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 oasis5801
Joined: 8/6/2011
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Wow, in that age group.
Retired; home, cash, 401, & fico. Kids grown and ex brought out....lessons learned.
If I wanted to be a Sponsor, I would go to AA. Appears woman in my area want to be brought without the hooker title.
love to travel, live music and eat great food?

Is is wrong to share, plan and save? That should be a part of any relationship?
Amazing how many women are unemployed, not retirement and no passport.
Caribbean? I buy the plane ticket, food and entertainment? Cheaper to travel alone.

I love spending money, but a quote from a friend;
"I was born at night, But not last night"
 clarice46
Joined: 3/4/2015
Msg: 327
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Posted: 3/16/2015 4:31:21 PM
in the dating world I have encountered men who wont buy a dinner or even a coffee unless they are sure to get something for it, another date perhaps. Many men complain about spending money on a meal when the girl does not want to see them again. I know of women who give bjs in the carpark for a fancy dinner and if this is not so then the guys in question are lying to me.
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 328
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Posted: 3/16/2015 4:48:00 PM
^^^^^

Unless these women are prostitutes, escorts etc. I have to think these guys are lying to you.
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 329
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Posted: 3/16/2015 6:05:09 PM
I have heard of guys expecting a bj in the parking lot...before dinner!
 oasis5801
Joined: 8/6/2011
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Posted: 3/16/2015 7:24:58 PM
I Love it when a woman offers to pay the tip after dinner.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 331
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Posted: 3/17/2015 11:57:45 AM
Many women just want a nice expensive free dinner, maybe two. After the guy has this same movie a few times he begins to see a pattern. But guys are suckers and have hope. When I was younger I was dating often and it was amazing how many times I invested to never hear again from the date. I am wiser now, and will not have a full blown expensive dinner without meeting for a drink or coffee first.

Women (many of them) make their time they spend with you valuable. Like a guys time is not? The last time I looked my time was worth more than 98% of women that I meet. To be graced by their presence, you have to pay. If you want anything more you need to pay more if you will even get to that point.

Reminds me of the dating site "What's Your Price" where you can date pretty women and agree to a "set" price for the date. Usually $100.00 or more plus of course the cost for dinner or whatever. The woman have no intention of sleeping with you or anything else (to the mans disappointment of course) but to just collect the first date money.

Regular dating sites like POF are similar, however there is no additional money to whatever you spend on the date itself.

I am going to get chewed up...good.

oasis5801...consider that lucky. If the valet charge is even offered it's rare.
 deepthoughtlighthumour
Joined: 2/15/2015
Msg: 332
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Posted: 3/21/2015 1:24:59 AM

Although I like to be treated well, I am also reasonable.


I guess Socrates or Immanuel Kant could have their way with you just by their sheer power of reasoning. I fear my feeble logic would be a bit frail quite powerless to win a woman with heir like yours.

What other currency do you value aside from reason? Maybe a sense of humour? or a well-proportioned basement room, in which I live?
 deepthoughtlighthumour
Joined: 2/15/2015
Msg: 333
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Posted: 3/21/2015 1:27:56 AM
"I have heard of guys expecting a bj in the parking lot...before dinner!"

... also in the line-up at the movie house before the show, at the slot machines before the race, at the opera before the aria, at the grocery store before the "Jams and Jellies", at church, before transubstantiation... in other words, a man expects it any time, from any direction, and he will never refuse one.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 334
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Posted: 3/21/2015 1:41:21 PM

whether or not a guy has money--that is out of his control. It's up to the judge to say how much the guy owes his ex wife and kids. nothing he can do about it


LOL!!! best yet!

And then people wonder why I never got married and started a family.
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
Msg: 335
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Posted: 3/21/2015 2:20:25 PM
I have to admit that there is a double standard.

See, if a woman buys me dinner? I have no problem meeting her expectations later.

Why can't the reverse be true?

(being facetious here...)
 BlackLady1953
Joined: 5/27/2011
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Posted: 3/21/2015 3:36:07 PM
Don't buy me dinner....I'll eat at home, you eat at home, and we can meet for dessert (not me), and split the bill.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
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Posted: 3/21/2015 5:11:06 PM

See, if a woman buys me dinner? I have no problem meeting her expectations later.

Why can't the reverse be true?

(being facetious here...)


Sadly, there is some truth in it though.
 silverfox97027
Joined: 9/18/2009
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Posted: 3/22/2015 10:56:44 PM
I believe the truth of matter is that most men and women by that age have been
bittered by bad marriages.So most of the women are only looking for a guy that has
a lot more money than her first husband and men fear that women only want them for their money sad
but true.
 bamagrl68
Joined: 11/14/2010
Msg: 339
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Posted: 3/23/2015 12:18:23 PM
deetrisate- Money is a valid concern for BOTH sexes.
It doesn't matter to me if a man doesn't have a lot of money, as long as he''s trying/working, we can do things that don't cost a lot, but I'm not going to be used either.
A couple of months ago I was messaging a man back and forth and we made it to talk of meeting, THEN he says that I would have to come pick him up?! :0
He initiated contact, so right away bells and whistles are going off.
I don't hint around, so I just asked straight out, "Do you have a car?".
I get this story about how he had a wreck, he got hurt, wasn't working, but not to worry, because he's expecting a big settlement check any day.
Yeah, right,I don't think so, I blocked him, right then.
Bottom line- if you are working and trying, I'm ok with that, if you are looking for a free ride, I am NOT ok with that.
Man or woman, people shouldn't use other people and people shouldn't allow themselves to be used.
 jkdp65
Joined: 4/15/2014
Msg: 340
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Posted: 3/25/2015 5:03:32 PM
The title of this thread should really be, "women in this age group and money". Many women past 40 will say that after either being married to a jerk or dating so many jerks, " I really just want a nice guy that cares for me and shows me respect". Unfortunately, that is mostly B.S. Given the choice between a guy that is genuine, caring and respectful that earns the median income vs. a guy that is so-so but earns double that most women in this age group are going to choose the guy with the higher salary.
 Demidar
Joined: 10/22/2014
Msg: 341
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Posted: 3/25/2015 6:14:55 PM
This thread sure brought the gold diggers out in force . Nice to know many women view men as walking ATM's .
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
Msg: 342
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Posted: 3/25/2015 6:34:27 PM
When I met my 3rd ex (doesn't that sound sexy?),

I was paying over $3K/monthly total between alimony and child support to the first 2 ex's.

She accepted me 'as is'...her financial equal, at that time.

She was proof that some women wanted character and commitment over money.

We didn't work out for a number of reasons, but money was never one of them.

I'm the eternal optimist.

I have room in my heart for 1 more ring and 1 more marriage, and you better believe that I'll be FUSSY as hell, the last time :)

Peace.
 Demidar
Joined: 10/22/2014
Msg: 343
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Posted: 3/25/2015 6:44:25 PM
Unfortunately if you look at the federal statistics , every additional time you get married the % chance for divorce goes up . So at 4th marriage you maybe have 80 +% chance for divorce , unless you can beat the odds . Do not need a marriage contract to spend your life with some one .
msg 355 : Ya , I root for the underdog as well , at times I have stood up for those that couldn't stand up for themselves , because it was the right thing to do .
 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
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Posted: 3/25/2015 6:48:23 PM
I've always rooted for the underdog :)
 PenelopeLeChat
Joined: 7/29/2014
Msg: 345
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Posted: 3/25/2015 7:06:58 PM
I like the cut of your jib Clooney... optimism is good.

As Always
Le Pew who went to bed with her laptop.
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 346
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Posted: 3/25/2015 9:19:43 PM

I've always rooted for the underdog :)


I would root for this underdog, but its too old school, and stands in the way of certain equality... for the religious association. Which isn't abiding by separation of church and state.... you know, for those who still appreciate the constitution.

I root for civil union in the federal division.

If there were a fighter that had the benefit of non-religious marriage, and came equipped with a prenuptial agreement... So that you won't look like an ***hole by having a choice - It would dominate the sport.
 Eternityboreme
Joined: 3/18/2015
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:53:13 AM
jkdp65:


The title of this thread should really be, "women in this age group and money". Many women past 40 will say that after either being married to a jerk or dating so many jerks, " I really just want a nice guy that cares for me and shows me respect". Unfortunately, that is mostly B.S. Given the choice between a guy that is genuine, caring and respectful that earns the median income vs. a guy that is so-so but earns double that most women in this age group are going to choose the guy with the higher salary.


You assume the so-so earner isn't a middle-aged couch surfer who's using another middle-aged person for occupancy in their home until they become solvent and find somebody considerable younger? Maybe the so-so earner is looked for an investment for a small business, failed at it without returning the principal investment and subsequent bills, and attributed the reason for abandoning the partner and bills to alleged bad behavior of their partner's adult child? Yes, it happens.

Demidar


This thread sure brought the gold diggers out in force . Nice to know many women view men as walking ATM's


If you don't have any money and somebody didn't want to date you because of it, how does their gold-digging affect you, directly?
 Eternityboreme
Joined: 3/18/2015
Msg: 348
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:56:33 AM
Demidar:

Somebody will accept and love you for whom you are and not what they can extract from you, so long as you reciprocate in kind.
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:32:43 AM
Same as men want the hotter woman, women want the richer guy. So be it. Some guys with not so much to offer, will act like doormats to gain favour with a woman. SHe mostly does not get turned on by that sort of "nice guy" in many cases. I would not limit it to the past 40 age group though.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:56:21 AM

The title of this thread should really be, "women in this age group and money". Many women past 40 will say that after either being married to a jerk or dating so many jerks, " I really just want a nice guy that cares for me and shows me respect". Unfortunately, that is mostly B.S. Given the choice between a guy that is genuine, caring and respectful that earns the median income vs. a guy that is so-so but earns double that most women in this age group are going to choose the guy with the higher salary.


Aaaaannnnnddd...because I just can't seem to RESIST chiming in.....
Am I going to say that there AREN'T women like this? No.

Are there men like this, too, you betchya!!!

I don't go out for dinner as a first meet, never have and never will.

Simple reason for that, this, exact attitude....Don't need to be 'owing' someone for a meal, thanks, and if they're a tool, who wants to be stuck having dinner with them any way??? A coffee is MUCH quicker! lol

Are there 'gold diggers' out there, yes. Both male and female.

Yup...this is NOT what I spent my time working so hard for when fighting for equal rights...

On a side note, saw a story this week about a woman in Toronto who lost custody of her kids for alienating them from their father.
I can honestly say that I was HAPPY to see that, as I have NO love for anyone who abuses the system and their own children to exact some fvcked up kind of 'revenge' from an ex....Be they man or woman.

As I've mentioned many times before, the tables are turning and many men and women are waking up to the fact that being an ass hole is REALLY not a good idea, as it tends to revisit you somewhere down the road...whether that means attempting to get the proverbial 'free ride' or using your children as bargaining chips, etc.
Courts and judges are losing patience with this type of nonsense, as well they should....

Too bad there is SO little personal accountability and responsibility these days in general that our courts are having to actually legislate things that should be covered by common decency, but that IS the world that we live in....

As for the gold-digger syndrome,...well, while I understand it and am even sympathetic to a certain extent towards men who have been 'had' before, I'm also completely uninterested in being with someone like that....

For myself, that would be tantamount to me being out there dating and saying that ALL men are like my cheating ex, or whatever the emotional hangover comes from....
I'm not interested in 'proving' myself to anybody and don't expect them to do so with me, either....

If I'm feeling THAT negative about men, then I know that it's time for me to take a break from dating, rather than visiting that kind of crap on some poor unsuspecting guy's head....
Wish more men felt the same way....
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