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 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 549
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used toPage 21 of 26    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26)
Funny, how it's not going in the other direction of anorexia - just fat, fatter, fattest, dead.

However, MaleFeasance has not enlightened me as to the cutoff size for the dividing line between 'not overweight' and 'overweight'. Originally, I meant the perception of overweight was a personal one for each man but now I'm intrigued as to what the cut-off is. Or, at least, what MaleFeasance (or any other man) considers the cut-off between 'fat' and 'acceptable'.

Overweight is such a subjective measurement.
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No, it isn't. If your body fat percentage is over 30 (for women), and I'm being generous, you are overweight.

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I heard a size 10 woman refered to as 'a porker'. Size 10 is smaller than the average American size 12-14 (depending upon the source).
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That just means the average american woman is way overweight. A woman who wears a size 10 is overweight, even if she is less overweight than average.


And, isn't it 'dun seen' and 'dun saw'? I dun scene a seen in saw...
 Eternitygracesme
Joined: 5/18/2015
Msg: 550
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used to
Posted: 6/13/2015 3:31:40 AM

Funny, how it's not going in the other direction of anorexia - just fat, fatter, fattest, dead.


We exist in a culture of starvation (deprivation).

We shouldn;t nourish ourselves; we should always suffer, starve, fit in impossible standards of existence -- for somebody else.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 551
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used to
Posted: 6/13/2015 5:41:07 AM
At least some countries are banning super thin models. I just saw terrifying pictures of an photo shot featuring anorexic women ( looking near death)
I'm old enough to remember when Isabelle Caro did the ad campaign.. she was down to 68 pounds.
Some Doctors blame porn ( which is retouched) for the lastest "fad" of vaginal beautification... including vagina facials.
No man best be telling me I need to pretty up my lady bits
 CrookCatcher
Joined: 7/14/2014
Msg: 552
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used to
Posted: 6/13/2015 5:57:20 AM

No man best be telling me I need to pretty up my lady bits


Lol. Can't quite imagine how that conversation would start......" ya know ouij I've been thinking"...lol....but I can picture that over morning coffee. The ensuing crime scene would be horrific I'm sure. ;)
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 553
honey, could you pass the sugar? and uh, let's discuss....
Posted: 6/13/2015 6:06:26 AM
the fellow who can get a lady to "clean up/pretty up her lady bits" would be, I suppose, a clithero.

If a human wants to undergo the knife in order to make more money in the celebrity field, well, its their money. There may be an issue, however, of whether or not they are old enough to make that radical decision. But for others to copy a fad they see, well....there's a reason they label this, "monkey see, monkey do." its a bit mindless. if someone just doesn't like their body, how far does society let them go before intervening? is it society's business?

if a person can't look at someone and think, "wow, that person's weight is going to lead to a hip operation at age 50", then they are happy with that person's weight, and may just love them for who they are, and what's wrong with that? sometimes, we should do what makes us happy, and so long as we don't hurt others, really worry less about what others think of us. I don't have a gym body that many women prefer. i'm fine with that. if someone does have a gym body, I don't hate them for that. i'll appreciate the work they did to get there.
 Strings6
Joined: 7/14/2007
Msg: 554
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honey, could you pass the sugar? and uh, let's discuss....
Posted: 6/13/2015 6:36:13 AM
As usual its about responsibility and about doing what you can within your definition of reason to be the best you can be,as far as what others think its also about responsibility,if you want to sit on your ass and do nothing and get fat do it, but don't get your elastic waist band in in a twist when someone tells you that you are fat and unattractive TO THEM.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 555
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used to
Posted: 6/13/2015 6:39:50 AM

We exist in a culture of starvation (deprivation).


Really, you are talking about the USA?

In Japan they passed the Metabo Law .


The New York Times reported in 2008 the Metabo Law affects men with waistlines larger than 35.4 inches and women with waistlines larger than 31.5 inches. People exceeding these governmental limits, which are identical to the measurements established by the International Diabetes Federation in 2006, may be required to go to counseling sessions or converse with a health expert about dietary options. Unlike individuals, however, companies and local governments can be assessed financial penalties if the citizens in their charge do not meet government standards:


Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/metabolaw.asp#hIbXH4oE8MGCAH0e.99

I can't begin to imagine what the reaction in the USA would be to a Metabo Law.
 coffeetogo127
Joined: 5/16/2015
Msg: 556
i think she may be more of a woman than i'm used to
Posted: 6/13/2015 6:45:49 AM
Going In the other direction of anorexia would be dead. Literally.
 Eternitygracesme
Joined: 5/18/2015
Msg: 557
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 6:54:43 AM
Yes, I am talking about the USA...

"Starve" or "binge" to look a certain way.

How about the cutting of food programs for already hungry people? That, too.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 12/25/2014
Msg: 558
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 7:07:39 AM

Yes, I am talking about the USA...

"Starve" or "binge" to look a certain way.



So then why in the USA are most people overweight?

USA ranks #27th as the worlds fattest.

Qatar, Kuwait, Libya, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Mexico, Turkey, Chile and Iceland also rank above the U.S in being overweight.
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 559
honey, could you pass the sugar? and uh, let's discuss....
Posted: 6/13/2015 7:10:54 AM

As usual its about responsibility and about doing what you can within your definition of reason to be the best you can be,as far as what others think its also about responsibility,if you want to sit on your ass and do nothing and get fat do it, but don't get your elastic waist band in in a twist when someone tells you that you are fat and unattractive TO THEM.


I've never gotten my knickers in a twist when someone tells me I'm too unattractive (too old, too fat, too smart, too tall, too loud, not blonde enough, not busty enough...) because there are too many people who have found me attractive enough to date and to propose (as well as proposition!) for me to pay attention to people who's conception of 'beautiful' is based some criteria I don't fit.
 J_BigHorse
Joined: 7/17/2013
Msg: 560
eating disorders R us
Posted: 6/13/2015 7:26:52 AM
What about people (not just women) eating healthy, nourishing, unprocessed foods and trying to stay active, and where ever their body "settles" at, that is what they should be?

Either extreme (overeating or poor eating habits VS anorexia/over restricting/exercising obsessively) is sick.
 Eternitygracesme
Joined: 5/18/2015
Msg: 561
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 7:37:13 AM
You erroneously assume that they are being well-nourished, when they are not -- just because they are overweight. Somebody can be over-nourished on carbs, salts and processed shit and still be malnourished.

Having access to affordable, HEALTHY options, like fruits, vegetables, beans and legumes, and lean meats is difficulty for many peole in the US. As it were, most food pantries/banks don't do this more often and because it;'s so expensive many people who want proper nourishment are finding pantries empty of everything.

Shaming overweight people into not eating and preventing those whom are financially-challenged from affording these and leaving no alternative to resort to cheap, fattening, processed foods just to merely subsist is national health irresponsibility, as rich as we are.

You might live in a fucking fantasy world, if you don't know this.

As it were -- and as a side note -- the unfortunate existence of the anti-GMO sentiment railing against GMO farming that actually stabilizes food security for the world, will ensure more people will starve. This is another argument, for another time.



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 clooneystutor
Joined: 3/8/2015
Msg: 562
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 7:46:20 AM
Bonding over sod burgers and gluten free soy mini thins, garnished with humus and washed down with weed killer...

Simpatico!!
 tgif333
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 563
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 5:02:23 PM

The New York Times reported in 2008 the Metabo Law affects men with waistlines larger than 35.4 inches and women with waistlines larger than 31.5 inches. People exceeding these governmental limits, which are identical to the measurements established by the International Diabetes Federation in 2006, may be required to go to counseling sessions or converse with a health expert about dietary options. Unlike individuals, however, companies and local governments can be assessed financial penalties if the citizens in their charge do not meet government standards:


Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/metabolaw.asp#hIbXH4oE8MGCAH0e.99

I can't begin to imagine what the reaction in the USA would be to a Metabo Law.


they voted B.O. in twice so there is no limit to American stupidity.
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
Msg: 564
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i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 10:27:38 PM
Oh please, that George W was voted in for a second term even after the dodgy voting system that got him in the first time, just says that people stick with who they know and dont want to risk change. Americans are not compelled to vote and I wonder what the percentage do actually bother to vote?? Obama would automatically get the black vote, correct me if I am wrong..... a lot of black people may have come out to vote for the first time when he got in..... Correct me if I am wrong.. Why are they called African Americans when most have not been to Africa??? We have a large British origin people here but we dont call ourselves Anglo Australians, for instance.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 565
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i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/13/2015 11:13:10 PM
I know several democrats personally who voted Bush for the second term because of the war he hauled us into, they were afraid of what might happen if they didn't let him finish it...yeah that happened. I know people who voted for Obama the second time because they were scared of what would happen if the other duo got in. Lots of time people aren't voting for someone, they are voting against someone. And just as many people are going to say America is stupid to vote that way instead of this way and of course the other way around. It's a meaningless cliche just to be able to bash others. Because we all know their was no reason to brag about the other side either. I have no idea what this has to do with fat dates other than politicians have big, fat wallets.
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
Msg: 566
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i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/14/2015 1:29:40 AM
daynadaze

I hear that Obama's wallet is not so fat....... however be that as it may. I think you are right, better the devil you know......
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 567
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/14/2015 1:59:42 AM
a discussion of American politics should factor in the fact that its the legislature that passes the law. To slim down the American populace would require corn syrup and other additives that increase shelf life to be removed. and the companies who profit, like ADM and Nestle and such, would they sit still for the loss of millions of dollars of profit? please. Campaign donations would increase. How do you think healthcare got thru, by insurance companies sitting on their hands?

so, don't worry. be happy.
 sealady111
Joined: 5/31/2015
Msg: 568
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/17/2015 8:52:39 PM
I see your over weight and raise you..


Just had a conversation with a man from here who is self described as a few pounds over... same as me...
He tells me that he has a medical condition and they will not operate till he looses over 50Kg ...... That is over 110lbs.

How obese do you have to be before the medical profession refuses to operate?
 Whatsamatterbaby
Joined: 5/6/2015
Msg: 569
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/17/2015 8:56:56 PM
^ I gather it has something to do with the risks of general anesthetics on persons who are overweight. I'm guessing if the risk of not having surgery outweighed the other, they'd do it. (I'm only guessing - definitely not my area of expertise.)
 123nightmoves
Joined: 6/2/2015
Msg: 570
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/17/2015 9:46:57 PM
110 pounds is not "a few extra pounds". 110 pounds is a person, he is a "person" overweight. "A few extra pounds" to me is 10 or 20 pounds.
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
Msg: 571
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Posted: 6/17/2015 9:59:12 PM
sealady


If the guy has to lose over 50kg, he is morbidly obese. You may be a few pounds over but he is in the obese range for sure. I guess you wont be bothering with him anyway??? right. Amazing that he is on a dating site looking for a partner in his condition. Hope springs eternal....

I agree that a few pounds over can be anywhere around 10-15 lbs. Some people can carry it off and others cant. Depends on where it is sitting. Anything above 20lbs I would class as overweight and going into obese. Depending on the height of the person.
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 572
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/18/2015 3:05:09 AM
As I said earlier - 'overweight' is subjective.
Though no one has enlightened me as to the cut-off size for 'overweight' and 'not overweight'. I thought a size 10 was 'average' but Malefeasance says that is simply less overweight than the average American.

However, if he has to lose 50kg to be considered for surgery then he is probably morbidly obese unless he's about 9 feet tall.


Amazing that he is on a dating site looking for a partner in his condition.

And, his condition being.... fat?
 MaleFeasance
Joined: 3/13/2015
Msg: 573
i think she may me over weight
Posted: 6/18/2015 3:45:08 AM
Though no one has enlightened me as to the cut-off size for 'overweight' and 'not overweight'.
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Max 30% body fat for women. Max 25% for men. The average woman (meaning not an athlete and not overweight), who is 5'4 should weigh between 108-120 lbs. For a woman who is 5'8, that would be about 130-150 lbs, the upper limit being quite generous.
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