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 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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HFX_RGB...the primary channel by way most citizens of our country shape policy is by voting and maintaining contact with our local representatives and other legislators.


Thanks for the tip and I assume from now on you will only express you opinions with regards to matters of policy to your elected officials and not here.






As a resident of Halifax, Nova Scotia you are not eligible to vote here, yet you can certainly write to our elected officials to communicate your opinion.


Incorrect.
 kj521
Joined: 8/8/2012
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:25:05 AM
"Incorrect"

Too cute Frank!

Did you know it has been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? :D
 lyingcheat
Joined: 9/13/2009
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:29:40 AM

Thank you for your insights from Brisbane, Australia. How nice it would be to enjoy some summer weather now!
You are similarly invited to write letters to our legislators if United States domestic policy is of great interest.


What an odd suggestion. You must have missed the point.
I didn't post because I care particularly about your domestic policy, and I didn't argue anywhere in my post that US citizens aren't entitled to maintain whatever domestic policy they choose.

US citizens are not entitled to pretend unchallenged, on public forums, that their domestic policy is a sensible one though, or that it makes them somehow safer, or more secure than other places, to have their country awash with guns.

So there's no reason for me to write letters to your legislators. Unless they too start posting in these forums, and making spurious claims that are unsupported by evidence I guess.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:32:49 AM
lol...never would have thought I'd like a lying cheat, but what ^^^he said.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:52:43 AM
There are nearly as many firearms as there are citizens in the United States of America.
They are simply not going away.
It is right that is clearly evident in the Constitution of our country.

What happens in practice is that vast portions of our country are very safe. Violence is focused in urban sectors.
These huge areas of our nation rarely experience violent crime...regardless of how one categorizes it.
The FBI Uniform Crime Report (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr) illustrates this time and again.

What we have also observed is that an armed society is a polite society.
The precincts with the most notable danger (like Camden, NJ; Washington, D.C.; Chicago, IL; Oakland, CA; etc.) are saddled with the strictest firearms regulations. Meanwhile, in areas with a more pleasant population and where there are more lawful firearm-owning residents, there is a far lesser degree of violence. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:59:03 AM

The FBI Uniform Crime Report (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr) illustrates this time and again.


Nope, it actually proves you are 100% wrong, but thanks for playing.





What we have also observed is that an armed society is a polite society.


By "we" do you mean you and your other accounts?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:12:37 AM

US citizens are not entitled to pretend unchallenged, on public forums, that their domestic policy is a sensible one though, or that it makes them somehow safer, or more secure than other places, to have their country awash with guns.

So there's no reason for me to write letters to your legislators. Unless they too start posting in these forums, and making spurious claims that are unsupported by evidence I guess.


Mr. Cheat...it's good to see you back in the game, posting well reasoned commentary, backed by 3rd party literature in which you cite your source...it is sad to see what is left of conservative posters who clearly cut and paste 3rd party information, like it was their own writing in an effort to make their opinions look like their own and not something gleaned from extreme rightwing sources.

The current crop of rightwingers are attempting to use Switzerland, in the gun debate, as a prime example of a country with high gun ownership and low gun violence...the one and only country with high gun ownership and low gun violence...that they completely ignore the simple fact that gun ownership and possession in Switzerland is highly regulated, much more so then in the US, shows how low this current crop of conservatives will go in their attempt to score gun lobby points. We must neglect that Switzerland has a poverty rate of 7.7% (we must forget that poverty has a direct correlation to violence-gun violence included).

Simple fact...America, with a gun ownership rate of 88 guns per 100 people has on of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, along with, having the highest gun related deaths in the industrialized world. (in the past I would have cited my sources, but due to the new breed of conservative posters and their tactics: 3 words-go f yourself)
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:15:09 AM

What we have also observed is that an armed society is a polite society.


What a stupid comment. You can't possibly think this is remotely true. There are many countries that are unarmed and "polite". Canada comes to mind, how about Australia, how about Great Britain, how about Japan... just to name a couple. Far less murders and crimes going on in these countries than in the U.S. where many are armed. And the preceding list of countries are know for being polite...Canada, Australia, Great Britain and Japan....not the rude Americans that need to pack a friggin gun to go to Walmart or the Piggley Wiggely.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:33:20 AM
"What happens in practice is that vast portions of our country are very safe. Violence is focused in urban sectors.
These huge areas of our nation rarely experience violent crime"

>>hey, that's cool. It simply means that intelligent people wanting to avoid violence, can do so not by packin' heat, but by doing the smart thing....avoid those urban areas where violence is focused.

I mean, why go where you don't belong? Its not like suburbia doesn't have malls and entertainment areas. Even drugs, if that's what you're going to the urban areas for.

Now, if those urban areas are armed societies, it kinda disproves that idea they are polite (armed) societies, if violent crime is truly localized in those areas and the rest of our areas--oops, excuse me, the areas outside of the urban areas--are very safe.
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:33:43 AM
why do liberals always try to compare stats and stuff to countries that have 1/10th of our population with totally different demographics?

You disdain for America and Americans is duly noted..
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:43:18 AM

why do liberals always try to compare stats and stuff to countries that have 1/10th of our population with totally different demographics?


Dude...you tepauppets brought it up-not us.


You disdain for America and Americans is duly noted..


there it is..the ultimate snark..."I'm more American/patriotic/loyal than you are"...what bullshyte...we're both American's...loyal and patriotic...we just have different points of view.
 Behind-Blue-Eyes_53
Joined: 12/19/2011
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:54:48 AM


Then get one...simple...along the way get yourself and the weapon registered...attend a gun safety class...be responsible with a dangerous weapon-one that when first designed had only one purpose-to kill others.


Back to the OT...... The Lady in question was not charged with illegally carrying Her Pistol. In GA, it's illegal to carry a Pistol, either openly or concealed without a Permit. She has not been charged, from what I can find in a search, with carrying without a Permit. I'm going to take a WAG, that She has a Permit to carry Her Firearm.

Whether it's their position or not, it sounds like many of the anti-gun Posters, feel it would be Better for this Lady to be , Robbed, Beaten, Raped, or Killed, than have the means to Defend Herself.

One poster thinks it would be Better that a Able Body Person be on Welfare than supporting themselves at a Job that might put them at some Risk.

As for Eric's Heinlein's quote from The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.....

I think this one is more fitting for some Poster's here.....

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:08:37 PM
Well I guess I will be happy I have my AR-15 (dated before the NY ban), Mossberg 18 " shotgun and service weapon to help me survive any future collapse. Also have lots of other gear. No Zombie is biting me!

When things collapse people revert to basic instinct. That can be good at times ,like people helping others that are trapped but I have seen the other side also, and it isn't pretty. Personally saw that in Kosovo-Bosnia in the late 1990's, Sept 11 and other riots. Have friends and family who saw it in New Orleans Katrina and USSR collapse.

If one is going to buy multiple insurance for events that are unlikely( theft insurance, home insurance, etc), I see NO good reason people shouldn't have the most basic type insurance which is food, water and weapons to protect the 1st 2. History tends to repeat itself!

That being said having weapons that one can't safely use or control can be more dangerous than NOT having it. Plenty people don't know how to use their weapons. They buy the wrong ammo and shoot holes in their walls hitting people in the next room.

So what have we learned here?
All the armed conservatives now know to head north to Canada to subdue Bullwinkle. Resistance is futile!
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:11:53 PM

why do liberals always try to compare stats and stuff to countries that have 1/10th of our population with totally different demographics?


Because we can. Go look at the stats for gun deaths, U.S. is highest compared to the so called civilized nations of Canada, Australia, Japan, France and United Kingdom. You folks kill each other off at a much higher rate. The majority of gun deaths in Canada are suicides.

And its not a disdain for America or Americans. The folks like Madelaine/hondagal are laughable but she set herself up for that. Chances are she'll shoot her foot or her loved one before she gets to peg a bad guy. And old broad sitting at home waiting for the bad guys to steal her hard earned support hose and collection of Elvis teaspoons. Its not that I don't have valuable things or have sentimental value on my things or have antiques, etc., its just that not a damn thing I own is worth losing my life over. Its just stuff. Call the police and call the insurance company.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:19:17 PM

why do liberals always try to compare stats and stuff to countries that have 1/10th of our population with totally different demographics?

It's simple math. 88/100 = 88% - it doesn't matter how large your population is. If you had half the population it would still be 44/50 = 88% of the population. It's not disdain for Americans, it's disdain for a belief system perpetrated by a "right". It's my right to believe some of the posters here are near idiots but it's not necessary to state they are just because I have the right to. If I did, it would then perpetuate a whole other dynamic with the posting - which is precisely what has happened by believing just because you have the right to have a gun, you'll get one. By so doing, your country has created a whole other dynamic/demographic - one of fear and violence within your own borders.

Perhaps your government was being thrifty - tell the population it's their right and have them pay out of pocket for that right, then when the zombie's start running amuck, there's the ready arsenal at no expense to the government.
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:20:12 PM
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I mean, why go where you don't belong? Its not like suburbia doesn't have malls and entertainment areas. Even drugs, if that's what you're going to the urban areas for.

^^^^^

I really don't know what to say.....

I wonder how that would work if said to "urban" dwellers. Don't go where you don't belong....
 adventurejoe70
Joined: 3/1/2013
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:27:24 PM

Perhaps your government was being thrifty - tell the population it's their right and have them pay out of pocket for that right, then when the zombie's start running amuck, there's the ready arsenal at no expense to the government.


Well for some of us it was a tax deduction and came out of annual equipment allowance . But when the Zombies run a muck I am pretty sure our gov't will have it's vast military personnel taking over some country in the mid East so we will pretty much be left on our own.

I live on an island with some of the most crazy SOB'S in the world so it is an insurance policy! As is having a pirate ship!

 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:28:03 PM

Finally, when your government wants to repeal the Second Amendment and force you into registering your weapons, THAT IS WHEN YOU NEED THE SECOND AMENDMENT THE MOST!


This message brought to you buy your local gun supplier.

Remember, if you say the magic N word you get a free upgrade a 50round mag and 5% discount on hollow points.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
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Posted: 1/22/2015 12:54:45 PM

Posted by AdventureJoe70:
"I live on an island with the most crazy SOB'S in the world so it is an insurance policy!"

As ancient explorers approached our shores, a sailor exclaimed, "Is dat an island?" and the name stuck. ;-)
Sorry, don't have another one handy for Long Island. LOL.

Unsure why people would be unnerved by your AR-15, shotgun, or sidearm as a decent and law-abiding person.
It is not like they are going to jump up on their own accord and start randomly attacking.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 1:07:25 PM

We are forced into working harder, receiving less, and paying for an out-of-control government headed by a narcissistic, socialist who along with his wife has never loved this country and is on record as saying he wants to fundamentally change it!!!


Is that fact or simply your little opinion? And I don't think anyone has argued against the Second Amendment.

And from that site you plopped down, just a step above crazy Ku Klux Klan crap. Where do you folks get this stuff? And yup, zombies....
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 1:34:01 PM

Unsure why people would be unnerved by your AR-15, shotgun, or sidearm as a decent and law-abiding person.
It is not like they are going to jump up on their own accord and start randomly attacking.


Yeah cause that would never happen.


Edit: Apparently it happened a couple of days ago, see below


Man arrested after tackling shopper carrying gun
Posted: Jan 20, 2015 6:25 PM AST

Hillsborough deputies arrested a man who spotted someone with a gun, followed him into a Walmart, and tackled him. The problem? The man with the gun had a concealed weapons permit, and the man who rushed him didn't call 911 or alert store security.

According to the sheriff's office, Michael Foster, 43, saw Clarence Daniels, 62, in the Walmart parking lot with a gun holstered under his coat.

Foster followed Daniels into the store, put him in a choke-hold and brought him to the ground, the sheriff's office said. He then started yelling that Daniels had a gun.

A struggle ensued, with Daniels yelling that he had a permit. Security detained both men until deputies arrived.

They confirmed Daniels had a permit for the gun, and arrested Foster.

He is charged with one count of battery.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/27896784/man-spots-gun-then-tackles-concealed-carry-license-holder





Guns don't kill people, people kill people.


Great point, you just proved you do not need a gun.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
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Posted: 1/22/2015 2:06:32 PM

Unsure why people would be unnerved by your AR-15, shotgun, or sidearm as a decent and law-abiding person.

He's not your average citizen. He has proven abilities, unlike "most" other average citizens, many of whom have under-average abilities and mental faculties that are not put to rigorous testing. Just in these forums alone there are some half baked individuals who, if owning a gun, would make it unsafe to be around with the way they "go postal" if you simply have a difference of opinion.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

...and cars don't kill people, people kill people, which has been stated before. There are too many half baked people driving vehicles too that have no business having a driver's license - but hey, it's a right, no matter if they are chemically impaired, too old or too impaired in judgement after having been granted a license and deliberately flew under the radar in large numbers until a vehicle is under their care, custody and control. Just with vehicles - there aren't enough safeguards in place to ensure that those who own a gun actually have the ability to use them properly. For most, however, because of urban sprawl, it's almost a necessity to have vehicles - with guns it's more a case of urban brawl caused by gun ownership.
 SunshineGirl__
Joined: 10/7/2014
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Posted: 1/22/2015 2:09:25 PM
I think this OP’s got some screws loose. No meaningless thread on a dating site forum nobody cares about is worth getting so worked up over and hating on others. I can’t imagine trying to live dragging around that much hate. I truly feel sorry for you.
 kj521
Joined: 8/8/2012
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Posted: 1/22/2015 2:26:48 PM
"No meaningless thread on a dating site forum nobody cares about is worth getting so worked up over and hating on others."


Lmao!

Ummm........Hello? Shouldn't you be addressing that to the majority of OPs and posters in the off topic forum?


There are always very strong opinions, especially, with regards to politics or religion! Which is why I would advice to steer clear of those topics on a first date. :)
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 150
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:16:35 PM

Corrected newspaper account for HFX_RGB:
Attacker Michael Foster arrested after tackling decent citizen Clarence Daniels lawfully carrying gun
Posted: Jan 20, 2015 6:25 PM AST

"Hillsborough deputies arrested a crazed anti-gun man who spotted a completely peaceful person with a gun, followed him into a Walmart, and tackled him. The problem? The man with the gun had a concealed weapons permit, and the man who attacked him, with drool hanging off his chin, didn't think to call 911 or alert store security.

According to the sheriff's office, Michael Foster, a crazed man 43 y.o., saw Clarence Daniels, 62 y.o., in the Walmart parking lot with a gun holstered under his coat. Michael Foster stated, "That man wore a jacket to keep his sidearm covered. I don't care if he is an undercover police officer, an FBI agent, a Secret Service agent, or a CCW holder. I am going to go utterly apeshyt and attack a completely innocent person for no reason. That's how we roll in Canada, yo."

Foster, wildly cranked-up on Slim Jims, Cheetos, and Yoo-Hoo chocolate drink, stalked Daniels into the store, flipped his wig, and crazily put him in a choke-hold, bringing him to the ground, the sheriff's office said. He then started yelling like a demon, potentially setting-off a panic, that innocent WalMart shopper Daniels simply had a lawful gun.

A struggle ensued, with Daniels calmly indicating he had a permit and producing for police upon request.
Police deputies confirmed Daniels has a lawful permit and had trained medical professionals in white jackets toss Foster into the looney bin. Foster is charged with one count of battery and an affiliated charge of being a nitwit."

Adjusted for accuracy.


Posted by HFX_RGB:
"Great point, you just proved you do not need a gun."

I never said that I own a gun.


Posted by KJ521:
"There are always very strong opinions, especially, with regards to politics or religion!
Which is why I would advise to steer clear of those topics on a first date."
:)

Excellent point you have made! Darn right.
If out with a woman I am ordering some tasty sauteed vegetables, spiced chicken, and delicious cold drinks.
Having an enjoyable conversation and laughing for a few hours would be my focus. Sheesh.
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