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 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 25
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Not understanding that wind and solar are the future, is just that, not understanding.




Progress will never come from a Marxist-oriented ideology that panders to Negros and sexual deviants.


There you go, let that racist hate flow out and show the world you true colors.
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 26
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 8:02:58 AM

Not understanding that wind and solar are the future, is just that, not understanding


Wind and solar power can't be stored for later use. You only have power when the sun is out. What good is that?

Hydroelectric power can be stored. The water sits in the dam until you open the turbines.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 27
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 8:22:35 AM

Wind and solar power can't be stored for later use. You only have power when the sun is out. What good is that?


Not understanding that you can store energy is just that, not understanding.




Hydroelectric power can be stored. The water sits in the dam until you open the turbines.


Yes and lets not forget that you are talking billions to build a single dam and also not to mention the environmental cost of creating such a project.


Also lets not forget you are a bit of a raving loon who dislikes anyone who is not white or christian.
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 28
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 9:03:40 AM

Not understanding that you can store energy is just that, not understanding.


Do you have any idea how much energy is used in one 24 hour period? You say wind and solar power are the future, but offer no explanation of how this is going to work. This is exactly what the left does. They propose unrealistic solutions that don't go anywhere, keeping people dependent on the status quo. The left is a controlled opposition that works hand in hand with the right.



Yes and lets not forget that you are talking billions to build a single dam and also not to mention the environmental cost of creating such a project.


Seriously? You're worried about a dam costing billions of dollars? There are over 500 billionaires in this country. That's where our priorities have gotten us. A few hundred people getting obscenely rich forcing us to buy their dirty oil and crappy operating systems.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 29
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 9:20:10 AM

Do you have any idea how much energy is used in one 24 hour period?


Do you know what a vague question is?




You say wind and solar power are the future, but offer no explanation of how this is going to work.


That is because it is not my job to explain sh*t to stupid people, so if you can not understand it then own up to it and admit you simply can not understand it.




This is exactly what the left does. They propose unrealistic solutions that don't go anywhere, keeping people dependent on the status quo. The left is a controlled opposition that works hand in hand with the right.


Tell me more about how multi billion dollar hydro dam project will solve all the problems while not affect the environment in the least again?





Seriously? You're worried about a dam costing billions of dollars?


Nope, not worried in the least, as I am educated enough to understand the practical impossibilities that exist in damming all the major rivers.




There are over 500 billionaires in this country. That's where our priorities have gotten us. A few hundred people getting obscenely rich forcing us to buy their dirty oil and crappy operating systems.


It is almost like you did not read that before you posted it.
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 30
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Posted: 6/9/2015 9:41:53 AM
Hmmm. So HFX finds the word negro "raysis" ? Guess we should change the name of that "raysis" college fund. Cold Coffee hits it again ; the "gubmint" panders to them. HFX does as well.
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 31
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Posted: 6/9/2015 11:14:11 AM

I am educated enough to understand the practical impossibilities that exist in damming all the major rivers.


It is not necessary to dam "all the major rivers" to meet our energy requirements. Not even close. So whatever "education" impressed upon you the practical impossibility of such a project was not meant to benefit you in any way. This is what is meant by "controlled opposition". You're only being told what you "need to know".
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 32
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Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 12:15:32 PM
Message 29 ...
Do you have any idea how much energy is used in one 24 hour period? You say wind and solar power are the future, but offer no explanation of how this is going to work.
I think quite a few of us know how that will work ... as do our politicians.

This is exactly what the left does. They propose unrealistic solutions that don't go anywhere ...
Often, they don't go anywhere because right wing teabagger governors (such as the "gangster" governor of Ohio) go out of their way to block production of "renewable energy".

... keeping people dependent on the status quo.
So who is really "keeping people dependent on the status quo"?

In 1980 I designed and helped to build a home that was "solar-ready". That was in Germany. Our government has all kinds of tax breaks and incentives for those of us who want to make our homes more energy efficient. Now if we could only get our "gangster" governors to quit taking pay-offs from the gas and coal industries ... !!!!!!!

Message 32 ...
You're only being told what you "need to know".
Really? And you know so much more because .......... ?
 cold_coffee
Joined: 8/5/2014
Msg: 33
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Posted: 6/9/2015 12:25:00 PM
@ Cotter

Please explain how it will be possible to store solar energy for later use so we can have enough power during winter months when there is less sunlight and people require more energy to stay warm.



Often, they don't go anywhere because right wing teabagger governors (such as the "gangster" governor of Ohio) go out of their way to block production of "renewable energy".


What are you saying exactly? That "tea-baggers" control America?

You seem to be having trouble with the concept of "controlled opposition". When you eliminate liberalism and conservatism what do you have left? A realistic attitude towards Jews and confidence in your own groups ability to overcome problems.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 34
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 2:21:17 PM

Please explain how it will be possible to store solar energy for later use so we can have enough power during winter months when there is less sunlight and people require more energy to stay warm.


Easy, take 50% of the money that the Oil & gas sector gets in rebates and tax breaks and give it to the solar and wind people and let them develop those technologies.

But right off the top of my head there are currently two similar technologies that can offer a longer term solution to energy storage.

They both rely on storing potential energy, one using air and the other using water.

The other side is battery storage, which again is getting better and better every day.

Also thinking that this transition is a one day event where all of sudden you are 100% carbon neutral is a fail to understand that these are long-term plans that both benefits man kind and the economy.

So making claims like you do, shows you have no faith in technology and you seem to have less than a basic understanding of energy.
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 5:00:19 PM
Man-o-man, I swear. Ya know, concerning our energy and environmental concerns, we really could do it all "properly" and have almost no problems. It's not that damned hard...a solution isn't that damned cryptic. I feel like an E.T. would look at us and say "why do you people make it all so damned difficult?!" And after I say this, a dozen reasons or obstacles why it is all the way that it is, or hard to do, would be offered up to me. And then to that I might only feel compelled to say "see, that's what I'm talking about. Stop all that whining and excuse making, and get your sh!t together already", and slap all of us up the sides of our stupid assed heads.

But anyway...(op)...

[no widespread harm to drinking water]...if industry safeguards are in place.

If industry safeguards are in place? That never sounds good. If Scotty's grandmamma had wheels, she'd be a wagon. If. If if if. As long as. Well, what is the "as long as" part? What are these safeguards? How were they derived? What were the criteria, and methodology? And what do we think the track record will turn out to be for everyone doing a decent job of keeping those safeguards in place...of actually employing them?
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/9/2015 7:32:38 PM
*sigh*...but, in the words of Joe Walsh, Aerosmith, and that one kid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7yoZPuy4Pw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcL0mjMjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY7875_rv1s
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 37
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Posted: 6/22/2015 6:41:04 AM
Fracking poses 'significant' risk to humans and should be temporarily banned across EU, says new report
Andy Rowell
Saturday 20 June 2015



A major new scientific study has concluded that the controversial gas extraction technique known as fracking poses a “significant” risk to human health and British wildlife, and that an EU-wide moratorium should be implemented until widespread regulatory reform is undertaken.

The damning report by the CHEM Trust, the British charity that investigates the harm chemicals cause humans and wildlife, highlights serious shortcomings in the UK’s regulatory regime, which the report says will only get worse as the Government makes further budget cuts.

It also warns of severe risks to human health if the new Conservative government tries to fast-track fracking of shale gas across the UK. The “scale of commercial fracking” unleashed by the Government’s eagerness to exploit the technique “should not be underestimated”, it cautions.

Read more at:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/fracking-poses-significant-risk-to-humans-and-should-be-temporarily-banned-across-eu-says-new-report-10334080.html
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 38
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/22/2015 9:00:10 AM
Currently, wind and solar create enough excess energy to support grid-scale energy storage. People are selling excess to energy companies.

As for fracking, ask people who live there how safe it is to their water and crops. Not so much. State and federal agency employees want to keep their jobs. The last true environmental president was Bush 1.
Money politics side-tracked him.
 Peas_
Joined: 5/2/2015
Msg: 39
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 6/22/2015 9:21:43 AM
oh, opie, I thought you may have been speaking of frac sand mining from the title.

https://www.minnpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_detail/FracMineCounties640.png

Get's pretty tiring hearing the trains come through every 20 minutes. Quite a big industry here to supply the "stuff'.
 DessertTray
Joined: 10/24/2015
Msg: 40
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 7/10/2016 6:58:30 PM
"The Obama administration is essentially letting oil companies frack at will in Gulf ecosystems and dump billions of gallons of oil waste into coastal waters," said Kristen Monsell, an attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity, in an online statement. "Every offshore frack increases the risk to wildlife and coastal communities, yet federal officials have been just rubber-stamping this toxic practice in the Gulf of Mexico for years."

The federal government has been permitting offshore fracking in the Gulf with no site-specific analysis of the threats to imperiled species or the environment, and also without public involvement, according to the documents and a news release from the center.

The government has yet to release all the documents, so the full scope of offshore fracking is likely even larger, the center says. For example, at least one of the wells connected to the flow line involved in a nearly 90,000-gallon oil spill last month was fracked, according to federal data.

The federal government approved the frack job in 2015.

Offshore fracking blasts vast volumes of water mixed with toxic chemicals beneath the seafloor at pressures high enough to fracture rocks and release oil and gas. Critics of the practice say it increases environmental damages beyond those of conventional oil drilling by increasing pollution and the risks of oil spills and earthquakes.

Oil and gas companies are allowed to dump fracking chemicals mixed with wastewater into the Gulf of Mexico. An analysis conducted by the Center for Biological Diversity of federal documents revealed oil companies operating in federal waters off the coasts of Texas and Louisiana discharged more than 76 billion gallons of chemical-laced water in 2014 alone.

"Offshore fracking is an inherently dangerous activity that simply doesn't belong in the Gulf of Mexico," Monsell said. "And the federal government certainly has no right to give the oil industry free rein to frack our oceans — or to keep coastal communities in the dark about this toxic industrial activity."

At least 10 fracking chemicals routinely used in offshore fracking could kill or harm a broad variety of marine species, including sea otters and fish, scientists working for the center say. Other scientists have identified some common fracking chemicals to be among the most toxic in the world to marine animals, according to the center's data.
http://lwww.alternet.org/environment/environmentalists-uncover-documents-revealing-feds-quietly-permitted-gulf-fracking
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
Msg: 41
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Posted: 7/14/2016 7:44:51 PM
Brilliant moves on Obama's part.Encourage fracking in the Gulf and block a pipeline from Canada.Let Iran off the hook and kill the economy in North Dakota.Apparently he still has people applauding.
 DessertTray
Joined: 10/24/2015
Msg: 42
Fracking safe Says EPA
Posted: 7/14/2016 8:27:04 PM

Apparently he still has people applauding.

Apparently; none of his POF forums worshippers are willing to even acknowledge the toxic poisoning of the environment by their blinding leader not to mention the hypocrisy.
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