PM

I don't recall posting extensively about Cliven Bumby or Cliven Bundy in the past.


Well, I remember your discussion in the now deleted Bundy thread


Please post the URL and message number


What a slippery liar! The Bundy thread is gone, but we still remember your defense of the thief and those that would place women in the front lines in any armed confrontation with government officials.
 8inscrew
Joined: 11/17/2014
Msg: 978
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:26:19 PM
If a woman wanted to hit the front line.....why not? Give her an m4a1 and lets go.
Pizza girl included.
(WHISPER) Girls fight too.
Not all girls are tea party, eyeliner, and pink lace princesses...
some are hard party, eyeliner, pink lace, sexy boots, kick you in your boys, and take your shit princesses.


Let's not ban the 5.56 tho-just the civilian equivalent 223. Sarcasm.
I want to keep the ArmaLite legal, because nato rounds have a proven track record in them.
Common sense. Anyone? Anyone?




Off topic slightly.. why the name calling? Anyone? Anyone?
Superiority complex? Anyone? Anyone?
 matthew83co
Joined: 2/11/2015
Msg: 979
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Posted: 3/13/2015 3:44:23 PM

I don't recall posting extensively about Cliven Bumby or Cliven Bundy in the past.
One discussion touched upon retaliatory killing of his cattle by government agents, which was sad.


The whole Bundy ranch crap was a complete nightmare on both sides.

The rancher was raising hell over wanting to use land that was purchased by the Federal government and allocated to be used to drill and fracture for oil and gas. Reid was involved as he is a stakeholder set to benefit from the oil and gas gains in the area. Bundy was just "exercising his rights" to use land belonging to another entity or person for his own personal use while "exercising his rights" to deny the Federal government access to his land.

Whole case was no different that two idiots that live in the same apartment complex. One idiot says, "keep your cats out of my apartment". The other idiot says, "I'll keep letting my cats in your apartment if you leave a window open and keep animal control away from my cats".

A whole case of "look at this stupid shit".
 matthew83co
Joined: 2/11/2015
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Posted: 3/13/2015 3:47:46 PM

Yet there’s now a handgun on the market that can accept the 5.56mm bullets, too. Though many sportsmen use this type of ammunition, the introduction of a compatible handgun makes it easy for criminals to chamber the armor-piercing bullets in small concealed weapons, the sort of firearms that cops generally encounter and fear. If the 1986 law means anything, the ATF concluded, armor-piercing ammunition “for two-shot and semi-automatic handguns cannot be characterized as ‘primarily intended’ for use in sporting purposes.’”...


People are worried about the 5.56mm handgun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30LOq1-8uhs

My only counter-point to that worry.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 981
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Posted: 3/13/2015 5:38:23 PM

Bundy was just "exercising his rights" to use land belonging to another entity or person for his own personal use while "exercising his rights" to deny the Federal government access to his land.


When you do not pay for the use of that land, your rights are terminated, along with the fact there are no rights, no one has rights.

You at best have privileges, as those rights can be taken away at anytime.
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 982
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Posted: 3/13/2015 5:48:48 PM

Despite the paranoid propaganda and sentiment that was manifested prior to the Obama presidency, 2nd Amendment rights remain as intact as ever



only after constantly fighting for those rights harder than the Thrilla In Manilla between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier, the greatest fight in boxing history.



from Irish:

Well, I remember your discussion in the now deleted Bundy thread



and I remember how you fervently and passionately stated that I was the best looking (short) man you ever saw in the "TGIF's a Fox" thread that is now deleted.
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 983
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Posted: 3/13/2015 5:51:04 PM
re: msg 1014 - "there are no rights, no one has rights."
American real estate law expert, are we?

"Land Ownership Rights

There are a number of rights that are inseparable from land ownership. Once you purchase a piece of land, you will most likely have the following rights:

Surface Rights

A landowner has a right to occupy the surface of his/her land.

Subterranean Rights

A landowner has a right to valuable things (such as oil, minerals, and any other substances) found beneath the land's surface.

Air Rights

A landowner has a right to the air above and below his/her to a reasonable extent. See air space rights for a more detailed discussion.

Vegetation Rights

A landowner has a right to plant trees, crops, and other vegetation on his/her land.

Improvement Rights

A landowner has a right to improve and place fixtures on his/her land (such as a shed or a patio).

Right to Lateral and Subjacent Support

A landowner has a right to stop his/her neighbors from excavating or otherwise changing their land such that it would damage his/her land and/or building. See lateral and subjacent support for a more detailed discussion.

Right to Be Free Of Public Or Private Nuisances

A landowner has a right to request a court order to stop non-consented interferences with his/her enjoyment of the land. Examples of nuisances include pollution, noxious odors, and excessive noise.

Riparian Rights

A landowner has a right to use the natural waterway within his/her land. See riparian ownership for a more detailed discussion.

Are There Limits to How a Landowner May Exercise These Rights?

Yes. For one, a landowner usually may not exercise his/her rights in a way that will interfere with another landowner's rights.

Furthermore, government may impose zoning law and special building law that will limit how a landowner may use his/her land. The government may even exercise the power of eminent domain and take away a landowner's land.

There may also be private restrictions place on the deed of the land between the buyer and the seller, and these restrictions will usually be valid unless they contradict public policy."

- See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/land-ownership-rights.html#sthash.80TNfoRn.dpuf
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 984
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Posted: 3/13/2015 5:58:18 PM

American real estate law expert, are we?


Nope, but I do know history, and pretty sure there are some Japanese Americans that could explain to you, how those so called rights are not really rights.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 985
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Posted: 3/13/2015 6:42:51 PM
^^^^^
The Japanese were considered a possible fifth column during war.
 GreenThumbz18
Joined: 4/25/2012
Msg: 986
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Posted: 3/13/2015 6:57:53 PM
re msg 1017 - "Nope,but I do know history"
In that case stick to what you know. I'm sure you are familiar with the Emergency War Powers Act of 1941, but for those who are not, they can read about it here.
I am reasonably certain that this law was not used against Mr. Cliven, seeing as how it expired 70 years ago.

"The War Powers Act of 1941, also known as the First War Powers Act, was an American emergency law that increased Federal power during World War II. The act was signed by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and put into law on December 18, 1941, less than two weeks after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The act was similar to the Departmental Reorganization Act of 1917 as it was signed shortly before the U.S. engaged in a large war and increased the powers of the president's U.S. Executive Branch.[1]

The act gave the President enormous authority to execute World War II in an efficient manner. The president was authorized to reorganize the executive branch, independent government agencies, and government corporations for the war cause. With the act, the President was allowed to censor mail and other forms of communication between the United States and foreign countries. The act and all changes created by its power were to remain intact until six months after the end of the war at which time, the act would become defunct.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Act_of_1941
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 987
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Posted: 3/13/2015 8:11:52 PM

and I remember how you fervently and passionately stated that I was the best looking (short) man you ever saw in the "TGIF's a Fox" thread that is now deleted


I remember that. My precise words were: "I've never seen a midget that tans and had a face lift!"
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 988
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Posted: 3/13/2015 8:27:36 PM
The gunnuts keep claiming gun ownership is on the rise...but, apparently it's more bullshyte pulled out of thin air...the number of guns is on the rise (gunnuts stockpiling their weapons waiting for the great revolution) but the number of people who own guns is declining:


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of Americans who live in a household with at least one gun is lower than it's ever been, according to a major American trend survey that finds the decline in gun ownership is paralleled by a reduction in the number of Americans who hunt.





According to the latest General Social Survey, 32 percent of Americans either own a firearm themselves or live with someone who does, which ties a record low set in 2010. That's a significant decline since the late 1970s and early 1980s, when about half of Americans told researchers there was a gun in their household.

The General Social Survey is conducted by NORC, an independent research organization based at the University of Chicago, with money from the National Science Foundation. Because of its long-running and comprehensive set of questions about the demographics, behaviors and attitudes of the American public, it is a highly regarded source of data about social trends

Data from the 2014 survey was released last week, and an analysis of its findings on gun ownership and attitudes toward gun permits was conducted by General Social Survey staff.

The drop in the number of Americans who own a gun or live in a household with one is probably linked to a decline in the popularity of hunting, from 32 percent who said they lived in a household with at least one hunter in 1977 to less than half that number saying so now.

That the number of households with at least one gun is declining doesn't necessarily mean that the number being purchased is on the decline. Data from the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check system shows that in recent years there's actually been an increase in the number of background checks being run, suggesting the total number of firearms being purchased is going up.

But those are concentrated in fewer hands than they were in the 1980s, the General Social Survey finds. The 2014 poll finds that 22 percent of Americans own a firearm, down from a high of 31 percent who said so in 1985.

 Olwhatzhisname
Joined: 11/18/2014
Msg: 989
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Posted: 3/14/2015 5:48:44 AM

"The War Powers Act of 1941, also known as the First War Powers Act, was an American emergency law that increased Federal power during World War II. The act was signed by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and put into law on December 18, 1941,


Brought to you by Democrat Presidents & Democrat-controlled Congresses: infringing on your Constitutional rights since (at least) 1941


According to the latest General Social Survey, 32 percent of Americans either own a firearm themselves or live with someone who does, which ties a record low set in 2010. That's a significant decline since the late 1970s and early 1980s, when about half of Americans told researchers there was a gun in their household.


Gallup sez otherwise.

Gallup sez gun ownership/gun in household was 42% in 1980.... & is 42% today. Generally the same for 35 years, with a few years of some "ups & downs" of a few percentage points.

Which "pollster" is wrong here??
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 990
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Posted: 3/14/2015 6:34:03 AM

Gallup sez gun ownership/gun in household was 42% in 1980.... & is 42% today. Generally the same for 35 years, with a few years of some "ups & downs" of a few percentage points.




Fewer Americans Own Guns Than Ever — But Those Who Do Own a Lot of Them
Jon Levine's avatar image By Jon Levine March 12, 2015

There are between 270 million and 310 million guns in the United States, according to the Pew Research Center. As Pew points out, that's about one gun for every man, woman and child in the country. But according to the results of a new national survey, more and more of those guns belong to fewer and fewer people.

According to the General Social Survey, a 3,500-page collection of facts and figures published by the National Opinion Research Center, American gun ownership is now roughly at its lowest level in almost 40 years.

The data: In 2014, roughly 32% of American households reported owning at least one firearm, down from more than half between 1976 and 1982, according to NORC. The center also reported that 39% of white respondents reported owning guns, while only 18.1% of black responders did, and that gun ownership spiked significantly as the income levels of respondents increased.

NORC attributed the drop primarily to a decline in the popularity of hunting — according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the number of hunting licenses, tags and permits stamps issued to American hunters decreased from 21,621,584 in 1969 to 2,954,757 in 2013.


http://mic.com/articles/112658/fewer-americans-own-guns-than-ever-but-those-who-do-own-a-lot-of-them
 Olwhatzhisname
Joined: 11/18/2014
Msg: 991
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Posted: 3/14/2015 6:56:56 AM

According to the General Social Survey, a 3,500-page collection of facts and figures published by the National Opinion Research Center, American gun ownership is now roughly at its lowest level in almost 40 years.



Gallup sez otherwise.

Gallup sez gun ownership/gun in household was 42% in 1980.... & is 42% today. Generally the same for 35 years, with a few years of some "ups & downs" of a few percentage points.

Which "pollster" is wrong here??
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 992
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Posted: 3/14/2015 7:04:22 AM

Which "pollster" is wrong here??


I would say the one who has yet to give a link to the source of their claim.

As there is no way to validate a claim until you can see the data. As there is a good chance that the Gallup Pol is just using the % of guns vs the population and not breaking down who owns those guns.
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
Msg: 993
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Posted: 3/14/2015 7:25:53 AM
Hey Eric, if you saw a bunch of pigs bashing the heads of peaceful protestors who are legally and rightfully trying raise awareness to stop greedo corporate interests from poisoning their water,stealing their food, making them, their kids and the planet sick would you defend them? With your gun? because that is really what your so called "right to bear arms" was meant for, keeping the rulers in line when they get out of line.

How about when the pigs start clubbing black citizen's who have been rising up (again) because they are sick and tired of being targeted, killed, and mistreated by armed and dangerous racist bully pigs...Would you defend them and exercise this "right to bear arms" to protect them?

No, you back the pigs because they can do no wrong in your eyes.

Does your defense of the constitution include ALL citizen's rights? Or would you just let the citizens 'get what they deserve' for exercising their rights?

You think nothing of using a gun to protect property (even if it's not yours), you defend the right to bear arms. What about the other rights in the constitution? What about protecting women, children, teens, the down trodden, the air, the water, the right to live without being harassed?

You and your war mongering politicians seem to think it's fine for to be violent while securing land for white, religious nut jobs but when people defend themselves against armed and dangerous nut bars who have the "best" weapons available and who have the power to manipulate the law courts THAT is not O.K. for some fckn reason that is not reasonable.

You are such a hypocrite.

Go watch "The Battle for Seattle" or documentaries on police brutality and maybe check out your foreign policy's effect on innocent people all over the world as well as what Nat is doing to civilians trapped.

Maybe you should get a grip on reality instead of a pis tol and join the humane race instead of the arms race?


 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 994
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Posted: 3/14/2015 8:16:26 AM

No, you back the pigs because they can do no wrong in your eyes.

And yet... He wants criminals to have easy access to "cop killer" bullets...

Why is this...?

On the one hand... worshiping law enforcement... On the other... wanting the criminals to be able to kill them more easily...

Could this be related... to his views on... "who the criminals are"...? Could it be an attempt... to foster violent racism...? To render a justification... for police to kill... "those people"... without question...?
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 995
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Posted: 3/14/2015 8:16:44 AM

Posted by DameWrite:
"...Hey Eric, if you saw a bunch of pigs bashing the heads of peaceful protestors who are legally and rightfully trying raise awareness to stop greedo corporate interests from poisoning their water, stealing their food, making them, their kids and the planet sick would you defend them? With your gun? because that is really what your so called 'right to bear arms' was meant for, keeping the rulers in line when they get out of line.

How about when the pigs start clubbing black citizen's that have been rising up because they are sick and tired of being targeted, killed, and mistreated by armed and dangerous racist bully pigs...Would you defend them and exercise this "right to bear arms" to protect them?..."

I would probably press the "pause" button my my remote control.

My next action would be to get up from the sofa, cover my girlfriend in a nice warm blanket, get more wine, and ask my girlfriend if she wanted any snacks from the kitchen before we continued watching the dramatic movie together.

Posted by DameWrite:
"...Maybe you should get a grip on reality instead of a pis tol and join the humane race instead of the arms race?..."

LOL!
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 996
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Posted: 3/14/2015 8:34:52 AM
@Dame
I have the solution.
Get a steady job.
Save some money.
Buy a home.
Outlook matures.
Problems are solved.
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
Msg: 997
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Posted: 3/14/2015 8:40:33 AM


Could this be related... to his views on... "who the criminals are"...? Could it be an attempt... to foster violent racism...? To render a justification... for police to kill... "those people"... without question...?


Yep, it certainly could be, these so called "nice guys" get off on that kind of shiat. ( he'll even brag about getting to watch it all unfold while sitting back with his "girl " getting pissed on cute label wines and snacking on monsanto garbage while his bikes stack up in the garage and the black kids out there have to walk through these clashes, passing bars pedaling booze, past racist churches that don't want them resting on "their" lawn to toxic schools with idiot teachers that share his mental ity.)

When their ivory tower falls...we'll see who is laughing out loud then.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 998
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Posted: 3/14/2015 9:17:34 AM

Posted by DameWrite:
"...Yep, it certainly could be, these so called 'nice guys' get off on that kind of shiat. ( he'll even brag about getting to watch it all unfold while sitting back with his 'girl' getting pissed on cute label wines and snacking on monsanto garbage while his bikes stack up in the garage and the black kids out there have to walk through these clashes, passing bars pedaling booze, past racist churches that don't want them resting on "their" lawn to toxic schools with idiot teachers that share his mental ity.) When their ivory tower falls...we'll see who is laughing out loud then..."

That was quite an outburst!

First of all, my cheese and fruit are sourced from quality local farms and artisanal fromageries. They just taste better.
Custom bicycles do not "stack-up" in a garage. They are housed indoors in a bicycle atelier and workshop. That way they can be cleaned, maintained, and kept mechanically sound. Pedaling booze? They deliver alcohol by bicycle now?

Sorry to learn of your very unfortunate experiences with racial clashes, racist churches, racist lawns, toxic racist schools, racist schools, racist teachers, and racist ivory towers. My hope is things turn around for you very soon.

In the meantime, a good basic home arrangement is a .357 Magnum stainless steel revolver with a 4.00" barrel, which you can load with .38 Special cartridges for now. Couple that with a 12-gauge shotgun (either 2.75" or 3.00" shells) loaded with reduced-recoil loads and you'll be fine. Obtain good training from a NRA-certified instructor to ensure you embrace good firearms safety habits right from the start.
 tgif111
Joined: 10/24/2014
Msg: 999
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Posted: 3/14/2015 9:38:42 AM

Hey Eric, if you saw a bunch of pigs bashing the heads of peaceful protestors who are legally and rightfully trying raise awareness to stop greedo corporate interests from poisoning their water,stealing their food, making them, their kids and the planet sick would you defend them? With your gun? because that is really what your so called "right to bear arms" was meant for, keeping the rulers in line when they get out of line


there would have to be ABSOLUTE PROOF that what you conjecture was 100% true and A LONG TERM PERSISTANT ILLEGAL ACTION THAT THREATENED AMNY LIVES then I would take the appropriate legal actions through my representative. only when ALL options are exhausted beyond any reasonable means would I then have to reluctantly organize a militia to fight the government using any and all weapons available to me.

imagine your hypothetical scenario but with NO weapons available to me. that they were confiscated years ago in a house by house search and seizure by the government.



How about when the pigs start clubbing black citizen's who have been rising up (again) because they are sick and tired of being targeted, killed, and mistreated by armed and dangerous racist bully pigs...Would you defend them and exercise this "right to bear arms" to protect them


same answer as above.

I don't believe they are being purposely targeted, killed or mistreated. maybe black people in your country are nicer than our black people.
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
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Posted: 3/14/2015 9:53:10 AM
Eric, would you use that "good basic home arrangement" .357 to protect an unarmed black or brown or poor white young American or "illegal alien" who was protesting crimes against humanity if he or she was about to get his or her head bashed in or shot by a fully armed racist, bully pig or not?

Or do you just save it protect your stuff ? (and if need be, suck up, play "nice" and bend over with hands showing to cops in case they have a hate on for fat bottomed, brain dead, christian guys who target girls with passive aggressive charm and red wine and MORE cheese ?).

I'm sorry to hear you haven't had "unfortunate experiences" maybe then you'd have a heart and quit "pedaling" your racist views and love for war criminals and power tripping, racist cops.

Good organic cheese has more qualities and reasons for purchase than "they just taste better" and they do taste better AS WELL as protect our environment. Give them a try because your brain is going soft and...

the world is watching.
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