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 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 76
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It's better than gonorrhea. Much, much harder to lie about having kids.

I don't know if you can hide that, once you are near it can't you see cheesey like stuff coming out?

BlondeJAngel- That was a nice post. You are nice. Thanks.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 77
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 4:26:26 PM
Sunshinewoman,

You call that research. You get your info from an online blog


Yes, it was posted on a Blog and that's where the link was. But it's from legitimate source. The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHD) which is a branch of the U.S Department of Health and Human Services. Here the direct link to the chart: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db18.pdf I can assure you the divorce rate was way less too because back then people took marriage seriously and did not take that commitment lightly like today.


Why are you so bent about single mothers who reject you when all you have to do is snap your fingers to get a hottie “latched onto you”? (and spare us the “I want something real” crap no one buys.)


Why do you think I am hell bent on that? I can't get rejected by them because I will not email them in the first place. I had one bad dating experience with a woman who had a young child and it was the first and last time. I find it frustrating the shear numbers of single mothers on POF that's all. There are more here than IRL.

I do want something real, I have always had serious long term monogamous relationships for the most part. I like the whole connection/love/snuggle thing. Any guy with money can have sex with a hottie. It's called an escort. You have heard of them, haven't you?
 BLonde^j^AngeL
Joined: 1/2/2015
Msg: 78
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 4:33:26 PM

I do want something real, I have always had serious long term monogamous relationships for the most part. I like the whole connection/love/snuggle thing.

Start the visualization

any coffee shops w/ poetry readings?

I see u w/ a woman w/ long straight dark hair, 5ft2 ish & petite build + Audrey Hepburn eyes

a Natalie Portman type...
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 79
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 4:35:35 PM

The whole point of the post was that I am shocked and annoyed why so many women get married, have kids and then end up on a cheesey dating site like POF. 50% have kids. It's sick. I am sure in the 1930's and 40s the number of women alone with kids was a fraction of what it is today. The lack of family values today is horrible.



Is it really????

Cause initially, YOU were whining about not able to find women to date on POF without children? Now, you are whining about women getting married, having children, and for whatever reason (there are more than one) are here looking to date again??? And then a soft whimper of whine about "family values" and how horrible they are????

Why don't you done the superman outfit and go out and save the world while spreading the "word"?????

Or do you consider this post "spreading"?????

Still sounds like a whine to me though.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 80
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 4:39:05 PM
Course if the real Nat and her husband split, she'll be a single parent :p
A beautiful, rich talented single parent.
 Demidar
Joined: 10/22/2014
Msg: 81
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 6:26:34 PM
To Opp: It is a free site , do not need to say any more .
 PenelopeLeChat
Joined: 7/29/2014
Msg: 82
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/3/2015 8:29:08 PM
mrgorton
Stupid comparison. Marrying a woman with a child is BY CHOICE, having to care for a sick parent IS NOT.

Geesh.


Not stupid at all. My point is... and I understand that you are fairly young and do not see the correlation, but when you marry someone or come into a ltr there is extended family, whether it is a child or a parent. How are you going to deal with a partner who's parent becomes ill and needs attention 24/7 and there is no provisions made for medical care so it is left up to you or your partner to care for the parent? You were not able to deal with the demands of a child in one relationship. Have you considered what parental care would do to you relationship? What will you do when you finally get your children raised to adulthood and the month after the baby graduates H.S. a parent needs to come stay with you because of a hardship? I am curious how you will cope with this situation?

LePew
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 83
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/4/2015 8:50:48 AM

Still sounds like a whine to me though.


Hey walts, it's not whining it's a discussion. Of course you have your opinion or lack of it being a single father of 53 on a dating site. You post just to complain about what I have to say contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion not even an opinion.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 84
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/4/2015 8:56:15 AM

To Opp: It is a free site , do not need to say any more .


Best comment yet. And I agree. But it's relative, Datehookup makes POF seem excellent.
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 85
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/4/2015 12:47:15 PM
“I find it frustrating the shear numbers of single mothers on POF that's all. There are more here than IRL.”
I’m pretty sure this is a statistical impossibility but it’s almost as good as your sociology/history about the decay of social mores.
… women had to wed out of economic dependence
… husbands had the final say about domestic decisions and controlled all family income
... mothers could not be the natural guardian of her children unless they were illegitimate (i.e. no man ‘claimed’ them)
... about 10 percent of families were single-parent households in early 1900’s; death (widowed wasn’t counted as single), high rate of abandonment (although that was still technically ‘married’)

Ah, yes – the decay of modern family values. At least now in the 21st century, I can work, earn money that I do not turn over to any man, initiate divorce proceedings, and have custody of my child. I don’t find that any sort of regression from essentially being owned.

However, that doesn’t answer your whine about going on a date (only one?) with a single mom and the child (how old?) kept getting in the way (in what way?).

Ok, so one date wasn’t perfect. And you’re quitting? Try dating a woman with older children as suggested earlier.

Can you more precisely determine what bothered you so much? Perhaps her attention was too divided between you and her child? Was the child was too loud and active? If you can determine why this particular instance was so irritating, you may realize that you can go on dates with a single mother provided…

Perhaps the child was protective or possessive of his/her mother.
Perhaps the child was scared of you (as a stranger).
Perhaps the child had been put on hold for a long time while mom prepared for the date and really needed reassurance that mom wasn’t leaving forever…

You need to accept either (1) remaining single or (2) changing your criteria. I’d suggest the later for a start. You can always go to the more drastic ‘remain single’ if that doesn’t work.

(56 single mom)
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 86
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/4/2015 1:13:52 PM

You need to accept either (1) remaining single or (2) changing your criteria. I’d suggest the later for a start.


So the latter is to settle for what he doesn't want. Gee, that sounds like a great option. I think the OP can find childfree women if he looks hard enough. but I don't know if he put any effort into it or just bringing up a topic for debate.
 BlackLady1953
Joined: 5/27/2011
Msg: 87
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Posted: 3/4/2015 3:46:03 PM
So....he had a bad experience dating a single mother with a young child????? So that makes ALL single mothers "bad?"

I guess I will never date again....

I had a bad experience with a black man = all black men bad.

I had a bad experience with a white man = all white men bad.

I had a bad experience with a short man = all short men bad.

I had a bad experience with a tall man = all tall men bad.

And on and on and on and on........
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 88
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/4/2015 5:39:32 PM

Hey walts, it's not whining it's a discussion. Of course you have your opinion or lack of it being a single father of 53 on a dating site. You post just to complain about what I have to say contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion not even an opinion.



Do you need for me to quote your initial post to remind you what you typed????? Go back to the start, and begin rereading. You started out not too bad, and now it's generated into a whine. You are complaining about how women act, pointing fingers at the "loss" of family values, questioning why couples don't stay together, etc, etc.

Initially, you asked how other guys handled dating women with children? Some of us can handle "other" people's "children", and you obviously can't, so you started to whine. Is it because you can't find that mate without children, or is it because you just having a hard time once you figured out the world kept moving, while you didn't find that "other" when you were younger??? And now, your "chances" are slowly being eliminated to nil, nothing, zilch, because all those women had children when they were younger?

Easy enough "discussion" for you to comprehend?
 BlackLady1953
Joined: 5/27/2011
Msg: 89
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:26:01 AM
I like your style, Walts!
 Strawberry_Jello
Joined: 5/13/2014
Msg: 90
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Posted: 3/5/2015 7:44:34 AM
I dated when I had a kid. No problem. Hire a babysitter, put the kid to bed, go out. Once I put my kid to bed, had an overnight babysitter, left the house, slept over at BF's house, arrived home to wake kid up. Kid never knew I was gone. I don't see what the problem is, well, unless the kid is a male teenager.
As for morals and divorce, I had good reason to divorce, won't bother to go into it here. I will say I was not happy about it at all.
Seems to me you are creating a problem out of thin air. But whatever works for you. Oh, right, it isn't working.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 91
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:10:16 AM

or is it because you just having a hard time once you figured out the world kept moving, while you didn't find that "other" when you were younger???


Well I had women in my life that wanted marriage and kids. I said no to them because I was worried that I will end up being a 53 year old man on a dating site looking for younger women (which I obviously can't get) after I divorce my wife because she was not the right one in the first place. Or more likely she would kick out my old crusty ass. Either way, it's not good.

Waltsy, you have a fan, how cute. :-P
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 92
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:26:30 AM
I haven't read your profile but you should put i your profile that you are interested in meeting childless women only. Simple. No problem.
Also, POF is not good for much but amusement, I have discovered. I should have read the dating site reviews before I signed up, They are pretty brutal and pretty honest about what you find on POF.
Try meetup.

Also, I don't know one woman with kids who was married and now is not who wanted her life to turn out this way. I have heard about women who divorce their husbands because they love him but "fell out of in=love" or some such nonsense but I haven't met any.

 TrustInKarma
Joined: 12/26/2014
Msg: 93
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:31:10 AM
The only way my kids interfere in my dating life is that I can't be super spontaneous, like get ready for a date on a moment's notice. I doubt that I'd like that even if I didn't have kids though, so it's no problem. The other way my kids "get in the way" is if I were to go out of town with a date - again, I would have to know ahead of time so I can arrange for someone to look after them. And mostly, my kids really mess it up for guys who want to "come over and cuddle" at my house. Again, no problem for me, I don't need "cuddle dates" with people I'm not in a relationship with. If things develop and a relationship happens, then the guy will meet my kids and he can stay and watch Netflix on my couch with me when the kids are in bed.
 ClooneysTutor
Joined: 3/30/2014
Msg: 94
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:33:53 AM
Maybe you'll have better luck finding women without kids on Tinder?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 95
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:35:59 AM
quote]Is it really????

Cause initially, YOU were whining about not able to find women to date on POF without children? Now, you are whining about women getting married, having children, and for whatever reason (there are more than one) are here looking to date again??? And then a soft whimper of whine about "family values" and how horrible they are????

Why don't you done the superman outfit and go out and save the world while spreading the "word"?????

Or do you consider this post "spreading"?????

Still sounds like a whine to me though.

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Is it really????

Cause initially, YOU were saying that you were not able to find women to date on POF without children? Now, you seem surpised or agitated because women getting married, having children, and for whatever reason (there are more than one) are here looking to date again??? And then mention "family values" and how horrible they are????

DELETE ENTIRELY THIS SENTENCE >>>>>>>Why don't you done the superman outfit and go out and save the world while spreading the "word"?????
SUBSTITUTE=

What are you looking for? What is your true concern?
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See? Easy.
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 96
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 8:51:47 AM
^^
I can't follow this post at all...I see it's a post quoted from Waltsy. That's about it.

I need more coffee.
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 97
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 10:14:43 AM


You need to accept either (1) remaining single or (2) changing your criteria. I’d suggest the later for a start.

So the latter is to settle for what he doesn't want. Gee, that sounds like a great option. I think the OP can find childfree women if he looks hard enough. but I don't know if he put any effort into it or just bringing up a topic for debate.


(Hope I did those quotes correctly)

Mea culpa, Maleman999 - you are correct. He has three choices: (1) remain single, (2) change criteria or (3) keep banging his head against the wall... er, I mean keep on whinging... no, wait - keep on searching for his perfect match. I agree with you in that I suspect he can find a child-free woman (who meets all his other criteria - whatever those may be) if he keeps trying hard enough and widely enough. However, from what I read, it seemed to me that he had one date with a single mom. To me, that is not a great deal of effort.

I also believe that sometimes we can find our criteria changing through time and experience.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 98
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 2:04:11 PM
mrgorton -

My version says the same thing but without venom. I think that mnay people have forgotten that is possible.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 99
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 5:21:32 PM

younger women


I call them little girls, not women, silly.




My version says the same thing but without venom. I think that mnay people have forgotten that is possible.


Reread message 9 and find the venom there for me please? Once this thread got sidetracked BY the OP, himself, he should take some credit for what he gets. Why not an initial question about family values, reasons for sooooooooo many breakups and single moms with children?

Is that asking too much out of the OP????

This has nothing to do with his dating opportunities but, more of a whine about how other people's lives turned out. From people that have actually lived. All from a guy that has never been married, and/or has children. Or, as I am thinking, someone that didn't grasp it when it was available. And with that, now, bitter, and trying to finger point, to make himself for better?
 mrgorton
Joined: 3/20/2014
Msg: 100
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/5/2015 6:13:34 PM
Waltsy, you are so wrong about me. My goal was not to get married. I could have several times. It was also not to have kids, because if that's what I wanted I would have dated women that wanted that and I didn't. That may have been your goals and you achieved them..well at least for a while. So, your thinking is wrong.

And yes, it's a good question and probably how I should have started the thread: Why are there soooooooo many divorces/breakups and single moms with children? POF loaded with them is after the fact anyway.
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