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 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Sedentary and fat used together means that one thinks people are fat because they don't exercise, usually like themselves. So yes, it's fat shaming, like any other type of passive/aggressive shaming when a person thinks they have the answers and others are just too lazy or dumb to think like them. Lots of people are sedentary and not overweight at all. Lots of people are active and overweight. It doesn't take much to figure that out, just look around.
 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 102
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:23:39 PM
[ I believe gossip is endemic of small towns because people don't have enough to do. Small towns lack the extensive cultural activities and events of large cities. These people grew up together. Familiarity breeds contempt.]


Oh gee, I wonder why shows like Sex in the City (note? city as in a large metropolitan city which is particular show is based in?) that is rife with gossip fairs so well. Perhaps art imitates life?
It has been in my experience that the Big City woman are WAY more catty and gossipy than the suburbs and the rural areas are less so.
You must realize, I lip read. I can see conversations across the room. I've picked up on alot in my years.
And yes, downtown women... *whistles. BAD! ALL the time. There's always at least one group of women in a room shredding a person or persons.
I will say though... the downtown girls would be more on the catty side to fill their time and have something entertaining to say. It stays in the group. Meanwhile the suburbs do it to be part of a group, their gossip destroys reputations in the neighborhood. I've seen women take their family and move over this.
Rural women will just verbally cut a biotch down then let it be done and over with and can be best friends the next day.

Still though, all these women gossip.
It's not the size of the town but the size of the mind.
 bluemoon24_7
Joined: 4/18/2014
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:44:15 PM
I agree with you Charmin, I grew up in a very small place. Bonds were tight and we did everything and nothing together. Your neighbours were basically your extended family. If we wanted cultural events, we went to the city, we lacked for nothing and actually gained more from the smallness of it all. I have friends still from grade 1 and beyond. The " city slickers" that visited our cottage area during the summer were snooty. It appears some have stayed snooty and elitist in adulthood. I'll take country grown over city grown any day. Country or small town born does not mean you are less educated or cultured and in my opinion, you have a better base or grounding.

"...the size of the mind." I like that.
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:54:08 PM
Nobody is normal, the ones that claim to be are surely flawed for the concept of normal isn't defined by anything other than their own standards or more probably - their delusions. Quite the paradox, yes a needle in a haystack for sure, only the needle doesn't exist, and they will be perpetually vexed by their own misplaced contempt.
 petula1908
Joined: 8/9/2014
Msg: 105
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:42:44 PM
I have been fortunate enough to meet good women friends through an organisation I recently joined when I moved to a different area and looking for likeminded people. They in turn introduced me to their friends etc and as far as I am concerned, there is no real ****iness, meanness or backstabbing. We are of a mature age, not vying or competing for mens' attentions, all financially comfortable, and have interests and hobbies in common.

I don't join large groups of women such as the Red Hatters, who just socialise and drink, as they can be a vipers nest for sure.

Anyone who displays cattiness to me, I am gone. If they talk about others in that way, they will do it about me.
 purplerider1200
Joined: 9/10/2011
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:49:32 PM
I grew in a small area also. Yes, small town bonds are tight. Actually, too tight, and they aren't quick to allow new people in.
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 107
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:59:30 PM
Normal is always moving on you. After a career of dealing with almost every type of person, I've come to the conclusion that if a person can maintain the boundries we as as society have (moral and social) they are all some variant of normal.
 InnerGorilla
Joined: 4/1/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:26:54 AM

will say though... the downtown girls would be more on the catty side to fill their time and have something entertaining to say. It stays in the group. Meanwhile the suburbs do it to be part of a group, their gossip destroys reputations in the neighborhood. I've seen women take their family and move over this.


I love gossip. Gossip is a Quentin Tarentino movie without the violence and blood. Even though sometimes it draws blood. I can say that I hate gossip, but face it, why in the fvck do I keep coming to this despicable place with catty women, fvcked up guys, and people of every walk of life. Why do I bother to listen to how ridiculous dating can be, or the stories where the person telling it is fvcked up and they screwed up the other person, yet want validation here. And the forumnites tear another a ss ho le to that person. Why? Because I love it. And I admit to loving it.

Also, a while back when I was in the Iowa Writers workshop a speaker said to us, the most powerful tool a writer has is not his ability to write, but his ability to listen. If you want to write, first you have to learn to listen. Then commit to paper.

So ladies, gentlemen gossip away. And shoot as low as you can possibly can. The human experience is in your hands.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
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Posted: 1/30/2015 8:39:16 AM

I love gossip. Gossip is a Quentin Tarentino movie without the violence and blood. Even though sometimes it draws blood. I can say that I hate gossip, but face it, why in the fvck do I keep coming to this despicable place with catty women, fvcked up guys, and people of every walk of life.


what an insult to Tarantino, one of the brightest


So ladies, gentlemen gossip away. And shoot as low as you can possibly can.


the bar is on the ground, in fact I think some have been hit in the head by ricochet
 InnerGorilla
Joined: 4/1/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:21:54 AM

what an insult to Tarantino, one of the brightest


We could start a whole new thread on this subject. Hehehe. But the beauty of Quentin is not so much the action of his movies, but how intricate his dialogue gets with the mundane, it's just fvcking brilliant.
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
Msg: 111
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:39:22 AM
Nurture then gives us our mores, - society does, and because (at least in the US) we have certain liberties. Certain political beliefs and we have preference. It obscures the idea of normal. There is always a rise of power - and Hitler is a good example, he was a disgruntled soldier who believed that he deserved more. And he decided that bloodshed was the answer, well the country followed, maybe a few defected - the bleeding hearts who didn't want to be a part of it.

But that country - most of those people, the soldiers even - they believed in that mad man. And that's why I don't like to look toward societal norms to distinguish anything. Because the truth is, if the trucks stop moving, and the shelves aren't stocked at the grocery - nurture surely goes out the window, and nature kicks into high gear.

I suppose the idea of normal is even keeled - it would be something of a mild mannered, white collar, middle of the road politically, type man/women who started a retirement/savings plan by the age of 20-25, Only has a few parking tickets, and has little to no debt.

But that isn't the normal, especially my demographic. Because that isn't the mean/median/mode statistically of the average American. Most Americans are in debt, most of them are worried about job security, and a lot have disabilities, mental or physical. Everybody makes mistakes - a friend of mine peters knocked up a girl in high school. Now he’s paying child support - great guy, going to be a computer programmer - but he's not normal.

Because the average scumbag kid who does that will do everything in his power to duck the responsibility of raising the kid. Mainly because he was also too stupid to buy a condom or a morning after pill. Peters on the other hand took a huge pay cut out of his basic pay - I think he made something like 370 dollars every 2 weeks, the rest went to child support. And we would like to consider him normal, but he is actually exceptional.

Normally it works out that the child is raised by the other child's ( meaning the 17-18-19 year old kid's) mom. I mean hell, it’s apparently a big thing that I live in my own apartment in a nice city at my age. I don't have kids, no debt, and I am sort of fiscally responsible - but I am hardly normal I am actually a hybrid of shitbag and exceptional. I am an exceptional shit-bag lol. Because I see a lot of homeless people my age downtown, my demographic looks bad.

So what is normal? Normal is a perception based on a subjective idea. If it were a societal thing, you would have to take a paper made system, and apply it to reality as though it would work - but a lot of what we think makes people normal or seem like their life may be attractive - is simply the surface, the dynamic is too complicated. If the factors were strictly mores - then it would be a person who slaved away to make the world a better place. But sacrificing yourself to that degree doesn't make you a better person, it can cripple your momentum to greatness - to earn more to give more back. It’s simply impossible to objectively identify "normal" it is an invalid question. (Refer to my previous post as to why)

But if you look at the statistics, normal (in context to the way the OP thinks) is exceptional, and true normal is abnormal. Basically I mean that most people are not normal, and the concept of whatever is normal - maybe based on society, is an illusion. There are too many variables, people are too dynamic to be normal. I usually just separate people into three different piles - The exceptional, the uninspired mass, and the shitbags. (of which I have been all three)

Where normal would be the uninspired mass, those who do to get through the day, and those who count the clock. Those who have insecurities and problems that they are too afraid to admit. Those who gave up on their calling, but still had the courage to settle down and accept less of themselves while (still) towing the line. Those who do poorly under stress, basically everyone stuck in traffic with the sun blaring in their eyes who are constantly reminded that nothing changes. But this mass doesn't always vote, can be sociopathic, can be any number of things.

They can be anything from PhD to high school dropout, there is no normal by my estimate. We are far too dynamic, I've known exceptional people on the surface who turned into shitbags. I used to be a shitbag, I’d like to think I am going in the right direction now. But I am far from normal, I met a Vietnam Veteran who was a cobra gunner, he told me it took 5 years for him to feel right after his chopper got shot in the hydraulics and they crash landed in a kill zone.

And that guy was about as exceptional as I have ever met, he did a lot of drugs over-seas while in combat. But he quit when he got stateside. Got a job as a lineman after he got out = retired through PGE = his wife left him recently and she took everything but alimony. The cars, the house, everything and the kitchen sink. He walked with nothing but his bank account. And the women he married hadn't worked a day in her life.

But he ended up with the girl he refused to see after he got back from Vietnam. And I think that's a great story, I am really glad I got to meet him. Because for all his trouble, and the hell he went through. He's happy with his life, he ended up with the girl he was afraid to scare off after combat, and even though he had an addiction problem after being prescribed pain meds for on the job injury - he had the courage to leave the state he was in and seek out that girl - and he did it and I commend him for that. A true badass, and certainly exceptional of character.

“In general, 'normal' refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The word normal is used in a more narrow sense in mathematics, where a normal distribution describes a population whose characteristics centers around the average or the norm.”
 ClooneysTutor
Joined: 3/30/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:53:00 AM
Dusk til Dawn?

Let's get an RV and head to the border!

IG can translate, I'll drive and Vector and unleash some fury on them time vampires...
 TALL_IQ2
Joined: 12/22/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:56:43 AM
I didn't watch that whole movie, missed the last half hour or so. IF it ended up they all survived,

I may come along if we can get the right four Forumite ladies to join us down there...

S
 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
Msg: 114
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:59:58 AM
[Dusk til Dawn?
Let's get an RV and head to the border!
IG can translate, I'll drive and Vector and unleash some fury on them time vampires...]


I know who I want to be!!!!
I just need to over fear of snakes :(



[he ended up with the girl he was afraid to scare off after combat, and even though he had an addiction problem after being prescribed pain meds for on the job injury - he had the courage to leave the state he was in and seek out that girl ]

Vector, do you mean to say he was scared that if he was with her, he would scare her off so he wouldn't be with her until one day he finally summoned courage to do so?

 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 115
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:01:31 AM
Wait, what?
Where is this Quentin Tarantino movie being screened exclusively for POF Forum members?
 kj521
Joined: 8/8/2012
Msg: 116
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:05:41 AM
"I may come along if we can get the right four Forumite ladies to join us down there..."



Who are these "right four" and most important.....are they normal? ;)
 CTRLvector
Joined: 9/21/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:26:27 AM
I think he got sidetracked, and they went their separate ways - chance, and probably the addiction to opiate pain killers brought him out of state. He got sick of the monkey, and painkillers are nice when you have chronic pain. Too nice, if you also choose to medicate emotional problems, but they never prescribe opiates for emotional issues.

He had to leave the state, because he couldn't quit with the people he knew there. He made the right decision, and not for nothing - it all worked out for him despite basically losing everything except is pension and disability checks. I think he came out to CA to be with the girl specifically as they live together, he had mentioned talking to her online prior to moving to CA.

But anyway excuse the long winded posts, I'm trying to get myself in the writing mode - college starts on the 2nd. Just shaking the rust off my fingers haha.

And vampires... We're going to need UV lights and maybe garlic laced rock salt shells. I saw that movie so long ago, I can't remember how they killed em... Vampires are tough, I prefer zombie hoards - stakes are raised when one bite turns you into a walking corpse. Still though, it'd be fun either way im in.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:28:51 AM
No, Kill Bill was his best work. Vampires and zombies.. meh. Scarier to take on the hordes at a blue light sale

"Earl McGraw: Well, this is definitely the work of professionals. I'd guess-timate Mexican Mafia hit squad. Four, maybe five strong.

Edgar McGraw: How can you tell?

Earl McGraw: Well, a sure and steady hand did this. This ain't no squirrelly amateur. This is the work of a salty dog. You can tell by the cleanliness of the carnage. Now a kill-crazy rampage though it may be, all the colors are kept within the lines. If you was a moron, you could almost admire it."
 InnerGorilla
Joined: 4/1/2014
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:52:48 AM

I may come along if we can get the right four Forumite ladies to join us down there...


Ymmmmm.
 basilisk123
Joined: 12/17/2011
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:10:35 AM
"No, Kill Bill was his best work"-Ouija2025

Kill Bill 1 was his best work. Kill Bill 2 was just stupid.

I realize 1 and 2 were filmed as one movie, just split between 2 films, but why did they put all the stupidity into one film. Damn Tarantino is so hit or miss. At least you can say he isn't afraid to take risk, unlike the hack Michael Bay.
 MeMeMeatlast
Joined: 1/26/2015
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:16:30 AM
Go ahead and yawn but I still regard Pulp Fiction as his best.

The only thing good about Dusk is Salma's dance ....... LORDY !
 theforumfiend
Joined: 10/21/2007
Msg: 122
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:23:16 AM
Mr White, my son is a big fan of Reservoir Dogs.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:32:02 AM
Plup Fiction is my favorite, but Dusk til Dawn is awesome the first time you see it, if no one has ruined it for you, after the big twist I don't even remember the rest. I also loved Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill 1 & 2 were good, but I'm really not into the karate chop kind of movies. I'm a big Steve Buscemi fan. Buscemi is great with dialog and facial expressions, I like Travolta too. Neither of them are normal...needed to stay on topic.
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:35:26 AM
^^^

Steve Buscemi will be making an appearance in the Snickers candy commercial during the Super Bowl.
 BLonde^j^AngeL
Joined: 1/2/2015
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:38:04 AM

The only thing good about Dusk is Salma's dance ....... LORDY !

Quentin has a foot fetish, hence during The Dance at The T1tty Twister, she quenches his thirst via her foot...
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